Talk:Examples of pyrokinesis - Revision history

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	******* OK guys, my goal wasn't to strand the Pyro main-page, to be different than the others. I had hoped that you guys would see that it was a simple, yet clean and organized change, that would make things better for the future, and with that, then give me the green-light to go ahead and convert the other powers pages to match. (You didn't want me to do all of them until you were sure, right?) If you think that we could go to this new format, I would be willing to do the work (in my userSpace), for all the Powers mainpages and examples subpages, then do a big merge-move....but I see two hurdles to this. 1) it will take awhile to do, and I don't see how we could keep folks from making changes while the new versions are being all mocked up in my user area, and 2) it seems to me that you guys would rather leave things as they are, and not undergo this change anyway. It seems noone else cares, because noone but you two guys have commented either in this thread, or in the test-drafts of this in my user area. At this point, unless you guys say otherwise, I guess I will just let this idea die; and suffer along and deal with the duplicates and redundancies. I would ask this though....if things stay the same, come up with some way to document so everyone can understand, how many, and what, why, etc...are to be included on mainpages verses the subpage, and when are subpages meritted nor not. I've gotten a somewhat better idea myself, since we have been discussing this, but I'm sure the rest of the population really doesn't know what is expected, and the next time someone does new power pics, they'll get added to the mainspace instead of the subpage, and have to be followed along behind and moved and backed out. <small>--[[User:HiroDynoSlayer\|HiroDynoSlayer]] ([[User talk:HiroDynoSlayer\|talk]]) 11/1/2007 16:04 (EST)</small>		******* OK guys, my goal wasn't to strand the Pyro main-page, to be different than the others. I had hoped that you guys would see that it was a simple, yet clean and organized change, that would make things better for the future, and with that, then give me the green-light to go ahead and convert the other powers pages to match. (You didn't want me to do all of them until you were sure, right?) If you think that we could go to this new format, I would be willing to do the work (in my userSpace), for all the Powers mainpages and examples subpages, then do a big merge-move....but I see two hurdles to this. 1) it will take awhile to do, and I don't see how we could keep folks from making changes while the new versions are being all mocked up in my user area, and 2) it seems to me that you guys would rather leave things as they are, and not undergo this change anyway. It seems noone else cares, because noone but you two guys have commented either in this thread, or in the test-drafts of this in my user area. At this point, unless you guys say otherwise, I guess I will just let this idea die; and suffer along and deal with the duplicates and redundancies. I would ask this though....if things stay the same, come up with some way to document so everyone can understand, how many, and what, why, etc...are to be included on mainpages verses the subpage, and when are subpages meritted nor not. I've gotten a somewhat better idea myself, since we have been discussing this, but I'm sure the rest of the population really doesn't know what is expected, and the next time someone does new power pics, they'll get added to the mainspace instead of the subpage, and have to be followed along behind and moved and backed out. <small>--[[User:HiroDynoSlayer\|HiroDynoSlayer]] ([[User talk:HiroDynoSlayer\|talk]]) 11/1/2007 16:04 (EST)</small>
	******** I personally like it. I just don't think it should be in the mainspace until there's consensus about it. And assuming nobody objects to merging the text/images, then the changes can be carried out easily in two stages: merge the text and images, and then make the necessary changes to powers. The second stage will be a lot faster and easier than you think, since it can mostly be cn'pd from page to page with minor changes. As for documentation, the only thing that would really work is a comment on each power page, to the effect of ONLY LIST 12 EXAMPLES IN THIS SECTION. ADD OTHERS TO (name of example page). And you've seen how well other such comments work...--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:14, 1 November 2007 (EDT)		******** I personally like it. I just don't think it should be in the mainspace until there's consensus about it. And assuming nobody objects to merging the text/images, then the changes can be carried out easily in two stages: merge the text and images, and then make the necessary changes to powers. The second stage will be a lot faster and easier than you think, since it can mostly be cn'pd from page to page with minor changes. As for documentation, the only thing that would really work is a comment on each power page, to the effect of ONLY LIST 12 EXAMPLES IN THIS SECTION. ADD OTHERS TO (name of example page). And you've seen how well other such comments work...--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:14, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
	********* Merging text and images is a fine idea. I hadn't thought about the examples for which no image exists; using ~~[[:~~Image:neededimage.jpg]] is a good idea. A note on the examples section is about the only thing I can think of. I personally don't mind even if there are a few more than "allowed", but I just try to go through and give each page a haircut every once in awhile. But I really don't like the idea of a powers page without images, or an examples page that is either non-exhaustive or unneeded. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:55, 1 November 2007 (EDT)		********* Merging text and images is a fine idea. I hadn't thought about the examples for which no image exists; using Image:neededimage.jpg is a good idea. A note on the examples section is about the only thing I can think of. I personally don't mind even if there are a few more than "allowed", but I just try to go through and give each page a haircut every once in awhile. But I really don't like the idea of a powers page without images, or an examples page that is either non-exhaustive or unneeded. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:55, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
	* So what should the plan of attack/approach be? Merging the text and images on both the powers page and (if one exists) the Examples of powers sub-page? I'll be glad to get starting doing this, but want to be sure there is consensus. <small>--[[User:HiroDynoSlayer\|HiroDynoSlayer]] ([[User talk:HiroDynoSlayer\|talk]]) 11/2/2007 10:43 (EST)</small>		* So what should the plan of attack/approach be? Merging the text and images on both the powers page and (if one exists) the Examples of powers sub-page? I'll be glad to get starting doing this, but want to be sure there is consensus. <small>--[[User:HiroDynoSlayer\|HiroDynoSlayer]] ([[User talk:HiroDynoSlayer\|talk]]) 11/2/2007 10:43 (EST)</small>
	** That'd be great if you wanted to do that. Thanks so much, HDS. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:05, 30 November 2007 (EST)		** That'd be great if you wanted to do that. Thanks so much, HDS. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:05, 30 November 2007 (EST)

imported>HiroDynoSlayer: /* New format */ more merging....11 left to go.

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 ** Personally, I like merging the sections.  It gets rid of a pretty huge redundancy.  And examples without images should have images added anyway.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 19:59, 12 November 2007 (EST)
 I think that this article should be '''kept''' based on the articles that [[User:HiroDynoSlayer|HiroDynoSlayer]] mentioned. I do think it might need some textual information added to it as well. --[[User:Pinkkeith|Pinkkeith]] 10:14, 21 November 2007 (EST)
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imported>Ryangibsonstewart at 03:05, 1 December 2007

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	********* Merging text and images is a fine idea. I hadn't thought about the examples for which no image exists; using [[:Image:neededimage.jpg]] is a good idea. A note on the examples section is about the only thing I can think of. I personally don't mind even if there are a few more than "allowed", but I just try to go through and give each page a haircut every once in awhile. But I really don't like the idea of a powers page without images, or an examples page that is either non-exhaustive or unneeded. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:55, 1 November 2007 (EDT)		********* Merging text and images is a fine idea. I hadn't thought about the examples for which no image exists; using [[:Image:neededimage.jpg]] is a good idea. A note on the examples section is about the only thing I can think of. I personally don't mind even if there are a few more than "allowed", but I just try to go through and give each page a haircut every once in awhile. But I really don't like the idea of a powers page without images, or an examples page that is either non-exhaustive or unneeded. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:55, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
	* So what should the plan of attack/approach be? Merging the text and images on both the powers page and (if one exists) the Examples of powers sub-page? I'll be glad to get starting doing this, but want to be sure there is consensus. <small>--[[User:HiroDynoSlayer\|HiroDynoSlayer]] ([[User talk:HiroDynoSlayer\|talk]]) 11/2/2007 10:43 (EST)</small>		* So what should the plan of attack/approach be? Merging the text and images on both the powers page and (if one exists) the Examples of powers sub-page? I'll be glad to get starting doing this, but want to be sure there is consensus. <small>--[[User:HiroDynoSlayer\|HiroDynoSlayer]] ([[User talk:HiroDynoSlayer\|talk]]) 11/2/2007 10:43 (EST)</small>
			** That'd be great if you wanted to do that. Thanks so much, HDS. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:05, 30 November 2007 (EST)
	* Delete. --{{User:Heroe/sig}} 21:58, 30 November 2007 (EST)		* Delete. --{{User:Heroe/sig}} 21:58, 30 November 2007 (EST)

imported>Heroe at 02:58, 1 December 2007

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	********* Merging text and images is a fine idea. I hadn't thought about the examples for which no image exists; using [[:Image:neededimage.jpg]] is a good idea. A note on the examples section is about the only thing I can think of. I personally don't mind even if there are a few more than "allowed", but I just try to go through and give each page a haircut every once in awhile. But I really don't like the idea of a powers page without images, or an examples page that is either non-exhaustive or unneeded. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:55, 1 November 2007 (EDT)		********* Merging text and images is a fine idea. I hadn't thought about the examples for which no image exists; using [[:Image:neededimage.jpg]] is a good idea. A note on the examples section is about the only thing I can think of. I personally don't mind even if there are a few more than "allowed", but I just try to go through and give each page a haircut every once in awhile. But I really don't like the idea of a powers page without images, or an examples page that is either non-exhaustive or unneeded. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:55, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
	* So what should the plan of attack/approach be? Merging the text and images on both the powers page and (if one exists) the Examples of powers sub-page? I'll be glad to get starting doing this, but want to be sure there is consensus. <small>--[[User:HiroDynoSlayer\|HiroDynoSlayer]] ([[User talk:HiroDynoSlayer\|talk]]) 11/2/2007 10:43 (EST)</small>		* So what should the plan of attack/approach be? Merging the text and images on both the powers page and (if one exists) the Examples of powers sub-page? I'll be glad to get starting doing this, but want to be sure there is consensus. <small>--[[User:HiroDynoSlayer\|HiroDynoSlayer]] ([[User talk:HiroDynoSlayer\|talk]]) 11/2/2007 10:43 (EST)</small>
			* Delete. --{{User:Heroe/sig}} 21:58, 30 November 2007 (EST)

	== New format ==		== New format ==

imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* please don't do this to me */

2007-11-27T00:54:22Z

please don't do this to me

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	i don't agree and it that page will be delete tell me where i can find the images		i don't agree and it that page will be delete tell me where i can find the images
	* All the images available on this page are also available on the [[Pyrokinesis]] page. {{User:Lulu/sig}}		* All the images available on this page are also available on the [[Pyrokinesis]] page. {{User:Lulu/sig}}
			**Right, the point of the delete is simply that there aren't enough images to warrant a page of its own. Since we only have six examples/images, they should reside on [[pyrokinesis]]. Our policy is generally to only create examples pages after there are 12 examples. We're not getting rid of the examples themselves, just the page dedicated to them. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 19:54, 26 November 2007 (EST)

imported>Lulu: /* please don't do this to me */ fix sig

2007-11-26T23:54:27Z

please don't do this to me: fix sig

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	i don't agree and it that page will be delete tell me where i can find the images		i don't agree and it that page will be delete tell me where i can find the images
	* All the images available on this page are also available on the [[Pyrokinesis]] page. {{User:~~Sig/~~Lulu}}		* All the images available on this page are also available on the [[Pyrokinesis]] page. {{User:Lulu/sig}}

imported>Lulu: /* please don't do this to me */

2007-11-26T23:54:08Z

please don't do this to me

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			* All the images available on this page are also available on the [[Pyrokinesis]] page. {{User:Sig/Lulu}}

imported>Sylar007: New section: please don't do this to me

2007-11-26T23:44:56Z

New section: please don't do this to me

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	** Personally, I like merging the sections. It gets rid of a pretty huge redundancy. And examples without images should have images added anyway.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 19:59, 12 November 2007 (EST)		** Personally, I like merging the sections. It gets rid of a pretty huge redundancy. And examples without images should have images added anyway.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 19:59, 12 November 2007 (EST)
	I think that this article should be '''kept''' based on the articles that [[User:HiroDynoSlayer\|HiroDynoSlayer]] mentioned. I do think it might need some textual information added to it as well. --[[User:Pinkkeith\|Pinkkeith]] 10:14, 21 November 2007 (EST)		I think that this article should be '''kept''' based on the articles that [[User:HiroDynoSlayer\|HiroDynoSlayer]] mentioned. I do think it might need some textual information added to it as well. --[[User:Pinkkeith\|Pinkkeith]] 10:14, 21 November 2007 (EST)

			== please don't do this to me ==

			i don't agree and it that page will be delete tell me where i can find the images

imported>Pinkkeith at 15:14, 21 November 2007

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	* I disagree with the idea of merging the examples and images in the "Example" pages. Doing that on the main page looks nice, but it doesn't work so well on the example pages. The descriptions have to be shortened for the image captions to look better, and most of the descriptions shouldn't be shortened. Not only that, some of the examples don't have representative images to go with them. Anyone else agree?--[[User:Ice Vision\|Ice Vision]] 19:42, 12 November 2007 (EST)		* I disagree with the idea of merging the examples and images in the "Example" pages. Doing that on the main page looks nice, but it doesn't work so well on the example pages. The descriptions have to be shortened for the image captions to look better, and most of the descriptions shouldn't be shortened. Not only that, some of the examples don't have representative images to go with them. Anyone else agree?--[[User:Ice Vision\|Ice Vision]] 19:42, 12 November 2007 (EST)
	** Personally, I like merging the sections. It gets rid of a pretty huge redundancy. And examples without images should have images added anyway.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 19:59, 12 November 2007 (EST)		** Personally, I like merging the sections. It gets rid of a pretty huge redundancy. And examples without images should have images added anyway.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 19:59, 12 November 2007 (EST)
			I think that this article should be '''kept''' based on the articles that [[User:HiroDynoSlayer\|HiroDynoSlayer]] mentioned. I do think it might need some textual information added to it as well. --[[User:Pinkkeith\|Pinkkeith]] 10:14, 21 November 2007 (EST)