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	****** Haha, I'm pretty sure I had a hand in naming it on Wikipedia. [[User:Therequiembellishere\|Therequiembellishere]] 18:20, 6 December 2008 (EST)		****** Haha, I'm pretty sure I had a hand in naming it on Wikipedia. [[User:Therequiembellishere\|Therequiembellishere]] 18:20, 6 December 2008 (EST)

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	[[User:Shadowulf1]] 14:08, 2 August 2008 (EDT) Why don't we call the ability '''Structure Weakening''', as the ability doesn't appear that e actually has superhuman strength, but rather ''weakens'' the stature of other materials, allowing his to appear to have super-strength.		[[User:Shadowulf1]] 14:08, 2 August 2008 (EDT) Why don't we call the ability '''Structure Weakening''', as the ability doesn't appear that e actually has superhuman strength, but rather ''weakens'' the stature of other materials, allowing his to appear to have super-strength.
	* Check out our [[Help:Naming_conventions#Power_Names\|naming convention]] for abilities. We don't arbitrarily pick names for the abilities or else there'd never be a name that everyone would settle for. The term "crumple" was explicitly used within the graphic novel and therefore that's how we name it. ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] 14:27, 2 August 2008 (EDT))		* Check out our [[Help:Naming_conventions#Power_Names\|naming convention]] for abilities. We don't arbitrarily pick names for the abilities or else there'd never be a name that everyone would settle for. The term "crumple" was explicitly used within the graphic novel and therefore that's how we name it. ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] 14:27, 2 August 2008 (EDT))

imported>D and d 123: /* Quotation marks? */

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Quotation marks?

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	* Actually, it is an adequate description. Crumpling is exactly what Marcus does. He crumples objects. --[[User:Ice Vision\|<span style="font-family: tahoma; font-size: 10pt; color:darkgreen">Ice Vision</span>]] [[User talk:Ice Vision\|<span style="font-family: comic sans ms; font-size: 8pt; font-weight: bold; color: blue">(talk)</span>]] 22:11, 25 December 2007 (EST)		* Actually, it is an adequate description. Crumpling is exactly what Marcus does. He crumples objects. --[[User:Ice Vision\|<span style="font-family: tahoma; font-size: 10pt; color:darkgreen">Ice Vision</span>]] [[User talk:Ice Vision\|<span style="font-family: comic sans ms; font-size: 8pt; font-weight: bold; color: blue">(talk)</span>]] 22:11, 25 December 2007 (EST)
	** He turned people inside out. What you would expect from "crumpling" is that they'd be smooshed, not inverted. -- [[User:LightSpectra\|LightSpectra]] 22:23, 25 December 2007 (EST)		** He turned people inside out. What you would expect from "crumpling" is that they'd be smooshed, not inverted. -- [[User:LightSpectra\|LightSpectra]] 22:23, 25 December 2007 (EST)
			** He doesn't 'crumple' objects. That verb implies haphazard, random deformities. With this ability, Marcus could tie a titanium rod into a bow. This should be called plasticity alteration, because that is exactly what he does.<br />
	*** Correct me if I'm wrong, but those corpses don't look like they've been "turned inside out". The police officer was probably wrong or was just using a figure of speech. The bodies look like they have been literally crumpled, crushed, and dehydrated. Here's a definition of "crumple" from [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/crumple dictionary.com]:<br>		*** Correct me if I'm wrong, but those corpses don't look like they've been "turned inside out". The police officer was probably wrong or was just using a figure of speech. The bodies look like they have been literally crumpled, crushed, and dehydrated. Here's a definition of "crumple" from [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/crumple dictionary.com]:<br>
	–verb (used with object)		–verb (used with object)
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	It actually fits the power quite well. --{{User:Ice Vision/sig}} 22:30, 25 December 2007 (EST)		It actually fits the power quite well. --{{User:Ice Vision/sig}} 22:30, 25 December 2007 (EST)
	*I agree, I think "crumpling" is a very adequate term to describe what Marcus does, and does not require scare quotes. When the [[Arizona officer]] says that "something turned them inside out", I personally read that as a figurative term, not a literal description of the corpses, especially in light of the images [[Micah Gunnell]] drew. Kinda like when somebody says they "opened a can of whoopass", nobody is actually getting out a can opener. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 09:52, 26 December 2007 (EST)		*I agree, I think "crumpling" is a very adequate term to describe what Marcus does, and does not require scare quotes. When the [[Arizona officer]] says that "something turned them inside out", I personally read that as a figurative term, not a literal description of the corpses, especially in light of the images [[Micah Gunnell]] drew. Kinda like when somebody says they "opened a can of whoopass", nobody is actually getting out a can opener. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 09:52, 26 December 2007 (EST)
			* Dying and being killed have the same basic meanings. However, if you said that your uncle was killed, most people instinctively assume that foul play was involved. Likewise, 'crumpling' implies that he can only make objects more rumpled and twisted. If he wanted to, he could straighten out a crowbar, or even fix a deformed limb. His power allows him to alter the plasticity of objects and people by touching them. -D and D 123
	*This ability should be called plasticity alteration. It's a more accurate description. Crumpling sounds like something you would use to bend spoons. -D and D 123		*This ability should be called plasticity alteration. It's a more accurate description. Crumpling sounds like something you would use to bend spoons. -D and D 123
	**It was the name given for the ability. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 17:06, 9 November 2009 (EST)		**It was the name given for the ability. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 17:06, 9 November 2009 (EST)
	*** This is a wiki, not a dictatorship. If a given name makes no sense, then we should be allowed to change it. Rage against the establishment, IE! Woohoo! -D and D 123		*** This is a wiki, not a dictatorship. If a given name makes no sense, then we should be allowed to change it. Rage against the establishment, IE! Woohoo! -D and D 123
	**** I was against naming Donna's ability [[telescopic vision]], because it doesn't describe all she can do, but the name stayed like that anyway. I go according to what the community in general decides, it's not a dictatorship, it's upholding what the community decided, and I would rather live in a dictatorship that works for most than risk having it become an anarchy to accomodate the wishes of very few, no offense. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 09:50, 13 November 2009 (EST)		**** I was against naming Donna's ability [[telescopic vision]], because it doesn't describe all she can do, but the name stayed like that anyway. I go according to what the community in general decides, it's not a dictatorship, it's upholding what the community decided, and I would rather live in a dictatorship that works for most than risk having it become an anarchy to accomodate the wishes of very few, no offense. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 09:50, 13 November 2009 (EST)
			**** Touche. Well done. -D and d 123

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imported>Intuitive Empath: /* Quotation marks? */

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Quotation marks?

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	**It was the name given for the ability. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 17:06, 9 November 2009 (EST)		**It was the name given for the ability. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 17:06, 9 November 2009 (EST)
	*** This is a wiki, not a dictatorship. If a given name makes no sense, then we should be allowed to change it. Rage against the establishment, IE! Woohoo! -D and D 123		*** This is a wiki, not a dictatorship. If a given name makes no sense, then we should be allowed to change it. Rage against the establishment, IE! Woohoo! -D and D 123
			**** I was against naming Donna's ability [[telescopic vision]], because it doesn't describe all she can do, but the name stayed like that anyway. I go according to what the community in general decides, it's not a dictatorship, it's upholding what the community decided, and I would rather live in a dictatorship that works for most than risk having it become an anarchy to accomodate the wishes of very few, no offense. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 09:50, 13 November 2009 (EST)

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imported>D and d 123: /* Quotation marks? */

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Quotation marks?

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	*This ability should be called plasticity alteration. It's a more accurate description. Crumpling sounds like something you would use to bend spoons. -D and D 123		*This ability should be called plasticity alteration. It's a more accurate description. Crumpling sounds like something you would use to bend spoons. -D and D 123
	**It was the name given for the ability. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 17:06, 9 November 2009 (EST)		**It was the name given for the ability. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 17:06, 9 November 2009 (EST)
			*** This is a wiki, not a dictatorship. If a given name makes no sense, then we should be allowed to change it. Rage against the establishment, IE! Woohoo! -D and D 123

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imported>Intuitive Empath at 22:06, 9 November 2009

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	*I agree, I think "crumpling" is a very adequate term to describe what Marcus does, and does not require scare quotes. When the [[Arizona officer]] says that "something turned them inside out", I personally read that as a figurative term, not a literal description of the corpses, especially in light of the images [[Micah Gunnell]] drew. Kinda like when somebody says they "opened a can of whoopass", nobody is actually getting out a can opener. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 09:52, 26 December 2007 (EST)		*I agree, I think "crumpling" is a very adequate term to describe what Marcus does, and does not require scare quotes. When the [[Arizona officer]] says that "something turned them inside out", I personally read that as a figurative term, not a literal description of the corpses, especially in light of the images [[Micah Gunnell]] drew. Kinda like when somebody says they "opened a can of whoopass", nobody is actually getting out a can opener. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 09:52, 26 December 2007 (EST)
	*This ability should be called plasticity alteration. It's a more accurate description. Crumpling sounds like something you would use to bend spoons. -D and D 123		*This ability should be called plasticity alteration. It's a more accurate description. Crumpling sounds like something you would use to bend spoons. -D and D 123
			**It was the name given for the ability. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 17:06, 9 November 2009 (EST)

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imported>D and d 123: /* Quotation marks? */

2009-11-09T21:51:31Z

Quotation marks?

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	It actually fits the power quite well. --{{User:Ice Vision/sig}} 22:30, 25 December 2007 (EST)		It actually fits the power quite well. --{{User:Ice Vision/sig}} 22:30, 25 December 2007 (EST)
	*I agree, I think "crumpling" is a very adequate term to describe what Marcus does, and does not require scare quotes. When the [[Arizona officer]] says that "something turned them inside out", I personally read that as a figurative term, not a literal description of the corpses, especially in light of the images [[Micah Gunnell]] drew. Kinda like when somebody says they "opened a can of whoopass", nobody is actually getting out a can opener. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 09:52, 26 December 2007 (EST)		*I agree, I think "crumpling" is a very adequate term to describe what Marcus does, and does not require scare quotes. When the [[Arizona officer]] says that "something turned them inside out", I personally read that as a figurative term, not a literal description of the corpses, especially in light of the images [[Micah Gunnell]] drew. Kinda like when somebody says they "opened a can of whoopass", nobody is actually getting out a can opener. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 09:52, 26 December 2007 (EST)
	*This ~~name~~ should be called plasticity alteration. It's a more accurate description. Crumpling sounds like something you would use to bend spoons. -D and D 123		*This ability should be called plasticity alteration. It's a more accurate description. Crumpling sounds like something you would use to bend spoons. -D and D 123

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imported>D and d 123: /* Quotation marks? */

2009-11-09T21:51:19Z

Quotation marks?

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	It actually fits the power quite well. --{{User:Ice Vision/sig}} 22:30, 25 December 2007 (EST)		It actually fits the power quite well. --{{User:Ice Vision/sig}} 22:30, 25 December 2007 (EST)
	*I agree, I think "crumpling" is a very adequate term to describe what Marcus does, and does not require scare quotes. When the [[Arizona officer]] says that "something turned them inside out", I personally read that as a figurative term, not a literal description of the corpses, especially in light of the images [[Micah Gunnell]] drew. Kinda like when somebody says they "opened a can of whoopass", nobody is actually getting out a can opener. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 09:52, 26 December 2007 (EST)		*I agree, I think "crumpling" is a very adequate term to describe what Marcus does, and does not require scare quotes. When the [[Arizona officer]] says that "something turned them inside out", I personally read that as a figurative term, not a literal description of the corpses, especially in light of the images [[Micah Gunnell]] drew. Kinda like when somebody says they "opened a can of whoopass", nobody is actually getting out a can opener. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 09:52, 26 December 2007 (EST)
			*This name should be called plasticity alteration. It's a more accurate description. Crumpling sounds like something you would use to bend spoons. -D and D 123

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imported>Therequiembellishere: /* How stupid */

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How stupid

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	****Plassticity makes no sense? It makes perfect sense. Plasticity: the capability of being molded, receiving shape, or being made to assume a desired form. Sounds exactly like what Marcus was doing. He took one shape a trash can or human body and made it receive a shape it didn't naturally have, he desired them to be crumpled. --[[User:Snow Leapord\|Snow Leapord]] 07:37, 3 March 2008 (EST)		****Plassticity makes no sense? It makes perfect sense. Plasticity: the capability of being molded, receiving shape, or being made to assume a desired form. Sounds exactly like what Marcus was doing. He took one shape a trash can or human body and made it receive a shape it didn't naturally have, he desired them to be crumpled. --[[User:Snow Leapord\|Snow Leapord]] 07:37, 3 March 2008 (EST)
	***** Are we sure he turned them into a "desired form", or did he just crumple them and they took a new shape? It seems like there was very little molding going on, and more of a broad destruction. In either case, Marcus says he can crumple, so for the purposes of the article's title, it's the gerund form of what Marcus can do: crumpling. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 11:26, 3 March 2008 (EST)		***** Are we sure he turned them into a "desired form", or did he just crumple them and they took a new shape? It seems like there was very little molding going on, and more of a broad destruction. In either case, Marcus says he can crumple, so for the purposes of the article's title, it's the gerund form of what Marcus can do: crumpling. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 11:26, 3 March 2008 (EST)
	***** Haha, I'm pretty sure I had a hand in naming it on Wikipedia. [[User:Therequiembellishere\|Therequiembellishere]] 18:20, 6 December 2008 (EST)		****** Haha, I'm pretty sure I had a hand in naming it on Wikipedia. [[User:Therequiembellishere\|Therequiembellishere]] 18:20, 6 December 2008 (EST)

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imported>Therequiembellishere: /* How stupid */

2008-12-06T23:20:52Z

How stupid

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	****Plassticity makes no sense? It makes perfect sense. Plasticity: the capability of being molded, receiving shape, or being made to assume a desired form. Sounds exactly like what Marcus was doing. He took one shape a trash can or human body and made it receive a shape it didn't naturally have, he desired them to be crumpled. --[[User:Snow Leapord\|Snow Leapord]] 07:37, 3 March 2008 (EST)		****Plassticity makes no sense? It makes perfect sense. Plasticity: the capability of being molded, receiving shape, or being made to assume a desired form. Sounds exactly like what Marcus was doing. He took one shape a trash can or human body and made it receive a shape it didn't naturally have, he desired them to be crumpled. --[[User:Snow Leapord\|Snow Leapord]] 07:37, 3 March 2008 (EST)
	***** Are we sure he turned them into a "desired form", or did he just crumple them and they took a new shape? It seems like there was very little molding going on, and more of a broad destruction. In either case, Marcus says he can crumple, so for the purposes of the article's title, it's the gerund form of what Marcus can do: crumpling. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 11:26, 3 March 2008 (EST)		***** Are we sure he turned them into a "desired form", or did he just crumple them and they took a new shape? It seems like there was very little molding going on, and more of a broad destruction. In either case, Marcus says he can crumple, so for the purposes of the article's title, it's the gerund form of what Marcus can do: crumpling. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 11:26, 3 March 2008 (EST)
			***** Haha, I'm pretty sure I had a hand in naming it on Wikipedia. [[User:Therequiembellishere\|Therequiembellishere]] 18:20, 6 December 2008 (EST)

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