Talk:Montecito Casino - Revision history

imported>MiamiVolts: /* Set Up For A Crossover? */ Yeah, it's too subtle. They could do much more imho

2007-06-02T02:19:32Z

Set Up For A Crossover?: Yeah, it's too subtle. They could do much more imho

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imported>MiamiVolts: /* Set Up For A Crossover? */ Yeah, it's too subtle. They could do much more imho

2007-06-02T02:19:32Z

Set Up For A Crossover?: Yeah, it's too subtle. They could do much more imho

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	* It would be interesting to have a Heroes/Vegas crossover. I was thinking that might only happen in the graphic novels cause the storyline is already mostly planned, but now that there's also Heroes:Origins to play with I think it could happen on tv. However, the odds are better for a GN.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 20:46, 1 June 2007 (EDT)		* It would be interesting to have a Heroes/Vegas crossover. I was thinking that might only happen in the graphic novels cause the storyline is already mostly planned, but now that there's also Heroes:Origins to play with I think it could happen on tv. However, the odds are better for a GN.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 20:46, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
	**There's been a lot of subtle crossover stuff already, most notably that they filmed the ''Heroes'' scenes for the Montecito in the same location as the casino in ''Las Vegas''. And of course many actors (including [[Lestat]]) have appeared on both shows. Check out ''[[Las Vegas (TV series)]]'' for more information about the connection. {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:50, 1 June 2007 (EDT)		**There's been a lot of subtle crossover stuff already, most notably that they filmed the ''Heroes'' scenes for the Montecito in the same location as the casino in ''Las Vegas''. And of course many actors (including [[Lestat]]) have appeared on both shows. Check out ''[[Las Vegas (TV series)]]'' for more information about the connection. {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:50, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
			***Yes, it's been too subtle. I think they could do a really good crossover with more of the cast in an Origins episode.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 22:19, 1 June 2007 (EDT)

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imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* Set Up For A Crossover? */

2007-06-02T00:50:42Z

Set Up For A Crossover?

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	Has there been any rumor that they're planning a crossover between Heroes and Las Vegas? If memory serves, Tim Kring was instrumental in Crossing Jordan, which had multiple crossovers on that series. I doubt Ed Deline is secretly Linderman, but might be fun to learn his reaction if it's established that Deline's reality also houses metahumans. I might actually start watching Las Vegas again if they incorporate that. -- [[User:ZachsMind\|ZachsMind]] 13:42, 14 February 2007 (EST)		Has there been any rumor that they're planning a crossover between Heroes and Las Vegas? If memory serves, Tim Kring was instrumental in Crossing Jordan, which had multiple crossovers on that series. I doubt Ed Deline is secretly Linderman, but might be fun to learn his reaction if it's established that Deline's reality also houses metahumans. I might actually start watching Las Vegas again if they incorporate that. -- [[User:ZachsMind\|ZachsMind]] 13:42, 14 February 2007 (EST)
	* It would be interesting to have a Heroes/Vegas crossover. I was thinking that might only happen in the graphic novels cause the storyline is already mostly planned, but now that there's also Heroes:Origins to play with I think it could happen on tv. However, the odds are better for a GN.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 20:46, 1 June 2007 (EDT)		* It would be interesting to have a Heroes/Vegas crossover. I was thinking that might only happen in the graphic novels cause the storyline is already mostly planned, but now that there's also Heroes:Origins to play with I think it could happen on tv. However, the odds are better for a GN.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 20:46, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
			**There's been a lot of subtle crossover stuff already, most notably that they filmed the ''Heroes'' scenes for the Montecito in the same location as the casino in ''Las Vegas''. And of course many actors (including [[Lestat]]) have appeared on both shows. Check out ''[[Las Vegas (TV series)]]'' for more information about the connection. {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:50, 1 June 2007 (EDT)

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imported>MiamiVolts: /* Set Up For A Crossover? */ That would be cool.

2007-06-02T00:46:43Z

Set Up For A Crossover?: That would be cool.

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	*** Nathan goes back to the casino, runs into Niki, settles up his bill, and confronts Sakamoto about the blackmail, too.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 03:16, 4 December 2006 (EST)		*** Nathan goes back to the casino, runs into Niki, settles up his bill, and confronts Sakamoto about the blackmail, too.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 03:16, 4 December 2006 (EST)

	== Set Up For A ~~Fall~~? ==		== Set Up For A Crossover? ==

	Has there been any rumor that they're planning a crossover between Heroes and Las Vegas? If memory serves, Tim Kring was instrumental in Crossing Jordan, which had multiple crossovers on that series. I doubt Ed Deline is secretly Linderman, but might be fun to learn his reaction if it's established that Deline's reality also houses metahumans. I might actually start watching Las Vegas again if they incorporate that. -- [[User:ZachsMind\|ZachsMind]] 13:42, 14 February 2007 (EST)		Has there been any rumor that they're planning a crossover between Heroes and Las Vegas? If memory serves, Tim Kring was instrumental in Crossing Jordan, which had multiple crossovers on that series. I doubt Ed Deline is secretly Linderman, but might be fun to learn his reaction if it's established that Deline's reality also houses metahumans. I might actually start watching Las Vegas again if they incorporate that. -- [[User:ZachsMind\|ZachsMind]] 13:42, 14 February 2007 (EST)
			* It would be interesting to have a Heroes/Vegas crossover. I was thinking that might only happen in the graphic novels cause the storyline is already mostly planned, but now that there's also Heroes:Origins to play with I think it could happen on tv. However, the odds are better for a GN.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 20:46, 1 June 2007 (EDT)

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imported>$igmund: /* Props mix-up at NBC? */

2007-02-21T21:44:55Z

Props mix-up at NBC?

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	== Props mix-up at NBC? ==		== Props mix-up at NBC? ==

	As ~~notes~~ in another post here, the Montecito is the casino fron the series "Las Vegas". I don't remember the name of the casino being mentioned in the show, but I know that people who signed up for the mailing list at Primatechpaper.com have recieved emails from the Corinthian Las Vegas.		As noted in another post here, the Montecito is the casino fron the series "Las Vegas". I don't remember the name of the casino being mentioned in the show, but I know that people who signed up for the mailing list at Primatechpaper.com have recieved emails from the Corinthian Las Vegas.

imported>$igmund: Props mix-up at NBC?

2007-02-21T21:44:40Z

Props mix-up at NBC?

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	*Hey, I wouldn't mind making pages for all those locations. Is that overkill? If we do that, we might want to have a seperate category for locations in the casino. [[User:Hakkun\|Hakkun]] 14:36, 19 February 2007 (EST)		*Hey, I wouldn't mind making pages for all those locations. Is that overkill? If we do that, we might want to have a seperate category for locations in the casino. [[User:Hakkun\|Hakkun]] 14:36, 19 February 2007 (EST)
	**Nathan's hotel room and maybe the casino floor I can see. There's more detail than is mentioned in this article, at least, though truth be told I'm not completely sold on [[Hope's dressing room]] (especially since it's not really ''her'' dressing room ... it seems to be everybody's) and [[Steve's hotel room]]. The elevator and the closet ... I dunno. At least with the closet you can talk about the props that are stored there, but neither of these seems to provide anything above and beyond what's in the main article. Plus, it's a precedent I'm not sure we need to set, lest we end up with <span style="color:red;">Peter's guest bathroom</span>.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 14:43, 19 February 2007 (EST)		**Nathan's hotel room and maybe the casino floor I can see. There's more detail than is mentioned in this article, at least, though truth be told I'm not completely sold on [[Hope's dressing room]] (especially since it's not really ''her'' dressing room ... it seems to be everybody's) and [[Steve's hotel room]]. The elevator and the closet ... I dunno. At least with the closet you can talk about the props that are stored there, but neither of these seems to provide anything above and beyond what's in the main article. Plus, it's a precedent I'm not sure we need to set, lest we end up with <span style="color:red;">Peter's guest bathroom</span>.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 14:43, 19 February 2007 (EST)

			== Props mix-up at NBC? ==

			As notes in another post here, the Montecito is the casino fron the series "Las Vegas". I don't remember the name of the casino being mentioned in the show, but I know that people who signed up for the mailing list at Primatechpaper.com have recieved emails from the Corinthian Las Vegas.

imported>Hardvice: fix link

2007-02-19T19:46:36Z

fix link

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	I listed all the notable locations I could; that is, I added all the places I was able to think of where some kind of important action occurs. Do we want to leave all the locations as they are on this page, or do we just want the linked ones? — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 00:31, 19 February 2007 (EST)		I listed all the notable locations I could; that is, I added all the places I was able to think of where some kind of important action occurs. Do we want to leave all the locations as they are on this page, or do we just want the linked ones? — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 00:31, 19 February 2007 (EST)
	*Hey, I wouldn't mind making pages for all those locations. Is that overkill? If we do that, we might want to have a seperate category for locations in the casino. [[User:Hakkun\|Hakkun]] 14:36, 19 February 2007 (EST)		*Hey, I wouldn't mind making pages for all those locations. Is that overkill? If we do that, we might want to have a seperate category for locations in the casino. [[User:Hakkun\|Hakkun]] 14:36, 19 February 2007 (EST)
	**Nathan's hotel room and maybe the casino floor I can see. There's more detail than is mentioned in this article, at least, though truth be told I'm not completely sold on [[Hope's dressing room]] (especially since it's not really ''her'' dressing room ... it seems to be everybody's) and [[Steve ~~Gustavson~~'s hotel room]]. The elevator and the closet ... I dunno. At least with the closet you can talk about the props that are stored there, but neither of these seems to provide anything above and beyond what's in the main article. Plus, it's a precedent I'm not sure we need to set, lest we end up with <span style="color:red;">Peter's guest bathroom</span>.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 14:43, 19 February 2007 (EST)		**Nathan's hotel room and maybe the casino floor I can see. There's more detail than is mentioned in this article, at least, though truth be told I'm not completely sold on [[Hope's dressing room]] (especially since it's not really ''her'' dressing room ... it seems to be everybody's) and [[Steve's hotel room]]. The elevator and the closet ... I dunno. At least with the closet you can talk about the props that are stored there, but neither of these seems to provide anything above and beyond what's in the main article. Plus, it's a precedent I'm not sure we need to set, lest we end up with <span style="color:red;">Peter's guest bathroom</span>.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 14:43, 19 February 2007 (EST)

imported>Hardvice: expand

2007-02-19T19:45:59Z

expand

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	I listed all the notable locations I could; that is, I added all the places I was able to think of where some kind of important action occurs. Do we want to leave all the locations as they are on this page, or do we just want the linked ones? — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 00:31, 19 February 2007 (EST)		I listed all the notable locations I could; that is, I added all the places I was able to think of where some kind of important action occurs. Do we want to leave all the locations as they are on this page, or do we just want the linked ones? — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 00:31, 19 February 2007 (EST)
	*Hey, I wouldn't mind making pages for all those locations. Is that overkill? If we do that, we might want to have a seperate category for locations in the casino. [[User:Hakkun\|Hakkun]] 14:36, 19 February 2007 (EST)		*Hey, I wouldn't mind making pages for all those locations. Is that overkill? If we do that, we might want to have a seperate category for locations in the casino. [[User:Hakkun\|Hakkun]] 14:36, 19 February 2007 (EST)
	**Nathan's hotel room and maybe the casino floor I can see. There's more detail than is mentioned in this article, at least. The elevator and the closet ... I dunno. At least with the closet you can talk about the props that are stored there, but neither of these seems to provide anything above and beyond what's in the main article. Plus, it's a precedent I'm not sure we need to set, lest we end up with <span style="color:red;">Peter's guest bathroom</span>.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 14:43, 19 February 2007 (EST)		**Nathan's hotel room and maybe the casino floor I can see. There's more detail than is mentioned in this article, at least, though truth be told I'm not completely sold on [[Hope's dressing room]] (especially since it's not really ''her'' dressing room ... it seems to be everybody's) and [[Steve Gustavson's hotel room]]. The elevator and the closet ... I dunno. At least with the closet you can talk about the props that are stored there, but neither of these seems to provide anything above and beyond what's in the main article. Plus, it's a precedent I'm not sure we need to set, lest we end up with <span style="color:red;">Peter's guest bathroom</span>.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 14:43, 19 February 2007 (EST)

imported>Hardvice at 19:43, 19 February 2007

2007-02-19T19:43:56Z

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	I listed all the notable locations I could; that is, I added all the places I was able to think of where some kind of important action occurs. Do we want to leave all the locations as they are on this page, or do we just want the linked ones? — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 00:31, 19 February 2007 (EST)		I listed all the notable locations I could; that is, I added all the places I was able to think of where some kind of important action occurs. Do we want to leave all the locations as they are on this page, or do we just want the linked ones? — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 00:31, 19 February 2007 (EST)
	*Hey, I wouldn't mind making pages for all those locations. Is that overkill? If we do that, we might want to have a seperate category for locations in the casino. [[User:Hakkun\|Hakkun]] 14:36, 19 February 2007 (EST)		*Hey, I wouldn't mind making pages for all those locations. Is that overkill? If we do that, we might want to have a seperate category for locations in the casino. [[User:Hakkun\|Hakkun]] 14:36, 19 February 2007 (EST)
			**Nathan's hotel room and maybe the casino floor I can see. There's more detail than is mentioned in this article, at least. The elevator and the closet ... I dunno. At least with the closet you can talk about the props that are stored there, but neither of these seems to provide anything above and beyond what's in the main article. Plus, it's a precedent I'm not sure we need to set, lest we end up with <span style="color:red;">Peter's guest bathroom</span>.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 14:43, 19 February 2007 (EST)

imported>Hakkun: /* Notable Locations */ talk

2007-02-19T19:36:01Z

Notable Locations: talk

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	I listed all the notable locations I could; that is, I added all the places I was able to think of where some kind of important action occurs. Do we want to leave all the locations as they are on this page, or do we just want the linked ones? — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 00:31, 19 February 2007 (EST)		I listed all the notable locations I could; that is, I added all the places I was able to think of where some kind of important action occurs. Do we want to leave all the locations as they are on this page, or do we just want the linked ones? — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 00:31, 19 February 2007 (EST)
			*Hey, I wouldn't mind making pages for all those locations. Is that overkill? If we do that, we might want to have a seperate category for locations in the casino. [[User:Hakkun\|Hakkun]] 14:36, 19 February 2007 (EST)

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	I listed all the notable locations I could; that is, I added all the places I was able to think of where some kind of important action occurs. Do we want to leave all the locations as they are on this page, or do we just want the linked ones? — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 00:31, 19 February 2007 (EST)		I listed all the notable locations I could; that is, I added all the places I was able to think of where some kind of important action occurs. Do we want to leave all the locations as they are on this page, or do we just want the linked ones? — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 00:31, 19 February 2007 (EST)
	*Hey, I wouldn't mind making pages for all those locations. Is that overkill? If we do that, we might want to have a seperate category for locations in the casino. [[User:Hakkun\|Hakkun]] 14:36, 19 February 2007 (EST)		*Hey, I wouldn't mind making pages for all those locations. Is that overkill? If we do that, we might want to have a seperate category for locations in the casino. [[User:Hakkun\|Hakkun]] 14:36, 19 February 2007 (EST)
	**Nathan's hotel room and maybe the casino floor I can see. There's more detail than is mentioned in this article, at least, though truth be told I'm not completely sold on [[Hope's dressing room]] (especially since it's not really ''her'' dressing room ... it seems to be everybody's) and [[Steve ~~Gustavson~~'s hotel room]]. The elevator and the closet ... I dunno. At least with the closet you can talk about the props that are stored there, but neither of these seems to provide anything above and beyond what's in the main article. Plus, it's a precedent I'm not sure we need to set, lest we end up with <span style="color:red;">Peter's guest bathroom</span>.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 14:43, 19 February 2007 (EST)		**Nathan's hotel room and maybe the casino floor I can see. There's more detail than is mentioned in this article, at least, though truth be told I'm not completely sold on [[Hope's dressing room]] (especially since it's not really ''her'' dressing room ... it seems to be everybody's) and [[Steve's hotel room]]. The elevator and the closet ... I dunno. At least with the closet you can talk about the props that are stored there, but neither of these seems to provide anything above and beyond what's in the main article. Plus, it's a precedent I'm not sure we need to set, lest we end up with <span style="color:red;">Peter's guest bathroom</span>.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 14:43, 19 February 2007 (EST)

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	I listed all the notable locations I could; that is, I added all the places I was able to think of where some kind of important action occurs. Do we want to leave all the locations as they are on this page, or do we just want the linked ones? — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 00:31, 19 February 2007 (EST)		I listed all the notable locations I could; that is, I added all the places I was able to think of where some kind of important action occurs. Do we want to leave all the locations as they are on this page, or do we just want the linked ones? — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 00:31, 19 February 2007 (EST)
	*Hey, I wouldn't mind making pages for all those locations. Is that overkill? If we do that, we might want to have a seperate category for locations in the casino. [[User:Hakkun\|Hakkun]] 14:36, 19 February 2007 (EST)		*Hey, I wouldn't mind making pages for all those locations. Is that overkill? If we do that, we might want to have a seperate category for locations in the casino. [[User:Hakkun\|Hakkun]] 14:36, 19 February 2007 (EST)
	**Nathan's hotel room and maybe the casino floor I can see. There's more detail than is mentioned in this article, at least. The elevator and the closet ... I dunno. At least with the closet you can talk about the props that are stored there, but neither of these seems to provide anything above and beyond what's in the main article. Plus, it's a precedent I'm not sure we need to set, lest we end up with <span style="color:red;">Peter's guest bathroom</span>.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 14:43, 19 February 2007 (EST)		**Nathan's hotel room and maybe the casino floor I can see. There's more detail than is mentioned in this article, at least, though truth be told I'm not completely sold on [[Hope's dressing room]] (especially since it's not really ''her'' dressing room ... it seems to be everybody's) and [[Steve Gustavson's hotel room]]. The elevator and the closet ... I dunno. At least with the closet you can talk about the props that are stored there, but neither of these seems to provide anything above and beyond what's in the main article. Plus, it's a precedent I'm not sure we need to set, lest we end up with <span style="color:red;">Peter's guest bathroom</span>.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 14:43, 19 February 2007 (EST)

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	I listed all the notable locations I could; that is, I added all the places I was able to think of where some kind of important action occurs. Do we want to leave all the locations as they are on this page, or do we just want the linked ones? — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 00:31, 19 February 2007 (EST)		I listed all the notable locations I could; that is, I added all the places I was able to think of where some kind of important action occurs. Do we want to leave all the locations as they are on this page, or do we just want the linked ones? — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 00:31, 19 February 2007 (EST)
	*Hey, I wouldn't mind making pages for all those locations. Is that overkill? If we do that, we might want to have a seperate category for locations in the casino. [[User:Hakkun\|Hakkun]] 14:36, 19 February 2007 (EST)		*Hey, I wouldn't mind making pages for all those locations. Is that overkill? If we do that, we might want to have a seperate category for locations in the casino. [[User:Hakkun\|Hakkun]] 14:36, 19 February 2007 (EST)
			**Nathan's hotel room and maybe the casino floor I can see. There's more detail than is mentioned in this article, at least. The elevator and the closet ... I dunno. At least with the closet you can talk about the props that are stored there, but neither of these seems to provide anything above and beyond what's in the main article. Plus, it's a precedent I'm not sure we need to set, lest we end up with <span style="color:red;">Peter's guest bathroom</span>.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 14:43, 19 February 2007 (EST)