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	* Back in January 2008, Jessica Collins's IMDb page listed her as being part of ''Heroes'', still, but now no longer. The [http://www.heroestelevision.com/heroes-volume-3-spoilers/ above link] lists her as being in Season Three, but it's just a regurgitation of [http://www.heroestheseries.com/jessica-collins-joins-heroes-as-the-mysterious-sophie/ news from August 2007] ([http://login.vnuemedia.com/hr/login/login_subscribe.jsp?id=qvdZ7L8TMtzmQHzJBuT%2F8TcVaaTL76%2B0%2FjJ0KihrMypxyuqXa8rKsHz6DZUJynBXgNmwzl5P%2FGkB%0AbbXY95dlEI4WVvXbCL3otiWtTKxigXH1P%2FeZtLOsJBzBCa7Ppbk0AT5ZVWQjA2YHYaPnbK4jvY%2F7%0ALFZApmfX40pC3%2FKgxD%2BuxgXVVWv%2BMA2L%2FJvDNo4SuVVAwlTfVB5uICePNkCnxgDW8FZzgteLcOHr%0A%2F4lsy8C8yCEVZx7V8AAd4S84ZuM3AW212PeXZRCOFlb12wi96LYlrUysYoFxYlo5y0T14fICi1Lk%0A%2F1Uc940lt3FDVb6KsEXVKEsH1e785JdI1WhHaV52nrUlz4pEifRwv1yYc1ErvgBFFq0%2F7Q%3D%3D]) and nothing new. In fact, that tidbit on heroestelevision was added in December 07 or January 08. I have yet to see an official source (heroestelevision is not an official source), or even a pretty reliable one, link Jessica Collins or Sophie with Season Three. If Sophie ends up being part of Season Three, excellent, no problem, we keep the page. But until we either see her on screen or see something published (not by a fan) that says Collins will be part of Season Three, this page should be marked for deletion. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 10:21, 1 September 2008 (EDT)		* Back in January 2008, Jessica Collins's IMDb page listed her as being part of ''Heroes'', still, but now no longer. The [http://www.heroestelevision.com/heroes-volume-3-spoilers/ above link] lists her as being in Season Three, but it's just a regurgitation of [http://www.heroestheseries.com/jessica-collins-joins-heroes-as-the-mysterious-sophie/ news from August 2007] ([http://login.vnuemedia.com/hr/login/login_subscribe.jsp?id=qvdZ7L8TMtzmQHzJBuT%2F8TcVaaTL76%2B0%2FjJ0KihrMypxyuqXa8rKsHz6DZUJynBXgNmwzl5P%2FGkB%0AbbXY95dlEI4WVvXbCL3otiWtTKxigXH1P%2FeZtLOsJBzBCa7Ppbk0AT5ZVWQjA2YHYaPnbK4jvY%2F7%0ALFZApmfX40pC3%2FKgxD%2BuxgXVVWv%2BMA2L%2FJvDNo4SuVVAwlTfVB5uICePNkCnxgDW8FZzgteLcOHr%0A%2F4lsy8C8yCEVZx7V8AAd4S84ZuM3AW212PeXZRCOFlb12wi96LYlrUysYoFxYlo5y0T14fICi1Lk%0A%2F1Uc940lt3FDVb6KsEXVKEsH1e785JdI1WhHaV52nrUlz4pEifRwv1yYc1ErvgBFFq0%2F7Q%3D%3D]) and nothing new. In fact, that tidbit on heroestelevision was added in December 07 or January 08. I have yet to see an official source (heroestelevision is not an official source), or even a pretty reliable one, link Jessica Collins or Sophie with Season Three. If Sophie ends up being part of Season Three, excellent, no problem, we keep the page. But until we either see her on screen or see something published (not by a fan) that says Collins will be part of Season Three, this page should be marked for deletion. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 10:21, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
	**Not only should it be marked, it should be deleted right off :) There is absolutely no valid source stating that she is a part of Season 3. If anything, I'd guess that she has been replaced [[Daphne]]. Both are posthumans working for a "mysterious organization" with ties to the posthumans and both speak French. Anyhow - '''delete'''. [[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 12:01, 14 September 2008 (EDT)		**Not only should it be marked, it should be deleted right off :) There is absolutely no valid source stating that she is a part of Season 3. If anything, I'd guess that she has been replaced [[Daphne]]. Both are posthumans working for a "mysterious organization" with ties to the posthumans and both speak French. Anyhow - '''delete'''. [[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 12:01, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
			*** I'd rather wait until we're a few episodes in to see if the character is being recycled or cut. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 13:38, 14 September 2008 (EDT)

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	* She has now been included [http://www.heroestelevision.com/heroes-volume-3-spoilers/ here (spoilers, obviously)], so I'm pretty sure the article has full merit to stay. -- [[User:Lulu\|Lulu]] 20:50, 31 December 2007 (EST)		* She has now been included [http://www.heroestelevision.com/heroes-volume-3-spoilers/ here (spoilers, obviously)], so I'm pretty sure the article has full merit to stay. -- [[User:Lulu\|Lulu]] 20:50, 31 December 2007 (EST)
	* Back in January 2008, Jessica Collins's IMDb page listed her as being part of ''Heroes'', still, but now no longer. The [http://www.heroestelevision.com/heroes-volume-3-spoilers/ above link] lists her as being in Season Three, but it's just a regurgitation of [http://www.heroestheseries.com/jessica-collins-joins-heroes-as-the-mysterious-sophie/ news from August 2007] ([http://login.vnuemedia.com/hr/login/login_subscribe.jsp?id=qvdZ7L8TMtzmQHzJBuT%2F8TcVaaTL76%2B0%2FjJ0KihrMypxyuqXa8rKsHz6DZUJynBXgNmwzl5P%2FGkB%0AbbXY95dlEI4WVvXbCL3otiWtTKxigXH1P%2FeZtLOsJBzBCa7Ppbk0AT5ZVWQjA2YHYaPnbK4jvY%2F7%0ALFZApmfX40pC3%2FKgxD%2BuxgXVVWv%2BMA2L%2FJvDNo4SuVVAwlTfVB5uICePNkCnxgDW8FZzgteLcOHr%0A%2F4lsy8C8yCEVZx7V8AAd4S84ZuM3AW212PeXZRCOFlb12wi96LYlrUysYoFxYlo5y0T14fICi1Lk%0A%2F1Uc940lt3FDVb6KsEXVKEsH1e785JdI1WhHaV52nrUlz4pEifRwv1yYc1ErvgBFFq0%2F7Q%3D%3D]) and nothing new. In fact, that tidbit on heroestelevision was added in December 07 or January 08. I have yet to see an official source (heroestelevision is not an official source), or even a pretty reliable one, link Jessica Collins or Sophie with Season Three. If Sophie ends up being part of Season Three, excellent, no problem, we keep the page. But until we either see her on screen or see something published (not by a fan) that says Collins will be part of Season Three, this page should be marked for deletion. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 10:21, 1 September 2008 (EDT)		* Back in January 2008, Jessica Collins's IMDb page listed her as being part of ''Heroes'', still, but now no longer. The [http://www.heroestelevision.com/heroes-volume-3-spoilers/ above link] lists her as being in Season Three, but it's just a regurgitation of [http://www.heroestheseries.com/jessica-collins-joins-heroes-as-the-mysterious-sophie/ news from August 2007] ([http://login.vnuemedia.com/hr/login/login_subscribe.jsp?id=qvdZ7L8TMtzmQHzJBuT%2F8TcVaaTL76%2B0%2FjJ0KihrMypxyuqXa8rKsHz6DZUJynBXgNmwzl5P%2FGkB%0AbbXY95dlEI4WVvXbCL3otiWtTKxigXH1P%2FeZtLOsJBzBCa7Ppbk0AT5ZVWQjA2YHYaPnbK4jvY%2F7%0ALFZApmfX40pC3%2FKgxD%2BuxgXVVWv%2BMA2L%2FJvDNo4SuVVAwlTfVB5uICePNkCnxgDW8FZzgteLcOHr%0A%2F4lsy8C8yCEVZx7V8AAd4S84ZuM3AW212PeXZRCOFlb12wi96LYlrUysYoFxYlo5y0T14fICi1Lk%0A%2F1Uc940lt3FDVb6KsEXVKEsH1e785JdI1WhHaV52nrUlz4pEifRwv1yYc1ErvgBFFq0%2F7Q%3D%3D]) and nothing new. In fact, that tidbit on heroestelevision was added in December 07 or January 08. I have yet to see an official source (heroestelevision is not an official source), or even a pretty reliable one, link Jessica Collins or Sophie with Season Three. If Sophie ends up being part of Season Three, excellent, no problem, we keep the page. But until we either see her on screen or see something published (not by a fan) that says Collins will be part of Season Three, this page should be marked for deletion. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 10:21, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
			**Not only should it be marked, it should be deleted right off :) There is absolutely no valid source stating that she is a part of Season 3. If anything, I'd guess that she has been replaced [[Daphne]]. Both are posthumans working for a "mysterious organization" with ties to the posthumans and both speak French. Anyhow - '''delete'''. [[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 12:01, 14 September 2008 (EDT)

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	****OK, OK, here me out. If you google "Jessica Collins Heroes", virtually all the relevant hits either directly quote ''The Hollywood Reporter'' or state it as their source. Not even IMDb has her her listed, and they usually have credits up the moment there's news of a casting. If this character still exists, we certaintly would have more about her. --{{User:Heroe/sig}} 01:48, 22 December 2007 (EST)		****OK, OK, here me out. If you google "Jessica Collins Heroes", virtually all the relevant hits either directly quote ''The Hollywood Reporter'' or state it as their source. Not even IMDb has her her listed, and they usually have credits up the moment there's news of a casting. If this character still exists, we certaintly would have more about her. --{{User:Heroe/sig}} 01:48, 22 December 2007 (EST)
	*****I'm very much hearing you out, Heroe, and I understand your concern. Just because there is very little about the character or the role on the web does not mean it doesn't exist. The same thing happens when you Google "Richard Schiff Heroes" (both of which are the top automatic Google searches in my Google search bar.) And actually, she was listed on IMDb for about three weeks in the credits for ''[[Four Months Later...]]'', and then was removed because, well, she wasn't actually in that episode....I'm not saying the character will definitely show up, but I'm saying we have no basis for deleting her. Removing a character who was announced in a reputable source simply because we can't find more information on her--especially in light of the mercurial situation of the show due to the writers strike--seems like a silly move to make. I'd much rather wait until 1) the writers strike is over, 2) we find out what's going on with Volume Three, 3) we receive word that she's not going to make an appearance. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:53, 22 December 2007 (EST)		*****I'm very much hearing you out, Heroe, and I understand your concern. Just because there is very little about the character or the role on the web does not mean it doesn't exist. The same thing happens when you Google "Richard Schiff Heroes" (both of which are the top automatic Google searches in my Google search bar.) And actually, she was listed on IMDb for about three weeks in the credits for ''[[Four Months Later...]]'', and then was removed because, well, she wasn't actually in that episode....I'm not saying the character will definitely show up, but I'm saying we have no basis for deleting her. Removing a character who was announced in a reputable source simply because we can't find more information on her--especially in light of the mercurial situation of the show due to the writers strike--seems like a silly move to make. I'd much rather wait until 1) the writers strike is over, 2) we find out what's going on with Volume Three, 3) we receive word that she's not going to make an appearance. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:53, 22 December 2007 (EST)
	* She has now been included [http://www.heroestelevision.com/heroes-volume-3-spoilers/ here (spoilers, obviously)], so I'm pretty sure the article has full merit to stay.		* She has now been included [http://www.heroestelevision.com/heroes-volume-3-spoilers/ here (spoilers, obviously)], so I'm pretty sure the article has full merit to stay. -- [[User:Lulu\|Lulu]] 20:50, 31 December 2007 (EST)
			* Back in January 2008, Jessica Collins's IMDb page listed her as being part of ''Heroes'', still, but now no longer. The [http://www.heroestelevision.com/heroes-volume-3-spoilers/ above link] lists her as being in Season Three, but it's just a regurgitation of [http://www.heroestheseries.com/jessica-collins-joins-heroes-as-the-mysterious-sophie/ news from August 2007] ([http://login.vnuemedia.com/hr/login/login_subscribe.jsp?id=qvdZ7L8TMtzmQHzJBuT%2F8TcVaaTL76%2B0%2FjJ0KihrMypxyuqXa8rKsHz6DZUJynBXgNmwzl5P%2FGkB%0AbbXY95dlEI4WVvXbCL3otiWtTKxigXH1P%2FeZtLOsJBzBCa7Ppbk0AT5ZVWQjA2YHYaPnbK4jvY%2F7%0ALFZApmfX40pC3%2FKgxD%2BuxgXVVWv%2BMA2L%2FJvDNo4SuVVAwlTfVB5uICePNkCnxgDW8FZzgteLcOHr%0A%2F4lsy8C8yCEVZx7V8AAd4S84ZuM3AW212PeXZRCOFlb12wi96LYlrUysYoFxYlo5y0T14fICi1Lk%0A%2F1Uc940lt3FDVb6KsEXVKEsH1e785JdI1WhHaV52nrUlz4pEifRwv1yYc1ErvgBFFq0%2F7Q%3D%3D]) and nothing new. In fact, that tidbit on heroestelevision was added in December 07 or January 08. I have yet to see an official source (heroestelevision is not an official source), or even a pretty reliable one, link Jessica Collins or Sophie with Season Three. If Sophie ends up being part of Season Three, excellent, no problem, we keep the page. But until we either see her on screen or see something published (not by a fan) that says Collins will be part of Season Three, this page should be marked for deletion. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 10:21, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

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	* I think ability sensing would be a very interesting power on the show. Maybe Charles has it. [[User:Jason Garrick\|Jason Garrick]] 16:18, 3 January 2008 (EST)		* I think ability sensing would be a very interesting power on the show. Maybe Charles has it. [[User:Jason Garrick\|Jason Garrick]] 16:18, 3 January 2008 (EST)
	* That would be an interesting power; I wonder how it would work. {{User:Seclusion/sig}} 18:04, 3 January 2008 (EST)		* That would be an interesting power; I wonder how it would work. {{User:Seclusion/sig}} 18:04, 3 January 2008 (EST)
	* So is she like an older version of Molly or are her powers differnt{{User:bobert}}		* So is she like an older version of Molly or are her powers differnt [[User:bobert\|bobert]] 22:44, 9 January 2008 (EST)

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	* I think ability sensing would be a very interesting power on the show. Maybe Charles has it. [[User:Jason Garrick\|Jason Garrick]] 16:18, 3 January 2008 (EST)		* I think ability sensing would be a very interesting power on the show. Maybe Charles has it. [[User:Jason Garrick\|Jason Garrick]] 16:18, 3 January 2008 (EST)
	* That would be an interesting power; I wonder how it would work. {{User:Seclusion/sig}} 18:04, 3 January 2008 (EST)		* That would be an interesting power; I wonder how it would work. {{User:Seclusion/sig}} 18:04, 3 January 2008 (EST)
	* So is she like an older version of Molly or are her powers differnt{{User:bobert~~/boert~~}}		* So is she like an older version of Molly or are her powers differnt{{User:bobert}}

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	* I think ability sensing would be a very interesting power on the show. Maybe Charles has it. [[User:Jason Garrick\|Jason Garrick]] 16:18, 3 January 2008 (EST)		* I think ability sensing would be a very interesting power on the show. Maybe Charles has it. [[User:Jason Garrick\|Jason Garrick]] 16:18, 3 January 2008 (EST)
	* That would be an interesting power; I wonder how it would work. {{User:Seclusion/sig}} 18:04, 3 January 2008 (EST)		* That would be an interesting power; I wonder how it would work. {{User:Seclusion/sig}} 18:04, 3 January 2008 (EST)
			* So is she like an older version of Molly or are her powers differnt{{User:bobert/boert}}

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	* Or ability sensing. --{{User:Heroe/sig}} 16:14, 3 January 2008 (EST)		* Or ability sensing. --{{User:Heroe/sig}} 16:14, 3 January 2008 (EST)
	* I think ability sensing would be a very interesting power on the show. Maybe Charles has it. [[User:Jason Garrick\|Jason Garrick]] 16:18, 3 January 2008 (EST)		* I think ability sensing would be a very interesting power on the show. Maybe Charles has it. [[User:Jason Garrick\|Jason Garrick]] 16:18, 3 January 2008 (EST)
			* That would be an interesting power; I wonder how it would work. {{User:Seclusion/sig}} 18:04, 3 January 2008 (EST)

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	"Tracking" all evolved humans sounds like [[Clairvoyance]]. --{{User:Seclusion/sig}}		"Tracking" all evolved humans sounds like [[Clairvoyance]]. --{{User:Seclusion/sig}}
	* Or ability sensing. --{{User:Heroe/sig}} 16:14, 3 January 2008 (EST)		* Or ability sensing. --{{User:Heroe/sig}} 16:14, 3 January 2008 (EST)
			* I think ability sensing would be a very interesting power on the show. Maybe Charles has it. [[User:Jason Garrick\|Jason Garrick]] 16:18, 3 January 2008 (EST)

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	We haven't heard about Sophie for a long time. I think she could just be Elle....--{{User:Heroe/sig}} 19:55, 16 October 2007 (EDT)		We haven't heard about Sophie for a long time. I think she could just be Elle....--{{User:Heroe/sig}} 19:55, 16 October 2007 (EDT)
	* I think she'll probably end up being the young version of [[:Image:Unnamed woman 1.jpg\|this woman]]. [[Jessica Collins]] looks enough like Joanna Cassidy to fit the [[Image talk:Unnamed woman 1.jpg\|casting call]].--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 20:19, 16 October 2007 (EDT)		* I think she'll probably end up being the young version of [[:Image:Unnamed woman 1.jpg\|this woman]]. Jessica Collins looks enough like Joanna Cassidy to fit the [[Image talk:Unnamed woman 1.jpg\|casting call]].--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 20:19, 16 October 2007 (EDT)
	** Guess not... --[[User:Thrashmeister\|Thrashmeister]] 17:40, 5 December 2007 (EST)		** Guess not... --[[User:Thrashmeister\|Thrashmeister]] 17:40, 5 December 2007 (EST)

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	There's only been two spoilers, none of them from NBC (and one's from Kristin Veitch), about Sophie, and both of them seem to refer to [[Elle]]. This article should go. --{{User:Heroe/sig}} 22:25, 16 December 2007 (EST)		There's only been two spoilers, none of them from NBC (and one's from Kristin Veitch), about Sophie, and both of them seem to refer to [[Elle]]. This article should go. --{{User:Heroe/sig}} 22:25, 16 December 2007 (EST)
	*Though you very well may be correct, I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that those spoilers are about Elle. ''The Hollywood Reporter'' is quite reputable, and I'm curious to see if [[Jessica Collins]] will appear in the next pod of episodes. Whether the spoilers were misdirected, the casting changed, or she simply hasn't appeared yet, I'd wait to delete anything. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:50, 16 December 2007 (EST)		*Though you very well may be correct, I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that those spoilers are about Elle. ''The Hollywood Reporter'' is quite reputable, and I'm curious to see if Jessica Collins will appear in the next pod of episodes. Whether the spoilers were misdirected, the casting changed, or she simply hasn't appeared yet, I'd wait to delete anything. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:50, 16 December 2007 (EST)
	*And even if season 2 is cut short her character would be moved to "season" 3. So I don't think this should be deleted. Should we take away the delete box? [[User:Jason Garrick\|Jason Garrick]] 15:38, 21 December 2007 (EST)		*And even if season 2 is cut short her character would be moved to "season" 3. So I don't think this should be deleted. Should we take away the delete box? [[User:Jason Garrick\|Jason Garrick]] 15:38, 21 December 2007 (EST)
	**I would. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 21:56, 21 December 2007 (EST)		**I would. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 21:56, 21 December 2007 (EST)
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	*Am I allowed to make a theory page about a spoiler like Sophie. Because I think she is the "bride" Adam was talking about. [[User:Jason Garrick\|Jason Garrick]] 15:31, 1 January 2008 (EST)		*Am I allowed to make a theory page about a spoiler like Sophie. Because I think she is the "bride" Adam was talking about. [[User:Jason Garrick\|Jason Garrick]] 15:31, 1 January 2008 (EST)
	** The theories about a spoiler would go on the spoiler page itself. In other words, we shouldn't make "Theory:Sophie" since spoilers don't belong in the theory namespace. What you should do instead is add a "Fan Theories" section at the bottom of [[Spoiler:Sophie]]. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 19:06, 1 January 2008 (EST)		** The theories about a spoiler would go on the spoiler page itself. In other words, we shouldn't make "Theory:Sophie" since spoilers don't belong in the theory namespace. What you should do instead is add a "Fan Theories" section at the bottom of Spoiler:Sophie. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 19:06, 1 January 2008 (EST)
	*** For what it's worth, when I read the article I had the same thoughts as you, Jason.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 23:47, 1 January 2008 (EST)		*** For what it's worth, when I read the article I had the same thoughts as you, Jason.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 23:47, 1 January 2008 (EST)
	****Ooooohh okay, thanks Ryan. lol Miami, I know! The thought went straight into my head. [[User:Jason Garrick\|Jason Garrick]] 16:11, 3 January 2008 (EST)		****Ooooohh okay, thanks Ryan. lol Miami, I know! The thought went straight into my head. [[User:Jason Garrick\|Jason Garrick]] 16:11, 3 January 2008 (EST)