Talk:Agent 1 - Revision history

imported>Radicell: /* Dead */ new section

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	******* ...and so on... so much for that policy, I guess :) [[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 15:32, 29 July 2008 (EDT)		******* ...and so on... so much for that policy, I guess :) [[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 15:32, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

			== Dead ==

			Shouldn't we list this guy as dead (and Agent 2)? In the ''[[Graphic Novel:Going Postal\|Going Postal]]'' graphic novel, Echo says that "they surrounded me in my home. I had no choice but to fight back. I survived the falling debris by pure luck. They didn't." --[[User:Radicell\|Radicell]] 08:53, 10 January 2009 (EST)

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	I know that "Agent 1" is what this character officially has been called, but I'm not sure about us using the name; it's far too general. Plus - we have been known to change names to be more specific before. I'm thinking [[First agent (Echo's home)]], with [[Agent 2]] becoming [[Second agent (Echo's home)]]. If anyone can come up with shorter names, no one is happier than me though :) But, most important: [[Agent 1]] is really too general. [[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 10:21, 29 July 2008 (EDT)		I know that "Agent 1" is what this character officially has been called, but I'm not sure about us using the name; it's far too general. Plus - we have been known to change names to be more specific before. I'm thinking {{nowantedlink\|First agent (Echo's home)\|red=true}}, with [[Agent 2]] becoming {{nowantedlink\|Second agent (Echo's home)\|red=true}}. If anyone can come up with shorter names, no one is happier than me though :) But, most important: [[Agent 1]] is really too general. [[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 10:21, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
	* Heh. We get all sorts of names from the credits. I think we should keep these since they are official. However, I wouldn't mind a redirect from the names you've suggested.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 10:32, 29 July 2008 (EDT)		* Heh. We get all sorts of names from the credits. I think we should keep these since they are official. However, I wouldn't mind a redirect from the names you've suggested.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 10:32, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
	** I'd rather we redirected [[Agent 1]] to [[First agent (Echo's home)]], there are no consensus on the matter, but most names of article dealing with non-specific named characters have been changed in order to match our standards. Unless there are some indications that [[Agent 1]] is an actual title, I can't see why this would go for this character as well...?[[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 14:28, 29 July 2008 (EDT)		** I'd rather we redirected [[Agent 1]] to {{nowantedlink\|First agent (Echo's home)\|red=true}}, there are no consensus on the matter, but most names of article dealing with non-specific named characters have been changed in order to match our standards. Unless there are some indications that [[Agent 1]] is an actual title, I can't see why this would go for this character as well...?[[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 14:28, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
	*** NBC calls the character "Agent 1" both in the credits and in the character reference. If someone comes here looking for an article about the character, I think they'll be looking for "Agent 1".--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:53, 29 July 2008 (EDT)		*** NBC calls the character "Agent 1" both in the credits and in the character reference. If someone comes here looking for an article about the character, I think they'll be looking for "Agent 1".--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:53, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
	**** That's what the redirection is for :) On the other hand - if someone who '''havn't''' seen the webisodes enters the article, the name will most certainly confuse her/him. "Agent 1" sounds like a title, as if he is the most prior agent.		**** That's what the redirection is for :) On the other hand - if someone who '''havn't''' seen the webisodes enters the article, the name will most certainly confuse her/him. "Agent 1" sounds like a title, as if he is the most prior agent.
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	***** I thought the policy was to use the credits, when available... see [[Talk:Jumpsuit#Rename to Jumpsuit??]] for a similar discussion. We use our format when the credits don't specifically name the character, but this is not such a case. If the credits said: Other agents played by James Ryen and so-and-so, like is sometimes done, then we would have freedom to name in our format. I don't see that freedom here.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 15:16, 29 July 2008 (EDT)		***** I thought the policy was to use the credits, when available... see [[Talk:Jumpsuit#Rename to Jumpsuit??]] for a similar discussion. We use our format when the credits don't specifically name the character, but this is not such a case. If the credits said: Other agents played by James Ryen and so-and-so, like is sometimes done, then we would have freedom to name in our format. I don't see that freedom here.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 15:16, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
	****** Oh - nice link - havn't seen that one! I was going by the actual article names. After a random (and by no means complete) look through the characters article there are several names that have been changed from their original credit:		****** Oh - nice link - havn't seen that one! I was going by the actual article names. After a random (and by no means complete) look through the characters article there are several names that have been changed from their original credit:
	****** *[[Chandra's super]]		******[[Chandra's super]]
	****** *[[Convenience store robber]]		******[[Convenience store robber]]
	****** *[[Corinthian security guard]]		******[[Corinthian security guard]]
	****** *[[Diamond merchant]]		******[[Diamond merchant]]
	****** *[[Emergency room doctor]]		******[[Emergency room doctor]]
	****** *[[Airport security agent]]		******[[Airport security agent]]
	****** *[[Burnt Toast Diner waitress]]		******[[Burnt Toast Diner waitress]]
	****** *[[Gun seller]]		******[[Gun seller]]
	****** *[[Heidi's surgeon]]		******[[Heidi's surgeon]]
	****** *[[Highway 12 patrolman]]		******[[Highway 12 patrolman]]
	****** *[[Hotspur employee]]		******[[Hotspur employee]]
	****** *[[Jackie's friend]]		******[[Jackie's friend]]
	****** *[[Lady with a purse]]		******[[Lady with a purse]]
	****** *[[Linderman's curator]]		******[[Linderman's curator]]
	****** ...and so on... so much for that policy, I guess :) [[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 15:32, 29 July 2008 (EDT)		******* ...and so on... so much for that policy, I guess :) [[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 15:32, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

imported>Pierre: /* Name */

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	**** Once again - if the policy was to name the character articles after their credit names - I would definitely agree with you. However since the current policy is to modify the names Heroes Wiki mode, I don't see any reason why this article should be an exception...? [[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 15:00, 29 July 2008 (EDT)		**** Once again - if the policy was to name the character articles after their credit names - I would definitely agree with you. However since the current policy is to modify the names Heroes Wiki mode, I don't see any reason why this article should be an exception...? [[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 15:00, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
	***** I thought the policy was to use the credits, when available... see [[Talk:Jumpsuit#Rename to Jumpsuit??]] for a similar discussion. We use our format when the credits don't specifically name the character, but this is not such a case. If the credits said: Other agents played by James Ryen and so-and-so, like is sometimes done, then we would have freedom to name in our format. I don't see that freedom here.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 15:16, 29 July 2008 (EDT)		***** I thought the policy was to use the credits, when available... see [[Talk:Jumpsuit#Rename to Jumpsuit??]] for a similar discussion. We use our format when the credits don't specifically name the character, but this is not such a case. If the credits said: Other agents played by James Ryen and so-and-so, like is sometimes done, then we would have freedom to name in our format. I don't see that freedom here.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 15:16, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
			****** Oh - nice link - havn't seen that one! I was going by the actual article names. After a random (and by no means complete) look through the characters article there are several names that have been changed from their original credit:
			****** *[[Chandra's super]]
			****** *[[Convenience store robber]]
			****** *[[Corinthian security guard]]
			****** *[[Diamond merchant]]
			****** *[[Emergency room doctor]]
			****** *[[Airport security agent]]
			****** *[[Burnt Toast Diner waitress]]
			****** *[[Gun seller]]
			****** *[[Heidi's surgeon]]
			****** *[[Highway 12 patrolman]]
			****** *[[Hotspur employee]]
			****** *[[Jackie's friend]]
			****** *[[Lady with a purse]]
			****** *[[Linderman's curator]]
			****** ...and so on... so much for that policy, I guess :) [[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 15:32, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

imported>MiamiVolts: /* Name */ reply with old discussion pointer

2008-07-29T19:16:00Z

Name: reply with old discussion pointer

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	**** That's what the redirection is for :) On the other hand - if someone who '''havn't''' seen the webisodes enters the article, the name will most certainly confuse her/him. "Agent 1" sounds like a title, as if he is the most prior agent.		**** That's what the redirection is for :) On the other hand - if someone who '''havn't''' seen the webisodes enters the article, the name will most certainly confuse her/him. "Agent 1" sounds like a title, as if he is the most prior agent.
	**** Once again - if the policy was to name the character articles after their credit names - I would definitely agree with you. However since the current policy is to modify the names Heroes Wiki mode, I don't see any reason why this article should be an exception...? [[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 15:00, 29 July 2008 (EDT)		**** Once again - if the policy was to name the character articles after their credit names - I would definitely agree with you. However since the current policy is to modify the names Heroes Wiki mode, I don't see any reason why this article should be an exception...? [[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 15:00, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
			***** I thought the policy was to use the credits, when available... see [[Talk:Jumpsuit#Rename to Jumpsuit??]] for a similar discussion. We use our format when the credits don't specifically name the character, but this is not such a case. If the credits said: Other agents played by James Ryen and so-and-so, like is sometimes done, then we would have freedom to name in our format. I don't see that freedom here.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 15:16, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

imported>Pierre at 19:00, 29 July 2008

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	*** NBC calls the character "Agent 1" both in the credits and in the character reference. If someone comes here looking for an article about the character, I think they'll be looking for "Agent 1".--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:53, 29 July 2008 (EDT)		*** NBC calls the character "Agent 1" both in the credits and in the character reference. If someone comes here looking for an article about the character, I think they'll be looking for "Agent 1".--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:53, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
	**** That's what the redirection is for :) On the other hand - if someone who '''havn't''' seen the webisodes enters the article, the name will most certainly confuse her/him. "Agent 1" sounds like a title, as if he is the most prior agent.		**** That's what the redirection is for :) On the other hand - if someone who '''havn't''' seen the webisodes enters the article, the name will most certainly confuse her/him. "Agent 1" sounds like a title, as if he is the most prior agent.
	***** Once again - if the policy was to name the character articles after their credit names - I would definitely agree with you. However since the current policy is to modify the names Heroes Wiki mode, I don't see any reason why this article should be an exception...? [[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 15:00, 29 July 2008 (EDT)		**** Once again - if the policy was to name the character articles after their credit names - I would definitely agree with you. However since the current policy is to modify the names Heroes Wiki mode, I don't see any reason why this article should be an exception...? [[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 15:00, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

imported>Pierre at 19:00, 29 July 2008

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	** I'd rather we redirected [[Agent 1]] to [[First agent (Echo's home)]], there are no consensus on the matter, but most names of article dealing with non-specific named characters have been changed in order to match our standards. Unless there are some indications that [[Agent 1]] is an actual title, I can't see why this would go for this character as well...?[[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 14:28, 29 July 2008 (EDT)		** I'd rather we redirected [[Agent 1]] to [[First agent (Echo's home)]], there are no consensus on the matter, but most names of article dealing with non-specific named characters have been changed in order to match our standards. Unless there are some indications that [[Agent 1]] is an actual title, I can't see why this would go for this character as well...?[[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 14:28, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
	*** NBC calls the character "Agent 1" both in the credits and in the character reference. If someone comes here looking for an article about the character, I think they'll be looking for "Agent 1".--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:53, 29 July 2008 (EDT)		*** NBC calls the character "Agent 1" both in the credits and in the character reference. If someone comes here looking for an article about the character, I think they'll be looking for "Agent 1".--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:53, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
			**** That's what the redirection is for :) On the other hand - if someone who '''havn't''' seen the webisodes enters the article, the name will most certainly confuse her/him. "Agent 1" sounds like a title, as if he is the most prior agent.
			***** Once again - if the policy was to name the character articles after their credit names - I would definitely agree with you. However since the current policy is to modify the names Heroes Wiki mode, I don't see any reason why this article should be an exception...? [[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 15:00, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

imported>MiamiVolts: /* Name */

2008-07-29T18:53:15Z

Name

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	* Heh. We get all sorts of names from the credits. I think we should keep these since they are official. However, I wouldn't mind a redirect from the names you've suggested.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 10:32, 29 July 2008 (EDT)		* Heh. We get all sorts of names from the credits. I think we should keep these since they are official. However, I wouldn't mind a redirect from the names you've suggested.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 10:32, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
	** I'd rather we redirected [[Agent 1]] to [[First agent (Echo's home)]], there are no consensus on the matter, but most names of article dealing with non-specific named characters have been changed in order to match our standards. Unless there are some indications that [[Agent 1]] is an actual title, I can't see why this would go for this character as well...?[[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 14:28, 29 July 2008 (EDT)		** I'd rather we redirected [[Agent 1]] to [[First agent (Echo's home)]], there are no consensus on the matter, but most names of article dealing with non-specific named characters have been changed in order to match our standards. Unless there are some indications that [[Agent 1]] is an actual title, I can't see why this would go for this character as well...?[[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 14:28, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
			*** NBC calls the character "Agent 1" both in the credits and in the character reference. If someone comes here looking for an article about the character, I think they'll be looking for "Agent 1".--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:53, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

imported>Pierre: oops... signing :)

2008-07-29T18:28:19Z

oops... signing :)

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	I know that "Agent 1" is what this character officially has been called, but I'm not sure about us using the name; it's far too general. Plus - we have been known to change names to be more specific before. I'm thinking [[First agent (Echo's home)]], with [[Agent 2]] becoming [[Second agent (Echo's home)]]. If anyone can come up with shorter names, no one is happier than me though :) But, most important: [[Agent 1]] is really too general. [[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 10:21, 29 July 2008 (EDT)		I know that "Agent 1" is what this character officially has been called, but I'm not sure about us using the name; it's far too general. Plus - we have been known to change names to be more specific before. I'm thinking [[First agent (Echo's home)]], with [[Agent 2]] becoming [[Second agent (Echo's home)]]. If anyone can come up with shorter names, no one is happier than me though :) But, most important: [[Agent 1]] is really too general. [[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 10:21, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
	* Heh. We get all sorts of names from the credits. I think we should keep these since they are official. However, I wouldn't mind a redirect from the names you've suggested.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 10:32, 29 July 2008 (EDT)		* Heh. We get all sorts of names from the credits. I think we should keep these since they are official. However, I wouldn't mind a redirect from the names you've suggested.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 10:32, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
	** I'd rather we redirected [[Agent 1]] to [[First agent (Echo's home)]], there are no consensus on the matter, but most names of article dealing with non-specific named characters have been changed in order to match our standards. Unless there are some indications that [[Agent 1]] is an actual title, I can't see why this would go for this character as well...?		** I'd rather we redirected [[Agent 1]] to [[First agent (Echo's home)]], there are no consensus on the matter, but most names of article dealing with non-specific named characters have been changed in order to match our standards. Unless there are some indications that [[Agent 1]] is an actual title, I can't see why this would go for this character as well...?[[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 14:28, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

imported>Pierre at 18:28, 29 July 2008

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	I know that "Agent 1" is what this character officially has been called, but I'm not sure about us using the name; it's far too general. Plus - we have been known to change names to be more specific before. I'm thinking [[First agent (Echo's home)]], with [[Agent 2]] becoming [[Second agent (Echo's home)]]. If anyone can come up with shorter names, no one is happier than me though :) But, most important: [[Agent 1]] is really too general. [[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 10:21, 29 July 2008 (EDT)		I know that "Agent 1" is what this character officially has been called, but I'm not sure about us using the name; it's far too general. Plus - we have been known to change names to be more specific before. I'm thinking [[First agent (Echo's home)]], with [[Agent 2]] becoming [[Second agent (Echo's home)]]. If anyone can come up with shorter names, no one is happier than me though :) But, most important: [[Agent 1]] is really too general. [[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 10:21, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
	* Heh. We get all sorts of names from the credits. I think we should keep these since they are official. However, I wouldn't mind a redirect from the names you've suggested.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 10:32, 29 July 2008 (EDT)		* Heh. We get all sorts of names from the credits. I think we should keep these since they are official. However, I wouldn't mind a redirect from the names you've suggested.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 10:32, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
			** I'd rather we redirected [[Agent 1]] to [[First agent (Echo's home)]], there are no consensus on the matter, but most names of article dealing with non-specific named characters have been changed in order to match our standards. Unless there are some indications that [[Agent 1]] is an actual title, I can't see why this would go for this character as well...?

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	* Heh. We get all sorts of names from the credits. I think we should keep these since they are official. However, I wouldn't mind a redirect from the names you've suggested.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 10:32, 29 July 2008 (EDT)		* Heh. We get all sorts of names from the credits. I think we should keep these since they are official. However, I wouldn't mind a redirect from the names you've suggested.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 10:32, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
	** I'd rather we redirected [[Agent 1]] to [[First agent (Echo's home)]], there are no consensus on the matter, but most names of article dealing with non-specific named characters have been changed in order to match our standards. Unless there are some indications that [[Agent 1]] is an actual title, I can't see why this would go for this character as well...?[[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 14:28, 29 July 2008 (EDT)		** I'd rather we redirected [[Agent 1]] to [[First agent (Echo's home)]], there are no consensus on the matter, but most names of article dealing with non-specific named characters have been changed in order to match our standards. Unless there are some indications that [[Agent 1]] is an actual title, I can't see why this would go for this character as well...?[[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 14:28, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
			*** NBC calls the character "Agent 1" both in the credits and in the character reference. If someone comes here looking for an article about the character, I think they'll be looking for "Agent 1".--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:53, 29 July 2008 (EDT)