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Journal subjects as "Others on the list"

Do these belong here? There's a pretty good chance that they're not on the list, either because they haven't contributed DNA to the HGP, or because Chandra was just plain wrong about them. (Of course, Chandra has his own DNA samples from several of them.) The algorithm is a pretty new discovery, and most of these subjects predate even Activating evolution. We can't even confirm that they really are evolved humans, let alone that they're on the list or should be on the list.--Hardvice (talk) 15:56, 4 April 2007 (EDT)

  • In addition, there are no names for the subjects. You would think if he has their DNA sample he would have gotten their names.--Bob 16:04, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
    • True, but then again, it sounds like he was fairly sneaky about getting most of the samples. To be clear, I'm not discounting the possibility that one, more, or all of them are on the List under their actual name, but I think that we don't know enough about them to say that they either are or (now that we have some idea how the list works) should be on it. It's possible he was wrong; it's possible he never got around to running their DNA samples against the algorithm; it's possible he intentionally never ran their samples because he didn't have a name or a current location. Who knows?--Hardvice (talk) 16:14, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
  • To be honest, I was skeptical when I put them in. I was just trying to exhaust the list of evolved humans, and wasn't sure if I should put them under the "on the list" section or the "not yet revealed" section. I was using Sanjog and Sylar rationale: Chandra knew about them, so they must be on the list. I wasn't thinking of the chronology, and you're right, these predate even Activating Evolution. I've actually never felt comfortable even calling them evolved humans in the first place, and I think they should be taken off the category and list of EHs. They all have potential powers, nothing more. Heck, so did Shanti, and I could make an argument that Monty & Simon have potential powers. But that's a different discussion... I'll gladly take them off the list, and hope that the list of EHs matches this list after the journal freaks are considered only potentially evolved and not actually evolved. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:37, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
    • I just asked the guys at CBR "Behind the Eclipse" some details about the folks in the journal and whether they correspond with anyone on "The List" or "The Map" and I think consistent questions along those lines will allow us to get closer and closer to making the match. I'd leave them on "Evolved Humans" and wait for them to show up on "The List" for now. Bkdelong 18:03, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
    • I think we should move the journal freaks to a "suspected evolved humans" section of the list of evolved humans, and leave them off The List entirely. That way, we're comprehensive without being speculative.--Hardvice (talk) 18:39, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
      • I agree, Hardvice--I think that's the best way to handle it. The category is ... acceptable ... and I think the move to a separate section on the list is a fine idea. When I took them off the list, I thought about putting them down in the notes or something, and just really didn't feel right about it. I agree, they just shouldn't be there. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:56, 4 April 2007 (EDT)

The French List

...is, I'm guessing, a fansite. At the very least, it has some problems: Eden's on there as "Eden", not as 'Sarah Ellis'. Claire's on there, and shouldn't be, if Eden succeeded in her mission. There's also the matter of Hana's and Meredith's locations, which are up-to-date even though Hiro isn't, and the fact that Sylar's recent victims are marked as deceased already, except for Dale. Also, it's a Christmas Island domain (.cx) and doesn't appear to be in any way affiliated with NBC or Global. Cool, though.--Hardvice (talk) 12:50, 26 April 2007 (EDT)

  • So what do we do with this? It's a cool site, but I seriously doubt that the "official" French version of ae.net uses a Christmas Island top-level domain.--Hardvice (talk) 23:08, 26 April 2007 (EDT)
    • Why don't we move the note to activatingevolution.org? It's not perfect, but it seems a better fit than here. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:31, 26 April 2007 (EDT)
      • It looks like a fan site made by http://4landprod.com. -Lөvөl 02:46, 27 April 2007 (EDT)
        • I think we should either remove it or add a huge disclaimer. They're listing a ton of people not confirmed to be on the list (like Maury Parkman and the Herreras) and have updated for recently-deceased folks (like Candice).--Hardvice (talk) 22:18, 18 December 2007 (EST)

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  • Did Mohinder destroy the computer? I assumed it just got smashed in the fracas.--Hardvice (talk) 05:23, 28 April 2007 (EDT)
    • I assumed he did, but you're right, there's the possibility he didn't. I'll change it now. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:05, 28 April 2007 (EDT)

Others not yet revealed on the list

Do we need this section? I think List of evolved humans is sufficient, and as the show grows, this section will be pretty long, almost to the point that it's more this section than the actual list.--Bob 04:53, 13 August 2007 (EDT)

  • A little history--that list was created when Mohinder said that there were 36 individuals on the list. We were basically trying to find out who was and who wasn't on the list. You're right, though, this list is sure to grow as everybody and their dog is revealed to have a power, and we're only just beginning the second season, not to mention Origins and others who will be revealed in the GNs. I don't really care one way or another (a long list doesn't bother me as much as maintenance does), but you're right that this list has lost some of its original purpose. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 12:56, 13 August 2007 (EDT)

Number of individuals on the list

The article says there is only 36 but a count of names proves 43. --Snow Leapord 22:03, 29 October 2007 (EDT)

  • 36 Mohinder knew about.--Riddler 22:06, 29 October 2007 (EDT)
  • This is addressed under Notes. The writers dodged a question about this in a Behind the Eclipse interview.--Hardvice (talk) 22:19, 18 December 2007 (EST)

Diego Vela...

The list.2 (Fallout).jpg

I just watched Season 1 dvd and in the beginning of Fallout, when yo pause at the right moment, you can read Diego's full name: Velasquez -- Carl Jung

  • Can you get a screenshot? -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:01, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
    • would take some time, but definitely this or next week; and because I'm new, how do you post images? -- Carl Jung
      • When you've got the screencap simply press Upload file on the toolbox which is on the bottom left of every page. When it's uploaded, simply post a link to it here so we can see :) Hope that helps. You might also want to add your signature to your messages so we know we're talking to you - see Help:Signatures for more about that. -- Friskymuffin - (talk) 17:17, 12 August 2008 (EDT)

Sylar

After Sylar awakes from being knocked unconscious by Mohinder (after his fight with Peter at Mohinder's apartment), he is angered that he canmnot access the list. But didn't Mohinder show him the list earlier, right before he used the curare on Sylar (prompting Sylar to call Issac)? Since Sylar had Charlie's power, shouldn't he be able to access the entire list from memory? --Stevehim 21:18, 8 November 2008 (EST)

Sylar's list

Sylar's list in Villains included the names and phone numbers of several people:

Brian Davis
Trevor Zeitlan
James Walker (Molly)
Charlene Andrews
Sparrow Redhouse

Should this be mentioned on the page? Brian, James, Charlie, and Sparrow are seen on Chandra's list. Presumably, Sylar got the other names from Chandra as well. How should they be incorporated on the page for the list? Lindsaynickel 06:22, 15 November 2008 (EST)

  • Sylar's list should definitely be mentioned on this list. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:56, 15 November 2008 (EST)

Candice Willmer?

Shouldn't it be in the trivia section that Candice is mentioned on the list, even though it isn't her original name? If Chandra did map these people by genes, he should have come up with Betty, not Candice. --Billylemmon 14:53, 11 February 2009 (EST)

Peter?

I just watched all of Season 1 over again, and I distinctly remember Mohinder saying "Your brother is probably the most important person on that list." Why isn't Peter on it? o.o LimaBean 11:49, 13 July 2009 (EDT)