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imported>Halfxwitted: /* Tracy's ability */

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	****** I agree with Ryan here, just think about it, in the past Tracy could only Freeze things, but now she became frozen herself. What happens when Ice melts? It becomes water. Tracy became Ice, so it's kinda logical (in a very weird absurd way) that she'd defreeze into water. After she managed to do that, it was just a matter of training for her to do it whenever she wants to. -- [[User:Smouvy\|Smouvy]] 14:00, 9 September 2009 (GMT)		****** I agree with Ryan here, just think about it, in the past Tracy could only Freeze things, but now she became frozen herself. What happens when Ice melts? It becomes water. Tracy became Ice, so it's kinda logical (in a very weird absurd way) that she'd defreeze into water. After she managed to do that, it was just a matter of training for her to do it whenever she wants to. -- [[User:Smouvy\|Smouvy]] 14:00, 9 September 2009 (GMT)
	******* Thing is, we can't really redefine what freezing means. Telepathy is broader both in name and in ability, freezing as it is can be broader as far as the ability goes, but as far as the name goes, it becomes rather inaccurate referring to melting yourself as "freezing". [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 16:37, 9 September 2009 (EDT)		******* Thing is, we can't really redefine what freezing means. Telepathy is broader both in name and in ability, freezing as it is can be broader as far as the ability goes, but as far as the name goes, it becomes rather inaccurate referring to melting yourself as "freezing". [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 16:37, 9 September 2009 (EDT)
	******* I agree with IE. Those 'canon' sources mean nothing because they were written before Tracey's Ability evolved. Besides, I'm sure those canon sources were written by Nathan or Danko; when did they become the expert on ~~what each power~~ a person manifested? They merely saw an aspect of her power and made the assumed that was the extent of it. Tracey being able to turn into and travel via ice and water is outside of the parameters of what freezing is defined as. --[[User:Halfxwitted\|Halfxwitted]] 15:15, 10 September 2009 (EDT)		******* I agree with IE. Those 'canon' sources mean nothing because they were written before Tracey's Ability evolved. Besides, I'm sure those canon sources were written by Nathan or Danko; when did they become the expert on powers a person manifested? They merely saw an aspect of her power and made the assumed that was the extent of it. Tracey being able to turn into and travel via ice and water is outside of the parameters of what freezing is defined as. --[[User:Halfxwitted\|Halfxwitted]] 15:15, 10 September 2009 (EDT)

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imported>Halfxwitted: /* Tracy's ability */

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	****** I agree with Ryan here, just think about it, in the past Tracy could only Freeze things, but now she became frozen herself. What happens when Ice melts? It becomes water. Tracy became Ice, so it's kinda logical (in a very weird absurd way) that she'd defreeze into water. After she managed to do that, it was just a matter of training for her to do it whenever she wants to. -- [[User:Smouvy\|Smouvy]] 14:00, 9 September 2009 (GMT)		****** I agree with Ryan here, just think about it, in the past Tracy could only Freeze things, but now she became frozen herself. What happens when Ice melts? It becomes water. Tracy became Ice, so it's kinda logical (in a very weird absurd way) that she'd defreeze into water. After she managed to do that, it was just a matter of training for her to do it whenever she wants to. -- [[User:Smouvy\|Smouvy]] 14:00, 9 September 2009 (GMT)
	******* Thing is, we can't really redefine what freezing means. Telepathy is broader both in name and in ability, freezing as it is can be broader as far as the ability goes, but as far as the name goes, it becomes rather inaccurate referring to melting yourself as "freezing". [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 16:37, 9 September 2009 (EDT)		******* Thing is, we can't really redefine what freezing means. Telepathy is broader both in name and in ability, freezing as it is can be broader as far as the ability goes, but as far as the name goes, it becomes rather inaccurate referring to melting yourself as "freezing". [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 16:37, 9 September 2009 (EDT)
			******* I agree with IE. Those 'canon' sources mean nothing because they were written before Tracey's Ability evolved. Besides, I'm sure those canon sources were written by Nathan or Danko; when did they become the expert on what each power a person manifested? They merely saw an aspect of her power and made the assumed that was the extent of it. Tracey being able to turn into and travel via ice and water is outside of the parameters of what freezing is defined as. --[[User:Halfxwitted\|Halfxwitted]] 15:15, 10 September 2009 (EDT)

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imported>Intuitive Empath: /* Tracy's ability */

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	***** Right, that's my point. I think there's a lot more to the ability than just being able to freeze things. Well, obviously there is! :) But in response to Ikkian, her ability has not always been water manipulation, but has always been freezing. It's just a matter of understanding the full limits of that ability. It's kind of like Matt's ability is called telepathy, though he can do so many things that traditional telepaths can't do. It's about redefining what "freezing" means, not renaming Tracy's ability. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 01:17, 9 September 2009 (EDT)		***** Right, that's my point. I think there's a lot more to the ability than just being able to freeze things. Well, obviously there is! :) But in response to Ikkian, her ability has not always been water manipulation, but has always been freezing. It's just a matter of understanding the full limits of that ability. It's kind of like Matt's ability is called telepathy, though he can do so many things that traditional telepaths can't do. It's about redefining what "freezing" means, not renaming Tracy's ability. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 01:17, 9 September 2009 (EDT)
	****** I agree with Ryan here, just think about it, in the past Tracy could only Freeze things, but now she became frozen herself. What happens when Ice melts? It becomes water. Tracy became Ice, so it's kinda logical (in a very weird absurd way) that she'd defreeze into water. After she managed to do that, it was just a matter of training for her to do it whenever she wants to. -- [[User:Smouvy\|Smouvy]] 14:00, 9 September 2009 (GMT)		****** I agree with Ryan here, just think about it, in the past Tracy could only Freeze things, but now she became frozen herself. What happens when Ice melts? It becomes water. Tracy became Ice, so it's kinda logical (in a very weird absurd way) that she'd defreeze into water. After she managed to do that, it was just a matter of training for her to do it whenever she wants to. -- [[User:Smouvy\|Smouvy]] 14:00, 9 September 2009 (GMT)
			******* Thing is, we can't really redefine what freezing means. Telepathy is broader both in name and in ability, freezing as it is can be broader as far as the ability goes, but as far as the name goes, it becomes rather inaccurate referring to melting yourself as "freezing". [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 16:37, 9 September 2009 (EDT)

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imported>Smouvy at 13:00, 9 September 2009

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	****Hold it, Ryan, that ability name come from Nathan, and both he and Tracy knew of only the "freezing" aspect of the ability (or at the very least, that what the narrative leads us to believe). The true nature of the ability and all it's limits clearly isn't just freezing anymore, though we are sill loosely bound by naming conventions to call it freezing. --{{User:SacValleyDweller/sig}} 01:06, 9 September 2009 (EDT)		****Hold it, Ryan, that ability name come from Nathan, and both he and Tracy knew of only the "freezing" aspect of the ability (or at the very least, that what the narrative leads us to believe). The true nature of the ability and all it's limits clearly isn't just freezing anymore, though we are sill loosely bound by naming conventions to call it freezing. --{{User:SacValleyDweller/sig}} 01:06, 9 September 2009 (EDT)
	***** Right, that's my point. I think there's a lot more to the ability than just being able to freeze things. Well, obviously there is! :) But in response to Ikkian, her ability has not always been water manipulation, but has always been freezing. It's just a matter of understanding the full limits of that ability. It's kind of like Matt's ability is called telepathy, though he can do so many things that traditional telepaths can't do. It's about redefining what "freezing" means, not renaming Tracy's ability. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 01:17, 9 September 2009 (EDT)		***** Right, that's my point. I think there's a lot more to the ability than just being able to freeze things. Well, obviously there is! :) But in response to Ikkian, her ability has not always been water manipulation, but has always been freezing. It's just a matter of understanding the full limits of that ability. It's kind of like Matt's ability is called telepathy, though he can do so many things that traditional telepaths can't do. It's about redefining what "freezing" means, not renaming Tracy's ability. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 01:17, 9 September 2009 (EDT)
			****** I agree with Ryan here, just think about it, in the past Tracy could only Freeze things, but now she became frozen herself. What happens when Ice melts? It becomes water. Tracy became Ice, so it's kinda logical (in a very weird absurd way) that she'd defreeze into water. After she managed to do that, it was just a matter of training for her to do it whenever she wants to. -- [[User:Smouvy\|Smouvy]] 14:00, 9 September 2009 (GMT)

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imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* Tracy's ability */

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	******Intuitive Empath got what I meant. --[[User:Ikkian\|Ikkian]] 23:03, 8 September 2009 (EDT)		******Intuitive Empath got what I meant. --[[User:Ikkian\|Ikkian]] 23:03, 8 September 2009 (EDT)
	****Hold it, Ryan, that ability name come from Nathan, and both he and Tracy knew of only the "freezing" aspect of the ability (or at the very least, that what the narrative leads us to believe). The true nature of the ability and all it's limits clearly isn't just freezing anymore, though we are sill loosely bound by naming conventions to call it freezing. --{{User:SacValleyDweller/sig}} 01:06, 9 September 2009 (EDT)		****Hold it, Ryan, that ability name come from Nathan, and both he and Tracy knew of only the "freezing" aspect of the ability (or at the very least, that what the narrative leads us to believe). The true nature of the ability and all it's limits clearly isn't just freezing anymore, though we are sill loosely bound by naming conventions to call it freezing. --{{User:SacValleyDweller/sig}} 01:06, 9 September 2009 (EDT)
			***** Right, that's my point. I think there's a lot more to the ability than just being able to freeze things. Well, obviously there is! :) But in response to Ikkian, her ability has not always been water manipulation, but has always been freezing. It's just a matter of understanding the full limits of that ability. It's kind of like Matt's ability is called telepathy, though he can do so many things that traditional telepaths can't do. It's about redefining what "freezing" means, not renaming Tracy's ability. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 01:17, 9 September 2009 (EDT)

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imported>SacValleyDweller: /* Tracy's ability */ ry to ryan

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	*****Telepathy has a much broader possibilities than illusion, it's quite an umbrella ability. For me, I think we might have to consider renaming Tracy's ability in the future, in-canon, they've called her ability "freezing" because that's the only thing she could do. I don't think they'd say she has freezing after learning what she's capable of now. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 18:59, 8 September 2009 (EDT)		*****Telepathy has a much broader possibilities than illusion, it's quite an umbrella ability. For me, I think we might have to consider renaming Tracy's ability in the future, in-canon, they've called her ability "freezing" because that's the only thing she could do. I don't think they'd say she has freezing after learning what she's capable of now. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 18:59, 8 September 2009 (EDT)
	******Intuitive Empath got what I meant. --[[User:Ikkian\|Ikkian]] 23:03, 8 September 2009 (EDT)		******Intuitive Empath got what I meant. --[[User:Ikkian\|Ikkian]] 23:03, 8 September 2009 (EDT)
			****Hold it, Ryan, that ability name come from Nathan, and both he and Tracy knew of only the "freezing" aspect of the ability (or at the very least, that what the narrative leads us to believe). The true nature of the ability and all it's limits clearly isn't just freezing anymore, though we are sill loosely bound by naming conventions to call it freezing. --{{User:SacValleyDweller/sig}} 01:06, 9 September 2009 (EDT)

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imported>Ikkian: /* Tracy's ability */

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	****I know you'll probably tell me that this belongs on a theory page but, I think lots of abilities run into each other and can develop into each other (like candice started out with illusion, matt with telepathy, matt was able to develop into illusion but candice never learned to read minds). --[[User:Mc hammark\|mc_hammark]] 15:32, 8 September 2009 (EDT)		****I know you'll probably tell me that this belongs on a theory page but, I think lots of abilities run into each other and can develop into each other (like candice started out with illusion, matt with telepathy, matt was able to develop into illusion but candice never learned to read minds). --[[User:Mc hammark\|mc_hammark]] 15:32, 8 September 2009 (EDT)
	*****Telepathy has a much broader possibilities than illusion, it's quite an umbrella ability. For me, I think we might have to consider renaming Tracy's ability in the future, in-canon, they've called her ability "freezing" because that's the only thing she could do. I don't think they'd say she has freezing after learning what she's capable of now. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 18:59, 8 September 2009 (EDT)		*****Telepathy has a much broader possibilities than illusion, it's quite an umbrella ability. For me, I think we might have to consider renaming Tracy's ability in the future, in-canon, they've called her ability "freezing" because that's the only thing she could do. I don't think they'd say she has freezing after learning what she's capable of now. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 18:59, 8 September 2009 (EDT)
			******Intuitive Empath got what I meant. --[[User:Ikkian\|Ikkian]] 23:03, 8 September 2009 (EDT)

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