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imported>Yoshi n1: Damian

2010-03-05T19:34:01Z

Damian

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imported>Yoshi n1: Damian

2010-03-05T19:34:01Z

Damian

imported>Yoshi n1: red link

2010-02-04T14:27:58Z

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imported>Iheartheroes: there are clearly more places.

2010-01-17T16:00:48Z

there are clearly more places.

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imported>Yoshi n1: /* Miscellaneous Updates */

2010-01-17T15:10:17Z

Miscellaneous Updates

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imported>Leckie: /* New episode checklist */ removed redlink

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New episode checklist: removed redlink

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	___ [[Space-time manipulation]] <br />		___ [[Space-time manipulation]] <br />
	___ [[Rapid cellular regeneration]] <br />		___ [[Rapid cellular regeneration]] <br />
	___ [[Electric ~~manpulation~~]] <br />		___ [[Electric manipulation]] <br />
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	___ [[Super speed]] <br />		___ [[Super speed]] <br />
	___ [[Telekinesis]] <br />		___ [[Telekinesis]] <br />

imported>Iheartheroes: /* New episode checklist */

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imported>Futurepeter: /* Actors/characters */

2009-12-09T20:22:02Z

Actors/characters

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	***** Thanks, FP. I'll see what I can find out from my end. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 15:43, 25 November 2009 (EST)		***** Thanks, FP. I'll see what I can find out from my end. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 15:43, 25 November 2009 (EST)
	****** I just got an email from Lestat's handler, who also handles Beowulf. Miss Lovegood is portrayed by [[Akasha]], who lives with Lestat, but they are unrelated. Nothing incestuous. I've got lots of pictures and information. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 16:46, 1 December 2009 (EST)		****** I just got an email from Lestat's handler, who also handles Beowulf. Miss Lovegood is portrayed by [[Akasha]], who lives with Lestat, but they are unrelated. Nothing incestuous. I've got lots of pictures and information. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 16:46, 1 December 2009 (EST)
			******* All right then it is settled. I didn't get any answer from the studio animal website. Thanx for the update! --<span style="font-size: 8pt; font-weight:bold;"> [[User:Futurepeter\|Futurepeter]] ( [[User:Futurepeter\|U]] - [[User_talk:Futurepeter\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Futurepeter\|C]]) 15:22, 9 December 2009 (EST)</span>
	*Where are Angela's butlers/servants?--[[User:Ratclaws\|Ratclaws]] 20:13, 24 November 2009 (EST)		*Where are Angela's butlers/servants?--[[User:Ratclaws\|Ratclaws]] 20:13, 24 November 2009 (EST)
	** They were uncredited. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 21:00, 24 November 2009 (EST)		** They were uncredited. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 21:00, 24 November 2009 (EST)

imported>Skullman1392: /* Damien */

2009-12-06T18:19:58Z

Damien

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	[[Image:0308-arthur-power-hiro.jpg]] [[Image:Damien's ability in 410.JPG]]		[[Image:0308-arthur-power-hiro.jpg]] [[Image:Damien's ability in 410.JPG]]

			That is exactly what I thought! I flashed back to Arthur and Hiro in Africa, and tought, ''oh boy, here we go again...'' --[[User:Skullman1392\|Skullman1392]] 13:19, 6 December 2009 (EST)

	== Sylar ==		== Sylar ==

imported>Mc hammark: /* Damien */

2009-12-06T18:15:55Z

Damien

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	*I put in the ''manipulates'' bit because we don't know what exactly it is that he does, but he does manipulate them in some way. But that's not to say that's a name to use. --[[User:Mc hammark\|mc_hammark]] 11:56, 25 November 2009 (EST)		*I put in the ''manipulates'' bit because we don't know what exactly it is that he does, but he does manipulate them in some way. But that's not to say that's a name to use. --[[User:Mc hammark\|mc_hammark]] 11:56, 25 November 2009 (EST)

			Brings back memories, doesn't it.

			[[Image:0308-arthur-power-hiro.jpg]] [[Image:Damien's ability in 410.JPG]]

	== Sylar ==		== Sylar ==

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	_X_ [[Joseph Sullivan]] <br />		_X_ [[Joseph Sullivan]] <br />
	_X_ [[Gretchen Berg]] <br />		_X_ [[Gretchen Berg]] <br />
	_X_ [[~~Damien~~]] <br />		_X_ [[Damian]] <br />
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	:::::This 4 episodes we have seen where very good and volume 5 is getting better and better. However i still do think that season 1 was better. They are on the right path.--{{user:Yoshi n1/sig}} 09:29, 25 November 2009 (EST)		:::::This 4 episodes we have seen where very good and volume 5 is getting better and better. However i still do think that season 1 was better. They are on the right path.--{{user:Yoshi n1/sig}} 09:29, 25 November 2009 (EST)

	== ~~Damien~~ ==		== Damian ==
	So can we conclude from this that [[~~Damien~~]]'s powers include more than simply [[memory restoration]]? He made Hiro forget various events that occurred to him since he came to the carnival, or rewound his memories, or... something more then merely projecting/restoring lost memories. And the events we saw in the memory flash were things that Hiro hadn't forgotten, so they weren't "restored." --[[User:CourtesyofTVRage.com\|CourtesyofTVRage.com]] 02:42, 24 November 2009 (EST)		So can we conclude from this that [[Damian]]'s powers include more than simply [[memory restoration]]? He made Hiro forget various events that occurred to him since he came to the carnival, or rewound his memories, or... something more then merely projecting/restoring lost memories. And the events we saw in the memory flash were things that Hiro hadn't forgotten, so they weren't "restored." --[[User:CourtesyofTVRage.com\|CourtesyofTVRage.com]] 02:42, 24 November 2009 (EST)
	*Are we certain that it was memory erasure? It could be, but for it, the first thing that came to my mind was that he did something akin to a system restoration, kinda like you do when something happens to your computer. It doesn't necessarily erases things, but it makes them just as they were in a certain point in the past. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 11:51, 24 November 2009 (EST)		*Are we certain that it was memory erasure? It could be, but for it, the first thing that came to my mind was that he did something akin to a system restoration, kinda like you do when something happens to your computer. It doesn't necessarily erases things, but it makes them just as they were in a certain point in the past. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 11:51, 24 November 2009 (EST)
	**I get the impression Samuel trusts ~~Damien~~ far more than he should. The only two times we've seen ~~Damien~~ do something, it had the opposite effect to what Samuel intended. :D --[[User:Cosmic AC\|Cosmic AC]] 16:31, 24 November 2009 (EST)		**I get the impression Samuel trusts Damian far more than he should. The only two times we've seen Damian do something, it had the opposite effect to what Samuel intended. :D --[[User:Cosmic AC\|Cosmic AC]] 16:31, 24 November 2009 (EST)
	**If you perform a restoration, it does "necessarily" erase things: it erases everything after the system reset point you're restoring from. That's often the point of a system restore: to erase malware, viruses, and so on. Also, ~~Damien~~ didn't "reset" Sylar's memories. He didn't forget his arrest, the police captain, the psychiatrist, etc., all of which he met after the "reset" point." What he did to Sylar and what he did to Hiro are two different (but almost certainly related) things. We don't know the full extent of what he can do, but it is clearly more than just giving people memories they used to have but don't now (as was the case with Sylar). We'll know more with Hiro's next appearance, but odds are the power is going to need to be renamed/updated. --[[User:CourtesyofTVRage.com\|CourtesyofTVRage.com]] 23:39, 24 November 2009 (EST)		**If you perform a restoration, it does "necessarily" erase things: it erases everything after the system reset point you're restoring from. That's often the point of a system restore: to erase malware, viruses, and so on. Also, Damian didn't "reset" Sylar's memories. He didn't forget his arrest, the police captain, the psychiatrist, etc., all of which he met after the "reset" point." What he did to Sylar and what he did to Hiro are two different (but almost certainly related) things. We don't know the full extent of what he can do, but it is clearly more than just giving people memories they used to have but don't now (as was the case with Sylar). We'll know more with Hiro's next appearance, but odds are the power is going to need to be renamed/updated. --[[User:CourtesyofTVRage.com\|CourtesyofTVRage.com]] 23:39, 24 November 2009 (EST)

	Also, on the Memory Restoration page, the caption of an example even says "~~Damien~~ ''manipulates'' Hiro's memories. But it looks like the discussion there is indicating a change to Memory Manipulation. --[[User:CourtesyofTVRage.com\|CourtesyofTVRage.com]] 23:34, 24 November 2009 (EST)		Also, on the Memory Restoration page, the caption of an example even says "Damian ''manipulates'' Hiro's memories. But it looks like the discussion there is indicating a change to Memory Manipulation. --[[User:CourtesyofTVRage.com\|CourtesyofTVRage.com]] 23:34, 24 November 2009 (EST)

	*I put in the ''manipulates'' bit because we don't know what exactly it is that he does, but he does manipulate them in some way. But that's not to say that's a name to use. --[[User:Mc hammark\|mc_hammark]] 11:56, 25 November 2009 (EST)		*I put in the ''manipulates'' bit because we don't know what exactly it is that he does, but he does manipulate them in some way. But that's not to say that's a name to use. --[[User:Mc hammark\|mc_hammark]] 11:56, 25 November 2009 (EST)
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	**** Oh yeah, that makes total sense! -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 21:01, 24 November 2009 (EST)		**** Oh yeah, that makes total sense! -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 21:01, 24 November 2009 (EST)
	*****But wouldn't he call her Mary Jane instead of Watson? It just sounds a bit funny if Spider-Man yelled to the Green Goblin "Give me back Watson!! instead of "Give me back Mary Jane" -- [[User:SlicinDicinEdgar\|\|SlicinDicinEdgar]]		*****But wouldn't he call her Mary Jane instead of Watson? It just sounds a bit funny if Spider-Man yelled to the Green Goblin "Give me back Watson!! instead of "Give me back Mary Jane" -- [[User:SlicinDicinEdgar\|\|SlicinDicinEdgar]]
	******He is '''most likely''' talking about Charlie. Why would he be talking about Holmes? But the backwardsness is the point. Spider Man wouldn't say that. But we don't know what ~~Damien~~ did to Hiro, so Hiro is now talking backwards. {{User:Iheartheroes/sig}} 23:17, 24 November 2009 (EST)		******He is '''most likely''' talking about Charlie. Why would he be talking about Holmes? But the backwardsness is the point. Spider Man wouldn't say that. But we don't know what Damian did to Hiro, so Hiro is now talking backwards. {{User:Iheartheroes/sig}} 23:17, 24 November 2009 (EST)
	******* I think if he was referring to Charlie he would say "MJ" or "Mary Jane" and not "Watson" but then again Ando doesn't need Hiro's help so it's confusing to see why he would help Ando. --[[User:Dman dustin\|Dman dustin]] 23:25, 24 November 2009 (EST)		******* I think if he was referring to Charlie he would say "MJ" or "Mary Jane" and not "Watson" but then again Ando doesn't need Hiro's help so it's confusing to see why he would help Ando. --[[User:Dman dustin\|Dman dustin]] 23:25, 24 November 2009 (EST)
	******** Guys, in Japanese, people's family name is said first. May be that's why he said Watson instead of MJ - in that "confused" state of mind :) --[[User:Janrodrigo\|Janrodrigo]] 00:22, 25 November 2009 (EST)		******** Guys, in Japanese, people's family name is said first. May be that's why he said Watson instead of MJ - in that "confused" state of mind :) --[[User:Janrodrigo\|Janrodrigo]] 00:22, 25 November 2009 (EST)
	********* Right. I don't think we can accurately declare what Hiro "would" or "wouldn't" say since he obviously was in an altered state. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 01:02, 25 November 2009 (EST)		********* Right. I don't think we can accurately declare what Hiro "would" or "wouldn't" say since he obviously was in an altered state. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 01:02, 25 November 2009 (EST)
	********** If Hiro goes back next episode to get Ando, it's a reference to Dr. John Watson, Sherlock Holmes' sidekick (who is always referred to simply by his last name). If Hiro goes to rescue Charlie, we know it's Mary Jane Watson (who is never referred to by just her last name). I think this one is reliant on what Hiro does next episode. [[User:NileQT87\|NileQT87]] 18:46, 25 November 2009 (EST)		********** If Hiro goes back next episode to get Ando, it's a reference to Dr. John Watson, Sherlock Holmes' sidekick (who is always referred to simply by his last name). If Hiro goes to rescue Charlie, we know it's Mary Jane Watson (who is never referred to by just her last name). I think this one is reliant on what Hiro does next episode. [[User:NileQT87\|NileQT87]] 18:46, 25 November 2009 (EST)
	***********I think it's a Charlie reference, since before ~~Damien~~ grabbed him Hiro and Samuel had been talking about her. And as somebody else pointed out, why would Ando need Hiro's help? As far as he knows, he's fine, while Charlie clearly needs saving. [[User:Swmystery\|Swm]] 05:03, 28 November 2009 (EST)		***********I think it's a Charlie reference, since before Damian grabbed him Hiro and Samuel had been talking about her. And as somebody else pointed out, why would Ando need Hiro's help? As far as he knows, he's fine, while Charlie clearly needs saving. [[User:Swmystery\|Swm]] 05:03, 28 November 2009 (EST)
	********* Ishi referred to HRG as "Noah Bennet" when speaking to Hiro, in that order... So Watson may not be MJ, I mean, Charlie. {{User:Altes/Signature}}		********* Ishi referred to HRG as "Noah Bennet" when speaking to Hiro, in that order... So Watson may not be MJ, I mean, Charlie. {{User:Altes/Signature}}
	*************Now that I think about it more, he wouldn't know if anything is wrong with Ando. For all we know, Samuel could've sent...I don't know...Someone to go kill/hurt him and ~~Damien~~ was telling him. Ando did seem to be in the memories alot....{{User:Iheartheroes/sig}} 12:32, 28 November 2009 (EST)		*************Now that I think about it more, he wouldn't know if anything is wrong with Ando. For all we know, Samuel could've sent...I don't know...Someone to go kill/hurt him and Damian was telling him. Ando did seem to be in the memories alot....{{User:Iheartheroes/sig}} 12:32, 28 November 2009 (EST)
	* Well a scene was shown in "Fifth Stage" and it showed Hiro running with Mohinder and Ando. I'm not sure what to think of that scene since it doesn't reveal much or even if it was new footage. Could it be an indicator that he was referring to Ando and not Charlie? Or could he have gotten Mohinder and Ando to help him find Charlie. It looks like we'll have to wait until January. --[[User:Dman dustin\|Dman dustin]] 09:51, 1 December 2009 (EST)		* Well a scene was shown in "Fifth Stage" and it showed Hiro running with Mohinder and Ando. I'm not sure what to think of that scene since it doesn't reveal much or even if it was new footage. Could it be an indicator that he was referring to Ando and not Charlie? Or could he have gotten Mohinder and Ando to help him find Charlie. It looks like we'll have to wait until January. --[[User:Dman dustin\|Dman dustin]] 09:51, 1 December 2009 (EST)
	** The first thing that came to my mind was that this was old footage, from early Volume 4, when they fled Danko's men, but Ando wasn't with them at the time, so I'm out of ideas. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 13:04, 1 December 2009 (EST)		** The first thing that came to my mind was that this was old footage, from early Volume 4, when they fled Danko's men, but Ando wasn't with them at the time, so I'm out of ideas. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 13:04, 1 December 2009 (EST)
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	==Anyone else waiting for the....==		==Anyone else waiting for the....==

	I was sure Peter was going to do something to slyar, something like "You don't think i'd leave you here with Sylar in you and not take an ability to protect myself" moment. Alas the plot turned, at least this way we might a get a dual more than 10 seconds long since after the first season. I also wasn't expecting ~~Damien~~, Amanda or Lauren to show up again, that was a nice suprise :D --[[User:Fr0z3nB0nes\|Fr0z3nB0nes]] 18:45, 24 November 2009 (EST)		I was sure Peter was going to do something to slyar, something like "You don't think i'd leave you here with Sylar in you and not take an ability to protect myself" moment. Alas the plot turned, at least this way we might a get a dual more than 10 seconds long since after the first season. I also wasn't expecting Damian, Amanda or Lauren to show up again, that was a nice suprise :D --[[User:Fr0z3nB0nes\|Fr0z3nB0nes]] 18:45, 24 November 2009 (EST)
	* I can't give details, but the way the script was originally written was quite different in this spot. I like how it turned out, and I'm very curious if they are going to transpose some of the changes to another episode, or if those changes are gone forever. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 21:05, 24 November 2009 (EST)		* I can't give details, but the way the script was originally written was quite different in this spot. I like how it turned out, and I'm very curious if they are going to transpose some of the changes to another episode, or if those changes are gone forever. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 21:05, 24 November 2009 (EST)