https://heroeswiki.ddns.net/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3AMen_in_Refrigerators 2026-06-01T19:20:48Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.44.5 https://heroeswiki.ddns.net/index.php?title=Talk:Men_in_Refrigerators&diff=307455&oldid=prev 2007-01-17T22:28:59Z

<p>rem red links</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="1" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="1" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:28, 17 January 2007</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-notice" lang="en"><div class="mw-diff-empty">(No difference)</div> </td></tr></table>

imported>Hardvice https://heroeswiki.ddns.net/index.php?title=Talk:Men_in_Refrigerators&diff=171905&oldid=prev 2007-01-17T22:28:59Z

<p>rem red links</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:28, 17 January 2007</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 9:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 9:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>(Anyone mind if we merge this chat area with [[Talk: Women in Refrigerators]] and make this a redirect? --[[User:Orne|Orne]] 22:35, 12 January 2007 (EST) )</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>(Anyone mind if we merge this chat area with [[Talk: Women in Refrigerators]] and make this a redirect? --[[User:Orne|Orne]] 22:35, 12 January 2007 (EST) )</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I think in general it wouldn't be a good idea to redirect one Talk page to another. What would sound reasonable is a link at the top of the discussion to [[Talk: Women in Refrigerators]] indicating that discussions on this general "in refrigerator" topic might also be found there. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 22:40, 12 January 2007 (EST))</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I think in general it wouldn't be a good idea to redirect one Talk page to another. What would sound reasonable is a link at the top of the discussion to [[Talk: Women in Refrigerators]] indicating that discussions on this general "in refrigerator" topic might also be found there. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 22:40, 12 January 2007 (EST))</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Agree, there are plenty of examples where a discussion is held on the "wrong" page, because either somebody started it there, or because an old discussion morphs into a new tangent. I think the discussions on this page, though, may reference [[Women in Refrigerators]], but it's mostly about <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>Men in Refrigerators<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]</del>. - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 15:01, 13 January 2007 (EST)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Agree, there are plenty of examples where a discussion is held on the "wrong" page, because either somebody started it there, or because an old discussion morphs into a new tangent. I think the discussions on this page, though, may reference [[Women in Refrigerators]], but it's mostly about Men in Refrigerators. - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 15:01, 13 January 2007 (EST)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Merge with WIR?==</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Merge with WIR?==</div></td> </tr> <!-- diff cache key heroeswiki_dpl_en:diff:1.41:old-307454:rev-171905:wikidiff2=table:1.14.1:bc2a06be --> </table>

imported>Hardvice https://heroeswiki.ddns.net/index.php?title=Talk:Men_in_Refrigerators&diff=307454&oldid=prev 2007-01-17T06:58:21Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 06:58, 17 January 2007</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 14:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 14:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Since this is really just for comparison to [[Women in Refrigerators]], and since "Men in Refrigerators" isn't really an existing phenomenon outside this wiki, should this be merged as a new section in WIR? It just looks a little odd by itself, since it's not referring to anything but our own article.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]&lt;/small&gt; 01:40, 17 January 2007 (EST)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Since this is really just for comparison to [[Women in Refrigerators]], and since "Men in Refrigerators" isn't really an existing phenomenon outside this wiki, should this be merged as a new section in WIR? It just looks a little odd by itself, since it's not referring to anything but our own article.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]&lt;/small&gt; 01:40, 17 January 2007 (EST)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Abso-freakin'-lutely. The content of the article has merit, but stands better on the WIR page. It is more visible, more easily compared, and more user-friendly. Merge 'em! - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 01:52, 17 January 2007 (EST)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Abso-freakin'-lutely. The content of the article has merit, but stands better on the WIR page. It is more visible, more easily compared, and more user-friendly. Merge 'em! - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 01:52, 17 January 2007 (EST)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Sure, have at it. :D -- [[User:Cuardin|Cuardin]] 01:58, 17 January 2007 (EST)</div></td> </tr> <!-- diff cache key heroeswiki_dpl_en:diff:1.41:old-307453:rev-307454:wikidiff2=table:1.14.1:bc2a06be --> </table>

imported>Cuardin https://heroeswiki.ddns.net/index.php?title=Talk:Men_in_Refrigerators&diff=307453&oldid=prev 2007-01-17T06:52:01Z

<p><span class="autocomment">Merge with WIR?</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 06:52, 17 January 2007</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 13:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 13:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Merge with WIR?==</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Merge with WIR?==</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Since this is really just for comparison to [[Women in Refrigerators]], and since "Men in Refrigerators" isn't really an existing phenomenon outside this wiki, should this be merged as a new section in WIR? It just looks a little odd by itself, since it's not referring to anything but our own article.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]&lt;/small&gt; 01:40, 17 January 2007 (EST)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Since this is really just for comparison to [[Women in Refrigerators]], and since "Men in Refrigerators" isn't really an existing phenomenon outside this wiki, should this be merged as a new section in WIR? It just looks a little odd by itself, since it's not referring to anything but our own article.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]&lt;/small&gt; 01:40, 17 January 2007 (EST)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Abso-freakin'-lutely. The content of the article has merit, but stands better on the WIR page. It is more visible, more easily compared, and more user-friendly. Merge 'em! - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 01:52, 17 January 2007 (EST)</div></td> </tr> <!-- diff cache key heroeswiki_dpl_en:diff:1.41:old-307452:rev-307453:wikidiff2=table:1.14.1:bc2a06be --> </table>

imported>Ryangibsonstewart https://heroeswiki.ddns.net/index.php?title=Talk:Men_in_Refrigerators&diff=307452&oldid=prev 2007-01-17T06:40:08Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 06:40, 17 January 2007</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 10:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 10:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I think in general it wouldn't be a good idea to redirect one Talk page to another. What would sound reasonable is a link at the top of the discussion to [[Talk: Women in Refrigerators]] indicating that discussions on this general "in refrigerator" topic might also be found there. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 22:40, 12 January 2007 (EST))</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I think in general it wouldn't be a good idea to redirect one Talk page to another. What would sound reasonable is a link at the top of the discussion to [[Talk: Women in Refrigerators]] indicating that discussions on this general "in refrigerator" topic might also be found there. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 22:40, 12 January 2007 (EST))</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Agree, there are plenty of examples where a discussion is held on the "wrong" page, because either somebody started it there, or because an old discussion morphs into a new tangent. I think the discussions on this page, though, may reference [[Women in Refrigerators]], but it's mostly about [[Men in Refrigerators]]. - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 15:01, 13 January 2007 (EST)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Agree, there are plenty of examples where a discussion is held on the "wrong" page, because either somebody started it there, or because an old discussion morphs into a new tangent. I think the discussions on this page, though, may reference [[Women in Refrigerators]], but it's mostly about [[Men in Refrigerators]]. - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 15:01, 13 January 2007 (EST)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Merge with WIR?==</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Since this is really just for comparison to [[Women in Refrigerators]], and since "Men in Refrigerators" isn't really an existing phenomenon outside this wiki, should this be merged as a new section in WIR? It just looks a little odd by itself, since it's not referring to anything but our own article.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]&lt;/small&gt; 01:40, 17 January 2007 (EST)</div></td> </tr> <!-- diff cache key heroeswiki_dpl_en:diff:1.41:old-307451:rev-307452:wikidiff2=table:1.14.1:bc2a06be --> </table>

imported>Hardvice https://heroeswiki.ddns.net/index.php?title=Talk:Men_in_Refrigerators&diff=307451&oldid=prev 2007-01-14T14:56:03Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 14:56, 14 January 2007</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 4:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 4:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Ryan, I strongly disagree with the edit you just did where you removed the "other character's arc" part. I think you should read up on what the purpose of the "Women in the Refrigerator"-list was and then get back to me if you still feel your edit was relevant. [[User:Cuardin|Cuardin]] 22:13, 12 January 2007 (EST)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Ryan, I strongly disagree with the edit you just did where you removed the "other character's arc" part. I think you should read up on what the purpose of the "Women in the Refrigerator"-list was and then get back to me if you still feel your edit was relevant. [[User:Cuardin|Cuardin]] 22:13, 12 January 2007 (EST)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: I'm sorry I upset you with my edit, that wasn't my intention. I was going off the discussion ([[Talk:Women_in_Refrigerators#Comparing_to_Men_in_Refrigerators|here]]) that though people are part of others' story arcs, it would be speculative to say the purpose a particular character serves. (True, Charlie augmented Hiro's story, but Charlie is still her own character). I still feel my edit is very relevant. The purpose of [http://www.unheardtaunts.com/wir/ the list] that Gail Simone created is to be just that: a list. She has no theorizing, editorializing, speculating, or organizing (except maybe alphabetical &amp; chronological) on her list. I think this list is sort of an addendum to hers, and should follow suit. That said, if you want to change it back, please do. I don't think it's the most accurate thing to say that men were killed to serve another's story arc (especially since it's not in Simone's list, and it's not in [[Women in Refrigerators]]), but if you feel that strongly about it, go ahead an change it. :) - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 22:29, 12 January 2007 (EST)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: I'm sorry I upset you with my edit, that wasn't my intention. I was going off the discussion ([[Talk:Women_in_Refrigerators#Comparing_to_Men_in_Refrigerators|here]]) that though people are part of others' story arcs, it would be speculative to say the purpose a particular character serves. (True, Charlie augmented Hiro's story, but Charlie is still her own character). I still feel my edit is very relevant. The purpose of [http://www.unheardtaunts.com/wir/ the list] that Gail Simone created is to be just that: a list. She has no theorizing, editorializing, speculating, or organizing (except maybe alphabetical &amp; chronological) on her list. I think this list is sort of an addendum to hers, and should follow suit. That said, if you want to change it back, please do. I don't think it's the most accurate thing to say that men were killed to serve another's story arc (especially since it's not in Simone's list, and it's not in [[Women in Refrigerators]]), but if you feel that strongly about it, go ahead an change it. :) - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 22:29, 12 January 2007 (EST)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: I am not upset, but thank you for your concern. I chose to respond in the [[Talk: Women in Refrigerators]] page instead, as the topic seems to belong there. [[User:Cuardin|Cuardin]] 09:56, 14 January 2007 (EST)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Move Discussion==</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Move Discussion==</div></td> </tr> </table>

imported>Cuardin https://heroeswiki.ddns.net/index.php?title=Talk:Men_in_Refrigerators&diff=307450&oldid=prev 2007-01-13T20:01:44Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:01, 13 January 2007</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Other Character's Arc==</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>This appears to be a combined list of [[Sylar's victims]] and [[Jessica's victims]]. Inneressin'. - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 15:15, 12 January 2007 (EST)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>This appears to be a combined list of [[Sylar's victims]] and [[Jessica's victims]]. Inneressin'. - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 15:15, 12 January 2007 (EST)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 4:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 5:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: I'm sorry I upset you with my edit, that wasn't my intention. I was going off the discussion ([[Talk:Women_in_Refrigerators#Comparing_to_Men_in_Refrigerators|here]]) that though people are part of others' story arcs, it would be speculative to say the purpose a particular character serves. (True, Charlie augmented Hiro's story, but Charlie is still her own character). I still feel my edit is very relevant. The purpose of [http://www.unheardtaunts.com/wir/ the list] that Gail Simone created is to be just that: a list. She has no theorizing, editorializing, speculating, or organizing (except maybe alphabetical &amp; chronological) on her list. I think this list is sort of an addendum to hers, and should follow suit. That said, if you want to change it back, please do. I don't think it's the most accurate thing to say that men were killed to serve another's story arc (especially since it's not in Simone's list, and it's not in [[Women in Refrigerators]]), but if you feel that strongly about it, go ahead an change it. :) - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 22:29, 12 January 2007 (EST)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: I'm sorry I upset you with my edit, that wasn't my intention. I was going off the discussion ([[Talk:Women_in_Refrigerators#Comparing_to_Men_in_Refrigerators|here]]) that though people are part of others' story arcs, it would be speculative to say the purpose a particular character serves. (True, Charlie augmented Hiro's story, but Charlie is still her own character). I still feel my edit is very relevant. The purpose of [http://www.unheardtaunts.com/wir/ the list] that Gail Simone created is to be just that: a list. She has no theorizing, editorializing, speculating, or organizing (except maybe alphabetical &amp; chronological) on her list. I think this list is sort of an addendum to hers, and should follow suit. That said, if you want to change it back, please do. I don't think it's the most accurate thing to say that men were killed to serve another's story arc (especially since it's not in Simone's list, and it's not in [[Women in Refrigerators]]), but if you feel that strongly about it, go ahead an change it. :) - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 22:29, 12 January 2007 (EST)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Move Discussion==</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>(Anyone mind if we merge this chat area with [[Talk: Women in Refrigerators]] and make this a redirect? --[[User:Orne|Orne]] 22:35, 12 January 2007 (EST) )</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>(Anyone mind if we merge this chat area with [[Talk: Women in Refrigerators]] and make this a redirect? --[[User:Orne|Orne]] 22:35, 12 January 2007 (EST) )</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I think in general it wouldn't be a good idea to redirect one Talk page to another. What would sound reasonable is a link at the top of the discussion to [[Talk: Women in Refrigerators]] indicating that discussions on this general "in refrigerator" topic might also be found there. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 22:40, 12 January 2007 (EST))</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I think in general it wouldn't be a good idea to redirect one Talk page to another. What would sound reasonable is a link at the top of the discussion to [[Talk: Women in Refrigerators]] indicating that discussions on this general "in refrigerator" topic might also be found there. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 22:40, 12 January 2007 (EST))</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Agree, there are plenty of examples where a discussion is held on the "wrong" page, because either somebody started it there, or because an old discussion morphs into a new tangent. I think the discussions on this page, though, may reference [[Women in Refrigerators]], but it's mostly about [[Men in Refrigerators]]. - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 15:01, 13 January 2007 (EST)</div></td> </tr> </table>

imported>Ryangibsonstewart https://heroeswiki.ddns.net/index.php?title=Talk:Men_in_Refrigerators&diff=307449&oldid=prev 2007-01-13T03:40:11Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 03:40, 13 January 2007</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 6:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 6:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>(Anyone mind if we merge this chat area with [[Talk: Women in Refrigerators]] and make this a redirect? --[[User:Orne|Orne]] 22:35, 12 January 2007 (EST) )</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>(Anyone mind if we merge this chat area with [[Talk: Women in Refrigerators]] and make this a redirect? --[[User:Orne|Orne]] 22:35, 12 January 2007 (EST) )</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I think in general it wouldn't be a good idea to redirect one Talk page to another. What would sound reasonable is a link at the top of the discussion to [[Talk: Women in Refrigerators]] indicating that discussions on this general "in refrigerator" topic might also be found there. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 22:40, 12 January 2007 (EST))</div></td> </tr> </table>

imported>Admin https://heroeswiki.ddns.net/index.php?title=Talk:Men_in_Refrigerators&diff=307448&oldid=prev 2007-01-13T03:35:15Z

<p>comment</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 03:35, 13 January 2007</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 3:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 3:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Ryan, I strongly disagree with the edit you just did where you removed the "other character's arc" part. I think you should read up on what the purpose of the "Women in the Refrigerator"-list was and then get back to me if you still feel your edit was relevant. [[User:Cuardin|Cuardin]] 22:13, 12 January 2007 (EST)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Ryan, I strongly disagree with the edit you just did where you removed the "other character's arc" part. I think you should read up on what the purpose of the "Women in the Refrigerator"-list was and then get back to me if you still feel your edit was relevant. [[User:Cuardin|Cuardin]] 22:13, 12 January 2007 (EST)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: I'm sorry I upset you with my edit, that wasn't my intention. I was going off the discussion ([[Talk:Women_in_Refrigerators#Comparing_to_Men_in_Refrigerators|here]]) that though people are part of others' story arcs, it would be speculative to say the purpose a particular character serves. (True, Charlie augmented Hiro's story, but Charlie is still her own character). I still feel my edit is very relevant. The purpose of [http://www.unheardtaunts.com/wir/ the list] that Gail Simone created is to be just that: a list. She has no theorizing, editorializing, speculating, or organizing (except maybe alphabetical &amp; chronological) on her list. I think this list is sort of an addendum to hers, and should follow suit. That said, if you want to change it back, please do. I don't think it's the most accurate thing to say that men were killed to serve another's story arc (especially since it's not in Simone's list, and it's not in [[Women in Refrigerators]]), but if you feel that strongly about it, go ahead an change it. :) - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 22:29, 12 January 2007 (EST)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: I'm sorry I upset you with my edit, that wasn't my intention. I was going off the discussion ([[Talk:Women_in_Refrigerators#Comparing_to_Men_in_Refrigerators|here]]) that though people are part of others' story arcs, it would be speculative to say the purpose a particular character serves. (True, Charlie augmented Hiro's story, but Charlie is still her own character). I still feel my edit is very relevant. The purpose of [http://www.unheardtaunts.com/wir/ the list] that Gail Simone created is to be just that: a list. She has no theorizing, editorializing, speculating, or organizing (except maybe alphabetical &amp; chronological) on her list. I think this list is sort of an addendum to hers, and should follow suit. That said, if you want to change it back, please do. I don't think it's the most accurate thing to say that men were killed to serve another's story arc (especially since it's not in Simone's list, and it's not in [[Women in Refrigerators]]), but if you feel that strongly about it, go ahead an change it. :) - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 22:29, 12 January 2007 (EST)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>(Anyone mind if we merge this chat area with [[Talk: Women in Refrigerators]] and make this a redirect? --[[User:Orne|Orne]] 22:35, 12 January 2007 (EST) )</div></td> </tr> </table>

imported>Orne https://heroeswiki.ddns.net/index.php?title=Talk:Men_in_Refrigerators&diff=307447&oldid=prev 2007-01-13T03:29:31Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 03:29, 13 January 2007</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 2:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 2:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Ryan, I strongly disagree with the edit you just did where you removed the "other character's arc" part. I think you should read up on what the purpose of the "Women in the Refrigerator"-list was and then get back to me if you still feel your edit was relevant. [[User:Cuardin|Cuardin]] 22:13, 12 January 2007 (EST)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Ryan, I strongly disagree with the edit you just did where you removed the "other character's arc" part. I think you should read up on what the purpose of the "Women in the Refrigerator"-list was and then get back to me if you still feel your edit was relevant. [[User:Cuardin|Cuardin]] 22:13, 12 January 2007 (EST)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: I'm sorry I upset you with my edit, that wasn't my intention. I was going off the discussion ([[Talk:Women_in_Refrigerators#Comparing_to_Men_in_Refrigerators|here]]) that though people are part of others' story arcs, it would be speculative to say the purpose a particular character serves. (True, Charlie augmented Hiro's story, but Charlie is still her own character). I still feel my edit is very relevant. The purpose of [http://www.unheardtaunts.com/wir/ the list] that Gail Simone created is to be just that: a list. She has no theorizing, editorializing, speculating, or organizing (except maybe alphabetical &amp; chronological) on her list. I think this list is sort of an addendum to hers, and should follow suit. That said, if you want to change it back, please do. I don't think it's the most accurate thing to say that men were killed to serve another's story arc (especially since it's not in Simone's list, and it's not in [[Women in Refrigerators]]), but if you feel that strongly about it, go ahead an change it. :) - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 22:29, 12 January 2007 (EST)</div></td> </tr> <!-- diff cache key heroeswiki_dpl_en:diff:1.41:old-307446:rev-307447:wikidiff2=table:1.14.1:bc2a06be --> </table>

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