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imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* Canonicity */

2009-03-18T01:58:37Z

Canonicity

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imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* Canonicity */

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	*Upon rethinking, since Sylar's AT was in ''[[Building 26]]'', it would still say "the ability to melt matter", so this name is now canon, right?{{User:Psilaq Remake/sig}} 21:00, 17 March 2009 (EDT)		*Upon rethinking, since Sylar's AT was in ''[[Building 26]]'', it would still say "the ability to melt matter", so this name is now canon, right?{{User:Psilaq Remake/sig}} 21:00, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
	::Do you have a picture? That would be fantastic. [[User:Therequiembellishere\|Therequiembellishere]] 21:33, 17 March 2009 (EDT)		::Do you have a picture? That would be fantastic. [[User:Therequiembellishere\|Therequiembellishere]] 21:33, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
			::: [[:Image:Gabriel Gray's assignment tracker profile.jpg\|Here's the image]]. The facsimile of it is found at [[Assignment Tracker 2.0/Sylar]]. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 21:58, 17 March 2009 (EDT)

imported>Psilaq Remake: title

2009-03-18T01:35:18Z

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	******* The BBC Two picture showing liquefaction is a secondary source because it's not part of NBC's Heroes Evolutions, so the discussion about some near-canon sources trumping canon ones does not apply. Also, the ability was described as "melting" in an episode commentary, which I trust to be more canon than the BBC Two content. There is no need to re-hash explicit over non-explicit descriptive for this name.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 19:01, 3 November 2008 (EST)		******* The BBC Two picture showing liquefaction is a secondary source because it's not part of NBC's Heroes Evolutions, so the discussion about some near-canon sources trumping canon ones does not apply. Also, the ability was described as "melting" in an episode commentary, which I trust to be more canon than the BBC Two content. There is no need to re-hash explicit over non-explicit descriptive for this name.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 19:01, 3 November 2008 (EST)
	******** Well, it's been [[Talk:Clairsentience\|decided in the past that at least some of the Mohinder's office]] info is part of Evolutions because of their appearance on NBC.com. Only four of the twenty-five research files are included, however, and Zane's isn't one of them. It also only includes four of Bridget's e-mails, but we include all twenty-six on our site with no differentation between "official" and non-official. I'm not sure how the BBC content should be handled in this case.--[[User:Tim Thomason\|Tim Thomason]] 12:54, 12 November 2008 (EST)		******** Well, it's been [[Talk:Clairsentience\|decided in the past that at least some of the Mohinder's office]] info is part of Evolutions because of their appearance on NBC.com. Only four of the twenty-five research files are included, however, and Zane's isn't one of them. It also only includes four of Bridget's e-mails, but we include all twenty-six on our site with no differentation between "official" and non-official. I'm not sure how the BBC content should be handled in this case.--[[User:Tim Thomason\|Tim Thomason]] 12:54, 12 November 2008 (EST)
			==Canonicity==
	==Shoudn't it be Liquefaction?==
	*Upon rethinking, since Sylar's AT was in ''[[Building 26]]'', it would still say "the ability to melt matter", so this name is now canon, right?{{User:Psilaq Remake/sig}} 21:00, 17 March 2009 (EDT)		*Upon rethinking, since Sylar's AT was in ''[[Building 26]]'', it would still say "the ability to melt matter", so this name is now canon, right?{{User:Psilaq Remake/sig}} 21:00, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
	::Do you have a picture? That would be fantastic. [[User:Therequiembellishere\|Therequiembellishere]] 21:33, 17 March 2009 (EDT)		::Do you have a picture? That would be fantastic. [[User:Therequiembellishere\|Therequiembellishere]] 21:33, 17 March 2009 (EDT)

imported>Therequiembellishere: /* Shoudn't it be Liquefaction? */

2009-03-18T01:33:47Z

Shoudn't it be Liquefaction?

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	==Shoudn't it be Liquefaction?==		==Shoudn't it be Liquefaction?==
	*Upon rethinking, since Sylar's AT was in ''[[Building 26]]'', it would still say "the ability to melt matter", so this name is now canon, right?{{User:Psilaq Remake/sig}} 21:00, 17 March 2009 (EDT)		*Upon rethinking, since Sylar's AT was in ''[[Building 26]]'', it would still say "the ability to melt matter", so this name is now canon, right?{{User:Psilaq Remake/sig}} 21:00, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
			::Do you have a picture? That would be fantastic. [[User:Therequiembellishere\|Therequiembellishere]] 21:33, 17 March 2009 (EDT)

imported>Psilaq Remake: name canonicity and explanation

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name canonicity and explanation

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	{{power names\|2\|eos=Described as "ability to melt" in Gabriel Gray's [[primatechpaper.com]] [http://www.primatechpaper.com/AT_2.0/assignmentTracker.php?subject=C004 profile]}}		{{power names\|1\|eos=Described as "ability to melt" in Gabriel Gray's [[primatechpaper.com]] [http://www.primatechpaper.com/AT_2.0/assignmentTracker.php?subject=C004 profile] (''[[Building 26]]'')}}
	==Touch?==		==Touch?==
	Sylar didn't have to touch it to affect it. His hand was hovering over it. [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]] 22:32, 12 February 2007 (EST)		Sylar didn't have to touch it to affect it. His hand was hovering over it. [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]] 22:32, 12 February 2007 (EST)
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	******* The BBC Two picture showing liquefaction is a secondary source because it's not part of NBC's Heroes Evolutions, so the discussion about some near-canon sources trumping canon ones does not apply. Also, the ability was described as "melting" in an episode commentary, which I trust to be more canon than the BBC Two content. There is no need to re-hash explicit over non-explicit descriptive for this name.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 19:01, 3 November 2008 (EST)		******* The BBC Two picture showing liquefaction is a secondary source because it's not part of NBC's Heroes Evolutions, so the discussion about some near-canon sources trumping canon ones does not apply. Also, the ability was described as "melting" in an episode commentary, which I trust to be more canon than the BBC Two content. There is no need to re-hash explicit over non-explicit descriptive for this name.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 19:01, 3 November 2008 (EST)
	******** Well, it's been [[Talk:Clairsentience\|decided in the past that at least some of the Mohinder's office]] info is part of Evolutions because of their appearance on NBC.com. Only four of the twenty-five research files are included, however, and Zane's isn't one of them. It also only includes four of Bridget's e-mails, but we include all twenty-six on our site with no differentation between "official" and non-official. I'm not sure how the BBC content should be handled in this case.--[[User:Tim Thomason\|Tim Thomason]] 12:54, 12 November 2008 (EST)		******** Well, it's been [[Talk:Clairsentience\|decided in the past that at least some of the Mohinder's office]] info is part of Evolutions because of their appearance on NBC.com. Only four of the twenty-five research files are included, however, and Zane's isn't one of them. It also only includes four of Bridget's e-mails, but we include all twenty-six on our site with no differentation between "official" and non-official. I'm not sure how the BBC content should be handled in this case.--[[User:Tim Thomason\|Tim Thomason]] 12:54, 12 November 2008 (EST)
			==Shoudn't it be Liquefaction?==
			*Upon rethinking, since Sylar's AT was in ''[[Building 26]]'', it would still say "the ability to melt matter", so this name is now canon, right?{{User:Psilaq Remake/sig}} 21:00, 17 March 2009 (EDT)

imported>Catalyst: /* Rename */

2009-01-22T01:48:45Z

Rename

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	* Time to offer my opinion again. I believe "Melting point reduction" is speculation as to how the ability works, and "cool melting" is contradictory. So I think "melting" is our best bet, especially since it's been called that in secondary sources. --{{User:Heroe/sig}} 19:55, 10 December 2007 (EST)		* Time to offer my opinion again. I believe "Melting point reduction" is speculation as to how the ability works, and "cool melting" is contradictory. So I think "melting" is our best bet, especially since it's been called that in secondary sources. --{{User:Heroe/sig}} 19:55, 10 December 2007 (EST)
	**It's lame, but it works...and it's not speculative. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:24, 10 December 2007 (EST)		**It's lame, but it works...and it's not speculative. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:24, 10 December 2007 (EST)
			Melting is a simple name and doesn't work for the ability.And I agree Liquefaction does sound weird. I think Liquification sounds a whole lot better. --[[User:Catalyst\|Catalyst]] 16:48 21 January 2009

	== Heres an Idea! ==		== Heres an Idea! ==

imported>Tim Thomason: /* Shoudn't it be Liquefaction? */

2008-11-12T17:54:35Z

Shoudn't it be Liquefaction?

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	****** That's what I mean. If we're considering the blurb in the AT the same level of canon as the title, then we shouldn't be allowed to change it at all (as per the Puppet Master discussion). If we're considering the blurb to be of a different level of canon than the title, then it should be trumped by Mohinder's lab, which is the same level of canonicity as the AT (ie - as the most reliable part of the AT). In either scenario, the power should probably be changed to liquefaction. --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] 18:09, 2 November 2008 (EST)		****** That's what I mean. If we're considering the blurb in the AT the same level of canon as the title, then we shouldn't be allowed to change it at all (as per the Puppet Master discussion). If we're considering the blurb to be of a different level of canon than the title, then it should be trumped by Mohinder's lab, which is the same level of canonicity as the AT (ie - as the most reliable part of the AT). In either scenario, the power should probably be changed to liquefaction. --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] 18:09, 2 November 2008 (EST)
	******* The BBC Two picture showing liquefaction is a secondary source because it's not part of NBC's Heroes Evolutions, so the discussion about some near-canon sources trumping canon ones does not apply. Also, the ability was described as "melting" in an episode commentary, which I trust to be more canon than the BBC Two content. There is no need to re-hash explicit over non-explicit descriptive for this name.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 19:01, 3 November 2008 (EST)		******* The BBC Two picture showing liquefaction is a secondary source because it's not part of NBC's Heroes Evolutions, so the discussion about some near-canon sources trumping canon ones does not apply. Also, the ability was described as "melting" in an episode commentary, which I trust to be more canon than the BBC Two content. There is no need to re-hash explicit over non-explicit descriptive for this name.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 19:01, 3 November 2008 (EST)
			******** Well, it's been [[Talk:Clairsentience\|decided in the past that at least some of the Mohinder's office]] info is part of Evolutions because of their appearance on NBC.com. Only four of the twenty-five research files are included, however, and Zane's isn't one of them. It also only includes four of Bridget's e-mails, but we include all twenty-six on our site with no differentation between "official" and non-official. I'm not sure how the BBC content should be handled in this case.--[[User:Tim Thomason\|Tim Thomason]] 12:54, 12 November 2008 (EST)

imported>MiamiVolts: /* Shoudn't it be Liquefaction? */ reply

2008-11-04T00:01:38Z

Shoudn't it be Liquefaction?: reply

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	*It says so in this pic...[http://heroeswiki.com/Image:MO-Zane_Taylor.JPG Zan Taylor Profile]. [[User:NiveKJ13\|NiveKJ13]] 14:35, 2 November 2008 (EST)		*It says so in this pic...[http://heroeswiki.com/Image:MO-Zane_Taylor.JPG Zan Taylor Profile]. [[User:NiveKJ13\|NiveKJ13]] 14:35, 2 November 2008 (EST)
	** This was discussed above. The main reason it's listed as melting seems to be that there was a 'tie' in canon sources (Mohinder's apartment vs. Assignment tracker), and a tiebreaker in the form of episode commentary. However, I don't see the assignment tracker ion question listed on either the [[Assignment Tracker 2.0\|assignment traker page]] or the [[Assignment tracker map\|interactive map page]]. If there is one, it should be added to the appropriate page. If not, the power name should be changed to liquefication, according to naming convention. --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] 15:54, 2 November 2008 (EST)		** This was discussed above. The main reason it's listed as melting seems to be that there was a 'tie' in canon sources (Mohinder's apartment vs. Assignment tracker), and a tiebreaker in the form of episode commentary. However, I don't see the assignment tracker ion question listed on either the [[Assignment Tracker 2.0\|assignment traker page]] or the [[Assignment tracker map\|interactive map page]]. If there is one, it should be added to the appropriate page. If not, the power name should be changed to liquefication, according to naming convention.--[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] 15:54, 2 November 2008 (EST)
	***It's Sylar's assignment tracker. It states "ability to melt". If the BBC thing is considered Second Level Canon, though, I'd say Liquefaction trumps Melting, in that it's named, not described. That's only if there is in fact a "tie", though.--[[User:Riddler\|Riddler]] 16:13, 2 November 2008 (EST)		***It's Sylar's assignment tracker. It states "ability to melt". If the BBC thing is considered Second Level Canon, though, I'd say Liquefaction trumps Melting, in that it's named, not described. That's only if there is in fact a "tie", though.--[[User:Riddler\|Riddler]] 16:13, 2 November 2008 (EST)
	**** Ah I see. Thanks. But looking at it, it says 'the ability to melt items.' While we could extrapolate to 'melting,' I'm not sure that's valid. The blurb is not listing the precise names of abilities (as it says 'radioactivity,' not 'induced radioactivity'), and so the fact that another source of equal canonicity specifically states the ability should trump this. Plus, if we're not willing to add a '-y' to Puppet Master, I don't see why we'd add an '-ing' to melt. For that matter, we already have Hana's ability not specifically matching her AT, since it was combined with Richard Drucker's. --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] 17:47, 2 November 2008 (EST)		**** Ah I see. Thanks. But looking at it, it says 'the ability to melt items.' While we could extrapolate to 'melting,' I'm not sure that's valid. The blurb is not listing the precise names of abilities (as it says 'radioactivity,' not 'induced radioactivity'), and so the fact that another source of equal canonicity specifically states the ability should trump this. Plus, if we're not willing to add a '-y' to Puppet Master, I don't see why we'd add an '-ing' to melt. For that matter, we already have Hana's ability not specifically matching her AT, since it was combined with Richard Drucker's. --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] 17:47, 2 November 2008 (EST)
	***** Puppet Master is different than Melting, as PM is explicitly named, and Melting is a part of a blurb. I do agree on using the other source, but only if they are considered to be on the same level canonically. --[[User:Riddler\|Riddler]] 17:54, 2 November 2008 (EST)		***** Puppet Master is different than Melting, as PM is explicitly named, and Melting is a part of a blurb. I do agree on using the other source, but only if they are considered to be on the same level canonically. --[[User:Riddler\|Riddler]] 17:54, 2 November 2008 (EST)
	****** That's what I mean. If we're considering the blurb in the AT the same level of canon as the title, then we shouldn't be allowed to change it at all (as per the Puppet Master discussion). If we're considering the blurb to be of a different level of canon than the title, then it should be trumped by Mohinder's lab, which is the same level of canonicity as the AT (ie - as the most reliable part of the AT). In either scenario, the power should probably be changed to ~~liquefication~~. --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] 18:09, 2 November 2008 (EST)		****** That's what I mean. If we're considering the blurb in the AT the same level of canon as the title, then we shouldn't be allowed to change it at all (as per the Puppet Master discussion). If we're considering the blurb to be of a different level of canon than the title, then it should be trumped by Mohinder's lab, which is the same level of canonicity as the AT (ie - as the most reliable part of the AT). In either scenario, the power should probably be changed to liquefaction. --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] 18:09, 2 November 2008 (EST)
			******* The BBC Two picture showing liquefaction is a secondary source because it's not part of NBC's Heroes Evolutions, so the discussion about some near-canon sources trumping canon ones does not apply. Also, the ability was described as "melting" in an episode commentary, which I trust to be more canon than the BBC Two content. There is no need to re-hash explicit over non-explicit descriptive for this name.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 19:01, 3 November 2008 (EST)

imported>NiveKJ13: /* Shoudn't it be Liquefication? */

2008-11-03T21:51:48Z

Shoudn't it be Liquefication?

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	***** To see what the BBC said to [[User:Hardvice]], see [[Talk:Mohinder's office#Research notes\|here]]. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 00:13, 28 August 2008 (EDT)		***** To see what the BBC said to [[User:Hardvice]], see [[Talk:Mohinder's office#Research notes\|here]]. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 00:13, 28 August 2008 (EDT)

	==Shoudn't it be ~~Liquefication~~?==		==Shoudn't it be Liquefaction?==

	*It says so in this pic...[http://heroeswiki.com/Image:MO-Zane_Taylor.JPG Zan Taylor Profile]. [[User:NiveKJ13\|NiveKJ13]] 14:35, 2 November 2008 (EST)		*It says so in this pic...[http://heroeswiki.com/Image:MO-Zane_Taylor.JPG Zan Taylor Profile]. [[User:NiveKJ13\|NiveKJ13]] 14:35, 2 November 2008 (EST)

imported>Stevehim: /* Shoudn't it be Liquifaction? */

2008-11-02T23:09:24Z

Shoudn't it be Liquifaction?

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	***** To see what the BBC said to [[User:Hardvice]], see [[Talk:Mohinder's office#Research notes\|here]]. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 00:13, 28 August 2008 (EDT)		***** To see what the BBC said to [[User:Hardvice]], see [[Talk:Mohinder's office#Research notes\|here]]. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 00:13, 28 August 2008 (EDT)

	==Shoudn't it be ~~Liquifaction~~?==		==Shoudn't it be Liquefication?==

	*It says so in this pic...[http://heroeswiki.com/Image:MO-Zane_Taylor.JPG Zan Taylor Profile]. [[User:NiveKJ13\|NiveKJ13]] 14:35, 2 November 2008 (EST)		*It says so in this pic...[http://heroeswiki.com/Image:MO-Zane_Taylor.JPG Zan Taylor Profile]. [[User:NiveKJ13\|NiveKJ13]] 14:35, 2 November 2008 (EST)
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	**** Ah I see. Thanks. But looking at it, it says 'the ability to melt items.' While we could extrapolate to 'melting,' I'm not sure that's valid. The blurb is not listing the precise names of abilities (as it says 'radioactivity,' not 'induced radioactivity'), and so the fact that another source of equal canonicity specifically states the ability should trump this. Plus, if we're not willing to add a '-y' to Puppet Master, I don't see why we'd add an '-ing' to melt. For that matter, we already have Hana's ability not specifically matching her AT, since it was combined with Richard Drucker's. --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] 17:47, 2 November 2008 (EST)		**** Ah I see. Thanks. But looking at it, it says 'the ability to melt items.' While we could extrapolate to 'melting,' I'm not sure that's valid. The blurb is not listing the precise names of abilities (as it says 'radioactivity,' not 'induced radioactivity'), and so the fact that another source of equal canonicity specifically states the ability should trump this. Plus, if we're not willing to add a '-y' to Puppet Master, I don't see why we'd add an '-ing' to melt. For that matter, we already have Hana's ability not specifically matching her AT, since it was combined with Richard Drucker's. --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] 17:47, 2 November 2008 (EST)
	***** Puppet Master is different than Melting, as PM is explicitly named, and Melting is a part of a blurb. I do agree on using the other source, but only if they are considered to be on the same level canonically. --[[User:Riddler\|Riddler]] 17:54, 2 November 2008 (EST)		***** Puppet Master is different than Melting, as PM is explicitly named, and Melting is a part of a blurb. I do agree on using the other source, but only if they are considered to be on the same level canonically. --[[User:Riddler\|Riddler]] 17:54, 2 November 2008 (EST)
			****** That's what I mean. If we're considering the blurb in the AT the same level of canon as the title, then we shouldn't be allowed to change it at all (as per the Puppet Master discussion). If we're considering the blurb to be of a different level of canon than the title, then it should be trumped by Mohinder's lab, which is the same level of canonicity as the AT (ie - as the most reliable part of the AT). In either scenario, the power should probably be changed to liquefication. --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] 18:09, 2 November 2008 (EST)

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	****** That's what I mean. If we're considering the blurb in the AT the same level of canon as the title, then we shouldn't be allowed to change it at all (as per the Puppet Master discussion). If we're considering the blurb to be of a different level of canon than the title, then it should be trumped by Mohinder's lab, which is the same level of canonicity as the AT (ie - as the most reliable part of the AT). In either scenario, the power should probably be changed to liquefaction. --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] 18:09, 2 November 2008 (EST)		****** That's what I mean. If we're considering the blurb in the AT the same level of canon as the title, then we shouldn't be allowed to change it at all (as per the Puppet Master discussion). If we're considering the blurb to be of a different level of canon than the title, then it should be trumped by Mohinder's lab, which is the same level of canonicity as the AT (ie - as the most reliable part of the AT). In either scenario, the power should probably be changed to liquefaction. --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] 18:09, 2 November 2008 (EST)
	******* The BBC Two picture showing liquefaction is a secondary source because it's not part of NBC's Heroes Evolutions, so the discussion about some near-canon sources trumping canon ones does not apply. Also, the ability was described as "melting" in an episode commentary, which I trust to be more canon than the BBC Two content. There is no need to re-hash explicit over non-explicit descriptive for this name.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 19:01, 3 November 2008 (EST)		******* The BBC Two picture showing liquefaction is a secondary source because it's not part of NBC's Heroes Evolutions, so the discussion about some near-canon sources trumping canon ones does not apply. Also, the ability was described as "melting" in an episode commentary, which I trust to be more canon than the BBC Two content. There is no need to re-hash explicit over non-explicit descriptive for this name.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 19:01, 3 November 2008 (EST)
			******** Well, it's been [[Talk:Clairsentience\|decided in the past that at least some of the Mohinder's office]] info is part of Evolutions because of their appearance on NBC.com. Only four of the twenty-five research files are included, however, and Zane's isn't one of them. It also only includes four of Bridget's e-mails, but we include all twenty-six on our site with no differentation between "official" and non-official. I'm not sure how the BBC content should be handled in this case.--[[User:Tim Thomason\|Tim Thomason]] 12:54, 12 November 2008 (EST)

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	*It says so in this pic...[http://heroeswiki.com/Image:MO-Zane_Taylor.JPG Zan Taylor Profile]. [[User:NiveKJ13\|NiveKJ13]] 14:35, 2 November 2008 (EST)		*It says so in this pic...[http://heroeswiki.com/Image:MO-Zane_Taylor.JPG Zan Taylor Profile]. [[User:NiveKJ13\|NiveKJ13]] 14:35, 2 November 2008 (EST)
	** This was discussed above. The main reason it's listed as melting seems to be that there was a 'tie' in canon sources (Mohinder's apartment vs. Assignment tracker), and a tiebreaker in the form of episode commentary. However, I don't see the assignment tracker ion question listed on either the [[Assignment Tracker 2.0\|assignment traker page]] or the [[Assignment tracker map\|interactive map page]]. If there is one, it should be added to the appropriate page. If not, the power name should be changed to liquefication, according to naming convention. --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] 15:54, 2 November 2008 (EST)		** This was discussed above. The main reason it's listed as melting seems to be that there was a 'tie' in canon sources (Mohinder's apartment vs. Assignment tracker), and a tiebreaker in the form of episode commentary. However, I don't see the assignment tracker ion question listed on either the [[Assignment Tracker 2.0\|assignment traker page]] or the [[Assignment tracker map\|interactive map page]]. If there is one, it should be added to the appropriate page. If not, the power name should be changed to liquefication, according to naming convention.--[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] 15:54, 2 November 2008 (EST)
	***It's Sylar's assignment tracker. It states "ability to melt". If the BBC thing is considered Second Level Canon, though, I'd say Liquefaction trumps Melting, in that it's named, not described. That's only if there is in fact a "tie", though.--[[User:Riddler\|Riddler]] 16:13, 2 November 2008 (EST)		***It's Sylar's assignment tracker. It states "ability to melt". If the BBC thing is considered Second Level Canon, though, I'd say Liquefaction trumps Melting, in that it's named, not described. That's only if there is in fact a "tie", though.--[[User:Riddler\|Riddler]] 16:13, 2 November 2008 (EST)
	**** Ah I see. Thanks. But looking at it, it says 'the ability to melt items.' While we could extrapolate to 'melting,' I'm not sure that's valid. The blurb is not listing the precise names of abilities (as it says 'radioactivity,' not 'induced radioactivity'), and so the fact that another source of equal canonicity specifically states the ability should trump this. Plus, if we're not willing to add a '-y' to Puppet Master, I don't see why we'd add an '-ing' to melt. For that matter, we already have Hana's ability not specifically matching her AT, since it was combined with Richard Drucker's. --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] 17:47, 2 November 2008 (EST)		**** Ah I see. Thanks. But looking at it, it says 'the ability to melt items.' While we could extrapolate to 'melting,' I'm not sure that's valid. The blurb is not listing the precise names of abilities (as it says 'radioactivity,' not 'induced radioactivity'), and so the fact that another source of equal canonicity specifically states the ability should trump this. Plus, if we're not willing to add a '-y' to Puppet Master, I don't see why we'd add an '-ing' to melt. For that matter, we already have Hana's ability not specifically matching her AT, since it was combined with Richard Drucker's. --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] 17:47, 2 November 2008 (EST)
	***** Puppet Master is different than Melting, as PM is explicitly named, and Melting is a part of a blurb. I do agree on using the other source, but only if they are considered to be on the same level canonically. --[[User:Riddler\|Riddler]] 17:54, 2 November 2008 (EST)		***** Puppet Master is different than Melting, as PM is explicitly named, and Melting is a part of a blurb. I do agree on using the other source, but only if they are considered to be on the same level canonically. --[[User:Riddler\|Riddler]] 17:54, 2 November 2008 (EST)
	****** That's what I mean. If we're considering the blurb in the AT the same level of canon as the title, then we shouldn't be allowed to change it at all (as per the Puppet Master discussion). If we're considering the blurb to be of a different level of canon than the title, then it should be trumped by Mohinder's lab, which is the same level of canonicity as the AT (ie - as the most reliable part of the AT). In either scenario, the power should probably be changed to ~~liquefication~~. --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] 18:09, 2 November 2008 (EST)		****** That's what I mean. If we're considering the blurb in the AT the same level of canon as the title, then we shouldn't be allowed to change it at all (as per the Puppet Master discussion). If we're considering the blurb to be of a different level of canon than the title, then it should be trumped by Mohinder's lab, which is the same level of canonicity as the AT (ie - as the most reliable part of the AT). In either scenario, the power should probably be changed to liquefaction. --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] 18:09, 2 November 2008 (EST)
			******* The BBC Two picture showing liquefaction is a secondary source because it's not part of NBC's Heroes Evolutions, so the discussion about some near-canon sources trumping canon ones does not apply. Also, the ability was described as "melting" in an episode commentary, which I trust to be more canon than the BBC Two content. There is no need to re-hash explicit over non-explicit descriptive for this name.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 19:01, 3 November 2008 (EST)

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	***** To see what the BBC said to [[User:Hardvice]], see [[Talk:Mohinder's office#Research notes\|here]]. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 00:13, 28 August 2008 (EDT)		***** To see what the BBC said to [[User:Hardvice]], see [[Talk:Mohinder's office#Research notes\|here]]. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 00:13, 28 August 2008 (EDT)

	==Shoudn't it be ~~Liquifaction~~?==		==Shoudn't it be Liquefication?==

	*It says so in this pic...[http://heroeswiki.com/Image:MO-Zane_Taylor.JPG Zan Taylor Profile]. [[User:NiveKJ13\|NiveKJ13]] 14:35, 2 November 2008 (EST)		*It says so in this pic...[http://heroeswiki.com/Image:MO-Zane_Taylor.JPG Zan Taylor Profile]. [[User:NiveKJ13\|NiveKJ13]] 14:35, 2 November 2008 (EST)
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	**** Ah I see. Thanks. But looking at it, it says 'the ability to melt items.' While we could extrapolate to 'melting,' I'm not sure that's valid. The blurb is not listing the precise names of abilities (as it says 'radioactivity,' not 'induced radioactivity'), and so the fact that another source of equal canonicity specifically states the ability should trump this. Plus, if we're not willing to add a '-y' to Puppet Master, I don't see why we'd add an '-ing' to melt. For that matter, we already have Hana's ability not specifically matching her AT, since it was combined with Richard Drucker's. --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] 17:47, 2 November 2008 (EST)		**** Ah I see. Thanks. But looking at it, it says 'the ability to melt items.' While we could extrapolate to 'melting,' I'm not sure that's valid. The blurb is not listing the precise names of abilities (as it says 'radioactivity,' not 'induced radioactivity'), and so the fact that another source of equal canonicity specifically states the ability should trump this. Plus, if we're not willing to add a '-y' to Puppet Master, I don't see why we'd add an '-ing' to melt. For that matter, we already have Hana's ability not specifically matching her AT, since it was combined with Richard Drucker's. --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] 17:47, 2 November 2008 (EST)
	***** Puppet Master is different than Melting, as PM is explicitly named, and Melting is a part of a blurb. I do agree on using the other source, but only if they are considered to be on the same level canonically. --[[User:Riddler\|Riddler]] 17:54, 2 November 2008 (EST)		***** Puppet Master is different than Melting, as PM is explicitly named, and Melting is a part of a blurb. I do agree on using the other source, but only if they are considered to be on the same level canonically. --[[User:Riddler\|Riddler]] 17:54, 2 November 2008 (EST)
			****** That's what I mean. If we're considering the blurb in the AT the same level of canon as the title, then we shouldn't be allowed to change it at all (as per the Puppet Master discussion). If we're considering the blurb to be of a different level of canon than the title, then it should be trumped by Mohinder's lab, which is the same level of canonicity as the AT (ie - as the most reliable part of the AT). In either scenario, the power should probably be changed to liquefication. --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] 18:09, 2 November 2008 (EST)