Talk:Mist mimicry - Revision history

imported>MiamiVolts: /* Mist mimicry */ note addition of sublimation redirect

2015-12-01T17:10:10Z

Mist mimicry: note addition of sublimation redirect

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imported>MiamiVolts: /* Mist mimicry */ note addition of sublimation redirect

2015-12-01T17:10:10Z

Mist mimicry: note addition of sublimation redirect

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	*** I agree then that the term "mimicry" is an appropriate descriptive term and not in question, now that I have some context for your quotes from the ebook. As for "mist mimicry", I am not opposed to the new name and I like the alliteration (mi-), whether intentional or not... As for sublimation, wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:List of superhuman features and abilities in fiction#Shapeshifting\|article]] describes "sublimation" as the ability to "transform into a gaseous, mist, or fog-like form", so I think a redirect from sublimation to this ability as "mist mimicry", after the rename, would be appropriate.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:56, 22 November 2015 (EST)		*** I agree then that the term "mimicry" is an appropriate descriptive term and not in question, now that I have some context for your quotes from the ebook. As for "mist mimicry", I am not opposed to the new name and I like the alliteration (mi-), whether intentional or not... As for sublimation, wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:List of superhuman features and abilities in fiction#Shapeshifting\|article]] describes "sublimation" as the ability to "transform into a gaseous, mist, or fog-like form", so I think a redirect from sublimation to this ability as "mist mimicry", after the rename, would be appropriate.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:56, 22 November 2015 (EST)
	**** A redirect is a good idea. And no, the alliteration is not intentional. Just looking for the most accurate name possible. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 15:29, 22 November 2015 (EST)		**** A redirect is a good idea. And no, the alliteration is not intentional. Just looking for the most accurate name possible. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 15:29, 22 November 2015 (EST)
			***** I've added the redirect of sublimation, which is my preference for the ability's name as it is a more generalized ability name. I'm still not opposed to mist mimicry, though, as I think it also applies to the ability (not because of the alliteration).--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 12:10, 1 December 2015 (EST)

imported>Ryangibsonstewart: update EOS

2015-11-24T21:31:57Z

update EOS

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	{{power names\|5\|eos=~~"Smoke~~ ~~mimicry"~~ ~~describes~~ ~~the priest~~'s ~~ability~~ to ~~mimic~~ ~~smoke~~}}		{{power names\|2\|eos=''[[A Matter of Trust]]'' says "He turned into mist" several times}}
	== Ability name? ==		== Ability name? ==

imported>Ryangibsonstewart: Ryangibsonstewart moved page Talk:Smoke mimicry to Talk:Mist mimicry: supported by book 2; see discussion

2015-11-24T21:31:02Z

Ryangibsonstewart moved page Talk:Smoke mimicry to Talk:Mist mimicry: supported by book 2; see discussion

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imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* Mist mimicry */

2015-11-22T20:29:20Z

Mist mimicry

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	** The books are near-canon, and the episodes are the primary source still. He mimics mist in that he is still able to see, hear, and speak while in mist form. He is also able to move where he wants while in the form. I dont think "mimicry" is the word in question, but "smoke" is. Mauricio only refers to himself as smoke during the first transformation, in which he also refers to himself as mist. Every other time (25 in all), he refers to himself as mist. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 09:29, 22 November 2015 (EST)		** The books are near-canon, and the episodes are the primary source still. He mimics mist in that he is still able to see, hear, and speak while in mist form. He is also able to move where he wants while in the form. I dont think "mimicry" is the word in question, but "smoke" is. Mauricio only refers to himself as smoke during the first transformation, in which he also refers to himself as mist. Every other time (25 in all), he refers to himself as mist. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 09:29, 22 November 2015 (EST)
	*** I agree then that the term "mimicry" is an appropriate descriptive term and not in question, now that I have some context for your quotes from the ebook. As for "mist mimicry", I am not opposed to the new name and I like the alliteration (mi-), whether intentional or not... As for sublimation, wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:List of superhuman features and abilities in fiction#Shapeshifting\|article]] describes "sublimation" as the ability to "transform into a gaseous, mist, or fog-like form", so I think a redirect from sublimation to this ability as "mist mimicry", after the rename, would be appropriate.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:56, 22 November 2015 (EST)		*** I agree then that the term "mimicry" is an appropriate descriptive term and not in question, now that I have some context for your quotes from the ebook. As for "mist mimicry", I am not opposed to the new name and I like the alliteration (mi-), whether intentional or not... As for sublimation, wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:List of superhuman features and abilities in fiction#Shapeshifting\|article]] describes "sublimation" as the ability to "transform into a gaseous, mist, or fog-like form", so I think a redirect from sublimation to this ability as "mist mimicry", after the rename, would be appropriate.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:56, 22 November 2015 (EST)
			**** A redirect is a good idea. And no, the alliteration is not intentional. Just looking for the most accurate name possible. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 15:29, 22 November 2015 (EST)

imported>MiamiVolts: /* Mist mimicry */ reply

2015-11-22T19:56:23Z

Mist mimicry: reply

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	* If mimicry is still okay as the ebook would be near-canon with the episodes still being the primary source, then I am okay with "mist mimicry". Mist-type sublimation is my proposed alternative (or just sublimation), the term sublimation coming from the shape shifting abilities section of Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:List of superhuman features and abilities in fiction#Shapeshifting\|List of superhuman features and abilities in fiction]] and meaning the scientific process of transforming from solid to gas.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 09:23, 22 November 2015 (EST)		* If mimicry is still okay as the ebook would be near-canon with the episodes still being the primary source, then I am okay with "mist mimicry". Mist-type sublimation is my proposed alternative (or just sublimation), the term sublimation coming from the shape shifting abilities section of Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:List of superhuman features and abilities in fiction#Shapeshifting\|List of superhuman features and abilities in fiction]] and meaning the scientific process of transforming from solid to gas.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 09:23, 22 November 2015 (EST)
	** The books are near-canon, and the episodes are the primary source still. He mimics mist in that he is still able to see, hear, and speak while in mist form. He is also able to move where he wants while in the form. I dont think "mimicry" is the word in question, but "smoke" is. Mauricio only refers to himself as smoke during the first transformation, in which he also refers to himself as mist. Every other time (25 in all), he refers to himself as mist. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 09:29, 22 November 2015 (EST)		** The books are near-canon, and the episodes are the primary source still. He mimics mist in that he is still able to see, hear, and speak while in mist form. He is also able to move where he wants while in the form. I dont think "mimicry" is the word in question, but "smoke" is. Mauricio only refers to himself as smoke during the first transformation, in which he also refers to himself as mist. Every other time (25 in all), he refers to himself as mist. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 09:29, 22 November 2015 (EST)
			*** I agree then that the term "mimicry" is an appropriate descriptive term and not in question, now that I have some context for your quotes from the ebook. As for "mist mimicry", I am not opposed to the new name and I like the alliteration (mi-), whether intentional or not... As for sublimation, wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:List of superhuman features and abilities in fiction#Shapeshifting\|article]] describes "sublimation" as the ability to "transform into a gaseous, mist, or fog-like form", so I think a redirect from sublimation to this ability as "mist mimicry", after the rename, would be appropriate.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:56, 22 November 2015 (EST)

imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* Mist mimicry */

2015-11-22T14:29:41Z

Mist mimicry

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	* Interesting... if the ebook notes he literally becomes mist, I'm not sure mimicry applies anymore.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 03:11, 22 November 2015 (EST)		* Interesting... if the ebook notes he literally becomes mist, I'm not sure mimicry applies anymore.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 03:11, 22 November 2015 (EST)
	* If mimicry is still okay as the ebook would be near-canon with the episodes still being the primary source, then I am okay with "mist mimicry". Mist-type sublimation is my proposed alternative (or just sublimation), the term sublimation coming from the shape shifting abilities section of Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:List of superhuman features and abilities in fiction#Shapeshifting\|List of superhuman features and abilities in fiction]] and meaning the scientific process of transforming from solid to gas.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 09:23, 22 November 2015 (EST)		* If mimicry is still okay as the ebook would be near-canon with the episodes still being the primary source, then I am okay with "mist mimicry". Mist-type sublimation is my proposed alternative (or just sublimation), the term sublimation coming from the shape shifting abilities section of Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:List of superhuman features and abilities in fiction#Shapeshifting\|List of superhuman features and abilities in fiction]] and meaning the scientific process of transforming from solid to gas.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 09:23, 22 November 2015 (EST)
			** The books are near-canon, and the episodes are the primary source still. He mimics mist in that he is still able to see, hear, and speak while in mist form. He is also able to move where he wants while in the form. I dont think "mimicry" is the word in question, but "smoke" is. Mauricio only refers to himself as smoke during the first transformation, in which he also refers to himself as mist. Every other time (25 in all), he refers to himself as mist. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 09:29, 22 November 2015 (EST)

imported>MiamiVolts: /* Mist mimicry */ propose alternative

2015-11-22T14:23:15Z

Mist mimicry: propose alternative

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	In reading ''[[A Matter of Trust]]'', it is clear to me that this needs to be renamed "mist mimicry". The book only refers to his power as smoke twice, and both times are when it first manifests, and both times use the term "mist" as well. However, the book talks anout him becoming "mist" 25 times, and often much more explicitly. "He turned into mist and floated up into the sky." "Then, turning into mist, he flowed across the sanctuary." "Mauricio pushed open the door and let it swing closed behind him, turning into mist and slipping through the gap." There are a bunch more with that same language. Most telling in my opinion is, "He was visible in daylight because sunlight reflected off the particles that made up his mist form." The only time I see that it s referred to as smoke is, "In the faint reflected glow from the still-burning headlights he could see a cloud of white smoke or mist gathered around him. No. Not around him. The cloud of smoke was him." I think this should be renamed "mist mimicry". -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:57, 21 November 2015 (EST)		In reading ''[[A Matter of Trust]]'', it is clear to me that this needs to be renamed "mist mimicry". The book only refers to his power as smoke twice, and both times are when it first manifests, and both times use the term "mist" as well. However, the book talks anout him becoming "mist" 25 times, and often much more explicitly. "He turned into mist and floated up into the sky." "Then, turning into mist, he flowed across the sanctuary." "Mauricio pushed open the door and let it swing closed behind him, turning into mist and slipping through the gap." There are a bunch more with that same language. Most telling in my opinion is, "He was visible in daylight because sunlight reflected off the particles that made up his mist form." The only time I see that it s referred to as smoke is, "In the faint reflected glow from the still-burning headlights he could see a cloud of white smoke or mist gathered around him. No. Not around him. The cloud of smoke was him." I think this should be renamed "mist mimicry". -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:57, 21 November 2015 (EST)
	* Interesting... if the ebook notes he literally becomes mist, I'm not sure mimicry applies anymore.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 03:11, 22 November 2015 (EST)		* Interesting... if the ebook notes he literally becomes mist, I'm not sure mimicry applies anymore.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 03:11, 22 November 2015 (EST)
			* If mimicry is still okay as the ebook would be near-canon with the episodes still being the primary source, then I am okay with "mist mimicry". Mist-type sublimation is my proposed alternative (or just sublimation), the term sublimation coming from the shape shifting abilities section of Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:List of superhuman features and abilities in fiction#Shapeshifting\|List of superhuman features and abilities in fiction]] and meaning the scientific process of transforming from solid to gas.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 09:23, 22 November 2015 (EST)

imported>MiamiVolts: /* Mist mimicry */ reply

2015-11-22T08:11:51Z

Mist mimicry: reply

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	== Mist mimicry ==		== Mist mimicry ==
	In reading ''[[A Matter of Trust]]'', it is clear to me that this needs to be renamed "mist mimicry". The book only refers to his power as smoke twice, and both times are when it first manifests, and both times use the term "mist" as well. However, the book talks anout him becoming "mist" 25 times, and often much more explicitly. "He turned into mist and floated up into the sky." "Then, turning into mist, he flowed across the sanctuary." "Mauricio pushed open the door and let it swing closed behind him, turning into mist and slipping through the gap." There are a bunch more with that same language. Most telling in my opinion is, "He was visible in daylight because sunlight reflected off the particles that made up his mist form." The only time I see that it s referred to as smoke is, "In the faint reflected glow from the still-burning headlights he could see a cloud of white smoke or mist gathered around him. No. Not around him. The cloud of smoke was him." I think this should be renamed "mist mimicry". -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:57, 21 November 2015 (EST)		In reading ''[[A Matter of Trust]]'', it is clear to me that this needs to be renamed "mist mimicry". The book only refers to his power as smoke twice, and both times are when it first manifests, and both times use the term "mist" as well. However, the book talks anout him becoming "mist" 25 times, and often much more explicitly. "He turned into mist and floated up into the sky." "Then, turning into mist, he flowed across the sanctuary." "Mauricio pushed open the door and let it swing closed behind him, turning into mist and slipping through the gap." There are a bunch more with that same language. Most telling in my opinion is, "He was visible in daylight because sunlight reflected off the particles that made up his mist form." The only time I see that it s referred to as smoke is, "In the faint reflected glow from the still-burning headlights he could see a cloud of white smoke or mist gathered around him. No. Not around him. The cloud of smoke was him." I think this should be renamed "mist mimicry". -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:57, 21 November 2015 (EST)
			* Interesting... if the ebook notes he literally becomes mist, I'm not sure mimicry applies anymore.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 03:11, 22 November 2015 (EST)

imported>Ryangibsonstewart at 03:57, 22 November 2015

2015-11-22T03:57:04Z

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	** Considering the "smoke" aspect is taken from a near-canonical source, this ability name is kind of a blend of #5 and #2. Changing it to gaseous form would take us in the wrong direction in my opinion. ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] ([[User talk:Admin\|talk]]) 15:49, 5 November 2015 (EST))		** Considering the "smoke" aspect is taken from a near-canonical source, this ability name is kind of a blend of #5 and #2. Changing it to gaseous form would take us in the wrong direction in my opinion. ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] ([[User talk:Admin\|talk]]) 15:49, 5 November 2015 (EST))
	*** Agree. the only reason it isn't listed as #2 right now is because the book hasnt been released. It will be updated on Nov. 20. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 18:02, 5 November 2015 (EST)		*** Agree. the only reason it isn't listed as #2 right now is because the book hasnt been released. It will be updated on Nov. 20. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 18:02, 5 November 2015 (EST)

			== Mist mimicry ==
			In reading ''[[A Matter of Trust]]'', it is clear to me that this needs to be renamed "mist mimicry". The book only refers to his power as smoke twice, and both times are when it first manifests, and both times use the term "mist" as well. However, the book talks anout him becoming "mist" 25 times, and often much more explicitly. "He turned into mist and floated up into the sky." "Then, turning into mist, he flowed across the sanctuary." "Mauricio pushed open the door and let it swing closed behind him, turning into mist and slipping through the gap." There are a bunch more with that same language. Most telling in my opinion is, "He was visible in daylight because sunlight reflected off the particles that made up his mist form." The only time I see that it s referred to as smoke is, "In the faint reflected glow from the still-burning headlights he could see a cloud of white smoke or mist gathered around him. No. Not around him. The cloud of smoke was him." I think this should be renamed "mist mimicry". -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:57, 21 November 2015 (EST)