Episode talk:Distractions - Revision history

imported>JD101 at 02:49, 17 April 2009

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	--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 17:03, 6 February 2007 (EST)		--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 17:03, 6 February 2007 (EST)
	:Funny, I actually just came to this page to do the same. (Um, Golden Moms' T&A?) We didn't mention every character that was briefly flashbacked (flashforwarded?) at the end of ''[[Six Months Ago]]'', and we didn't put a reference to everybody that appeared in [[Peter's vision]] at the end of ''[[Fallout]]''. Hanks (re)appearance, to me, is along those same lines. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 17:22, 6 February 2007 (EST)		:Funny, I actually just came to this page to do the same. (Um, Golden Moms' T&A?) We didn't mention every character that was briefly flashbacked (flashforwarded?) at the end of ''[[Six Months Ago]]'', and we didn't put a reference to everybody that appeared in [[Peter's vision]] at the end of ''[[Fallout]]''. Hanks (re)appearance, to me, is along those same lines. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 17:22, 6 February 2007 (EST)
			*I reckon then if we don't include [[Hank]] for [[Distractions]], then we shouldn't include [[Elle]] for [[Our Father]] because she is dead, or [[James Martin]] in [[Turn and Face the Strange]] because he is dead. [[Colby French]] was in fact credited for Distractions because it was a continuation of the scene and if you watch when [[Sylar]] locks up [[Noah]], Hank can be seen lying on the table.

	== Quotes ==		== Quotes ==

imported>SpACatta: /* Sylar's Voice */

2007-10-05T17:04:09Z

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	****Agreed. They made a big deal of Eden sacrificing herself to keep Sylar from getting her power. --[[User:Ted C\|Ted C]] 17:13, 6 February 2007 (EST)		****Agreed. They made a big deal of Eden sacrificing herself to keep Sylar from getting her power. --[[User:Ted C\|Ted C]] 17:13, 6 February 2007 (EST)
	***** Or perhaps Eden thought she sacrificed herself, but instead only gave Sylar bite sized nuggets to 'study' before he was apprehended. Shooting herself in the head wouldn't have guaranteed ruining Sylar's fun. Or maybe he TK'd her into shooting herself because he felt too weak to cut her head open himself. -- [[User:ZachsMind\|ZachsMind]] 17:27, 6 February 2007 (EST)		***** Or perhaps Eden thought she sacrificed herself, but instead only gave Sylar bite sized nuggets to 'study' before he was apprehended. Shooting herself in the head wouldn't have guaranteed ruining Sylar's fun. Or maybe he TK'd her into shooting herself because he felt too weak to cut her head open himself. -- [[User:ZachsMind\|ZachsMind]] 17:27, 6 February 2007 (EST)
	****** Err, no. It was just Sylar revealing his true personality because he didn't need the disguise anymore. I hate inane theories. [[User:SpACatta\|SpACatta]] 13:03, 5 October 2007 (EDT)		****** Err, no. It was just Sylar revealing his true personality because he didn't need the disguise anymore, and Eden just plain killed herself so that he couldn't take her power. I hate inane theories. [[User:SpACatta\|SpACatta]] 13:03, 5 October 2007 (EDT)

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imported>SpACatta: /* Sylar's Voice */

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	****Agreed. They made a big deal of Eden sacrificing herself to keep Sylar from getting her power. --[[User:Ted C\|Ted C]] 17:13, 6 February 2007 (EST)		****Agreed. They made a big deal of Eden sacrificing herself to keep Sylar from getting her power. --[[User:Ted C\|Ted C]] 17:13, 6 February 2007 (EST)
	***** Or perhaps Eden thought she sacrificed herself, but instead only gave Sylar bite sized nuggets to 'study' before he was apprehended. Shooting herself in the head wouldn't have guaranteed ruining Sylar's fun. Or maybe he TK'd her into shooting herself because he felt too weak to cut her head open himself. -- [[User:ZachsMind\|ZachsMind]] 17:27, 6 February 2007 (EST)		***** Or perhaps Eden thought she sacrificed herself, but instead only gave Sylar bite sized nuggets to 'study' before he was apprehended. Shooting herself in the head wouldn't have guaranteed ruining Sylar's fun. Or maybe he TK'd her into shooting herself because he felt too weak to cut her head open himself. -- [[User:ZachsMind\|ZachsMind]] 17:27, 6 February 2007 (EST)
			****** Err, no. It was just Sylar revealing his true personality because he didn't need the disguise anymore. I hate inane theories. [[User:SpACatta\|SpACatta]] 13:03, 5 October 2007 (EDT)

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imported>Hardvice: fix link

2007-09-30T20:18:05Z

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	[[:Category: Places\| Places]] <br>		[[:Category: Places\| Places]] <br>
	_X_ [[Sylar's cell]]<br>		_X_ [[Sylar's cell]]<br>
	_X_ [[The Bennets' home]]<br>		_X_ [[The Bennets' home (Odessa)]]<br>
	_X_ [[Meredith Gordon's home]]<br>		_X_ [[Meredith Gordon's home]]<br>
	_X_ [[Women's Correctional Facility]]<br>		_X_ [[Women's Correctional Facility]]<br>

imported>Admin: Talk:Episode:Distractions moved to Episode talk:Distractions: Moving talk pages to dedicated namespace

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imported>Hardvice: fmtg

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	**I believe [[Claude]] said something to [[Peter]] about him having too many distractions to focus on developing control of his power. This would have been shortly after they got back together following the purse-snatching incident, IIRC. --[[User:Ted C\|Ted C]] 14:33, 8 February 2007 (EST)		**I believe [[Claude]] said something to [[Peter]] about him having too many distractions to focus on developing control of his power. This would have been shortly after they got back together following the purse-snatching incident, IIRC. --[[User:Ted C\|Ted C]] 14:33, 8 February 2007 (EST)

		⚫	{{quote \| float=right \| body=I really wish everyone would come to a consensus about quotes \| speaker=User:Hardvice \| listener = User:Ryangibsonstewart \| source = Talk:Episode:Distractions}}
	I think we're all completely failing to utilize quotations the way they should be used. Quotes are like screencaps. They should appear in the nodegel of any page wherever they'd help illustrate a point of reference. When you show the image of Hiro with arms outstretched in Times Square, it'd be completely acceptable to also show the quotation "YATTA!" In fact one could opt to put '''"YATTA!" - Hiro''' as an alternative to posting the image. In some cases when a page is inundated with graphics, a quotation might be more beneficial, breaking up the page with some variety. Instead of separating the quotations from the synopsis, or doing a full transcript, it'd be ideal to summarize the plots, and then use quotations to highlight particularly good moments of dialogue from the episode. Dismissing quotations entirely, or segregating them to a subsection or page where people won't read them, is just as absurd as removing screencaps and images from the wiki, or relegating them to their own separate pages. -- [[User:ZachsMind\|ZachsMind]] 14:21, 12 February 2007 (EST)		I think we're all completely failing to utilize quotations the way they should be used. Quotes are like screencaps. They should appear in the nodegel of any page wherever they'd help illustrate a point of reference. When you show the image of Hiro with arms outstretched in Times Square, it'd be completely acceptable to also show the quotation "YATTA!" In fact one could opt to put '''"YATTA!" - Hiro''' as an alternative to posting the image. In some cases when a page is inundated with graphics, a quotation might be more beneficial, breaking up the page with some variety. Instead of separating the quotations from the synopsis, or doing a full transcript, it'd be ideal to summarize the plots, and then use quotations to highlight particularly good moments of dialogue from the episode. Dismissing quotations entirely, or segregating them to a subsection or page where people won't read them, is just as absurd as removing screencaps and images from the wiki, or relegating them to their own separate pages. -- [[User:ZachsMind\|ZachsMind]] 14:21, 12 February 2007 (EST)
	* I certainly think it's possible to treat quotes similarly to screencaps and have it work out. Sticking them in a bordered div, like a thumbnailed pic, in a larger font, possibly a different color and typeface, and floating them to the sides would I think work quite well in some instances. That said, that doesn't solve the problem of too many quotes (or low quality quotes). These articles are like cookies: the text is the dough, the pictures are like nuts, and the quotes are like chocolate. As it stands, we're using quotes like ganache, and what you're proposing is using them like chocolate chips. That's great, but too many nuts and chips and you don't have a cookie ... you have a big, sticky, crunchy, overly sweet mess. The point is that some restraint, some quality control, and some proportioning is required to make any plan for integrating quotes work. I mean, look at [[Godsend]] [http://heroeswiki.com/index.php?title=Episode:Godsend&oldid=32882 a few revisions back]. It had about 11 images. At a high thumb size and a low screen res, it looked like total crap and was almost completely unreadable. Quotes and images are very much a good thing, but there is definitely such a thing as too much of a good thing.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 14:35, 12 February 2007 (EST)		* I certainly think it's possible to treat quotes similarly to screencaps and have it work out. Sticking them in a bordered div, like a thumbnailed pic, in a larger font, possibly a different color and typeface, and floating them to the sides would I think work quite well in some instances. That said, that doesn't solve the problem of too many quotes (or low quality quotes). These articles are like cookies: the text is the dough, the pictures are like nuts, and the quotes are like chocolate. As it stands, we're using quotes like ganache, and what you're proposing is using them like chocolate chips. That's great, but too many nuts and chips and you don't have a cookie ... you have a big, sticky, crunchy, overly sweet mess. The point is that some restraint, some quality control, and some proportioning is required to make any plan for integrating quotes work. I mean, look at [[Godsend]] [http://heroeswiki.com/index.php?title=Episode:Godsend&oldid=32882 a few revisions back]. It had about 11 images. At a high thumb size and a low screen res, it looked like total crap and was almost completely unreadable. Quotes and images are very much a good thing, but there is definitely such a thing as too much of a good thing.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 14:35, 12 February 2007 (EST)
	**OMG, do we need to start a "Quotes, pt. 4"? ... I really agree that quotes should be used sparingly. I also think that our episode summaries, though fantastically written and full of great information, are sometimes difficult to navigate, simply because they're very long. I played with the idea of breaking them into acts (based on commercial breaks), but that was just not a good solution. Having a few quality, illustrative quotes sprinkled throughout might break up the page nicely. But I'm not sure that's a project I want to take on right away, or even if it has any support from the community. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 14:51, 12 February 2007 (EST)		**OMG, do we need to start a "Quotes, pt. 4"? ... I really agree that quotes should be used sparingly. I also think that our episode summaries, though fantastically written and full of great information, are sometimes difficult to navigate, simply because they're very long. I played with the idea of breaking them into acts (based on commercial breaks), but that was just not a good solution. Having a few quality, illustrative quotes sprinkled throughout might break up the page nicely. But I'm not sure that's a project I want to take on right away, or even if it has any support from the community. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 14:51, 12 February 2007 (EST)
⚫	{{quote \| float=right \| body=I really wish everyone would come to a consensus about quotes \| speaker=User:Hardvice \| listener = User:Ryangibsonstewart \| source = Talk:Episode:Distractions}}
	***I'm willing to entertain any suggestions that will help. I took a stab at creating a template for in-page quotes. Right now, they'll look like this.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 15:21, 12 February 2007 (EST)		***I'm willing to entertain any suggestions that will help. I took a stab at creating a template for in-page quotes. Right now, they'll look like this.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 15:21, 12 February 2007 (EST)

imported>Hardvice at 20:21, 12 February 2007

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	* I certainly think it's possible to treat quotes similarly to screencaps and have it work out. Sticking them in a bordered div, like a thumbnailed pic, in a larger font, possibly a different color and typeface, and floating them to the sides would I think work quite well in some instances. That said, that doesn't solve the problem of too many quotes (or low quality quotes). These articles are like cookies: the text is the dough, the pictures are like nuts, and the quotes are like chocolate. As it stands, we're using quotes like ganache, and what you're proposing is using them like chocolate chips. That's great, but too many nuts and chips and you don't have a cookie ... you have a big, sticky, crunchy, overly sweet mess. The point is that some restraint, some quality control, and some proportioning is required to make any plan for integrating quotes work. I mean, look at [[Godsend]] [http://heroeswiki.com/index.php?title=Episode:Godsend&oldid=32882 a few revisions back]. It had about 11 images. At a high thumb size and a low screen res, it looked like total crap and was almost completely unreadable. Quotes and images are very much a good thing, but there is definitely such a thing as too much of a good thing.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 14:35, 12 February 2007 (EST)		* I certainly think it's possible to treat quotes similarly to screencaps and have it work out. Sticking them in a bordered div, like a thumbnailed pic, in a larger font, possibly a different color and typeface, and floating them to the sides would I think work quite well in some instances. That said, that doesn't solve the problem of too many quotes (or low quality quotes). These articles are like cookies: the text is the dough, the pictures are like nuts, and the quotes are like chocolate. As it stands, we're using quotes like ganache, and what you're proposing is using them like chocolate chips. That's great, but too many nuts and chips and you don't have a cookie ... you have a big, sticky, crunchy, overly sweet mess. The point is that some restraint, some quality control, and some proportioning is required to make any plan for integrating quotes work. I mean, look at [[Godsend]] [http://heroeswiki.com/index.php?title=Episode:Godsend&oldid=32882 a few revisions back]. It had about 11 images. At a high thumb size and a low screen res, it looked like total crap and was almost completely unreadable. Quotes and images are very much a good thing, but there is definitely such a thing as too much of a good thing.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 14:35, 12 February 2007 (EST)
	**OMG, do we need to start a "Quotes, pt. 4"? ... I really agree that quotes should be used sparingly. I also think that our episode summaries, though fantastically written and full of great information, are sometimes difficult to navigate, simply because they're very long. I played with the idea of breaking them into acts (based on commercial breaks), but that was just not a good solution. Having a few quality, illustrative quotes sprinkled throughout might break up the page nicely. But I'm not sure that's a project I want to take on right away, or even if it has any support from the community. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 14:51, 12 February 2007 (EST)		**OMG, do we need to start a "Quotes, pt. 4"? ... I really agree that quotes should be used sparingly. I also think that our episode summaries, though fantastically written and full of great information, are sometimes difficult to navigate, simply because they're very long. I played with the idea of breaking them into acts (based on commercial breaks), but that was just not a good solution. Having a few quality, illustrative quotes sprinkled throughout might break up the page nicely. But I'm not sure that's a project I want to take on right away, or even if it has any support from the community. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 14:51, 12 February 2007 (EST)
			{{quote \| float=right \| body=I really wish everyone would come to a consensus about quotes \| speaker=User:Hardvice \| listener = User:Ryangibsonstewart \| source = Talk:Episode:Distractions}}
			***I'm willing to entertain any suggestions that will help. I took a stab at creating a template for in-page quotes. Right now, they'll look like this.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 15:21, 12 February 2007 (EST)


	== Every Episode Thus Far... ==		== Every Episode Thus Far... ==

imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* Quotes, pt. 3 */

2007-02-12T19:51:44Z

Quotes, pt. 3

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	I think we're all completely failing to utilize quotations the way they should be used. Quotes are like screencaps. They should appear in the nodegel of any page wherever they'd help illustrate a point of reference. When you show the image of Hiro with arms outstretched in Times Square, it'd be completely acceptable to also show the quotation "YATTA!" In fact one could opt to put '''"YATTA!" - Hiro''' as an alternative to posting the image. In some cases when a page is inundated with graphics, a quotation might be more beneficial, breaking up the page with some variety. Instead of separating the quotations from the synopsis, or doing a full transcript, it'd be ideal to summarize the plots, and then use quotations to highlight particularly good moments of dialogue from the episode. Dismissing quotations entirely, or segregating them to a subsection or page where people won't read them, is just as absurd as removing screencaps and images from the wiki, or relegating them to their own separate pages. -- [[User:ZachsMind\|ZachsMind]] 14:21, 12 February 2007 (EST)		I think we're all completely failing to utilize quotations the way they should be used. Quotes are like screencaps. They should appear in the nodegel of any page wherever they'd help illustrate a point of reference. When you show the image of Hiro with arms outstretched in Times Square, it'd be completely acceptable to also show the quotation "YATTA!" In fact one could opt to put '''"YATTA!" - Hiro''' as an alternative to posting the image. In some cases when a page is inundated with graphics, a quotation might be more beneficial, breaking up the page with some variety. Instead of separating the quotations from the synopsis, or doing a full transcript, it'd be ideal to summarize the plots, and then use quotations to highlight particularly good moments of dialogue from the episode. Dismissing quotations entirely, or segregating them to a subsection or page where people won't read them, is just as absurd as removing screencaps and images from the wiki, or relegating them to their own separate pages. -- [[User:ZachsMind\|ZachsMind]] 14:21, 12 February 2007 (EST)
	* I certainly think it's possible to treat quotes similarly to screencaps and have it work out. Sticking them in a bordered div, like a thumbnailed pic, in a larger font, possibly a different color and typeface, and floating them to the sides would I think work quite well in some instances. That said, that doesn't solve the problem of too many quotes (or low quality quotes). These articles are like cookies: the text is the dough, the pictures are like nuts, and the quotes are like chocolate. As it stands, we're using quotes like ganache, and what you're proposing is using them like chocolate chips. That's great, but too many nuts and chips and you don't have a cookie ... you have a big, sticky, crunchy, overly sweet mess. The point is that some restraint, some quality control, and some proportioning is required to make any plan for integrating quotes work. I mean, look at [[Godsend]] [http://heroeswiki.com/index.php?title=Episode:Godsend&oldid=32882 a few revisions back]. It had about 11 images. At a high thumb size and a low screen res, it looked like total crap and was almost completely unreadable. Quotes and images are very much a good thing, but there is definitely such a thing as too much of a good thing.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 14:35, 12 February 2007 (EST)		* I certainly think it's possible to treat quotes similarly to screencaps and have it work out. Sticking them in a bordered div, like a thumbnailed pic, in a larger font, possibly a different color and typeface, and floating them to the sides would I think work quite well in some instances. That said, that doesn't solve the problem of too many quotes (or low quality quotes). These articles are like cookies: the text is the dough, the pictures are like nuts, and the quotes are like chocolate. As it stands, we're using quotes like ganache, and what you're proposing is using them like chocolate chips. That's great, but too many nuts and chips and you don't have a cookie ... you have a big, sticky, crunchy, overly sweet mess. The point is that some restraint, some quality control, and some proportioning is required to make any plan for integrating quotes work. I mean, look at [[Godsend]] [http://heroeswiki.com/index.php?title=Episode:Godsend&oldid=32882 a few revisions back]. It had about 11 images. At a high thumb size and a low screen res, it looked like total crap and was almost completely unreadable. Quotes and images are very much a good thing, but there is definitely such a thing as too much of a good thing.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 14:35, 12 February 2007 (EST)
			**OMG, do we need to start a "Quotes, pt. 4"? ... I really agree that quotes should be used sparingly. I also think that our episode summaries, though fantastically written and full of great information, are sometimes difficult to navigate, simply because they're very long. I played with the idea of breaking them into acts (based on commercial breaks), but that was just not a good solution. Having a few quality, illustrative quotes sprinkled throughout might break up the page nicely. But I'm not sure that's a project I want to take on right away, or even if it has any support from the community. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 14:51, 12 February 2007 (EST)

	== Every Episode Thus Far... ==		== Every Episode Thus Far... ==

imported>Hardvice: +link

2007-02-12T19:37:24Z

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	I think we're all completely failing to utilize quotations the way they should be used. Quotes are like screencaps. They should appear in the nodegel of any page wherever they'd help illustrate a point of reference. When you show the image of Hiro with arms outstretched in Times Square, it'd be completely acceptable to also show the quotation "YATTA!" In fact one could opt to put '''"YATTA!" - Hiro''' as an alternative to posting the image. In some cases when a page is inundated with graphics, a quotation might be more beneficial, breaking up the page with some variety. Instead of separating the quotations from the synopsis, or doing a full transcript, it'd be ideal to summarize the plots, and then use quotations to highlight particularly good moments of dialogue from the episode. Dismissing quotations entirely, or segregating them to a subsection or page where people won't read them, is just as absurd as removing screencaps and images from the wiki, or relegating them to their own separate pages. -- [[User:ZachsMind\|ZachsMind]] 14:21, 12 February 2007 (EST)		I think we're all completely failing to utilize quotations the way they should be used. Quotes are like screencaps. They should appear in the nodegel of any page wherever they'd help illustrate a point of reference. When you show the image of Hiro with arms outstretched in Times Square, it'd be completely acceptable to also show the quotation "YATTA!" In fact one could opt to put '''"YATTA!" - Hiro''' as an alternative to posting the image. In some cases when a page is inundated with graphics, a quotation might be more beneficial, breaking up the page with some variety. Instead of separating the quotations from the synopsis, or doing a full transcript, it'd be ideal to summarize the plots, and then use quotations to highlight particularly good moments of dialogue from the episode. Dismissing quotations entirely, or segregating them to a subsection or page where people won't read them, is just as absurd as removing screencaps and images from the wiki, or relegating them to their own separate pages. -- [[User:ZachsMind\|ZachsMind]] 14:21, 12 February 2007 (EST)
	* I certainly think it's possible to treat quotes similarly to screencaps and have it work out. Sticking them in a bordered div, like a thumbnailed pic, in a larger font, possibly a different color and typeface, and floating them to the sides would I think work quite well in some instances. That said, that doesn't solve the problem of too many quotes (or low quality quotes). These articles are like cookies: the text is the dough, the pictures are like nuts, and the quotes are like chocolate. As it stands, we're using quotes like ganache, and what you're proposing is using them like chocolate chips. That's great, but too many nuts and chips and you don't have a cookie ... you have a big, sticky, crunchy, overly sweet mess. The point is that some restraint, some quality control, and some proportioning is required to make any plan for integrating quotes work. I mean, look at [[Godsend]] a few revisions back. It had about 11 images. At a high thumb size and a low screen res, it looked like total crap and was almost completely unreadable. Quotes and images are very much a good thing, but there is definitely such a thing as too much of a good thing.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 14:35, 12 February 2007 (EST)		* I certainly think it's possible to treat quotes similarly to screencaps and have it work out. Sticking them in a bordered div, like a thumbnailed pic, in a larger font, possibly a different color and typeface, and floating them to the sides would I think work quite well in some instances. That said, that doesn't solve the problem of too many quotes (or low quality quotes). These articles are like cookies: the text is the dough, the pictures are like nuts, and the quotes are like chocolate. As it stands, we're using quotes like ganache, and what you're proposing is using them like chocolate chips. That's great, but too many nuts and chips and you don't have a cookie ... you have a big, sticky, crunchy, overly sweet mess. The point is that some restraint, some quality control, and some proportioning is required to make any plan for integrating quotes work. I mean, look at [[Godsend]] [http://heroeswiki.com/index.php?title=Episode:Godsend&oldid=32882 a few revisions back]. It had about 11 images. At a high thumb size and a low screen res, it looked like total crap and was almost completely unreadable. Quotes and images are very much a good thing, but there is definitely such a thing as too much of a good thing.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 14:35, 12 February 2007 (EST)

	== Every Episode Thus Far... ==		== Every Episode Thus Far... ==

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	**I believe [[Claude]] said something to [[Peter]] about him having too many distractions to focus on developing control of his power. This would have been shortly after they got back together following the purse-snatching incident, IIRC. --[[User:Ted C\|Ted C]] 14:33, 8 February 2007 (EST)		**I believe [[Claude]] said something to [[Peter]] about him having too many distractions to focus on developing control of his power. This would have been shortly after they got back together following the purse-snatching incident, IIRC. --[[User:Ted C\|Ted C]] 14:33, 8 February 2007 (EST)

		⚫	{{quote \| float=right \| body=I really wish everyone would come to a consensus about quotes \| speaker=User:Hardvice \| listener = User:Ryangibsonstewart \| source = Talk:Episode:Distractions}}
	I think we're all completely failing to utilize quotations the way they should be used. Quotes are like screencaps. They should appear in the nodegel of any page wherever they'd help illustrate a point of reference. When you show the image of Hiro with arms outstretched in Times Square, it'd be completely acceptable to also show the quotation "YATTA!" In fact one could opt to put '''"YATTA!" - Hiro''' as an alternative to posting the image. In some cases when a page is inundated with graphics, a quotation might be more beneficial, breaking up the page with some variety. Instead of separating the quotations from the synopsis, or doing a full transcript, it'd be ideal to summarize the plots, and then use quotations to highlight particularly good moments of dialogue from the episode. Dismissing quotations entirely, or segregating them to a subsection or page where people won't read them, is just as absurd as removing screencaps and images from the wiki, or relegating them to their own separate pages. -- [[User:ZachsMind\|ZachsMind]] 14:21, 12 February 2007 (EST)		I think we're all completely failing to utilize quotations the way they should be used. Quotes are like screencaps. They should appear in the nodegel of any page wherever they'd help illustrate a point of reference. When you show the image of Hiro with arms outstretched in Times Square, it'd be completely acceptable to also show the quotation "YATTA!" In fact one could opt to put '''"YATTA!" - Hiro''' as an alternative to posting the image. In some cases when a page is inundated with graphics, a quotation might be more beneficial, breaking up the page with some variety. Instead of separating the quotations from the synopsis, or doing a full transcript, it'd be ideal to summarize the plots, and then use quotations to highlight particularly good moments of dialogue from the episode. Dismissing quotations entirely, or segregating them to a subsection or page where people won't read them, is just as absurd as removing screencaps and images from the wiki, or relegating them to their own separate pages. -- [[User:ZachsMind\|ZachsMind]] 14:21, 12 February 2007 (EST)
	* I certainly think it's possible to treat quotes similarly to screencaps and have it work out. Sticking them in a bordered div, like a thumbnailed pic, in a larger font, possibly a different color and typeface, and floating them to the sides would I think work quite well in some instances. That said, that doesn't solve the problem of too many quotes (or low quality quotes). These articles are like cookies: the text is the dough, the pictures are like nuts, and the quotes are like chocolate. As it stands, we're using quotes like ganache, and what you're proposing is using them like chocolate chips. That's great, but too many nuts and chips and you don't have a cookie ... you have a big, sticky, crunchy, overly sweet mess. The point is that some restraint, some quality control, and some proportioning is required to make any plan for integrating quotes work. I mean, look at [[Godsend]] [http://heroeswiki.com/index.php?title=Episode:Godsend&oldid=32882 a few revisions back]. It had about 11 images. At a high thumb size and a low screen res, it looked like total crap and was almost completely unreadable. Quotes and images are very much a good thing, but there is definitely such a thing as too much of a good thing.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 14:35, 12 February 2007 (EST)		* I certainly think it's possible to treat quotes similarly to screencaps and have it work out. Sticking them in a bordered div, like a thumbnailed pic, in a larger font, possibly a different color and typeface, and floating them to the sides would I think work quite well in some instances. That said, that doesn't solve the problem of too many quotes (or low quality quotes). These articles are like cookies: the text is the dough, the pictures are like nuts, and the quotes are like chocolate. As it stands, we're using quotes like ganache, and what you're proposing is using them like chocolate chips. That's great, but too many nuts and chips and you don't have a cookie ... you have a big, sticky, crunchy, overly sweet mess. The point is that some restraint, some quality control, and some proportioning is required to make any plan for integrating quotes work. I mean, look at [[Godsend]] [http://heroeswiki.com/index.php?title=Episode:Godsend&oldid=32882 a few revisions back]. It had about 11 images. At a high thumb size and a low screen res, it looked like total crap and was almost completely unreadable. Quotes and images are very much a good thing, but there is definitely such a thing as too much of a good thing.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 14:35, 12 February 2007 (EST)
	**OMG, do we need to start a "Quotes, pt. 4"? ... I really agree that quotes should be used sparingly. I also think that our episode summaries, though fantastically written and full of great information, are sometimes difficult to navigate, simply because they're very long. I played with the idea of breaking them into acts (based on commercial breaks), but that was just not a good solution. Having a few quality, illustrative quotes sprinkled throughout might break up the page nicely. But I'm not sure that's a project I want to take on right away, or even if it has any support from the community. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 14:51, 12 February 2007 (EST)		**OMG, do we need to start a "Quotes, pt. 4"? ... I really agree that quotes should be used sparingly. I also think that our episode summaries, though fantastically written and full of great information, are sometimes difficult to navigate, simply because they're very long. I played with the idea of breaking them into acts (based on commercial breaks), but that was just not a good solution. Having a few quality, illustrative quotes sprinkled throughout might break up the page nicely. But I'm not sure that's a project I want to take on right away, or even if it has any support from the community. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 14:51, 12 February 2007 (EST)
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	***I'm willing to entertain any suggestions that will help. I took a stab at creating a template for in-page quotes. Right now, they'll look like this.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 15:21, 12 February 2007 (EST)		***I'm willing to entertain any suggestions that will help. I took a stab at creating a template for in-page quotes. Right now, they'll look like this.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 15:21, 12 February 2007 (EST)