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		<title>imported&gt;Ryangibsonstewart: redirect -- this page is already archived at Talk:Electromagnetism/Archive 3</title>
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		<updated>2008-12-18T02:34:02Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;redirect -- this page is already archived at &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Talk:Electromagnetism/Archive_3&quot; title=&quot;Talk:Electromagnetism/Archive 3&quot;&gt;Talk:Electromagnetism/Archive 3&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>imported&gt;Ryangibsonstewart: redirect -- this page is already archived at Talk:Electromagnetism/Archive 3</title>
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		<updated>2008-12-18T02:34:02Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;redirect -- this page is already archived at &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Talk:Electromagnetism/Archive_3&quot; title=&quot;Talk:Electromagnetism/Archive 3&quot;&gt;Talk:Electromagnetism/Archive 3&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>imported&gt;Admin: Talk:Electromagnetism(Merged) moved to Talk:Electromagnetism over redirect: content gets merged manually, then page is deleted... not moved</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=Talk:Electromagnetism(Merged)&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1&quot; class=&quot;new&quot; title=&quot;Talk:Electromagnetism(Merged) (page does not exist)&quot;&gt;Talk:Electromagnetism(Merged)&lt;/a&gt; moved to &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Talk:Electromagnetism&quot; class=&quot;mw-redirect&quot; title=&quot;Talk:Electromagnetism&quot;&gt;Talk:Electromagnetism&lt;/a&gt; over redirect: content gets merged manually, then page is deleted... not moved&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>imported&gt;HiroDynoSlayer: Talk:Electromagnetism moved to Talk:Electromagnetism(Merged): Need an admin to merge over the discussion page</title>
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		<updated>2008-12-15T16:33:09Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Talk:Electromagnetism&quot; class=&quot;mw-redirect&quot; title=&quot;Talk:Electromagnetism&quot;&gt;Talk:Electromagnetism&lt;/a&gt; moved to &lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=Talk:Electromagnetism(Merged)&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1&quot; class=&quot;new&quot; title=&quot;Talk:Electromagnetism(Merged) (page does not exist)&quot;&gt;Talk:Electromagnetism(Merged)&lt;/a&gt;: Need an admin to merge over the discussion page&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>imported&gt;HiroDynoSlayer: /* Merge with Electric manipulation */</title>
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		<updated>2008-12-15T16:17:52Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Merge with Electric manipulation&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;***** I&#039;ve already given my reasons and said that I now agree with the merge. I do think, though, that &quot;electrostatic levitation&quot; should not be mentioned in the article, or even it be specified that the levitation is due to electricity. Though that is possible, that is also speculation we don&#039;t have to make. We just have to document how the ability is referred to in the novel, and that the agent appears to levitate. (See my comments last year to understand why I think electrostatic levitation is wrong.)--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 01:54, 11 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;***** I&#039;ve already given my reasons and said that I now agree with the merge. I do think, though, that &quot;electrostatic levitation&quot; should not be mentioned in the article, or even it be specified that the levitation is due to electricity. Though that is possible, that is also speculation we don&#039;t have to make. We just have to document how the ability is referred to in the novel, and that the agent appears to levitate. (See my comments last year to understand why I think electrostatic levitation is wrong.)--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 01:54, 11 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;******Nothing new to say that no one else has said yet. I say go for it. [[User:Psilaq Remake|Psilaq Remake]] 20:43, 12 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;******Nothing new to say that no one else has said yet. I say go for it. [[User:Psilaq Remake|Psilaq Remake]] 20:43, 12 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;******* Everyone that has voiced in has been positive for the merger now under the present conditions; so let&#039;s getter done. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;--[[User:HiroDynoSlayer|HiroDynoSlayer]] ([[User talk:HiroDynoSlayer|talk]]) 12/15/2008 11:17 (EST)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<title>imported&gt;Psilaq Remake at 01:43, 13 December 2008</title>
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		<updated>2008-12-13T01:43:08Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;***** I&#039;ve already given my reasons and said that I now agree with the merge. I do think, though, that &quot;electrostatic levitation&quot; should not be mentioned in the article, or even it be specified that the levitation is due to electricity. Though that is possible, that is also speculation we don&#039;t have to make. We just have to document how the ability is referred to in the novel, and that the agent appears to levitate. (See my comments last year to understand why I think electrostatic levitation is wrong.)--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 01:54, 11 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;***** I&#039;ve already given my reasons and said that I now agree with the merge. I do think, though, that &quot;electrostatic levitation&quot; should not be mentioned in the article, or even it be specified that the levitation is due to electricity. Though that is possible, that is also speculation we don&#039;t have to make. We just have to document how the ability is referred to in the novel, and that the agent appears to levitate. (See my comments last year to understand why I think electrostatic levitation is wrong.)--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 01:54, 11 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<title>imported&gt;MiamiVolts: /* Merge with Electric manipulation */</title>
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		<updated>2008-12-11T06:56:40Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Merge with Electric manipulation&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*** I&#039;m all for the rename. In the &quot;first&quot; big discussion, we had never really seen evolution of abilities (Matt could only read minds, Hiro had only just learned how to teleport another person, and Peter was just coming to terms with how his ability works). So we&#039;ve learned quite a bit since then--learning which, if we had &quot;back then&quot;, would have possibly allowed for the thought that somebody with Elle&#039;s power could possibly levitate, too. That was the main argument--Elle couldn&#039;t levitate, but the agent could. Hmm. Seems almost silly now. Even sillier considering that Peter referred to the power as &quot;lightning&quot;. Regardless, I think we&#039;ve got a great opportunity now for a much better solution--Elle&#039;s assignment tracker profile refers to the power she has as &quot;electric manipulation&quot;. With fresh eyes, the agent&#039;s power sure looks and feels like Elle&#039;s power, with the exception of the levitation. But levitating by manipulating electricity sure seems to fit under the umbrella of &quot;electric manipulation&quot;. I&#039;m all for the merge. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 23:02, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*** I&#039;m all for the rename. In the &quot;first&quot; big discussion, we had never really seen evolution of abilities (Matt could only read minds, Hiro had only just learned how to teleport another person, and Peter was just coming to terms with how his ability works). So we&#039;ve learned quite a bit since then--learning which, if we had &quot;back then&quot;, would have possibly allowed for the thought that somebody with Elle&#039;s power could possibly levitate, too. That was the main argument--Elle couldn&#039;t levitate, but the agent could. Hmm. Seems almost silly now. Even sillier considering that Peter referred to the power as &quot;lightning&quot;. Regardless, I think we&#039;ve got a great opportunity now for a much better solution--Elle&#039;s assignment tracker profile refers to the power she has as &quot;electric manipulation&quot;. With fresh eyes, the agent&#039;s power sure looks and feels like Elle&#039;s power, with the exception of the levitation. But levitating by manipulating electricity sure seems to fit under the umbrella of &quot;electric manipulation&quot;. I&#039;m all for the merge. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 23:02, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;**** Agreed, as per all the above reasons. Nothing new I can really say. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 23:04, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;**** Agreed, as per all the above reasons. Nothing new I can really say. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 23:04, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;***** I&#039;ve already given my reasons that I now agree with the merge. I do think, though, that &quot;electrostatic levitation&quot; should not be mentioned in the article, or even it be specified that the levitation is due to electricity. Though that is possible, that is also speculation we don&#039;t have to make. We just have to document how the ability is referred to in the novel, and that the agent appears to levitate. (See my comments last year to understand why I think electrostatic levitation is wrong.)--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 01:54, 11 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;***** I&#039;ve already given my reasons&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt; and said&lt;/ins&gt; that I now agree with the merge. I do think, though, that &quot;electrostatic levitation&quot; should not be mentioned in the article, or even it be specified that the levitation is due to electricity. Though that is possible, that is also speculation we don&#039;t have to make. We just have to document how the ability is referred to in the novel, and that the agent appears to levitate. (See my comments last year to understand why I think electrostatic levitation is wrong.)--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 01:54, 11 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<author><name>imported&gt;MiamiVolts</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://heroeswiki.ddns.net/index.php?title=Talk:Electromagnetism&amp;diff=290189&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>imported&gt;MiamiVolts: /* Merge with Electric manipulation */</title>
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		<updated>2008-12-11T06:54:41Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Merge with Electric manipulation&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 06:54, 11 December 2008&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 130:&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*** I&#039;m all for the rename. In the &quot;first&quot; big discussion, we had never really seen evolution of abilities (Matt could only read minds, Hiro had only just learned how to teleport another person, and Peter was just coming to terms with how his ability works). So we&#039;ve learned quite a bit since then--learning which, if we had &quot;back then&quot;, would have possibly allowed for the thought that somebody with Elle&#039;s power could possibly levitate, too. That was the main argument--Elle couldn&#039;t levitate, but the agent could. Hmm. Seems almost silly now. Even sillier considering that Peter referred to the power as &quot;lightning&quot;. Regardless, I think we&#039;ve got a great opportunity now for a much better solution--Elle&#039;s assignment tracker profile refers to the power she has as &quot;electric manipulation&quot;. With fresh eyes, the agent&#039;s power sure looks and feels like Elle&#039;s power, with the exception of the levitation. But levitating by manipulating electricity sure seems to fit under the umbrella of &quot;electric manipulation&quot;. I&#039;m all for the merge. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 23:02, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*** I&#039;m all for the rename. In the &quot;first&quot; big discussion, we had never really seen evolution of abilities (Matt could only read minds, Hiro had only just learned how to teleport another person, and Peter was just coming to terms with how his ability works). So we&#039;ve learned quite a bit since then--learning which, if we had &quot;back then&quot;, would have possibly allowed for the thought that somebody with Elle&#039;s power could possibly levitate, too. That was the main argument--Elle couldn&#039;t levitate, but the agent could. Hmm. Seems almost silly now. Even sillier considering that Peter referred to the power as &quot;lightning&quot;. Regardless, I think we&#039;ve got a great opportunity now for a much better solution--Elle&#039;s assignment tracker profile refers to the power she has as &quot;electric manipulation&quot;. With fresh eyes, the agent&#039;s power sure looks and feels like Elle&#039;s power, with the exception of the levitation. But levitating by manipulating electricity sure seems to fit under the umbrella of &quot;electric manipulation&quot;. I&#039;m all for the merge. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 23:02, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;**** Agreed, as per all the above reasons. Nothing new I can really say. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 23:04, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;**** Agreed, as per all the above reasons. Nothing new I can really say. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 23:04, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;
  &lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-empty diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;***** I&#039;ve already given my reasons that I now agree with the merge. I do think, though, that &quot;electrostatic levitation&quot; should not be mentioned in the article, or even it be specified that the levitation is due to electricity. Though that is possible, that is also speculation we don&#039;t have to make. We just have to document how the ability is referred to in the novel, and that the agent appears to levitate. (See my comments last year to understand why I think electrostatic levitation is wrong.)--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 01:54, 11 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<author><name>imported&gt;MiamiVolts</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://heroeswiki.ddns.net/index.php?title=Talk:Electromagnetism&amp;diff=290188&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>imported&gt;Thrashmeister: /* Merge with Electric manipulation */</title>
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		<updated>2008-12-11T04:04:51Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Merge with Electric manipulation&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 04:04, 11 December 2008&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 129:&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;**Electricity can be manipulated to cause levitation as it has been stated above: Electrostatic Levitation for example. Elle&#039;s assignment tracker has her control index at 45%. It is possible that the Agent has more control over his ability and is able to manipulate electricity to levitate. -- [[User:Cael|Cael]] 23:42, 9 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;**Electricity can be manipulated to cause levitation as it has been stated above: Electrostatic Levitation for example. Elle&#039;s assignment tracker has her control index at 45%. It is possible that the Agent has more control over his ability and is able to manipulate electricity to levitate. -- [[User:Cael|Cael]] 23:42, 9 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*** I&#039;m all for the rename. In the &quot;first&quot; big discussion, we had never really seen evolution of abilities (Matt could only read minds, Hiro had only just learned how to teleport another person, and Peter was just coming to terms with how his ability works). So we&#039;ve learned quite a bit since then--learning which, if we had &quot;back then&quot;, would have possibly allowed for the thought that somebody with Elle&#039;s power could possibly levitate, too. That was the main argument--Elle couldn&#039;t levitate, but the agent could. Hmm. Seems almost silly now. Even sillier considering that Peter referred to the power as &quot;lightning&quot;. Regardless, I think we&#039;ve got a great opportunity now for a much better solution--Elle&#039;s assignment tracker profile refers to the power she has as &quot;electric manipulation&quot;. With fresh eyes, the agent&#039;s power sure looks and feels like Elle&#039;s power, with the exception of the levitation. But levitating by manipulating electricity sure seems to fit under the umbrella of &quot;electric manipulation&quot;. I&#039;m all for the merge. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 23:02, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*** I&#039;m all for the rename. In the &quot;first&quot; big discussion, we had never really seen evolution of abilities (Matt could only read minds, Hiro had only just learned how to teleport another person, and Peter was just coming to terms with how his ability works). So we&#039;ve learned quite a bit since then--learning which, if we had &quot;back then&quot;, would have possibly allowed for the thought that somebody with Elle&#039;s power could possibly levitate, too. That was the main argument--Elle couldn&#039;t levitate, but the agent could. Hmm. Seems almost silly now. Even sillier considering that Peter referred to the power as &quot;lightning&quot;. Regardless, I think we&#039;ve got a great opportunity now for a much better solution--Elle&#039;s assignment tracker profile refers to the power she has as &quot;electric manipulation&quot;. With fresh eyes, the agent&#039;s power sure looks and feels like Elle&#039;s power, with the exception of the levitation. But levitating by manipulating electricity sure seems to fit under the umbrella of &quot;electric manipulation&quot;. I&#039;m all for the merge. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 23:02, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;
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  &lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-empty diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;**** Agreed, as per all the above reasons. Nothing new I can really say. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 23:04, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<author><name>imported&gt;Thrashmeister</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://heroeswiki.ddns.net/index.php?title=Talk:Electromagnetism&amp;diff=290187&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>imported&gt;Ryangibsonstewart at 04:02, 11 December 2008</title>
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		<updated>2008-12-11T04:02:26Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 04:02, 11 December 2008&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 128:&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*No real one here, DO IT! The only sticking point would be the Agent levitating but that can easily be rationalized away by one of two ways; say that the agent has [[flight]] as a byproduct of electric manip and properly note this on the flight page, or (lots more speculation) say that the agent possessed flight as an outright, separate ability that he absorbed from someone.--{{User:SacValleyDweller/sig}} 22:42, 9 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*No real one here, DO IT! The only sticking point would be the Agent levitating but that can easily be rationalized away by one of two ways; say that the agent has [[flight]] as a byproduct of electric manip and properly note this on the flight page, or (lots more speculation) say that the agent possessed flight as an outright, separate ability that he absorbed from someone.--{{User:SacValleyDweller/sig}} 22:42, 9 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;**Electricity can be manipulated to cause levitation as it has been stated above: Electrostatic Levitation for example. Elle&#039;s assignment tracker has her control index at 45%. It is possible that the Agent has more control over his ability and is able to manipulate electricity to levitate. -- [[User:Cael|Cael]] 23:42, 9 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;**Electricity can be manipulated to cause levitation as it has been stated above: Electrostatic Levitation for example. Elle&#039;s assignment tracker has her control index at 45%. It is possible that the Agent has more control over his ability and is able to manipulate electricity to levitate. -- [[User:Cael|Cael]] 23:42, 9 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*** I&#039;m all for the rename. In the &quot;first&quot; big discussion, we had never really seen evolution of abilities (Matt could only read minds, Hiro had only just learned how to teleport another person, and Peter was just coming to terms with how his ability works). So we&#039;ve learned quite a bit since then--learning which, if we had &quot;back then&quot;, would have possibly allowed for the thought that somebody with Elle&#039;s power could possibly levitate, too. That was the main argument--Elle couldn&#039;t levitate, but the agent could. Hmm. Seems almost silly now. Even sillier considering that Peter referred to the power as &quot;lightning&quot;. Regardless, I think we&#039;ve got a great opportunity now for a much better solution--Elle&#039;s assignment tracker profile refers to the power she has as &quot;electric manipulation&quot;. With fresh eyes, the agent&#039;s power sure looks and feels like Elle&#039;s power, with the exception of the levitation. But levitating by manipulating electricity sure seems to fit under the umbrella of &quot;electric manipulation&quot;. I&#039;m all for the merge. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 23:02, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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