Talk:Deveaux Society - Revision history

imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* No longer a spoiler? */

2008-12-16T00:13:02Z

No longer a spoiler?

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imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* No longer a spoiler? */

2008-12-16T00:13:02Z

No longer a spoiler?

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	******* I don't think it's a spoiler anymore. Whether or not it was when [[User:Heroe\|Heroe]] created the article back in 2006 doesn't matter. It probably was during the first season. It's not anymore. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 23:15, 13 December 2008 (EST)		******* I don't think it's a spoiler anymore. Whether or not it was when [[User:Heroe\|Heroe]] created the article back in 2006 doesn't matter. It probably was during the first season. It's not anymore. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 23:15, 13 December 2008 (EST)
	******** I think it matters whether it was a season or series specific spoiler. I'll see if I can get Heroe to comment on it.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 23:16, 13 December 2008 (EST)		******** I think it matters whether it was a season or series specific spoiler. I'll see if I can get Heroe to comment on it.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 23:16, 13 December 2008 (EST)
			********* If something is a general spoiler about the series (and not a volume), we can add that info to [[Spoiler:Heroes]]. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 19:13, 15 December 2008 (EST)

	I fail to see how it is relevant if a spoiler is tied to a volume or not. If Richard Schiff's character was known to have been pushed forward to a later date (e.g. Volume 4), I don't think there would be anyone objecting to keep it. The same goes for this article - if there were ''any'' indication that the idea had been pushed forward, and not cut, we most definitely should keep it. But there isn't. <br>'''Delete'''. Now. --[[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 10:16, 15 December 2008 (EST)		I fail to see how it is relevant if a spoiler is tied to a volume or not. If Richard Schiff's character was known to have been pushed forward to a later date (e.g. Volume 4), I don't think there would be anyone objecting to keep it. The same goes for this article - if there were ''any'' indication that the idea had been pushed forward, and not cut, we most definitely should keep it. But there isn't. <br>'''Delete'''. Now. --[[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 10:16, 15 December 2008 (EST)

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	*To be honest, I thought this got deleted a long time ago. --{{User:Heroe/sig}} 17:12, 15 December 2008 (EST)		*To be honest, I thought this got deleted a long time ago. --{{User:Heroe/sig}} 17:12, 15 December 2008 (EST)
	** Thanks Hero! and 'Roesian for your inputs! I was the one who asked. Now, since no one else seems interested in keeping this as a spoiler, I recommend that we delete it.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 18:32, 15 December 2008 (EST)		** Thanks Hero! and 'Roesian for your inputs! I was the one who asked. Now, since no one else seems interested in keeping this as a spoiler, I recommend that we delete it.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 18:32, 15 December 2008 (EST)
			*** I'll delete it now and add info to [[Charles Deveaux#Notes]] and [[Simone Deveaux#Notes]] for good measure]]. If it's deemed that this is indeed a resurrected spoiler, I can undelete the page. Or, better yet, the info can be added to [[Spoiler:Heroes]] like we do with every other spoiler. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 19:13, 15 December 2008 (EST)

imported>MiamiVolts: /* No longer a spoiler? */ delete recommendation

2008-12-15T23:32:45Z

No longer a spoiler?: delete recommendation

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	But yeah, the Deveaux Society info ceased to be such a spoilery tidbit when the writers went another direction with the storylines. I was also the ones labeled as "Hero" and "Heroes" in the top 2 questions in [http://www.myfanbase.de/index.php?mid=1492&pid=2666 this Tawny Cypress interview] (questions numbered as 8 & 9), if ya wanted to know a little bit more about Charles' story initially. Hope that helps, fwiw; I just like to keep a record o' things, like [http://boards.9thwonders.com/index.php?act=findpost&pid=71425 the Devereaux/Devere/Deveaux name change], just to show the process tptb went through, kinda like the fun in seein' War/Duality/Duel/Dual, even if the info is no longer relevant. [[User:'ROESian\|'ROESian]]		But yeah, the Deveaux Society info ceased to be such a spoilery tidbit when the writers went another direction with the storylines. I was also the ones labeled as "Hero" and "Heroes" in the top 2 questions in [http://www.myfanbase.de/index.php?mid=1492&pid=2666 this Tawny Cypress interview] (questions numbered as 8 & 9), if ya wanted to know a little bit more about Charles' story initially. Hope that helps, fwiw; I just like to keep a record o' things, like [http://boards.9thwonders.com/index.php?act=findpost&pid=71425 the Devereaux/Devere/Deveaux name change], just to show the process tptb went through, kinda like the fun in seein' War/Duality/Duel/Dual, even if the info is no longer relevant. [[User:'ROESian\|'ROESian]]
	*To be honest, I thought this got deleted a long time ago. --{{User:Heroe/sig}} 17:12, 15 December 2008 (EST)		*To be honest, I thought this got deleted a long time ago. --{{User:Heroe/sig}} 17:12, 15 December 2008 (EST)
			** Thanks Hero! and 'Roesian for your inputs! I was the one who asked. Now, since no one else seems interested in keeping this as a spoiler, I recommend that we delete it.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 18:32, 15 December 2008 (EST)

imported>Heroe: /* No longer a spoiler? */

2008-12-15T22:12:34Z

No longer a spoiler?

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	But yeah, the Deveaux Society info ceased to be such a spoilery tidbit when the writers went another direction with the storylines. I was also the ones labeled as "Hero" and "Heroes" in the top 2 questions in [http://www.myfanbase.de/index.php?mid=1492&pid=2666 this Tawny Cypress interview] (questions numbered as 8 & 9), if ya wanted to know a little bit more about Charles' story initially. Hope that helps, fwiw; I just like to keep a record o' things, like [http://boards.9thwonders.com/index.php?act=findpost&pid=71425 the Devereaux/Devere/Deveaux name change], just to show the process tptb went through, kinda like the fun in seein' War/Duality/Duel/Dual, even if the info is no longer relevant. [[User:'ROESian\|'ROESian]]		But yeah, the Deveaux Society info ceased to be such a spoilery tidbit when the writers went another direction with the storylines. I was also the ones labeled as "Hero" and "Heroes" in the top 2 questions in [http://www.myfanbase.de/index.php?mid=1492&pid=2666 this Tawny Cypress interview] (questions numbered as 8 & 9), if ya wanted to know a little bit more about Charles' story initially. Hope that helps, fwiw; I just like to keep a record o' things, like [http://boards.9thwonders.com/index.php?act=findpost&pid=71425 the Devereaux/Devere/Deveaux name change], just to show the process tptb went through, kinda like the fun in seein' War/Duality/Duel/Dual, even if the info is no longer relevant. [[User:'ROESian\|'ROESian]]
			*To be honest, I thought this got deleted a long time ago. --{{User:Heroe/sig}} 17:12, 15 December 2008 (EST)

imported>'ROESian: /* No longer a spoiler? */ Doesn't seem like it... I guess it could be deleted, though I attempt keep old info for the fun o' it.

2008-12-15T20:59:45Z

No longer a spoiler?: Doesn't seem like it... I guess it could be deleted, though I attempt keep old info for the fun o' it.

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	******** I think it matters whether it was a season or series specific spoiler. I'll see if I can get Heroe to comment on it.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 23:16, 13 December 2008 (EST)		******** I think it matters whether it was a season or series specific spoiler. I'll see if I can get Heroe to comment on it.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 23:16, 13 December 2008 (EST)
	I fail to see how it is relevant if a spoiler is tied to a volume or not. If Richard Schiff's character was known to have been pushed forward to a later date (e.g. Volume 4), I don't think there would be anyone objecting to keep it. The same goes for this article - if there were ''any'' indication that the idea had been pushed forward, and not cut, we most definitely should keep it. But there isn't. <br>'''Delete'''. Now. --[[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 10:16, 15 December 2008 (EST)		I fail to see how it is relevant if a spoiler is tied to a volume or not. If Richard Schiff's character was known to have been pushed forward to a later date (e.g. Volume 4), I don't think there would be anyone objecting to keep it. The same goes for this article - if there were ''any'' indication that the idea had been pushed forward, and not cut, we most definitely should keep it. But there isn't. <br>'''Delete'''. Now. --[[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 10:16, 15 December 2008 (EST)

			So, I ([http://boards.9thwonders.com/index.php?showuser=5961 HERΟ at 9thW]) was asked to make a comment about [http://heroeswiki.com/index.php?title=Deveaux_Society&diff=2881&oldid=2880 the Deveaux Society "spoiler"] from [[User:Heroe\|Heroe]] way back when. That submission wasn't from me, however, I was active at 9thW when [http://snurl.com/OllieG Ollie] posted that teaser-y info. You can see the silly speculations in [http://boards.9thwonders.com/index.php?act=findpost&pid=10225 this thread] and [http://boards.9thwonders.com/index.php?act=findpost&pid=14030 that thread], but no, I'm not Heroe. Obviously, with this entry, I'm 'ROESian (though I also registered 'roesian so others wouldn't take it as a copycat).

			But yeah, the Deveaux Society info ceased to be such a spoilery tidbit when the writers went another direction with the storylines. I was also the ones labeled as "Hero" and "Heroes" in the top 2 questions in [http://www.myfanbase.de/index.php?mid=1492&pid=2666 this Tawny Cypress interview] (questions numbered as 8 & 9), if ya wanted to know a little bit more about Charles' story initially. Hope that helps, fwiw; I just like to keep a record o' things, like [http://boards.9thwonders.com/index.php?act=findpost&pid=71425 the Devereaux/Devere/Deveaux name change], just to show the process tptb went through, kinda like the fun in seein' War/Duality/Duel/Dual, even if the info is no longer relevant. [[User:'ROESian\|'ROESian]]

imported>Pierre at 15:16, 15 December 2008

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	******* I don't think it's a spoiler anymore. Whether or not it was when [[User:Heroe\|Heroe]] created the article back in 2006 doesn't matter. It probably was during the first season. It's not anymore. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 23:15, 13 December 2008 (EST)		******* I don't think it's a spoiler anymore. Whether or not it was when [[User:Heroe\|Heroe]] created the article back in 2006 doesn't matter. It probably was during the first season. It's not anymore. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 23:15, 13 December 2008 (EST)
	******** I think it matters whether it was a season or series specific spoiler. I'll see if I can get Heroe to comment on it.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 23:16, 13 December 2008 (EST)		******** I think it matters whether it was a season or series specific spoiler. I'll see if I can get Heroe to comment on it.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 23:16, 13 December 2008 (EST)
			I fail to see how it is relevant if a spoiler is tied to a volume or not. If Richard Schiff's character was known to have been pushed forward to a later date (e.g. Volume 4), I don't think there would be anyone objecting to keep it. The same goes for this article - if there were ''any'' indication that the idea had been pushed forward, and not cut, we most definitely should keep it. But there isn't. <br>'''Delete'''. Now. --[[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 10:16, 15 December 2008 (EST)

imported>MiamiVolts: /* No longer a spoiler? */

2008-12-14T04:16:54Z

No longer a spoiler?

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	****** The sources given two years ago are those we used to document it as a spoiler. Are you claiming now that they were not valid enough sources so we should never have considered this a spoiler to begin with?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 22:27, 13 December 2008 (EST)		****** The sources given two years ago are those we used to document it as a spoiler. Are you claiming now that they were not valid enough sources so we should never have considered this a spoiler to begin with?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 22:27, 13 December 2008 (EST)
	******* I don't think it's a spoiler anymore. Whether or not it was when [[User:Heroe\|Heroe]] created the article back in 2006 doesn't matter. It probably was during the first season. It's not anymore. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 23:15, 13 December 2008 (EST)		******* I don't think it's a spoiler anymore. Whether or not it was when [[User:Heroe\|Heroe]] created the article back in 2006 doesn't matter. It probably was during the first season. It's not anymore. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 23:15, 13 December 2008 (EST)
			******** I think it matters whether it was a season or series specific spoiler. I'll see if I can get Heroe to comment on it.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 23:16, 13 December 2008 (EST)

imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* No longer a spoiler? */

2008-12-14T04:15:29Z

No longer a spoiler?

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	***** There's still no reason to believe it's a spoiler, and there's really no reason for the page to exist at all. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:19, 13 December 2008 (EST)		***** There's still no reason to believe it's a spoiler, and there's really no reason for the page to exist at all. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:19, 13 December 2008 (EST)
	****** The sources given two years ago are those we used to document it as a spoiler. Are you claiming now that they were not valid enough sources so we should never have considered this a spoiler to begin with?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 22:27, 13 December 2008 (EST)		****** The sources given two years ago are those we used to document it as a spoiler. Are you claiming now that they were not valid enough sources so we should never have considered this a spoiler to begin with?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 22:27, 13 December 2008 (EST)
			******* I don't think it's a spoiler anymore. Whether or not it was when [[User:Heroe\|Heroe]] created the article back in 2006 doesn't matter. It probably was during the first season. It's not anymore. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 23:15, 13 December 2008 (EST)

imported>MiamiVolts: /* No longer a spoiler? */ reply

2008-12-14T03:27:31Z

No longer a spoiler?: reply

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	**** Actually, the Richard Schiff, Sophie and Officer McKinzie were Volume-specific spoilers. They were actors/characters who were rumored to appear in Volume 3, but that didn't happen so they are valid deletions, imho. The Deveaux Society didn't have any specific volume reference or connotation to it that I know of.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 19:59, 13 December 2008 (EST)		**** Actually, the Richard Schiff, Sophie and Officer McKinzie were Volume-specific spoilers. They were actors/characters who were rumored to appear in Volume 3, but that didn't happen so they are valid deletions, imho. The Deveaux Society didn't have any specific volume reference or connotation to it that I know of.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 19:59, 13 December 2008 (EST)
	***** There's still no reason to believe it's a spoiler, and there's really no reason for the page to exist at all. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:19, 13 December 2008 (EST)		***** There's still no reason to believe it's a spoiler, and there's really no reason for the page to exist at all. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:19, 13 December 2008 (EST)
			****** The sources given two years ago are those we used to document it as a spoiler. Are you claiming now that they were not valid enough sources so we should never have considered this a spoiler to begin with?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 22:27, 13 December 2008 (EST)

imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* No longer a spoiler? */

2008-12-14T03:19:48Z

No longer a spoiler?

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	*** I'll afd it so it can be discussed. Keep in mind that this page was created during a time when the wiki was young and didn't have very strong policies yet. There's also no reason to believe that the Deveaux Society is any more a part of ''Heroes'' or ''Heroes'' spoilers than Richard Schiff, Sophie, or Officer McKinzie. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 19:52, 13 December 2008 (EST)		*** I'll afd it so it can be discussed. Keep in mind that this page was created during a time when the wiki was young and didn't have very strong policies yet. There's also no reason to believe that the Deveaux Society is any more a part of ''Heroes'' or ''Heroes'' spoilers than Richard Schiff, Sophie, or Officer McKinzie. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 19:52, 13 December 2008 (EST)
	**** Actually, the Richard Schiff, Sophie and Officer McKinzie were Volume-specific spoilers. They were actors/characters who were rumored to appear in Volume 3, but that didn't happen so they are valid deletions, imho. The Deveaux Society didn't have any specific volume reference or connotation to it that I know of.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 19:59, 13 December 2008 (EST)		**** Actually, the Richard Schiff, Sophie and Officer McKinzie were Volume-specific spoilers. They were actors/characters who were rumored to appear in Volume 3, but that didn't happen so they are valid deletions, imho. The Deveaux Society didn't have any specific volume reference or connotation to it that I know of.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 19:59, 13 December 2008 (EST)
			***** There's still no reason to believe it's a spoiler, and there's really no reason for the page to exist at all. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:19, 13 December 2008 (EST)

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	******** I think it matters whether it was a season or series specific spoiler. I'll see if I can get Heroe to comment on it.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 23:16, 13 December 2008 (EST)		******** I think it matters whether it was a season or series specific spoiler. I'll see if I can get Heroe to comment on it.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 23:16, 13 December 2008 (EST)
	I fail to see how it is relevant if a spoiler is tied to a volume or not. If Richard Schiff's character was known to have been pushed forward to a later date (e.g. Volume 4), I don't think there would be anyone objecting to keep it. The same goes for this article - if there were ''any'' indication that the idea had been pushed forward, and not cut, we most definitely should keep it. But there isn't. <br>'''Delete'''. Now. --[[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 10:16, 15 December 2008 (EST)		I fail to see how it is relevant if a spoiler is tied to a volume or not. If Richard Schiff's character was known to have been pushed forward to a later date (e.g. Volume 4), I don't think there would be anyone objecting to keep it. The same goes for this article - if there were ''any'' indication that the idea had been pushed forward, and not cut, we most definitely should keep it. But there isn't. <br>'''Delete'''. Now. --[[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 10:16, 15 December 2008 (EST)

			So, I ([http://boards.9thwonders.com/index.php?showuser=5961 HERΟ at 9thW]) was asked to make a comment about [http://heroeswiki.com/index.php?title=Deveaux_Society&diff=2881&oldid=2880 the Deveaux Society "spoiler"] from [[User:Heroe\|Heroe]] way back when. That submission wasn't from me, however, I was active at 9thW when [http://snurl.com/OllieG Ollie] posted that teaser-y info. You can see the silly speculations in [http://boards.9thwonders.com/index.php?act=findpost&pid=10225 this thread] and [http://boards.9thwonders.com/index.php?act=findpost&pid=14030 that thread], but no, I'm not Heroe. Obviously, with this entry, I'm 'ROESian (though I also registered 'roesian so others wouldn't take it as a copycat).

			But yeah, the Deveaux Society info ceased to be such a spoilery tidbit when the writers went another direction with the storylines. I was also the ones labeled as "Hero" and "Heroes" in the top 2 questions in [http://www.myfanbase.de/index.php?mid=1492&pid=2666 this Tawny Cypress interview] (questions numbered as 8 & 9), if ya wanted to know a little bit more about Charles' story initially. Hope that helps, fwiw; I just like to keep a record o' things, like [http://boards.9thwonders.com/index.php?act=findpost&pid=71425 the Devereaux/Devere/Deveaux name change], just to show the process tptb went through, kinda like the fun in seein' War/Duality/Duel/Dual, even if the info is no longer relevant. [[User:'ROESian\|'ROESian]]

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	******* I don't think it's a spoiler anymore. Whether or not it was when [[User:Heroe\|Heroe]] created the article back in 2006 doesn't matter. It probably was during the first season. It's not anymore. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 23:15, 13 December 2008 (EST)		******* I don't think it's a spoiler anymore. Whether or not it was when [[User:Heroe\|Heroe]] created the article back in 2006 doesn't matter. It probably was during the first season. It's not anymore. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 23:15, 13 December 2008 (EST)
	******** I think it matters whether it was a season or series specific spoiler. I'll see if I can get Heroe to comment on it.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 23:16, 13 December 2008 (EST)		******** I think it matters whether it was a season or series specific spoiler. I'll see if I can get Heroe to comment on it.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 23:16, 13 December 2008 (EST)
			I fail to see how it is relevant if a spoiler is tied to a volume or not. If Richard Schiff's character was known to have been pushed forward to a later date (e.g. Volume 4), I don't think there would be anyone objecting to keep it. The same goes for this article - if there were ''any'' indication that the idea had been pushed forward, and not cut, we most definitely should keep it. But there isn't. <br>'''Delete'''. Now. --[[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 10:16, 15 December 2008 (EST)

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	****** The sources given two years ago are those we used to document it as a spoiler. Are you claiming now that they were not valid enough sources so we should never have considered this a spoiler to begin with?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 22:27, 13 December 2008 (EST)		****** The sources given two years ago are those we used to document it as a spoiler. Are you claiming now that they were not valid enough sources so we should never have considered this a spoiler to begin with?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 22:27, 13 December 2008 (EST)
	******* I don't think it's a spoiler anymore. Whether or not it was when [[User:Heroe\|Heroe]] created the article back in 2006 doesn't matter. It probably was during the first season. It's not anymore. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 23:15, 13 December 2008 (EST)		******* I don't think it's a spoiler anymore. Whether or not it was when [[User:Heroe\|Heroe]] created the article back in 2006 doesn't matter. It probably was during the first season. It's not anymore. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 23:15, 13 December 2008 (EST)
			******** I think it matters whether it was a season or series specific spoiler. I'll see if I can get Heroe to comment on it.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 23:16, 13 December 2008 (EST)