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imported>KonBot: /* Joseph */Replaced "Brave New World" with "Episode:Brave New World (Heroes)"

2015-09-17T09:05:51Z

Joseph: Replaced "Brave New World" with "Episode:Brave New World (Heroes)"

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imported>KonBot: /* Joseph */Replaced "Brave New World" with "Episode:Brave New World (Heroes)"

2015-09-17T09:05:51Z

Joseph: Replaced "Brave New World" with "Episode:Brave New World (Heroes)"

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	==Joseph==		==Joseph==
	Joseph said on the graphic novel that he can tell the prime [[Eli]] from his clones, the clones don't have a blood as shown on the series and graphic novels; they also don't have a mind (one of the clones said that only the prime have one on [[Brave New World]]); so it was safe to say that the clones also doesn't have emotions and it proves that Joseph can sense the emotion, how else can he tell the prime Eli while it was surrounded by his clones. --[[User:Darkfiremaster13\|Dark Master]] 02:01, 23 February 2010 (EST)		Joseph said on the graphic novel that he can tell the prime [[Eli]] from his clones, the clones don't have a blood as shown on the series and graphic novels; they also don't have a mind (one of the clones said that only the prime have one on [[Episode:Brave New World (Heroes)\|Brave New World]]); so it was safe to say that the clones also doesn't have emotions and it proves that Joseph can sense the emotion, how else can he tell the prime Eli while it was surrounded by his clones. --[[User:Darkfiremaster13\|Dark Master]] 02:01, 23 February 2010 (EST)
	*There could be some visual marker that Joseph learned to identify, he could have simply been bluffing (did he actually pick out the Prime?), he could have done any number of things. We don't know for certain, and therefore can't add it to his section.--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 02:11, 23 February 2010 (EST)		*There could be some visual marker that Joseph learned to identify, he could have simply been bluffing (did he actually pick out the Prime?), he could have done any number of things. We don't know for certain, and therefore can't add it to his section.--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 02:11, 23 February 2010 (EST)
	**He said to Eli that "You know I can tell the real one from the clones", I think he pin-point the prime on a time-line not shown. We haven't seen the whole past of the carnival yet and besides it fits on what another user said for empathy - to know what others feel, to relate to them --[[User:Darkfiremaster13\|Dark Master]] 02:17, 23 February 2010 (EST)		**He said to Eli that "You know I can tell the real one from the clones", I think he pin-point the prime on a time-line not shown. We haven't seen the whole past of the carnival yet and besides it fits on what another user said for empathy - to know what others feel, to relate to them --[[User:Darkfiremaster13\|Dark Master]] 02:17, 23 February 2010 (EST)

imported>Darkfiremaster13: /* Joseph */

2010-02-27T10:26:23Z

Joseph

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	***Shoudn't we expand Joseph's part? Aside from what I said above, he also used his ability on Samuel although he turn it off (said by one of the user on one of the discussion that we have before the rename. I think he also used it on Mohinder, Mohinder as we know doesn't easily abandon a research like what he does on season 3. And shouldn't we re-phrase this "How exactly he achieved this is unknown." we now know that he can control the emotions and I think someone will get confuse if they read it. This was just a proposal, since Joseph's part now was not a proper article for [[Empathic manipulation]] --[[User:Darkfiremaster13\|Dark Master]] 05:44, 26 February 2010 (EST)		***Shoudn't we expand Joseph's part? Aside from what I said above, he also used his ability on Samuel although he turn it off (said by one of the user on one of the discussion that we have before the rename. I think he also used it on Mohinder, Mohinder as we know doesn't easily abandon a research like what he does on season 3. And shouldn't we re-phrase this "How exactly he achieved this is unknown." we now know that he can control the emotions and I think someone will get confuse if they read it. This was just a proposal, since Joseph's part now was not a proper article for [[Empathic manipulation]] --[[User:Darkfiremaster13\|Dark Master]] 05:44, 26 February 2010 (EST)
	****All of those are speculation, we don't know if he was using his ability for certain. We have something in the notes section for Samuel's quote. I'll change the last sentence to make more sense.--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 15:08, 26 February 2010 (EST)		****All of those are speculation, we don't know if he was using his ability for certain. We have something in the notes section for Samuel's quote. I'll change the last sentence to make more sense.--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 15:08, 26 February 2010 (EST)
			*****Ok --[[User:Darkfiremaster13\|Dark Master]] 05:26, 27 February 2010 (EST)

imported>PJDEP: /* Joseph */

2010-02-26T20:08:14Z

Joseph

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	**He said to Eli that "You know I can tell the real one from the clones", I think he pin-point the prime on a time-line not shown. We haven't seen the whole past of the carnival yet and besides it fits on what another user said for empathy - to know what others feel, to relate to them --[[User:Darkfiremaster13\|Dark Master]] 02:17, 23 February 2010 (EST)		**He said to Eli that "You know I can tell the real one from the clones", I think he pin-point the prime on a time-line not shown. We haven't seen the whole past of the carnival yet and besides it fits on what another user said for empathy - to know what others feel, to relate to them --[[User:Darkfiremaster13\|Dark Master]] 02:17, 23 February 2010 (EST)
	***Shoudn't we expand Joseph's part? Aside from what I said above, he also used his ability on Samuel although he turn it off (said by one of the user on one of the discussion that we have before the rename. I think he also used it on Mohinder, Mohinder as we know doesn't easily abandon a research like what he does on season 3. And shouldn't we re-phrase this "How exactly he achieved this is unknown." we now know that he can control the emotions and I think someone will get confuse if they read it. This was just a proposal, since Joseph's part now was not a proper article for [[Empathic manipulation]] --[[User:Darkfiremaster13\|Dark Master]] 05:44, 26 February 2010 (EST)		***Shoudn't we expand Joseph's part? Aside from what I said above, he also used his ability on Samuel although he turn it off (said by one of the user on one of the discussion that we have before the rename. I think he also used it on Mohinder, Mohinder as we know doesn't easily abandon a research like what he does on season 3. And shouldn't we re-phrase this "How exactly he achieved this is unknown." we now know that he can control the emotions and I think someone will get confuse if they read it. This was just a proposal, since Joseph's part now was not a proper article for [[Empathic manipulation]] --[[User:Darkfiremaster13\|Dark Master]] 05:44, 26 February 2010 (EST)
			****All of those are speculation, we don't know if he was using his ability for certain. We have something in the notes section for Samuel's quote. I'll change the last sentence to make more sense.--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 15:08, 26 February 2010 (EST)

imported>Darkfiremaster13: /* Joseph */

2010-02-26T10:45:20Z

Joseph

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	*There could be some visual marker that Joseph learned to identify, he could have simply been bluffing (did he actually pick out the Prime?), he could have done any number of things. We don't know for certain, and therefore can't add it to his section.--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 02:11, 23 February 2010 (EST)		*There could be some visual marker that Joseph learned to identify, he could have simply been bluffing (did he actually pick out the Prime?), he could have done any number of things. We don't know for certain, and therefore can't add it to his section.--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 02:11, 23 February 2010 (EST)
	**He said to Eli that "You know I can tell the real one from the clones", I think he pin-point the prime on a time-line not shown. We haven't seen the whole past of the carnival yet and besides it fits on what another user said for empathy - to know what others feel, to relate to them --[[User:Darkfiremaster13\|Dark Master]] 02:17, 23 February 2010 (EST)		**He said to Eli that "You know I can tell the real one from the clones", I think he pin-point the prime on a time-line not shown. We haven't seen the whole past of the carnival yet and besides it fits on what another user said for empathy - to know what others feel, to relate to them --[[User:Darkfiremaster13\|Dark Master]] 02:17, 23 February 2010 (EST)
	***Shoudn't we expand Joseph's part? Aside from what I said above, he also used his ability on Samuel although he turn it off (said by one of the user on one of the discussion that we have before the rename. I think he also used it on Mohinder, Mohinder as we know doesn't easily abandon a research like what he does on season 3. And shouldn't we re-phrase this "How exactly he achieved this is unknown." we now know that he can control the emotions and I think someone will get confuse if they read it. This was just a proposal, since Joseph's part now was not a proper article for [[~~Emphatic~~ manipulation]] --[[User:Darkfiremaster13\|Dark Master]] 05:44, 26 February 2010 (EST)		***Shoudn't we expand Joseph's part? Aside from what I said above, he also used his ability on Samuel although he turn it off (said by one of the user on one of the discussion that we have before the rename. I think he also used it on Mohinder, Mohinder as we know doesn't easily abandon a research like what he does on season 3. And shouldn't we re-phrase this "How exactly he achieved this is unknown." we now know that he can control the emotions and I think someone will get confuse if they read it. This was just a proposal, since Joseph's part now was not a proper article for [[Empathic manipulation]] --[[User:Darkfiremaster13\|Dark Master]] 05:44, 26 February 2010 (EST)

imported>Darkfiremaster13: /* Joseph */

2010-02-26T10:45:04Z

Joseph

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	*There could be some visual marker that Joseph learned to identify, he could have simply been bluffing (did he actually pick out the Prime?), he could have done any number of things. We don't know for certain, and therefore can't add it to his section.--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 02:11, 23 February 2010 (EST)		*There could be some visual marker that Joseph learned to identify, he could have simply been bluffing (did he actually pick out the Prime?), he could have done any number of things. We don't know for certain, and therefore can't add it to his section.--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 02:11, 23 February 2010 (EST)
	**He said to Eli that "You know I can tell the real one from the clones", I think he pin-point the prime on a time-line not shown. We haven't seen the whole past of the carnival yet and besides it fits on what another user said for empathy - to know what others feel, to relate to them --[[User:Darkfiremaster13\|Dark Master]] 02:17, 23 February 2010 (EST)		**He said to Eli that "You know I can tell the real one from the clones", I think he pin-point the prime on a time-line not shown. We haven't seen the whole past of the carnival yet and besides it fits on what another user said for empathy - to know what others feel, to relate to them --[[User:Darkfiremaster13\|Dark Master]] 02:17, 23 February 2010 (EST)
	***Shoudn't we expand Joseph's part? Aside from what I said above, he also used his ability on Samuel although he turn it off (said by one of the user on one of the discussion that we have before the rename. I think he also used it on Mohinder, Mohinder as we know doesn't easily abandon a research like what he does on season 3. And shouldn't we re-phrase this "How exactly he achieved this is unknown." we now know that he can control the emotions and I think someone will get confuse if they read it. This was just a proposal, since Joseph's part now was not a proper article for [[Emphatic ~~Manipulation~~]] --[[User:Darkfiremaster13\|Dark Master]] 05:44, 26 February 2010 (EST)		***Shoudn't we expand Joseph's part? Aside from what I said above, he also used his ability on Samuel although he turn it off (said by one of the user on one of the discussion that we have before the rename. I think he also used it on Mohinder, Mohinder as we know doesn't easily abandon a research like what he does on season 3. And shouldn't we re-phrase this "How exactly he achieved this is unknown." we now know that he can control the emotions and I think someone will get confuse if they read it. This was just a proposal, since Joseph's part now was not a proper article for [[Emphatic manipulation]] --[[User:Darkfiremaster13\|Dark Master]] 05:44, 26 February 2010 (EST)

imported>Darkfiremaster13: /* Joseph */

2010-02-26T10:44:21Z

Joseph

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	*There could be some visual marker that Joseph learned to identify, he could have simply been bluffing (did he actually pick out the Prime?), he could have done any number of things. We don't know for certain, and therefore can't add it to his section.--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 02:11, 23 February 2010 (EST)		*There could be some visual marker that Joseph learned to identify, he could have simply been bluffing (did he actually pick out the Prime?), he could have done any number of things. We don't know for certain, and therefore can't add it to his section.--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 02:11, 23 February 2010 (EST)
	**He said to Eli that "You know I can tell the real one from the clones", I think he pin-point the prime on a time-line not shown. We haven't seen the whole past of the carnival yet and besides it fits on what another user said for empathy - to know what others feel, to relate to them --[[User:Darkfiremaster13\|Dark Master]] 02:17, 23 February 2010 (EST)		**He said to Eli that "You know I can tell the real one from the clones", I think he pin-point the prime on a time-line not shown. We haven't seen the whole past of the carnival yet and besides it fits on what another user said for empathy - to know what others feel, to relate to them --[[User:Darkfiremaster13\|Dark Master]] 02:17, 23 February 2010 (EST)
			***Shoudn't we expand Joseph's part? Aside from what I said above, he also used his ability on Samuel although he turn it off (said by one of the user on one of the discussion that we have before the rename. I think he also used it on Mohinder, Mohinder as we know doesn't easily abandon a research like what he does on season 3. And shouldn't we re-phrase this "How exactly he achieved this is unknown." we now know that he can control the emotions and I think someone will get confuse if they read it. This was just a proposal, since Joseph's part now was not a proper article for [[Emphatic Manipulation]] --[[User:Darkfiremaster13\|Dark Master]] 05:44, 26 February 2010 (EST)

imported>Darkfiremaster13: /* Joseph */

2010-02-23T07:30:23Z

Joseph

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	Joseph said on the graphic novel that he can tell the prime [[Eli]] from his clones, the clones don't have a blood as shown on the series and graphic novels; they also don't have a mind (one of the clones said that only the prime have one on [[Brave New World]]); so it was safe to say that the clones also doesn't have emotions and it proves that Joseph can sense the emotion, how else can he tell the prime Eli while it was surrounded by his clones. --[[User:Darkfiremaster13\|Dark Master]] 02:01, 23 February 2010 (EST)		Joseph said on the graphic novel that he can tell the prime [[Eli]] from his clones, the clones don't have a blood as shown on the series and graphic novels; they also don't have a mind (one of the clones said that only the prime have one on [[Brave New World]]); so it was safe to say that the clones also doesn't have emotions and it proves that Joseph can sense the emotion, how else can he tell the prime Eli while it was surrounded by his clones. --[[User:Darkfiremaster13\|Dark Master]] 02:01, 23 February 2010 (EST)
	*There could be some visual marker that Joseph learned to identify, he could have simply been bluffing (did he actually pick out the Prime?), he could have done any number of things. We don't know for certain, and therefore can't add it to his section.--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 02:11, 23 February 2010 (EST)		*There could be some visual marker that Joseph learned to identify, he could have simply been bluffing (did he actually pick out the Prime?), he could have done any number of things. We don't know for certain, and therefore can't add it to his section.--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 02:11, 23 February 2010 (EST)
	**He said to Eli that "You know I can tell the real one from the clones", I think he pin-point the prime on a time-line not shown. We haven't seen the whole past of the carnival yet --[[User:Darkfiremaster13\|Dark Master]] 02:17, 23 February 2010 (EST)		**He said to Eli that "You know I can tell the real one from the clones", I think he pin-point the prime on a time-line not shown. We haven't seen the whole past of the carnival yet and besides it fits on what another user said for empathy - to know what others feel, to relate to them --[[User:Darkfiremaster13\|Dark Master]] 02:17, 23 February 2010 (EST)

imported>Darkfiremaster13: /* Joseph */

2010-02-23T07:17:39Z

Joseph

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	Joseph said on the graphic novel that he can tell the prime [[Eli]] from his clones, the clones don't have a blood as shown on the series and graphic novels; they also don't have a mind (one of the clones said that only the prime have one on [[Brave New World]]); so it was safe to say that the clones also doesn't have emotions and it proves that Joseph can sense the emotion, how else can he tell the prime Eli while it was surrounded by his clones. --[[User:Darkfiremaster13\|Dark Master]] 02:01, 23 February 2010 (EST)		Joseph said on the graphic novel that he can tell the prime [[Eli]] from his clones, the clones don't have a blood as shown on the series and graphic novels; they also don't have a mind (one of the clones said that only the prime have one on [[Brave New World]]); so it was safe to say that the clones also doesn't have emotions and it proves that Joseph can sense the emotion, how else can he tell the prime Eli while it was surrounded by his clones. --[[User:Darkfiremaster13\|Dark Master]] 02:01, 23 February 2010 (EST)
	*There could be some visual marker that Joseph learned to identify, he could have simply been bluffing (did he actually pick out the Prime?), he could have done any number of things. We don't know for certain, and therefore can't add it to his section.--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 02:11, 23 February 2010 (EST)		*There could be some visual marker that Joseph learned to identify, he could have simply been bluffing (did he actually pick out the Prime?), he could have done any number of things. We don't know for certain, and therefore can't add it to his section.--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 02:11, 23 February 2010 (EST)
			**He said to Eli that "You know I can tell the real one from the clones", I think he pin-point the prime on a time-line not shown. We haven't seen the whole past of the carnival yet --[[User:Darkfiremaster13\|Dark Master]] 02:17, 23 February 2010 (EST)

imported>PJDEP: /* Joseph */

2010-02-23T07:11:45Z

Joseph

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	==Joseph==		==Joseph==
	Joseph said on the graphic novel that he can tell the prime [[Eli]] from his clones, the clones don't have a blood as shown on the series and graphic novels; they also don't have a mind (one of the clones said that only the prime have one on [[Brave New World]]); so it was safe to say that the clones also doesn't have emotions and it proves that Joseph can sense the emotion, how else can he tell the prime Eli while it was surrounded by his clones. --[[User:Darkfiremaster13\|Dark Master]] 02:01, 23 February 2010 (EST)		Joseph said on the graphic novel that he can tell the prime [[Eli]] from his clones, the clones don't have a blood as shown on the series and graphic novels; they also don't have a mind (one of the clones said that only the prime have one on [[Brave New World]]); so it was safe to say that the clones also doesn't have emotions and it proves that Joseph can sense the emotion, how else can he tell the prime Eli while it was surrounded by his clones. --[[User:Darkfiremaster13\|Dark Master]] 02:01, 23 February 2010 (EST)
			*There could be some visual marker that Joseph learned to identify, he could have simply been bluffing (did he actually pick out the Prime?), he could have done any number of things. We don't know for certain, and therefore can't add it to his section.--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 02:11, 23 February 2010 (EST)