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imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* Useless character */

2007-04-04T02:14:31Z

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imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* Useless character */

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	Okay....What was the point of her character again? [[User:Heroe\|<span style="color:green">Heroe!</span>]]<small>[[User talk:Heroe\|<span style="color:#000000">(talk)</span>]]</small> 21:52, 3 April 2007 (EDT)		Okay....What was the point of her character again? [[User:Heroe\|<span style="color:green">Heroe!</span>]]<small>[[User talk:Heroe\|<span style="color:#000000">(talk)</span>]]</small> 21:52, 3 April 2007 (EDT)
			*It was twofold. She provided a distraction so that [[awards\|fan favorite]] [[Masi Oka]] could be in another episode. She also provided a nice one-liner: "I will find hope." ... "Hi. I'm Hope." (Although, Ando was speaking in Japanese, so wouldn't her name have to be the Japanese word for "hope" to be funny to Ando?) — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 22:14, 3 April 2007 (EDT)

imported>Heroe: Useless character

2007-04-04T01:52:10Z

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	****Well, if it's complicated, don't worry about it. Not really that big of a deal, you know? — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 16:15, 16 February 2007 (EST)		****Well, if it's complicated, don't worry about it. Not really that big of a deal, you know? — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 16:15, 16 February 2007 (EST)
	*****I'll give it a go. I need the practice with the string functions.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:19, 16 February 2007 (EST)		*****I'll give it a go. I need the practice with the string functions.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:19, 16 February 2007 (EST)

			== Useless character ==

			Okay....What was the point of her character again? [[User:Heroe\|<span style="color:green">Heroe!</span>]]<small>[[User talk:Heroe\|<span style="color:#000000">(talk)</span>]]</small> 21:52, 3 April 2007 (EDT)

imported>Hardvice at 21:26, 16 February 2007

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	*****I am in favor of this as well. Undernamed is not the same as unnamed. Can you think of a good reason not to make this change?		*****I am in favor of this as well. Undernamed is not the same as unnamed. Can you think of a good reason not to make this change?
	******No, let me just go ahead and make the changes. I count 7 people who are partially named but listed as unnamed: [[Captain Baldwin]], [[Mr. Bennet]], [[Mr. Linderman]], [[Mr. Ellis]], [[Mr. Petrelli]], [[Miss Sakamoto]], and [[Mrs. Walker]]. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 16:20, 16 February 2007 (EST)		******No, let me just go ahead and make the changes. I count 7 people who are partially named but listed as unnamed: [[Captain Baldwin]], [[Mr. Bennet]], [[Mr. Linderman]], [[Mr. Ellis]], [[Mr. Petrelli]], [[Miss Sakamoto]], and [[Mrs. Walker]]. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 16:20, 16 February 2007 (EST)
			*******And actually, this means the auto-cat will work fine without worrying about last names. Two birds, one stone. Hooray!--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:26, 16 February 2007 (EST)
	***Actually, there is one problem with adding the cat from the template: they'll all be sorted under "M" for Mr., Miss, Mrs. I can probably make this work (I did it for the cast & crew stubs) but it gets kind of complicated.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:03, 16 February 2007 (EST)		***Actually, there is one problem with adding the cat from the template: they'll all be sorted under "M" for Mr., Miss, Mrs. I can probably make this work (I did it for the cast & crew stubs) but it gets kind of complicated.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:03, 16 February 2007 (EST)
	****Well, if it's complicated, don't worry about it. Not really that big of a deal, you know? — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 16:15, 16 February 2007 (EST)		****Well, if it's complicated, don't worry about it. Not really that big of a deal, you know? — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 16:15, 16 February 2007 (EST)

imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* Unnamed */

2007-02-16T21:20:23Z

Unnamed

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	****If it were up to me, I'd say anybody with any kind of name should ''not'' be unnamed. I think [[:Category:Unnamed Characters]] should be reserved for people with descriptive names ([[Bus accident victim]], [[Beat cop]]), not people whose first names are unknown.		****If it were up to me, I'd say anybody with any kind of name should ''not'' be unnamed. I think [[:Category:Unnamed Characters]] should be reserved for people with descriptive names ([[Bus accident victim]], [[Beat cop]]), not people whose first names are unknown.
	*****I am in favor of this as well. Undernamed is not the same as unnamed. Can you think of a good reason not to make this change?		*****I am in favor of this as well. Undernamed is not the same as unnamed. Can you think of a good reason not to make this change?
			******No, let me just go ahead and make the changes. I count 7 people who are partially named but listed as unnamed: [[Captain Baldwin]], [[Mr. Bennet]], [[Mr. Linderman]], [[Mr. Ellis]], [[Mr. Petrelli]], [[Miss Sakamoto]], and [[Mrs. Walker]]. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 16:20, 16 February 2007 (EST)
	***Actually, there is one problem with adding the cat from the template: they'll all be sorted under "M" for Mr., Miss, Mrs. I can probably make this work (I did it for the cast & crew stubs) but it gets kind of complicated.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:03, 16 February 2007 (EST)		***Actually, there is one problem with adding the cat from the template: they'll all be sorted under "M" for Mr., Miss, Mrs. I can probably make this work (I did it for the cast & crew stubs) but it gets kind of complicated.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:03, 16 February 2007 (EST)
	****Well, if it's complicated, don't worry about it. Not really that big of a deal, you know? — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 16:15, 16 February 2007 (EST)		****Well, if it's complicated, don't worry about it. Not really that big of a deal, you know? — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 16:15, 16 February 2007 (EST)

imported>Hardvice: /* Unnamed */

2007-02-16T21:19:28Z

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	***That's no problem. I can take care of the template. Is there a reason we distinguish between first and last names for formal names? It just seems ... odd. I mean, it feels like we're closer to knowing Linderman's "formal name" than Zach's.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 15:54, 16 February 2007 (EST)		***That's no problem. I can take care of the template. Is there a reason we distinguish between first and last names for formal names? It just seems ... odd. I mean, it feels like we're closer to knowing Linderman's "formal name" than Zach's.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 15:54, 16 February 2007 (EST)
	****If it were up to me, I'd say anybody with any kind of name should ''not'' be unnamed. I think [[:Category:Unnamed Characters]] should be reserved for people with descriptive names ([[Bus accident victim]], [[Beat cop]]), not people whose first names are unknown.		****If it were up to me, I'd say anybody with any kind of name should ''not'' be unnamed. I think [[:Category:Unnamed Characters]] should be reserved for people with descriptive names ([[Bus accident victim]], [[Beat cop]]), not people whose first names are unknown.
			*****I am in favor of this as well. Undernamed is not the same as unnamed. Can you think of a good reason not to make this change?
	***Actually, there is one problem with adding the cat from the template: they'll all be sorted under "M" for Mr., Miss, Mrs. I can probably make this work (I did it for the cast & crew stubs) but it gets kind of complicated.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:03, 16 February 2007 (EST)		***Actually, there is one problem with adding the cat from the template: they'll all be sorted under "M" for Mr., Miss, Mrs. I can probably make this work (I did it for the cast & crew stubs) but it gets kind of complicated.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:03, 16 February 2007 (EST)
	****Well, if it's complicated, don't worry about it. Not really that big of a deal, you know? — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 16:15, 16 February 2007 (EST)		****Well, if it's complicated, don't worry about it. Not really that big of a deal, you know? — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 16:15, 16 February 2007 (EST)
			*****I'll give it a go. I need the practice with the string functions.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:19, 16 February 2007 (EST)

imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* Unnamed */

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	**Come to think of it, we should probably make the character infobox add the [[:Category:Unnamed Characters]] (sorted, if possible) whenever anybody puts "Unknown" in the "Formal Name" variable. I'd do it myself, but I'd probably spend the next half hour trying to do what somebody more knowledgable can do in five minutes. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 15:29, 16 February 2007 (EST)		**Come to think of it, we should probably make the character infobox add the [[:Category:Unnamed Characters]] (sorted, if possible) whenever anybody puts "Unknown" in the "Formal Name" variable. I'd do it myself, but I'd probably spend the next half hour trying to do what somebody more knowledgable can do in five minutes. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 15:29, 16 February 2007 (EST)
	***That's no problem. I can take care of the template. Is there a reason we distinguish between first and last names for formal names? It just seems ... odd. I mean, it feels like we're closer to knowing Linderman's "formal name" than Zach's.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 15:54, 16 February 2007 (EST)		***That's no problem. I can take care of the template. Is there a reason we distinguish between first and last names for formal names? It just seems ... odd. I mean, it feels like we're closer to knowing Linderman's "formal name" than Zach's.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 15:54, 16 February 2007 (EST)
			****If it were up to me, I'd say anybody with any kind of name should ''not'' be unnamed. I think [[:Category:Unnamed Characters]] should be reserved for people with descriptive names ([[Bus accident victim]], [[Beat cop]]), not people whose first names are unknown.
	***Actually, there is one problem with adding the cat from the template: they'll all be sorted under "M" for Mr., Miss, Mrs. I can probably make this work (I did it for the cast & crew stubs) but it gets kind of complicated.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:03, 16 February 2007 (EST)		***Actually, there is one problem with adding the cat from the template: they'll all be sorted under "M" for Mr., Miss, Mrs. I can probably make this work (I did it for the cast & crew stubs) but it gets kind of complicated.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:03, 16 February 2007 (EST)
			****Well, if it's complicated, don't worry about it. Not really that big of a deal, you know? — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 16:15, 16 February 2007 (EST)

imported>Hardvice at 21:03, 16 February 2007

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	**Come to think of it, we should probably make the character infobox add the [[:Category:Unnamed Characters]] (sorted, if possible) whenever anybody puts "Unknown" in the "Formal Name" variable. I'd do it myself, but I'd probably spend the next half hour trying to do what somebody more knowledgable can do in five minutes. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 15:29, 16 February 2007 (EST)		**Come to think of it, we should probably make the character infobox add the [[:Category:Unnamed Characters]] (sorted, if possible) whenever anybody puts "Unknown" in the "Formal Name" variable. I'd do it myself, but I'd probably spend the next half hour trying to do what somebody more knowledgable can do in five minutes. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 15:29, 16 February 2007 (EST)
	***That's no problem. I can take care of the template. Is there a reason we distinguish between first and last names for formal names? It just seems ... odd. I mean, it feels like we're closer to knowing Linderman's "formal name" than Zach's.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 15:54, 16 February 2007 (EST)		***That's no problem. I can take care of the template. Is there a reason we distinguish between first and last names for formal names? It just seems ... odd. I mean, it feels like we're closer to knowing Linderman's "formal name" than Zach's.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 15:54, 16 February 2007 (EST)
			***Actually, there is one problem with adding the cat from the template: they'll all be sorted under "M" for Mr., Miss, Mrs. I can probably make this work (I did it for the cast & crew stubs) but it gets kind of complicated.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:03, 16 February 2007 (EST)

imported>Hardvice at 20:54, 16 February 2007

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	**No, it's anyone without a first name. (See [[Zach]] and [[Tina]], compared with [[Mr. Petrelli]] and [[Miss Sakamoto]].) I'll make the change now. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 15:22, 16 February 2007 (EST)		**No, it's anyone without a first name. (See [[Zach]] and [[Tina]], compared with [[Mr. Petrelli]] and [[Miss Sakamoto]].) I'll make the change now. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 15:22, 16 February 2007 (EST)
	**Come to think of it, we should probably make the character infobox add the [[:Category:Unnamed Characters]] (sorted, if possible) whenever anybody puts "Unknown" in the "Formal Name" variable. I'd do it myself, but I'd probably spend the next half hour trying to do what somebody more knowledgable can do in five minutes. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 15:29, 16 February 2007 (EST)		**Come to think of it, we should probably make the character infobox add the [[:Category:Unnamed Characters]] (sorted, if possible) whenever anybody puts "Unknown" in the "Formal Name" variable. I'd do it myself, but I'd probably spend the next half hour trying to do what somebody more knowledgable can do in five minutes. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 15:29, 16 February 2007 (EST)
			***That's no problem. I can take care of the template. Is there a reason we distinguish between first and last names for formal names? It just seems ... odd. I mean, it feels like we're closer to knowing Linderman's "formal name" than Zach's.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 15:54, 16 February 2007 (EST)

imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* Unnamed */

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	* Don't we list anyone without a last name as "unnamed"?--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 09:22, 16 February 2007 (EST)		* Don't we list anyone without a last name as "unnamed"?--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 09:22, 16 February 2007 (EST)
	**No, it's anyone without a first name. (See [[Zach]] and [[Tina]], compared with [[Mr. Petrelli]] and [[Miss Sakamoto]].) I'll make the change now. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 15:22, 16 February 2007 (EST)		**No, it's anyone without a first name. (See [[Zach]] and [[Tina]], compared with [[Mr. Petrelli]] and [[Miss Sakamoto]].) I'll make the change now. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 15:22, 16 February 2007 (EST)
			**Come to think of it, we should probably make the character infobox add the [[:Category:Unnamed Characters]] (sorted, if possible) whenever anybody puts "Unknown" in the "Formal Name" variable. I'd do it myself, but I'd probably spend the next half hour trying to do what somebody more knowledgable can do in five minutes. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 15:29, 16 February 2007 (EST)

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	*****I am in favor of this as well. Undernamed is not the same as unnamed. Can you think of a good reason not to make this change?		*****I am in favor of this as well. Undernamed is not the same as unnamed. Can you think of a good reason not to make this change?
	******No, let me just go ahead and make the changes. I count 7 people who are partially named but listed as unnamed: [[Captain Baldwin]], [[Mr. Bennet]], [[Mr. Linderman]], [[Mr. Ellis]], [[Mr. Petrelli]], [[Miss Sakamoto]], and [[Mrs. Walker]]. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 16:20, 16 February 2007 (EST)		******No, let me just go ahead and make the changes. I count 7 people who are partially named but listed as unnamed: [[Captain Baldwin]], [[Mr. Bennet]], [[Mr. Linderman]], [[Mr. Ellis]], [[Mr. Petrelli]], [[Miss Sakamoto]], and [[Mrs. Walker]]. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 16:20, 16 February 2007 (EST)
			*******And actually, this means the auto-cat will work fine without worrying about last names. Two birds, one stone. Hooray!--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:26, 16 February 2007 (EST)
	***Actually, there is one problem with adding the cat from the template: they'll all be sorted under "M" for Mr., Miss, Mrs. I can probably make this work (I did it for the cast & crew stubs) but it gets kind of complicated.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:03, 16 February 2007 (EST)		***Actually, there is one problem with adding the cat from the template: they'll all be sorted under "M" for Mr., Miss, Mrs. I can probably make this work (I did it for the cast & crew stubs) but it gets kind of complicated.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:03, 16 February 2007 (EST)
	****Well, if it's complicated, don't worry about it. Not really that big of a deal, you know? — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 16:15, 16 February 2007 (EST)		****Well, if it's complicated, don't worry about it. Not really that big of a deal, you know? — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 16:15, 16 February 2007 (EST)

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	**Come to think of it, we should probably make the character infobox add the [[:Category:Unnamed Characters]] (sorted, if possible) whenever anybody puts "Unknown" in the "Formal Name" variable. I'd do it myself, but I'd probably spend the next half hour trying to do what somebody more knowledgable can do in five minutes. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 15:29, 16 February 2007 (EST)		**Come to think of it, we should probably make the character infobox add the [[:Category:Unnamed Characters]] (sorted, if possible) whenever anybody puts "Unknown" in the "Formal Name" variable. I'd do it myself, but I'd probably spend the next half hour trying to do what somebody more knowledgable can do in five minutes. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 15:29, 16 February 2007 (EST)
	***That's no problem. I can take care of the template. Is there a reason we distinguish between first and last names for formal names? It just seems ... odd. I mean, it feels like we're closer to knowing Linderman's "formal name" than Zach's.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 15:54, 16 February 2007 (EST)		***That's no problem. I can take care of the template. Is there a reason we distinguish between first and last names for formal names? It just seems ... odd. I mean, it feels like we're closer to knowing Linderman's "formal name" than Zach's.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 15:54, 16 February 2007 (EST)
			****If it were up to me, I'd say anybody with any kind of name should ''not'' be unnamed. I think [[:Category:Unnamed Characters]] should be reserved for people with descriptive names ([[Bus accident victim]], [[Beat cop]]), not people whose first names are unknown.
	***Actually, there is one problem with adding the cat from the template: they'll all be sorted under "M" for Mr., Miss, Mrs. I can probably make this work (I did it for the cast & crew stubs) but it gets kind of complicated.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:03, 16 February 2007 (EST)		***Actually, there is one problem with adding the cat from the template: they'll all be sorted under "M" for Mr., Miss, Mrs. I can probably make this work (I did it for the cast & crew stubs) but it gets kind of complicated.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:03, 16 February 2007 (EST)
			****Well, if it's complicated, don't worry about it. Not really that big of a deal, you know? — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 16:15, 16 February 2007 (EST)

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	**Come to think of it, we should probably make the character infobox add the [[:Category:Unnamed Characters]] (sorted, if possible) whenever anybody puts "Unknown" in the "Formal Name" variable. I'd do it myself, but I'd probably spend the next half hour trying to do what somebody more knowledgable can do in five minutes. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 15:29, 16 February 2007 (EST)		**Come to think of it, we should probably make the character infobox add the [[:Category:Unnamed Characters]] (sorted, if possible) whenever anybody puts "Unknown" in the "Formal Name" variable. I'd do it myself, but I'd probably spend the next half hour trying to do what somebody more knowledgable can do in five minutes. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 15:29, 16 February 2007 (EST)
	***That's no problem. I can take care of the template. Is there a reason we distinguish between first and last names for formal names? It just seems ... odd. I mean, it feels like we're closer to knowing Linderman's "formal name" than Zach's.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 15:54, 16 February 2007 (EST)		***That's no problem. I can take care of the template. Is there a reason we distinguish between first and last names for formal names? It just seems ... odd. I mean, it feels like we're closer to knowing Linderman's "formal name" than Zach's.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 15:54, 16 February 2007 (EST)
			***Actually, there is one problem with adding the cat from the template: they'll all be sorted under "M" for Mr., Miss, Mrs. I can probably make this work (I did it for the cast & crew stubs) but it gets kind of complicated.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:03, 16 February 2007 (EST)

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	**No, it's anyone without a first name. (See [[Zach]] and [[Tina]], compared with [[Mr. Petrelli]] and [[Miss Sakamoto]].) I'll make the change now. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 15:22, 16 February 2007 (EST)		**No, it's anyone without a first name. (See [[Zach]] and [[Tina]], compared with [[Mr. Petrelli]] and [[Miss Sakamoto]].) I'll make the change now. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 15:22, 16 February 2007 (EST)
	**Come to think of it, we should probably make the character infobox add the [[:Category:Unnamed Characters]] (sorted, if possible) whenever anybody puts "Unknown" in the "Formal Name" variable. I'd do it myself, but I'd probably spend the next half hour trying to do what somebody more knowledgable can do in five minutes. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 15:29, 16 February 2007 (EST)		**Come to think of it, we should probably make the character infobox add the [[:Category:Unnamed Characters]] (sorted, if possible) whenever anybody puts "Unknown" in the "Formal Name" variable. I'd do it myself, but I'd probably spend the next half hour trying to do what somebody more knowledgable can do in five minutes. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 15:29, 16 February 2007 (EST)
			***That's no problem. I can take care of the template. Is there a reason we distinguish between first and last names for formal names? It just seems ... odd. I mean, it feels like we're closer to knowing Linderman's "formal name" than Zach's.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 15:54, 16 February 2007 (EST)

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	* Don't we list anyone without a last name as "unnamed"?--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 09:22, 16 February 2007 (EST)		* Don't we list anyone without a last name as "unnamed"?--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 09:22, 16 February 2007 (EST)
	**No, it's anyone without a first name. (See [[Zach]] and [[Tina]], compared with [[Mr. Petrelli]] and [[Miss Sakamoto]].) I'll make the change now. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 15:22, 16 February 2007 (EST)		**No, it's anyone without a first name. (See [[Zach]] and [[Tina]], compared with [[Mr. Petrelli]] and [[Miss Sakamoto]].) I'll make the change now. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 15:22, 16 February 2007 (EST)
			**Come to think of it, we should probably make the character infobox add the [[:Category:Unnamed Characters]] (sorted, if possible) whenever anybody puts "Unknown" in the "Formal Name" variable. I'd do it myself, but I'd probably spend the next half hour trying to do what somebody more knowledgable can do in five minutes. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 15:29, 16 February 2007 (EST)