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2007-10-17T00:33:39Z

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	** But Bennett would have confronted the Haitian about that. [[User:Locutus\|Locutus]] 20:22, 16 October 2007 (EDT)		** But Bennett would have confronted the Haitian about that. [[User:Locutus\|Locutus]] 20:22, 16 October 2007 (EDT)
	*** Unless Bennet didn't know exactly how the Haitian's power works. Considering he thought he was mute until ''Company Man'', I'm guessing there's a lot he didn't know about him.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 20:25, 16 October 2007 (EDT)		*** Unless Bennet didn't know exactly how the Haitian's power works. Considering he thought he was mute until ''Company Man'', I'm guessing there's a lot he didn't know about him.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 20:25, 16 October 2007 (EDT)
	**** Another possibility, which I had thought had been floated on the [[Theory:the Haitian\|Haitian's theory page]] but apparently not, is that the Haitian can only block reachy-outy powers like bliss'n'horror, telepathy, persuasion, and telekinesis, but might not ~~effect~~ powers internal to the powered person like regeneration, flight and such. With Nathan's escape being the only evidence of this I can think of, Hardvice's explanation is probably the more likely. We would need to see him in the room with, say, Niki, Claire or Monica trying to use strength, regeneration or reflexive whoopass for more. And I don't know how to categorize Hiro's space-time folding for this purpose; is it reachy-outy or pointed-inward? Because the Haitian was able to neutralize Hiro's power in ''[[Episode:Five Years Gone\|Five Years Gone]]''. If Hardvice is correct, it's good to know that the Haitian has learned to control his power negation or his mere presence would undermine our heroes like it undid his father. --[[User:FissionChips\|FissionChips]] 20:27, 16 October 2007 (EDT)		**** Another possibility, which I had thought had been floated on the [[Theory:the Haitian\|Haitian's theory page]] but apparently not, is that the Haitian can only block reachy-outy powers like bliss'n'horror, telepathy, persuasion, and telekinesis, but might not affect powers internal to the powered person like regeneration, flight and such. With Nathan's escape being the only evidence of this I can think of, Hardvice's explanation is probably the more likely. We would need to see him in the room with, say, Niki, Claire or Monica trying to use strength, regeneration or reflexive whoopass for more. And I don't know how to categorize Hiro's space-time folding for this purpose; is it reachy-outy or pointed-inward? Because the Haitian was able to neutralize Hiro's power in ''[[Episode:Five Years Gone\|Five Years Gone]]''. If Hardvice is correct, it's good to know that the Haitian has learned to control his power negation or his mere presence would undermine our heroes like it undid his father. --[[User:FissionChips\|FissionChips]] 20:27, 16 October 2007 (EDT)

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2007-10-17T00:27:57Z

Nathan escaping

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	** But Bennett would have confronted the Haitian about that. [[User:Locutus\|Locutus]] 20:22, 16 October 2007 (EDT)		** But Bennett would have confronted the Haitian about that. [[User:Locutus\|Locutus]] 20:22, 16 October 2007 (EDT)
	*** Unless Bennet didn't know exactly how the Haitian's power works. Considering he thought he was mute until ''Company Man'', I'm guessing there's a lot he didn't know about him.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 20:25, 16 October 2007 (EDT)		*** Unless Bennet didn't know exactly how the Haitian's power works. Considering he thought he was mute until ''Company Man'', I'm guessing there's a lot he didn't know about him.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 20:25, 16 October 2007 (EDT)
			**** Another possibility, which I had thought had been floated on the [[Theory:the Haitian\|Haitian's theory page]] but apparently not, is that the Haitian can only block reachy-outy powers like bliss'n'horror, telepathy, persuasion, and telekinesis, but might not effect powers internal to the powered person like regeneration, flight and such. With Nathan's escape being the only evidence of this I can think of, Hardvice's explanation is probably the more likely. We would need to see him in the room with, say, Niki, Claire or Monica trying to use strength, regeneration or reflexive whoopass for more. And I don't know how to categorize Hiro's space-time folding for this purpose; is it reachy-outy or pointed-inward? Because the Haitian was able to neutralize Hiro's power in ''[[Episode:Five Years Gone\|Five Years Gone]]''. If Hardvice is correct, it's good to know that the Haitian has learned to control his power negation or his mere presence would undermine our heroes like it undid his father. --[[User:FissionChips\|FissionChips]] 20:27, 16 October 2007 (EDT)

imported>Hardvice at 00:25, 17 October 2007

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	After reading the comic about the Haitian I've asked myself why Nathan can just fly away. In the comics (and the episodes in the future) it looks like the Haitian doesn't need to activate his blocking ability. [[User:Locutus]]		After reading the comic about the Haitian I've asked myself why Nathan can just fly away. In the comics (and the episodes in the future) it looks like the Haitian doesn't need to activate his blocking ability. [[User:Locutus]]
	* One answer is, of course, that the Haitian is ''actually'' working for [[Angela Petrelli]], who probably doesn't want her son abducted and marked.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 19:55, 16 October 2007 (EDT)		* One answer is, of course, that the Haitian is ''actually'' working for [[Angela Petrelli]], who probably doesn't want her son abducted and marked.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 19:55, 16 October 2007 (EDT)
	* But Bennett would have confronted the Haitian about that. [[User:Locutus\|Locutus]] 20:22, 16 October 2007 (EDT)		** But Bennett would have confronted the Haitian about that. [[User:Locutus\|Locutus]] 20:22, 16 October 2007 (EDT)
			*** Unless Bennet didn't know exactly how the Haitian's power works. Considering he thought he was mute until ''Company Man'', I'm guessing there's a lot he didn't know about him.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 20:25, 16 October 2007 (EDT)

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Nathan escaping

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	After reading the comic about the Haitian I've asked myself why Nathan can just fly away. In the comics (and the episodes in the future) it looks like the Haitian doesn't need to activate his blocking ability. [[User:Locutus]]		After reading the comic about the Haitian I've asked myself why Nathan can just fly away. In the comics (and the episodes in the future) it looks like the Haitian doesn't need to activate his blocking ability. [[User:Locutus]]
	* One answer is, of course, that the Haitian is ''actually'' working for [[Angela Petrelli]], who probably doesn't want her son abducted and marked.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 19:55, 16 October 2007 (EDT)		* One answer is, of course, that the Haitian is ''actually'' working for [[Angela Petrelli]], who probably doesn't want her son abducted and marked.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 19:55, 16 October 2007 (EDT)
	* But Bennett would have confronted the Haitian ~~with~~ that. [[User:Locutus\|Locutus]] 20:22, 16 October 2007 (EDT)		* But Bennett would have confronted the Haitian about that. [[User:Locutus\|Locutus]] 20:22, 16 October 2007 (EDT)

imported>Locutus: /* Nathan escaping */

2007-10-17T00:22:08Z

Nathan escaping

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	After reading the comic about the Haitian I've asked myself why Nathan can just fly away. In the comics (and the episodes in the future) it looks like the Haitian doesn't need to activate his blocking ability. [[User:Locutus]]		After reading the comic about the Haitian I've asked myself why Nathan can just fly away. In the comics (and the episodes in the future) it looks like the Haitian doesn't need to activate his blocking ability. [[User:Locutus]]
	* One answer is, of course, that the Haitian is ''actually'' working for [[Angela Petrelli]], who probably doesn't want her son abducted and marked.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 19:55, 16 October 2007 (EDT)		* One answer is, of course, that the Haitian is ''actually'' working for [[Angela Petrelli]], who probably doesn't want her son abducted and marked.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 19:55, 16 October 2007 (EDT)
			* But Bennett would have confronted the Haitian with that. [[User:Locutus\|Locutus]] 20:22, 16 October 2007 (EDT)

imported>Hardvice at 23:55, 16 October 2007

2007-10-16T23:55:49Z

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	== Nathan escaping ==		== Nathan escaping ==
	After reading the comic about the Haitian I've asked myself why Nathan can just fly away. In the comics (and the episodes in the future) it looks like the Haitian doesn't need to activate his blocking ability. [[User:Locutus]]		After reading the comic about the Haitian I've asked myself why Nathan can just fly away. In the comics (and the episodes in the future) it looks like the Haitian doesn't need to activate his blocking ability. [[User:Locutus]]
			* One answer is, of course, that the Haitian is ''actually'' working for [[Angela Petrelli]], who probably doesn't want her son abducted and marked.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 19:55, 16 October 2007 (EDT)

imported>Admin: new discussions go at the bottom

2007-10-16T23:37:14Z

new discussions go at the bottom

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	I think that black haired woman in the Hiro's cafe when Nathan entered was Elizabet Mitchell of Lost. [[User:Cordell\|Cordell]] 19:05, 8 February 2007 (EST)		I think that black haired woman in the Hiro's cafe when Nathan entered was Elizabet Mitchell of Lost. [[User:Cordell\|Cordell]] 19:05, 8 February 2007 (EST)

⚫	== Nathan escaping ==
⚫	After reading the comic about the Haitian I've asked myself why Nathan can just fly away. In the comics (and the episodes in the future) it looks like the Haitian doesn't need to activate his blocking ability. [[User:Locutus]]

	==Zugunruhe==		==Zugunruhe==
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	* slaps forehead - [[User:Emerson]]		* slaps forehead - [[User:Emerson]]

		⚫	== Nathan escaping ==
		⚫	After reading the comic about the Haitian I've asked myself why Nathan can just fly away. In the comics (and the episodes in the future) it looks like the Haitian doesn't need to activate his blocking ability. [[User:Locutus]]

imported>Locutus at 23:36, 16 October 2007

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	I think that black haired woman in the Hiro's cafe when Nathan entered was Elizabet Mitchell of Lost. [[User:Cordell\|Cordell]] 19:05, 8 February 2007 (EST)		I think that black haired woman in the Hiro's cafe when Nathan entered was Elizabet Mitchell of Lost. [[User:Cordell\|Cordell]] 19:05, 8 February 2007 (EST)

		⚫	== Nathan escaping ==
		⚫	After reading the comic about the Haitian I've asked myself why Nathan can just fly away. In the comics (and the episodes in the future) it looks like the Haitian doesn't need to activate his blocking ability. [[User:Locutus]]

	==Zugunruhe==		==Zugunruhe==
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	* slaps forehead - [[User:Emerson]]		* slaps forehead - [[User:Emerson]]

⚫	== Nathan escaping ==
⚫	After reading the comic about the Haitian I've asked myself why Nathan can just fly away. In the comics (and the episodes in the future) it looks like the Haitian doesn't need to activate his blocking ability.

imported>Locutus at 23:34, 16 October 2007

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	* slaps forehead - [[User:Emerson]]		* slaps forehead - [[User:Emerson]]

			== Nathan escaping ==
			After reading the comic about the Haitian I've asked myself why Nathan can just fly away. In the comics (and the episodes in the future) it looks like the Haitian doesn't need to activate his blocking ability.

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	** But Bennett would have confronted the Haitian about that. [[User:Locutus\|Locutus]] 20:22, 16 October 2007 (EDT)		** But Bennett would have confronted the Haitian about that. [[User:Locutus\|Locutus]] 20:22, 16 October 2007 (EDT)
	*** Unless Bennet didn't know exactly how the Haitian's power works. Considering he thought he was mute until ''Company Man'', I'm guessing there's a lot he didn't know about him.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 20:25, 16 October 2007 (EDT)		*** Unless Bennet didn't know exactly how the Haitian's power works. Considering he thought he was mute until ''Company Man'', I'm guessing there's a lot he didn't know about him.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 20:25, 16 October 2007 (EDT)
	**** Another possibility, which I had thought had been floated on the [[Theory:the Haitian\|Haitian's theory page]] but apparently not, is that the Haitian can only block reachy-outy powers like bliss'n'horror, telepathy, persuasion, and telekinesis, but might not ~~effect~~ powers internal to the powered person like regeneration, flight and such. With Nathan's escape being the only evidence of this I can think of, Hardvice's explanation is probably the more likely. We would need to see him in the room with, say, Niki, Claire or Monica trying to use strength, regeneration or reflexive whoopass for more. And I don't know how to categorize Hiro's space-time folding for this purpose; is it reachy-outy or pointed-inward? Because the Haitian was able to neutralize Hiro's power in ''[[Episode:Five Years Gone\|Five Years Gone]]''. If Hardvice is correct, it's good to know that the Haitian has learned to control his power negation or his mere presence would undermine our heroes like it undid his father. --[[User:FissionChips\|FissionChips]] 20:27, 16 October 2007 (EDT)		**** Another possibility, which I had thought had been floated on the [[Theory:the Haitian\|Haitian's theory page]] but apparently not, is that the Haitian can only block reachy-outy powers like bliss'n'horror, telepathy, persuasion, and telekinesis, but might not affect powers internal to the powered person like regeneration, flight and such. With Nathan's escape being the only evidence of this I can think of, Hardvice's explanation is probably the more likely. We would need to see him in the room with, say, Niki, Claire or Monica trying to use strength, regeneration or reflexive whoopass for more. And I don't know how to categorize Hiro's space-time folding for this purpose; is it reachy-outy or pointed-inward? Because the Haitian was able to neutralize Hiro's power in ''[[Episode:Five Years Gone\|Five Years Gone]]''. If Hardvice is correct, it's good to know that the Haitian has learned to control his power negation or his mere presence would undermine our heroes like it undid his father. --[[User:FissionChips\|FissionChips]] 20:27, 16 October 2007 (EDT)

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	** But Bennett would have confronted the Haitian about that. [[User:Locutus\|Locutus]] 20:22, 16 October 2007 (EDT)		** But Bennett would have confronted the Haitian about that. [[User:Locutus\|Locutus]] 20:22, 16 October 2007 (EDT)
	*** Unless Bennet didn't know exactly how the Haitian's power works. Considering he thought he was mute until ''Company Man'', I'm guessing there's a lot he didn't know about him.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 20:25, 16 October 2007 (EDT)		*** Unless Bennet didn't know exactly how the Haitian's power works. Considering he thought he was mute until ''Company Man'', I'm guessing there's a lot he didn't know about him.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 20:25, 16 October 2007 (EDT)
			**** Another possibility, which I had thought had been floated on the [[Theory:the Haitian\|Haitian's theory page]] but apparently not, is that the Haitian can only block reachy-outy powers like bliss'n'horror, telepathy, persuasion, and telekinesis, but might not effect powers internal to the powered person like regeneration, flight and such. With Nathan's escape being the only evidence of this I can think of, Hardvice's explanation is probably the more likely. We would need to see him in the room with, say, Niki, Claire or Monica trying to use strength, regeneration or reflexive whoopass for more. And I don't know how to categorize Hiro's space-time folding for this purpose; is it reachy-outy or pointed-inward? Because the Haitian was able to neutralize Hiro's power in ''[[Episode:Five Years Gone\|Five Years Gone]]''. If Hardvice is correct, it's good to know that the Haitian has learned to control his power negation or his mere presence would undermine our heroes like it undid his father. --[[User:FissionChips\|FissionChips]] 20:27, 16 October 2007 (EDT)