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imported>Salvo: /* So...there are two? */

2007-02-22T19:17:30Z

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	** I noticed that too :D Pretty big Oops! --[[User:Frantik\|Frantik]] ([[User talk:Frantik\|Talk]]) 20:29, 20 February 2007 (EST)		** I noticed that too :D Pretty big Oops! --[[User:Frantik\|Frantik]] ([[User talk:Frantik\|Talk]]) 20:29, 20 February 2007 (EST)
	** [[Image:Seeing_double.jpg\|thumb\|right\|Two very similar paintings stand side by side in Isaac's apartment]]Hmm I also noticed two of the same street corner paintings.. either the prop guys were out to lunch or there could be two copies. --[[User:Frantik\|Frantik]] ([[User talk:Frantik\|Talk]]) 19:54, 21 February 2007 (EST)		** [[Image:Seeing_double.jpg\|thumb\|right\|Two very similar paintings stand side by side in Isaac's apartment]]Hmm I also noticed two of the same street corner paintings.. either the prop guys were out to lunch or there could be two copies. --[[User:Frantik\|Frantik]] ([[User talk:Frantik\|Talk]]) 19:54, 21 February 2007 (EST)
			** A second Copy of the Painting may be a plot Point, since the Original has been damaged. [[User:Salvo\|Salvo]] 14:17, 22 February 2007 (EST)

imported>Frantik: /* So is this the painting of the event at the museum? */

2007-02-22T10:58:25Z

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	:::: Hiro's blog also calls attention to the fact that the sword in the painting is unsheathed. That smells like a deliberate hint. Obviously it's far from cannon. But, at least it indicates that our hesitation about calling it definitely fulfilled is justified.--[[User:E rowe\|E rowe]] 21:42, 20 February 2007 (EST)		:::: Hiro's blog also calls attention to the fact that the sword in the painting is unsheathed. That smells like a deliberate hint. Obviously it's far from cannon. But, at least it indicates that our hesitation about calling it definitely fulfilled is justified.--[[User:E rowe\|E rowe]] 21:42, 20 February 2007 (EST)
	::::: Good changes to the speculation on the prophecy being fulfilled. It sounds great now. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 01:22, 21 February 2007 (EST)		::::: Good changes to the speculation on the prophecy being fulfilled. It sounds great now. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 01:22, 21 February 2007 (EST)
			:::::: Cheers :).. Also I noticed just now that the painting is prominently shown about 1 minute after Hiro faces off with the model, in the very next scene! --[[User:Frantik\|Frantik]] ([[User talk:Frantik\|Talk]]) 05:58, 22 February 2007 (EST)

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imported>Frantik: /* So...there are two? */

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	*Seems highly unlikely that he would have painted two. The painting is not for sale, so he has no reason to paint a second. It's possible, but it's much more likely that they just filled his studio with prop paintings. I say it's a production error. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 03:01, 20 February 2007 (EST)		*Seems highly unlikely that he would have painted two. The painting is not for sale, so he has no reason to paint a second. It's possible, but it's much more likely that they just filled his studio with prop paintings. I say it's a production error. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 03:01, 20 February 2007 (EST)
	** I noticed that too :D Pretty big Oops! --[[User:Frantik\|Frantik]] ([[User talk:Frantik\|Talk]]) 20:29, 20 February 2007 (EST)		** I noticed that too :D Pretty big Oops! --[[User:Frantik\|Frantik]] ([[User talk:Frantik\|Talk]]) 20:29, 20 February 2007 (EST)
			** [[Image:Seeing_double.jpg\|thumb\|right\|Two very similar paintings stand side by side in Isaac's apartment]]Hmm I also noticed two of the same street corner paintings.. either the prop guys were out to lunch or there could be two copies. --[[User:Frantik\|Frantik]] ([[User talk:Frantik\|Talk]]) 19:54, 21 February 2007 (EST)

imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* So is this the painting of the event at the museum? */

2007-02-21T06:22:36Z

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	:::I tend to agree with you. The reasons it's still "possibly" unfulfilled are stated in the article: "He was holding a sheathed replica with no blade inside, while the painting appears to show a real, unsheathed blade." But I think it's pretty arbitrary, so it can be changed if you want. However, the notes exist for that very reason: to provide the "extra" information about the painting. It never says in the history that the painting's prophecy is fulfilled or unfulfilled -- it just states the facts. The notes are the proper space to mention its status. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 21:34, 20 February 2007 (EST)		:::I tend to agree with you. The reasons it's still "possibly" unfulfilled are stated in the article: "He was holding a sheathed replica with no blade inside, while the painting appears to show a real, unsheathed blade." But I think it's pretty arbitrary, so it can be changed if you want. However, the notes exist for that very reason: to provide the "extra" information about the painting. It never says in the history that the painting's prophecy is fulfilled or unfulfilled -- it just states the facts. The notes are the proper space to mention its status. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 21:34, 20 February 2007 (EST)
	:::: Hiro's blog also calls attention to the fact that the sword in the painting is unsheathed. That smells like a deliberate hint. Obviously it's far from cannon. But, at least it indicates that our hesitation about calling it definitely fulfilled is justified.--[[User:E rowe\|E rowe]] 21:42, 20 February 2007 (EST)		:::: Hiro's blog also calls attention to the fact that the sword in the painting is unsheathed. That smells like a deliberate hint. Obviously it's far from cannon. But, at least it indicates that our hesitation about calling it definitely fulfilled is justified.--[[User:E rowe\|E rowe]] 21:42, 20 February 2007 (EST)
			::::: Good changes to the speculation on the prophecy being fulfilled. It sounds great now. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 01:22, 21 February 2007 (EST)

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imported>E rowe: /* So is this the painting of the event at the museum? */

2007-02-21T02:42:39Z

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	::I'm not clear on why this prophecy is only "possibly" fufilled while many other realized prophecies do not exactly match their realizations. For example, the floating purse painting has no direct realization since the purse is never seen floating; rather it just disappears while Peter is holding it. Also, in the painting of Peter by the taxicab, his left leg is out while his hand is to his head. In the realization, his right foot is out with his hands in his lap. Seems like these things are just as (in)significant as a covered or uncovered blade shrug --[[User:Frantik\|Frantik]] ([[User talk:Frantik\|Talk]]) 21:16, 20 February 2007 (EST)		::I'm not clear on why this prophecy is only "possibly" fufilled while many other realized prophecies do not exactly match their realizations. For example, the floating purse painting has no direct realization since the purse is never seen floating; rather it just disappears while Peter is holding it. Also, in the painting of Peter by the taxicab, his left leg is out while his hand is to his head. In the realization, his right foot is out with his hands in his lap. Seems like these things are just as (in)significant as a covered or uncovered blade shrug --[[User:Frantik\|Frantik]] ([[User talk:Frantik\|Talk]]) 21:16, 20 February 2007 (EST)
	:::I tend to agree with you. The reasons it's still "possibly" unfulfilled are stated in the article: "He was holding a sheathed replica with no blade inside, while the painting appears to show a real, unsheathed blade." But I think it's pretty arbitrary, so it can be changed if you want. However, the notes exist for that very reason: to provide the "extra" information about the painting. It never says in the history that the painting's prophecy is fulfilled or unfulfilled -- it just states the facts. The notes are the proper space to mention its status. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 21:34, 20 February 2007 (EST)		:::I tend to agree with you. The reasons it's still "possibly" unfulfilled are stated in the article: "He was holding a sheathed replica with no blade inside, while the painting appears to show a real, unsheathed blade." But I think it's pretty arbitrary, so it can be changed if you want. However, the notes exist for that very reason: to provide the "extra" information about the painting. It never says in the history that the painting's prophecy is fulfilled or unfulfilled -- it just states the facts. The notes are the proper space to mention its status. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 21:34, 20 February 2007 (EST)
			:::: Hiro's blog also calls attention to the fact that the sword in the painting is unsheathed. That smells like a deliberate hint. Obviously it's far from cannon. But, at least it indicates that our hesitation about calling it definitely fulfilled is justified.--[[User:E rowe\|E rowe]] 21:42, 20 February 2007 (EST)

	== So...there are two? ==		== So...there are two? ==

imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* So is this the painting of the event at the museum? */

2007-02-21T02:34:43Z

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	::The latest [http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=9485 CBR interview] seems to indicate that the prophecy was fulfilled. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 18:18, 1 February 2007 (EST)		::The latest [http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=9485 CBR interview] seems to indicate that the prophecy was fulfilled. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 18:18, 1 February 2007 (EST)
	::I'm not clear on why this prophecy is only "possibly" fufilled while many other realized prophecies do not exactly match their realizations. For example, the floating purse painting has no direct realization since the purse is never seen floating; rather it just disappears while Peter is holding it. Also, in the painting of Peter by the taxicab, his left leg is out while his hand is to his head. In the realization, his right foot is out with his hands in his lap. Seems like these things are just as (in)significant as a covered or uncovered blade shrug --[[User:Frantik\|Frantik]] ([[User talk:Frantik\|Talk]]) 21:16, 20 February 2007 (EST)		::I'm not clear on why this prophecy is only "possibly" fufilled while many other realized prophecies do not exactly match their realizations. For example, the floating purse painting has no direct realization since the purse is never seen floating; rather it just disappears while Peter is holding it. Also, in the painting of Peter by the taxicab, his left leg is out while his hand is to his head. In the realization, his right foot is out with his hands in his lap. Seems like these things are just as (in)significant as a covered or uncovered blade shrug --[[User:Frantik\|Frantik]] ([[User talk:Frantik\|Talk]]) 21:16, 20 February 2007 (EST)
			:::I tend to agree with you. The reasons it's still "possibly" unfulfilled are stated in the article: "He was holding a sheathed replica with no blade inside, while the painting appears to show a real, unsheathed blade." But I think it's pretty arbitrary, so it can be changed if you want. However, the notes exist for that very reason: to provide the "extra" information about the painting. It never says in the history that the painting's prophecy is fulfilled or unfulfilled -- it just states the facts. The notes are the proper space to mention its status. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 21:34, 20 February 2007 (EST)

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imported>Frantik: /* So is this the painting of the event at the museum? */

2007-02-21T02:16:31Z

So is this the painting of the event at the museum?

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	:At this point, it's impossible to be sure. Hiro was posed correctly, but it does look like he has a drawn blade in the painting. The only confirmation would be to see Hiro run into a live dinosaur at a future date. --[[User:Ted C\|Ted C]] 15:10, 1 February 2007 (EST)		:At this point, it's impossible to be sure. Hiro was posed correctly, but it does look like he has a drawn blade in the painting. The only confirmation would be to see Hiro run into a live dinosaur at a future date. --[[User:Ted C\|Ted C]] 15:10, 1 February 2007 (EST)
	::The latest [http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=9485 CBR interview] seems to indicate that the prophecy was fulfilled. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 18:18, 1 February 2007 (EST)		::The latest [http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=9485 CBR interview] seems to indicate that the prophecy was fulfilled. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 18:18, 1 February 2007 (EST)
			::I'm not clear on why this prophecy is only "possibly" fufilled while many other realized prophecies do not exactly match their realizations. For example, the floating purse painting has no direct realization since the purse is never seen floating; rather it just disappears while Peter is holding it. Also, in the painting of Peter by the taxicab, his left leg is out while his hand is to his head. In the realization, his right foot is out with his hands in his lap. Seems like these things are just as (in)significant as a covered or uncovered blade shrug --[[User:Frantik\|Frantik]] ([[User talk:Frantik\|Talk]]) 21:16, 20 February 2007 (EST)

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imported>Frantik: /* So...there are two? */

2007-02-21T01:29:42Z

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	Just clarification... is it just an error that they left the painting in Isaac's studio or did he paint a second one for Hiro? --[[User:Riddler\|Riddler]] 02:24, 20 February 2007 (EST)		Just clarification... is it just an error that they left the painting in Isaac's studio or did he paint a second one for Hiro? --[[User:Riddler\|Riddler]] 02:24, 20 February 2007 (EST)
	*Seems highly unlikely that he would have painted two. The painting is not for sale, so he has no reason to paint a second. It's possible, but it's much more likely that they just filled his studio with prop paintings. I say it's a production error. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 03:01, 20 February 2007 (EST)		*Seems highly unlikely that he would have painted two. The painting is not for sale, so he has no reason to paint a second. It's possible, but it's much more likely that they just filled his studio with prop paintings. I say it's a production error. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 03:01, 20 February 2007 (EST)
			** I noticed that too :D Pretty big Oops! --[[User:Frantik\|Frantik]] ([[User talk:Frantik\|Talk]]) 20:29, 20 February 2007 (EST)

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	Just clarification... is it just an error that they left the painting in Isaac's studio or did he paint a second one for Hiro? --[[User:Riddler\|Riddler]] 02:24, 20 February 2007 (EST)		Just clarification... is it just an error that they left the painting in Isaac's studio or did he paint a second one for Hiro? --[[User:Riddler\|Riddler]] 02:24, 20 February 2007 (EST)
			*Seems highly unlikely that he would have painted two. The painting is not for sale, so he has no reason to paint a second. It's possible, but it's much more likely that they just filled his studio with prop paintings. I say it's a production error. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 03:01, 20 February 2007 (EST)

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	** I noticed that too :D Pretty big Oops! --[[User:Frantik\|Frantik]] ([[User talk:Frantik\|Talk]]) 20:29, 20 February 2007 (EST)		** I noticed that too :D Pretty big Oops! --[[User:Frantik\|Frantik]] ([[User talk:Frantik\|Talk]]) 20:29, 20 February 2007 (EST)
	** [[Image:Seeing_double.jpg\|thumb\|right\|Two very similar paintings stand side by side in Isaac's apartment]]Hmm I also noticed two of the same street corner paintings.. either the prop guys were out to lunch or there could be two copies. --[[User:Frantik\|Frantik]] ([[User talk:Frantik\|Talk]]) 19:54, 21 February 2007 (EST)		** [[Image:Seeing_double.jpg\|thumb\|right\|Two very similar paintings stand side by side in Isaac's apartment]]Hmm I also noticed two of the same street corner paintings.. either the prop guys were out to lunch or there could be two copies. --[[User:Frantik\|Frantik]] ([[User talk:Frantik\|Talk]]) 19:54, 21 February 2007 (EST)
			** A second Copy of the Painting may be a plot Point, since the Original has been damaged. [[User:Salvo\|Salvo]] 14:17, 22 February 2007 (EST)

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	*Seems highly unlikely that he would have painted two. The painting is not for sale, so he has no reason to paint a second. It's possible, but it's much more likely that they just filled his studio with prop paintings. I say it's a production error. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 03:01, 20 February 2007 (EST)		*Seems highly unlikely that he would have painted two. The painting is not for sale, so he has no reason to paint a second. It's possible, but it's much more likely that they just filled his studio with prop paintings. I say it's a production error. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 03:01, 20 February 2007 (EST)
	** I noticed that too :D Pretty big Oops! --[[User:Frantik\|Frantik]] ([[User talk:Frantik\|Talk]]) 20:29, 20 February 2007 (EST)		** I noticed that too :D Pretty big Oops! --[[User:Frantik\|Frantik]] ([[User talk:Frantik\|Talk]]) 20:29, 20 February 2007 (EST)
			** [[Image:Seeing_double.jpg\|thumb\|right\|Two very similar paintings stand side by side in Isaac's apartment]]Hmm I also noticed two of the same street corner paintings.. either the prop guys were out to lunch or there could be two copies. --[[User:Frantik\|Frantik]] ([[User talk:Frantik\|Talk]]) 19:54, 21 February 2007 (EST)

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	Just clarification... is it just an error that they left the painting in Isaac's studio or did he paint a second one for Hiro? --[[User:Riddler\|Riddler]] 02:24, 20 February 2007 (EST)		Just clarification... is it just an error that they left the painting in Isaac's studio or did he paint a second one for Hiro? --[[User:Riddler\|Riddler]] 02:24, 20 February 2007 (EST)
	*Seems highly unlikely that he would have painted two. The painting is not for sale, so he has no reason to paint a second. It's possible, but it's much more likely that they just filled his studio with prop paintings. I say it's a production error. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 03:01, 20 February 2007 (EST)		*Seems highly unlikely that he would have painted two. The painting is not for sale, so he has no reason to paint a second. It's possible, but it's much more likely that they just filled his studio with prop paintings. I say it's a production error. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 03:01, 20 February 2007 (EST)
			** I noticed that too :D Pretty big Oops! --[[User:Frantik\|Frantik]] ([[User talk:Frantik\|Talk]]) 20:29, 20 February 2007 (EST)