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imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* "Supreme Beings" */

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imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* "Supreme Beings" */

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	* Oh, I know that. The edit I meant was, at some point the opening paragraph came to read, "''Some characters believe that there is/are a '''Supreme Being''' or Beings from which they get their powers.''" It sounds like a conscious effort to avoid mentioning God, despite, as you said, God being brought up on a semi-regular basis. -- [[User:Caswin\|Caswin]] 10:24, 25 November 2010 (EST)		* Oh, I know that. The edit I meant was, at some point the opening paragraph came to read, "''Some characters believe that there is/are a '''Supreme Being''' or Beings from which they get their powers.''" It sounds like a conscious effort to avoid mentioning God, despite, as you said, God being brought up on a semi-regular basis. -- [[User:Caswin\|Caswin]] 10:24, 25 November 2010 (EST)
	* I would say it's worth changing back... except for one other thing: I can't call any specific references to characters believing they received their powers "from a god" ''or'' "a Supreme Being", and only a small handful of references are listed on this page. It sounds like an oversimplification of the subject, and an awkward one at that. Any thoughts? - [[User:Caswin\|Caswin]] 13:42, 11 February 2011 (EST)		* I would say it's worth changing back... except for one other thing: I can't call any specific references to characters believing they received their powers "from a god" ''or'' "a Supreme Being", and only a small handful of references are listed on this page. It sounds like an oversimplification of the subject, and an awkward one at that. Any thoughts? - [[User:Caswin\|Caswin]] 13:42, 11 February 2011 (EST)
			** In ''[[Godsend]]'', the Haitian says, "What you can do, what I can do, that is God." In ''[[Company Man]]'', Ted, Claire, and Sandra discuss whether or not "God made me this way." In ''[[Kindred]]'', Hiro and Adam (who is Kensei at the time) discuss the idea that some people believe their powers are "a gift from God." In ''[[Dying of the Light]]'', Nathan says that he believed his ability was a gift from God. I don't know anywhere in the ''Heroes'' universe that the term "Supreme Being" is used. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 03:34, 13 February 2011 (EST)

imported>Caswin: /* "Supreme Beings" */

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	* Which edit are you talking about? Characters often talk about God in some form or another. In fact, one of the episodes was even called ''[[Godsend]]''. Off the top of my head, I remember scenes in which Kaito and Hiro were talking about having the power of gods, but that power does not entitle them to play God. I remember Claire and the Haitian talking about their abilities being from God. I'm pretty sure there were some Mohinderlogues that talked about God. I'd have to dig to find specific references, though. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 11:00, 21 November 2010 (EST)		* Which edit are you talking about? Characters often talk about God in some form or another. In fact, one of the episodes was even called ''[[Godsend]]''. Off the top of my head, I remember scenes in which Kaito and Hiro were talking about having the power of gods, but that power does not entitle them to play God. I remember Claire and the Haitian talking about their abilities being from God. I'm pretty sure there were some Mohinderlogues that talked about God. I'd have to dig to find specific references, though. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 11:00, 21 November 2010 (EST)
	* Oh, I know that. The edit I meant was, at some point the opening paragraph came to read, "''Some characters believe that there is/are a '''Supreme Being''' or Beings from which they get their powers.''" It sounds like a conscious effort to avoid mentioning God, despite, as you said, God being brought up on a semi-regular basis. -- [[User:Caswin\|Caswin]] 10:24, 25 November 2010 (EST)		* Oh, I know that. The edit I meant was, at some point the opening paragraph came to read, "''Some characters believe that there is/are a '''Supreme Being''' or Beings from which they get their powers.''" It sounds like a conscious effort to avoid mentioning God, despite, as you said, God being brought up on a semi-regular basis. -- [[User:Caswin\|Caswin]] 10:24, 25 November 2010 (EST)
			* I would say it's worth changing back... except for one other thing: I can't call any specific references to characters believing they received their powers "from a god" ''or'' "a Supreme Being", and only a small handful of references are listed on this page. It sounds like an oversimplification of the subject, and an awkward one at that. Any thoughts? - [[User:Caswin\|Caswin]] 13:42, 11 February 2011 (EST)

imported>Caswin: /* "Supreme Beings" */

2010-11-25T15:24:30Z

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	The edit (from about a year ago) seems awkward to me. Does anyone in ''Heroes'' even refer to a "Supreme Being" as such? It's been a while, but I don't remember anything like that. -- [[User:Caswin\|Caswin]] 21:11, 14 November 2010 (EST)		The edit (from about a year ago) seems awkward to me. Does anyone in ''Heroes'' even refer to a "Supreme Being" as such? It's been a while, but I don't remember anything like that. -- [[User:Caswin\|Caswin]] 21:11, 14 November 2010 (EST)
	* Which edit are you talking about? Characters often talk about God in some form or another. In fact, one of the episodes was even called ''[[Godsend]]''. Off the top of my head, I remember scenes in which Kaito and Hiro were talking about having the power of gods, but that power does not entitle them to play God. I remember Claire and the Haitian talking about their abilities being from God. I'm pretty sure there were some Mohinderlogues that talked about God. I'd have to dig to find specific references, though. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 11:00, 21 November 2010 (EST)		* Which edit are you talking about? Characters often talk about God in some form or another. In fact, one of the episodes was even called ''[[Godsend]]''. Off the top of my head, I remember scenes in which Kaito and Hiro were talking about having the power of gods, but that power does not entitle them to play God. I remember Claire and the Haitian talking about their abilities being from God. I'm pretty sure there were some Mohinderlogues that talked about God. I'd have to dig to find specific references, though. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 11:00, 21 November 2010 (EST)
			* Oh, I know that. The edit I meant was, at some point the opening paragraph came to read, "''Some characters believe that there is/are a '''Supreme Being''' or Beings from which they get their powers.''" It sounds like a conscious effort to avoid mentioning God, despite, as you said, God being brought up on a semi-regular basis. -- [[User:Caswin\|Caswin]] 10:24, 25 November 2010 (EST)

imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* "Supreme Beings" */

2010-11-21T16:00:22Z

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	The edit (from about a year ago) seems awkward to me. Does anyone in ''Heroes'' even refer to a "Supreme Being" as such? It's been a while, but I don't remember anything like that. -- [[User:Caswin\|Caswin]] 21:11, 14 November 2010 (EST)		The edit (from about a year ago) seems awkward to me. Does anyone in ''Heroes'' even refer to a "Supreme Being" as such? It's been a while, but I don't remember anything like that. -- [[User:Caswin\|Caswin]] 21:11, 14 November 2010 (EST)
			* Which edit are you talking about? Characters often talk about God in some form or another. In fact, one of the episodes was even called ''[[Godsend]]''. Off the top of my head, I remember scenes in which Kaito and Hiro were talking about having the power of gods, but that power does not entitle them to play God. I remember Claire and the Haitian talking about their abilities being from God. I'm pretty sure there were some Mohinderlogues that talked about God. I'd have to dig to find specific references, though. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 11:00, 21 November 2010 (EST)

imported>Caswin: /* "Supreme Beings" */ new section

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	Shouldn't there be a page for Christianity? (The Haitian, Maya, the Petrellis, etc.) --[[User:Boycool42\|Boycool42]] 18:38, 22 February 2010 (EST)		Shouldn't there be a page for Christianity? (The Haitian, Maya, the Petrellis, etc.) --[[User:Boycool42\|Boycool42]] 18:38, 22 February 2010 (EST)
	*See [[User:Boycool42/Christianity\|here]].--''<small>[[User:Boycool42\|<font color=blue>BOYCOOL</font>]]</small>'' -- '''''<big>[[User talk:Boycool42\|<font color=black>THE END IS NIGH.</font>]]</big>''''' 17:52, 2 April 2010 (EDT)		*See [[User:Boycool42/Christianity\|here]].--''<small>[[User:Boycool42\|<font color=blue>BOYCOOL</font>]]</small>'' -- '''''<big>[[User talk:Boycool42\|<font color=black>THE END IS NIGH.</font>]]</big>''''' 17:52, 2 April 2010 (EDT)

			== "Supreme Beings" ==

			The edit (from about a year ago) seems awkward to me. Does anyone in ''Heroes'' even refer to a "Supreme Being" as such? It's been a while, but I don't remember anything like that. -- [[User:Caswin\|Caswin]] 21:11, 14 November 2010 (EST)

imported>Boycool42: /* Christianity */

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Christianity

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	Shouldn't there be a page for Christianity? (The Haitian, Maya, the Petrellis, etc.) --[[User:Boycool42\|Boycool42]] 18:38, 22 February 2010 (EST)		Shouldn't there be a page for Christianity? (The Haitian, Maya, the Petrellis, etc.) --[[User:Boycool42\|Boycool42]] 18:38, 22 February 2010 (EST)
			*See [[User:Boycool42/Christianity\|here]].--''<small>[[User:Boycool42\|<font color=blue>BOYCOOL</font>]]</small>'' -- '''''<big>[[User talk:Boycool42\|<font color=black>THE END IS NIGH.</font>]]</big>''''' 17:52, 2 April 2010 (EDT)

imported>Boycool42 at 23:38, 22 February 2010

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	Is there a section for the web episodes? There are some mentions in [[Destiny]]. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] 05:38, 12 November 2008 (EST)		Is there a section for the web episodes? There are some mentions in [[Destiny]]. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] 05:38, 12 November 2008 (EST)

			== Christianity ==

			Shouldn't there be a page for Christianity? (The Haitian, Maya, the Petrellis, etc.) --[[User:Boycool42\|Boycool42]] 18:38, 22 February 2010 (EST)

imported>Intuitive Empath: /* Web episodes */ new section

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Web episodes: new section

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	* Just as some pre-Season Three examples--[[Guillame]] felt his power came from the [[Loa]]. Maya believes her power comes from the Devil. Both are higher powers. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 11:11, 1 October 2008 (EDT)		* Just as some pre-Season Three examples--[[Guillame]] felt his power came from the [[Loa]]. Maya believes her power comes from the Devil. Both are higher powers. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 11:11, 1 October 2008 (EDT)
	** I really don't think it is a theme of the show up until this season, in my opinoin. Again, I don't think that this article should be removed at all (I didn't ask for it to be done so), I just think that the point of the article needs to be clarified. I think that some believe that it is about the reference of the Christian God, but I thought it was about religious references in the show (or theme in the show depending on your point of view). As far as Maya is concerned, yes she did believe that her power was a curse of the devil. Yet, once her brother showed her a book showing there was a scientific reasoning behind why she has the ability that she does, her faith was broken. The entire theme of Maya during season 2 was her searching for this cure. It was not her devotion and prayer to some higher power asking for it to be taken away from her. --[[User:Pinkkeith\|Pinkkeith]] 11:28, 1 October 2008 (EDT)		** I really don't think it is a theme of the show up until this season, in my opinoin. Again, I don't think that this article should be removed at all (I didn't ask for it to be done so), I just think that the point of the article needs to be clarified. I think that some believe that it is about the reference of the Christian God, but I thought it was about religious references in the show (or theme in the show depending on your point of view). As far as Maya is concerned, yes she did believe that her power was a curse of the devil. Yet, once her brother showed her a book showing there was a scientific reasoning behind why she has the ability that she does, her faith was broken. The entire theme of Maya during season 2 was her searching for this cure. It was not her devotion and prayer to some higher power asking for it to be taken away from her. --[[User:Pinkkeith\|Pinkkeith]] 11:28, 1 October 2008 (EDT)

			== Web episodes ==

			Is there a section for the web episodes? There are some mentions in [[Destiny]]. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] 05:38, 12 November 2008 (EST)

imported>Pinkkeith: /* Purpose of article */ formating

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Purpose of article: formating

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	**** Okay, I noticed you changed it back to "higher power" again. There is reference to "supernatural" when people talk about "god". Perhaps you're more comfortable if we just use the word god then? They certianly reference that. --[[User:Pinkkeith\|Pinkkeith]] 16:54, 29 September 2008 (EDT)		**** Okay, I noticed you changed it back to "higher power" again. There is reference to "supernatural" when people talk about "god". Perhaps you're more comfortable if we just use the word god then? They certianly reference that. --[[User:Pinkkeith\|Pinkkeith]] 16:54, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
	* Just as some pre-Season Three examples--[[Guillame]] felt his power came from the [[Loa]]. Maya believes her power comes from the Devil. Both are higher powers. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 11:11, 1 October 2008 (EDT)		* Just as some pre-Season Three examples--[[Guillame]] felt his power came from the [[Loa]]. Maya believes her power comes from the Devil. Both are higher powers. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 11:11, 1 October 2008 (EDT)
	** I really don't think it is a theme of the show up until this season, in my opinoin. Again, I don't think that this article should be removed at all (I didn't ask for it to be done so), I just think that the point of the article needs to be clarified. I think that some believe that it is about the reference of the Christian God, but I thought it was about religious references in the show (or theme in the show depending on your point of view).		** I really don't think it is a theme of the show up until this season, in my opinoin. Again, I don't think that this article should be removed at all (I didn't ask for it to be done so), I just think that the point of the article needs to be clarified. I think that some believe that it is about the reference of the Christian God, but I thought it was about religious references in the show (or theme in the show depending on your point of view). As far as Maya is concerned, yes she did believe that her power was a curse of the devil. Yet, once her brother showed her a book showing there was a scientific reasoning behind why she has the ability that she does, her faith was broken. The entire theme of Maya during season 2 was her searching for this cure. It was not her devotion and prayer to some higher power asking for it to be taken away from her. --[[User:Pinkkeith\|Pinkkeith]] 11:28, 1 October 2008 (EDT)
	As far as Maya is concerned, yes she did believe that her power was a curse of the devil. Yet, once her brother showed her a book showing there was a scientific reasoning behind why she has the ability that she does, her faith was broken. The entire theme of Maya during season 2 was her searching for this cure. It was not her devotion and prayer to some higher power asking for it to be taken away from her. --[[User:Pinkkeith\|Pinkkeith]] 11:28, 1 October 2008 (EDT)