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	{{power names\|2\|The [[Create Your Hero]] description for [[Santiago]] explicitly states that he has the power of accelerated probability}}		{{power names\|2\|The [[Create Your Hero]] description for [[Santiago]] explicitly states that he has the power of accelerated probability}}
			''For an archived discussion about Edward's ability, see [[Talk:Edward's ability]].''
	== Accelerated probability? ==		== Accelerated probability? ==

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	I been watching this part the show over and over. In the scene he tells the agent that "We've always have choices" just before he creates a ball of "electrical" energy and shoots her with it. What I think he is doing is that he is showing her all the choices she could have made instead of the one she did. I think its possible that with enough practice someone with Accelerated Probablity can eventually allow someone else to view their own choices and the "Electrical" energy is the effect showing them using that part of the ability onto someone else. I think he may have over loaded her brain by making her see every choice she could have made and its outcome. Which is why she had smoke coming from her and why she fell to the ground. I don't think this part of the ability is lethal though since it the cameraa shows her opening her eyes just before the show ended but I do think it can be exhausting on the person though since their not equip to handle a power like that. [[User:Shelby9291\|Shelby9291]] ([[User talk:Shelby9291\|talk]]) 19:59, 12 May 2014 (EDT)		I been watching this part the show over and over. In the scene he tells the agent that "We've always have choices" just before he creates a ball of "electrical" energy and shoots her with it. What I think he is doing is that he is showing her all the choices she could have made instead of the one she did. I think its possible that with enough practice someone with Accelerated Probablity can eventually allow someone else to view their own choices and the "Electrical" energy is the effect showing them using that part of the ability onto someone else. I think he may have over loaded her brain by making her see every choice she could have made and its outcome. Which is why she had smoke coming from her and why she fell to the ground. I don't think this part of the ability is lethal though since it the cameraa shows her opening her eyes just before the show ended but I do think it can be exhausting on the person though since their not equip to handle a power like that. [[User:Shelby9291\|Shelby9291]] ([[User talk:Shelby9291\|talk]]) 19:59, 12 May 2014 (EDT)
			* Hmm. Interesting theory! :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 00:42, 14 May 2014 (EDT)

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	== edward's ability ==		== edward's ability ==

	I been watching this part the show over and over. In the scene he tells the agent that "We've always have choices" just before he creates a ball of "electrical" energy and shoots her with it. What I think he is doing is that he is showing her all the choices she could have made instead of the one she did. I think its possible that with enough practice someone with Accelerated Probablity can eventually allow someone else to view their own choices and the "Electrical" energy is the effect showing them using that part of the ability onto someone else. I think he may have over loaded her brain by making her see every choice she could have made and its outcome. Which is why she had smoke coming from her and why she fell to the ground. I don't think this part of the ability is lethal though since it the cameraa shows her opening her eyes just before the show ended but I do think it can be exhausting on the person though since their not equip to handle a power like that. [[User:Shelby9291\|Shelby9291]] ([[User talk:Shelby9291\|talk]]) 19:59, 12 May 2014 (EDT)		I been watching this part the show over and over. In the scene he tells the agent that "We've always have choices" just before he creates a ball of "electrical" energy and shoots her with it. What I think he is doing is that he is showing her all the choices she could have made instead of the one she did. I think its possible that with enough practice someone with Accelerated Probablity can eventually allow someone else to view their own choices and the "Electrical" energy is the effect showing them using that part of the ability onto someone else. I think he may have over loaded her brain by making her see every choice she could have made and its outcome. Which is why she had smoke coming from her and why she fell to the ground. I don't think this part of the ability is lethal though since it the cameraa shows her opening her eyes just before the show ended but I do think it can be exhausting on the person though since their not equip to handle a power like that. [[User:Shelby9291\|Shelby9291]] ([[User talk:Shelby9291\|talk]]) 19:59, 12 May 2014 (EDT)

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	== edward's ability ==		== edward's ability ==

	I been watching this part the show over and over. In the scene he tells the agent that "We've always have choices" just before he creates a ball of "electrical" energy and shoots her with it. What I think he is doing is that he is showing her all the choices she could have made instead of the one she did. I think its possible that with enough practice someone with Accelerated Probablity can eventually allow someone else to view their own choices and the "Electrical" energy is the effect showing them using that part of the ability onto someone else. I think he may have over loaded her brain by making her see every choice she could have made and its outcome. Which is why she had smoke coming from her and why she fell to the ground. I don't think this part of the ability is lethal though since it the cameraa shows her opening her eyes just before the show ended but I do think it can be exhausting on the person though since their not equip to handle a power like that.		I been watching this part the show over and over. In the scene he tells the agent that "We've always have choices" just before he creates a ball of "electrical" energy and shoots her with it. What I think he is doing is that he is showing her all the choices she could have made instead of the one she did. I think its possible that with enough practice someone with Accelerated Probablity can eventually allow someone else to view their own choices and the "Electrical" energy is the effect showing them using that part of the ability onto someone else. I think he may have over loaded her brain by making her see every choice she could have made and its outcome. Which is why she had smoke coming from her and why she fell to the ground. I don't think this part of the ability is lethal though since it the cameraa shows her opening her eyes just before the show ended but I do think it can be exhausting on the person though since their not equip to handle a power like that. [[User:Shelby9291\|Shelby9291]] ([[User talk:Shelby9291\|talk]]) 19:59, 12 May 2014 (EDT)

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	==I Think I've Got It==		==I Think I've Got It==
	Humans naturally have a small amount of electric charge, especially at the fingertips. And this ability enables the user to accelerate themselves along the path that would lead to a maximized outcome. So what Edward might have done was simply calculate the best way to incapacitate the serious-looking woman, and determined that the most efficient mode of offense would be to build up the natural static charge in his body to the point where it could be used as an attack. Impossible for normal humans, of course, but with his ability to accelerate himself to the calculated outcome instantly, he just might be able to do that.--[[User:ERROR\|ERROR]] 22:13, 1 October 2011 (EDT)		Humans naturally have a small amount of electric charge, especially at the fingertips. And this ability enables the user to accelerate themselves along the path that would lead to a maximized outcome. So what Edward might have done was simply calculate the best way to incapacitate the serious-looking woman, and determined that the most efficient mode of offense would be to build up the natural static charge in his body to the point where it could be used as an attack. Impossible for normal humans, of course, but with his ability to accelerate himself to the calculated outcome instantly, he just might be able to do that.--[[User:ERROR\|ERROR]] 22:13, 1 October 2011 (EDT)

			== edward's ability ==

			I been watching this part the show over and over. In the scene he tells the agent that "We've always have choices" just before he creates a ball of "electrical" energy and shoots her with it. What I think he is doing is that he is showing her all the choices she could have made instead of the one she did. I think its possible that with enough practice someone with Accelerated Probablity can eventually allow someone else to view their own choices and the "Electrical" energy is the effect showing them using that part of the ability onto someone else. I think he may have over loaded her brain by making her see every choice she could have made and its outcome. Which is why she had smoke coming from her and why she fell to the ground. I don't think this part of the ability is lethal though since it the cameraa shows her opening her eyes just before the show ended but I do think it can be exhausting on the person though since their not equip to handle a power like that.

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	To me, that sounds like the most likely theory.--[[User:ERROR\|ERROR]] 11:54, 27 September 2011 (EDT)		To me, that sounds like the most likely theory.--[[User:ERROR\|ERROR]] 11:54, 27 September 2011 (EDT)

			==I Think I've Got It==
			Humans naturally have a small amount of electric charge, especially at the fingertips. And this ability enables the user to accelerate themselves along the path that would lead to a maximized outcome. So what Edward might have done was simply calculate the best way to incapacitate the serious-looking woman, and determined that the most efficient mode of offense would be to build up the natural static charge in his body to the point where it could be used as an attack. Impossible for normal humans, of course, but with his ability to accelerate himself to the calculated outcome instantly, he just might be able to do that.--[[User:ERROR\|ERROR]] 22:13, 1 October 2011 (EDT)

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	In ''[[Destiny, Part 3]]'', the serious looking woman tells Santiago he inherited his gift from his father. I think Santiago's father should be listed as sharing the ability... if you inherit something from someone, it means it was also theirs. The woman doesn't say he inherited a gene, she says "gift" and to me that means Santiago's dad had the same gift Santiago has. In addition, the serious looking woman explains the attributes of Santiago's ability in detail and claims she knows of Santiago's abilities because his father worked for her organization as an assassin and they just followed the laws of genetic probabilities. It is also noted that his father's ability allowed his father to always get his mark.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 23:56, 27 November 2008 (EST)		In ''[[Destiny, Part 3]]'', the serious looking woman tells Santiago he inherited his gift from his father. I think Santiago's father should be listed as sharing the ability... if you inherit something from someone, it means it was also theirs. The woman doesn't say he inherited a gene, she says "gift" and to me that means Santiago's dad had the same gift Santiago has. In addition, the serious looking woman explains the attributes of Santiago's ability in detail and claims she knows of Santiago's abilities because his father worked for her organization as an assassin and they just followed the laws of genetic probabilities. It is also noted that his father's ability allowed his father to always get his mark.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 23:56, 27 November 2008 (EST)

		⚫	She described his ability in detail? Shouldn't this be mentioned in the article somewhere, maybe in memorable quotes?--[[User:ERROR\|ERROR]] 16:47, 17 June 2009 (EDT)
	Heh, maybe they used Edward to see those genetic probabilities. Heh.

⚫	She described his ability in detail? Shouldn't this be mentioned in the article, maybe in memorable quotes?--[[User:ERROR\|ERROR]] 16:47, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

	== Enlightning me ==		== Enlightning me ==
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	I know it's been rehashed a thousand times and it doesn't look like they'll ever revisit this power, but it seems to me like the assumption that what he's doing is creating an electrical arc or ball lightning might not necessarily be right, and that the force he generated was more likely "probabilistic forces" or whatnot. Because the power is based on assessing probability, perhaps it makes sense that a well-trained user could affect probability instead of just observing its possible outcomes. Until we know from a cannon source (again, I doubt this power will be seen again in cannon, so that's not too likely,) I think it's more of a leap to think Edward somehow can affect electrical currents, and that maybe we should take some of the electrocution-based language out of the article until we know for sure what he's doing. To me, it looks like he could be just making improbable biological effects happen in the serious looking woman's body, and this manifests itself as an involuntary bodily paralysis: basically he makes her natural metabolic processes go haywire and not work right. Just like someone like Black Cat in comics could make a seemingly-sturdy construction collapse with her "bad luck" powers, so too can Edward make a seemingly healthy person fall into semi-catatonia, and the electricity we saw was just the random probability power FX. I'm not saying that's what the writers were thinking when they did it, I'm just saying it makes the most sense, and until we know for sure we shouldn't assume one way or another. ~~		I know it's been rehashed a thousand times and it doesn't look like they'll ever revisit this power, but it seems to me like the assumption that what he's doing is creating an electrical arc or ball lightning might not necessarily be right, and that the force he generated was more likely "probabilistic forces" or whatnot. Because the power is based on assessing probability, perhaps it makes sense that a well-trained user could affect probability instead of just observing its possible outcomes. Until we know from a cannon source (again, I doubt this power will be seen again in cannon, so that's not too likely,) I think it's more of a leap to think Edward somehow can affect electrical currents, and that maybe we should take some of the electrocution-based language out of the article until we know for sure what he's doing. To me, it looks like he could be just making improbable biological effects happen in the serious looking woman's body, and this manifests itself as an involuntary bodily paralysis: basically he makes her natural metabolic processes go haywire and not work right. Just like someone like Black Cat in comics could make a seemingly-sturdy construction collapse with her "bad luck" powers, so too can Edward make a seemingly healthy person fall into semi-catatonia, and the electricity we saw was just the random probability power FX. I'm not saying that's what the writers were thinking when they did it, I'm just saying it makes the most sense, and until we know for sure we shouldn't assume one way or another. ~~

	~~Nice~~ ~~theory~~, ~~mystery~~ ~~poster~~.--[[User:ERROR\|ERROR]] 16:45, 17 ~~June~~ ~~2009~~ (EDT)		To me, that sounds like the most likely theory.--[[User:ERROR\|ERROR]] 11:54, 27 September 2011 (EDT)

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	* I guess he could dodge bullets with easy. [[User:Dave\|Dave]] 18:20, 27 November 2008		* I guess he could dodge bullets with easy. [[User:Dave\|Dave]] 18:20, 27 November 2008

	==Inheritance from Santiago's ~~father~~==		==Inheritance from Santiago's Father==
	In ''[[Destiny, Part 3]]'', the serious looking woman tells Santiago he inherited his gift from his father. I think Santiago's father should be listed as sharing the ability... if you inherit something from someone, it means it was also theirs. The woman doesn't say he inherited a gene, she says "gift" and to me that means Santiago's dad had the same gift Santiago has. In addition, the serious looking woman explains the attributes of Santiago's ability in detail and claims she knows of Santiago's abilities because his father worked for her organization as an assassin and they just followed the laws of genetic probabilities. It is also noted that his father's ability allowed his father to always get his mark.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 23:56, 27 November 2008 (EST)		In ''[[Destiny, Part 3]]'', the serious looking woman tells Santiago he inherited his gift from his father. I think Santiago's father should be listed as sharing the ability... if you inherit something from someone, it means it was also theirs. The woman doesn't say he inherited a gene, she says "gift" and to me that means Santiago's dad had the same gift Santiago has. In addition, the serious looking woman explains the attributes of Santiago's ability in detail and claims she knows of Santiago's abilities because his father worked for her organization as an assassin and they just followed the laws of genetic probabilities. It is also noted that his father's ability allowed his father to always get his mark.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 23:56, 27 November 2008 (EST)

			Heh, maybe they used Edward to see those genetic probabilities. Heh.

			She described his ability in detail? Shouldn't this be mentioned in the article, maybe in memorable quotes?--[[User:ERROR\|ERROR]] 16:47, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

	== Enlightning me ==		== Enlightning me ==

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	I know it's been rehashed a thousand times and it doesn't look like they'll ever revisit this power, but it seems to me like the assumption that what he's doing is creating an electrical arc or ball lightning might not necessarily be right, and that the force he generated was more likely "probabilistic forces" or whatnot. Because the power is based on assessing probability, perhaps it makes sense that a well-trained user could affect probability instead of just observing its possible outcomes. Until we know from a cannon source (again, I doubt this power will be seen again in cannon, so that's not too likely,) I think it's more of a leap to think Edward somehow can affect electrical currents, and that maybe we should take some of the electrocution-based language out of the article until we know for sure what he's doing. To me, it looks like he could be just making improbable biological effects happen in the serious looking woman's body, and this manifests itself as an involuntary bodily paralysis: basically he makes her natural metabolic processes go haywire and not work right. Just like someone like Black Cat in comics could make a seemingly-sturdy construction collapse with her "bad luck" powers, so too can Edward make a seemingly healthy person fall into semi-catatonia, and the electricity we saw was just the random probability power FX. I'm not saying that's what the writers were thinking when they did it, I'm just saying it makes the most sense, and until we know for sure we shouldn't assume one way or another. ~~		I know it's been rehashed a thousand times and it doesn't look like they'll ever revisit this power, but it seems to me like the assumption that what he's doing is creating an electrical arc or ball lightning might not necessarily be right, and that the force he generated was more likely "probabilistic forces" or whatnot. Because the power is based on assessing probability, perhaps it makes sense that a well-trained user could affect probability instead of just observing its possible outcomes. Until we know from a cannon source (again, I doubt this power will be seen again in cannon, so that's not too likely,) I think it's more of a leap to think Edward somehow can affect electrical currents, and that maybe we should take some of the electrocution-based language out of the article until we know for sure what he's doing. To me, it looks like he could be just making improbable biological effects happen in the serious looking woman's body, and this manifests itself as an involuntary bodily paralysis: basically he makes her natural metabolic processes go haywire and not work right. Just like someone like Black Cat in comics could make a seemingly-sturdy construction collapse with her "bad luck" powers, so too can Edward make a seemingly healthy person fall into semi-catatonia, and the electricity we saw was just the random probability power FX. I'm not saying that's what the writers were thinking when they did it, I'm just saying it makes the most sense, and until we know for sure we shouldn't assume one way or another. ~~

			Nice theory, mystery poster.--[[User:ERROR\|ERROR]] 16:45, 17 June 2009 (EDT)