Talk:Nathan Petrelli - Revision history

imported>Sandubadear: /* Why */

2015-11-20T22:37:32Z

Why

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imported>Sandubadear: /* Why */

2015-11-20T22:37:32Z

Why

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	his date of death is not listed? [[User:Sandubadear\|Sandubadear]] ([[User talk:Sandubadear\|talk]]) 18:41, 29 October 2015 (EDT)		his date of death is not listed? [[User:Sandubadear\|Sandubadear]] ([[User talk:Sandubadear\|talk]]) 18:41, 29 October 2015 (EDT)
	* I would assume it's because we don't have an in-world date for it. ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] ([[User talk:Admin\|talk]]) 20:12, 29 October 2015 (EDT))		* I would assume it's because we don't have an in-world date for it. ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] ([[User talk:Admin\|talk]]) 20:12, 29 October 2015 (EDT))
			*:You can add just the year, I'm sure you guys know the year. [[User:Sandubadear\|Sandubadear]] ([[User talk:Sandubadear\|talk]]) 17:37, 20 November 2015 (EST)

imported>Admin: /* Why */

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Why

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	his date of death is not listed? [[User:Sandubadear\|Sandubadear]] ([[User talk:Sandubadear\|talk]]) 18:41, 29 October 2015 (EDT)		his date of death is not listed? [[User:Sandubadear\|Sandubadear]] ([[User talk:Sandubadear\|talk]]) 18:41, 29 October 2015 (EDT)
			* I would assume it's because we don't have an in-world date for it. ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] ([[User talk:Admin\|talk]]) 20:12, 29 October 2015 (EDT))

imported>Sandubadear: /* Upon This Rock/Let It Bleed */

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Upon This Rock/Let It Bleed

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	==Upon This Rock/Let It Bleed==		==Upon This Rock/Let It Bleed==
	''How'' did they fake his death? ''Who'' faked it? Was it just Peter and Noah, or was President Dorn cleaning up loose ends....? ''Why'' a plane crash? Couldn't it have been something simpler <small>(Yes, [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/simpler simpler] is a word)</small> like a house fire? (After all, he ''was'' an accomplished pilot.) --{{User:Boycool42/sig1}} 11:13, 7 June 2010 (EDT)		''How'' did they fake his death? ''Who'' faked it? Was it just Peter and Noah, or was President Dorn cleaning up loose ends....? ''Why'' a plane crash? Couldn't it have been something simpler <small>(Yes, [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/simpler simpler] is a word)</small> like a house fire? (After all, he ''was'' an accomplished pilot.) --{{User:Boycool42/sig1}} 11:13, 7 June 2010 (EDT)

			==Why==
			his date of death is not listed? [[User:Sandubadear\|Sandubadear]] ([[User talk:Sandubadear\|talk]]) 18:41, 29 October 2015 (EDT)

imported>Boycool42: /* Upon This Rock/Let It Bleed */

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Upon This Rock/Let It Bleed

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	==Upon This Rock/Let It Bleed==		==Upon This Rock/Let It Bleed==
	''How'' did they fake his death? ''Who'' faked it? Was it just Peter and Noah, or was President Dorn cleaning up loose ends....? ''Why'' a plane crash? Couldn't it have been something simpler <small>(Yes, [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/simpler simpler] is a word)</small> like a house fire? (~~Anyways~~, he ''was'' an accomplished pilot.) --{{User:Boycool42/sig1}} 11:13, 7 June 2010 (EDT)		''How'' did they fake his death? ''Who'' faked it? Was it just Peter and Noah, or was President Dorn cleaning up loose ends....? ''Why'' a plane crash? Couldn't it have been something simpler <small>(Yes, [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/simpler simpler] is a word)</small> like a house fire? (After all, he ''was'' an accomplished pilot.) --{{User:Boycool42/sig1}} 11:13, 7 June 2010 (EDT)

imported>Boycool42 at 15:13, 7 June 2010

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	why could nathan still fly when he was in sylars body, was this just telekinesis and if not couldn't matt give everybody any power he wants?[[User:Angel0941\|Angel0941]] 11:11, 21 February 2010 (EST)		why could nathan still fly when he was in sylars body, was this just telekinesis and if not couldn't matt give everybody any power he wants?[[User:Angel0941\|Angel0941]] 11:11, 21 February 2010 (EST)
	*Because Sylar has his ability to fly. He took it empathically. And are you talking about baby matt? No, he couldn't give people any power. Probably just activate and deactivate their powers. --[[User:Mc hammark\|mc_hammark]] 11:42, 21 February 2010 (EST)		*Because Sylar has his ability to fly. He took it empathically. And are you talking about baby matt? No, he couldn't give people any power. Probably just activate and deactivate their powers. --[[User:Mc hammark\|mc_hammark]] 11:42, 21 February 2010 (EST)

			==Upon This Rock/Let It Bleed==
			''How'' did they fake his death? ''Who'' faked it? Was it just Peter and Noah, or was President Dorn cleaning up loose ends....? ''Why'' a plane crash? Couldn't it have been something simpler <small>(Yes, [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/simpler simpler] is a word)</small> like a house fire? (Anyways, he ''was'' an accomplished pilot.) --{{User:Boycool42/sig1}} 11:13, 7 June 2010 (EDT)

imported>PJDEP at 04:25, 21 April 2010

2010-04-21T04:25:53Z

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imported>Yoshi n1: Damian

2010-03-01T17:31:03Z

Damian

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	****** I removed the spoiler from your above post. Until something is confirmed on the show, we'll go with what we know--Nathan is dead. Sylar has shape shifted into Nathan's form. Matt telepathically convinced Sylar that his was Nathan. Sylar has seen Nathan's memories, and believes that they are his. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 15:08, 7 November 2009 (EST)		****** I removed the spoiler from your above post. Until something is confirmed on the show, we'll go with what we know--Nathan is dead. Sylar has shape shifted into Nathan's form. Matt telepathically convinced Sylar that his was Nathan. Sylar has seen Nathan's memories, and believes that they are his. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 15:08, 7 November 2009 (EST)
	******* Then explain to me why is Sylar having Nathan's memories coming back instead of his, since he can't be "convinced to be Nathan", as he got amnesia. Matt didn't just convinced him. He totally replace Sylar's memories by Nathan's. So what, he just got his body, his feelings, his life... He doesn't react like Sylar actually ("call me Nathan", "I used to shake hands..." , Tracy...) so... It's not a mind trick, Sylar took everything from Nathan, and now it has created a whole new entity. It's not Sylar, it's schizophrenia. Actually no, Sylar is not in this body anymore since he's in Matt. You think we will never see Nathan again, and I think it's just a matter of time before he gets his memory (Nathan's) back, as shown in recent episodes. All the choices he makes, are now based on what the real Nathan used to live. Then I don't think he'll choose to be Sylar instead of Nathan, if Matt doesn't transfer his evil Sylar. Those memories, those feelings, those experiences... It's what makes a person. Sylar didn't have that from himself, he got that from Nathan by supernatural way, that's why he acts a way he shouldn't. Nathan's life has changed his way of thinking, which matches the real Nathan. I mean, I know it's not the most logical way to think, but they took some easy path to write this story. Sylar shouldn't have all of Nathan's memories, unless he wears the same underwear since 4 years, Matt shouldn't have Sylar's mind in him, let's not talk about the hunger, nor Peter, and the new Nathan should just be a lost Sylar... But then again, for the good of the story, and to high up the stakes, they decided to make some things the way they are... So OK for now, we don't have much shown in the show (but I have to say that there's a lot of things that aren't even discussed in it so...), but I hope you'll consider something else, if it is hinted in the next episodes.		******* Then explain to me why is Sylar having Nathan's memories coming back instead of his, since he can't be "convinced to be Nathan", as he got amnesia. Matt didn't just convinced him. He totally replace Sylar's memories by Nathan's. So what, he just got his body, his feelings, his life... He doesn't react like Sylar actually ("call me Nathan", "I used to shake hands..." , Tracy...) so... It's not a mind trick, Sylar took everything from Nathan, and now it has created a whole new entity. It's not Sylar, it's schizophrenia. Actually no, Sylar is not in this body anymore since he's in Matt. You think we will never see Nathan again, and I think it's just a matter of time before he gets his memory (Nathan's) back, as shown in recent episodes. All the choices he makes, are now based on what the real Nathan used to live. Then I don't think he'll choose to be Sylar instead of Nathan, if Matt doesn't transfer his evil Sylar. Those memories, those feelings, those experiences... It's what makes a person. Sylar didn't have that from himself, he got that from Nathan by supernatural way, that's why he acts a way he shouldn't. Nathan's life has changed his way of thinking, which matches the real Nathan. I mean, I know it's not the most logical way to think, but they took some easy path to write this story. Sylar shouldn't have all of Nathan's memories, unless he wears the same underwear since 4 years, Matt shouldn't have Sylar's mind in him, let's not talk about the hunger, nor Peter, and the new Nathan should just be a lost Sylar... But then again, for the good of the story, and to high up the stakes, they decided to make some things the way they are... So OK for now, we don't have much shown in the show (but I have to say that there's a lot of things that aren't even discussed in it so...), but I hope you'll consider something else, if it is hinted in the next episodes.
	********Basically guys, Matt locked Sylar's memories in a "safe", but left Nathan's memories. His brain, only knowing Nathan's memories, just assumed that they were his. Only [[~~Damien~~]] is able to get into this "safe". --[[User:Mc hammark\|mc_hammark]] 15:39, 7 November 2009 (EST)		********Basically guys, Matt locked Sylar's memories in a "safe", but left Nathan's memories. His brain, only knowing Nathan's memories, just assumed that they were his. Only [[Damian]] is able to get into this "safe". --[[User:Mc hammark\|mc_hammark]] 15:39, 7 November 2009 (EST)

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imported>Mc hammark: /* Get over it! */

2010-02-21T16:42:31Z

Get over it!

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	*Maybe they just want to highlight the fact that a major character actually died. For good.--[[User:PJDEP\|PJDEP]] - [[User Talk:PJDEP\|Need further explanation?]] 15:15, 9 February 2010 (EST)		*Maybe they just want to highlight the fact that a major character actually died. For good.--[[User:PJDEP\|PJDEP]] - [[User Talk:PJDEP\|Need further explanation?]] 15:15, 9 February 2010 (EST)

			==How could Sythan Fly?==
	why could nathan still fly when he was in sylars body, was this just telekinesis and if not couldn't matt give everybody any power he wants?[[User:Angel0941\|Angel0941]] 11:11, 21 February 2010 (EST)		why could nathan still fly when he was in sylars body, was this just telekinesis and if not couldn't matt give everybody any power he wants?[[User:Angel0941\|Angel0941]] 11:11, 21 February 2010 (EST)
			*Because Sylar has his ability to fly. He took it empathically. And are you talking about baby matt? No, he couldn't give people any power. Probably just activate and deactivate their powers. --[[User:Mc hammark\|mc_hammark]] 11:42, 21 February 2010 (EST)

imported>Angel0941 at 16:11, 21 February 2010

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	Is it just me or is anyone else kinda weirded out by the fact that Nathan's only ''not'' been referenced to in one episode since his character lost the fight to Sylar? --[[User:Mc hammark\|mc_hammark]] 14:12, 9 February 2010 (EST)		Is it just me or is anyone else kinda weirded out by the fact that Nathan's only ''not'' been referenced to in one episode since his character lost the fight to Sylar? --[[User:Mc hammark\|mc_hammark]] 14:12, 9 February 2010 (EST)
	*Maybe they just want to highlight the fact that a major character actually died. For good.--[[User:PJDEP\|PJDEP]] - [[User Talk:PJDEP\|Need further explanation?]] 15:15, 9 February 2010 (EST)		*Maybe they just want to highlight the fact that a major character actually died. For good.--[[User:PJDEP\|PJDEP]] - [[User Talk:PJDEP\|Need further explanation?]] 15:15, 9 February 2010 (EST)

			why could nathan still fly when he was in sylars body, was this just telekinesis and if not couldn't matt give everybody any power he wants?[[User:Angel0941\|Angel0941]] 11:11, 21 February 2010 (EST)

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	his date of death is not listed? [[User:Sandubadear\|Sandubadear]] ([[User talk:Sandubadear\|talk]]) 18:41, 29 October 2015 (EDT)		his date of death is not listed? [[User:Sandubadear\|Sandubadear]] ([[User talk:Sandubadear\|talk]]) 18:41, 29 October 2015 (EDT)
	* I would assume it's because we don't have an in-world date for it. ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] ([[User talk:Admin\|talk]]) 20:12, 29 October 2015 (EDT))		* I would assume it's because we don't have an in-world date for it. ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] ([[User talk:Admin\|talk]]) 20:12, 29 October 2015 (EDT))
			*:You can add just the year, I'm sure you guys know the year. [[User:Sandubadear\|Sandubadear]] ([[User talk:Sandubadear\|talk]]) 17:37, 20 November 2015 (EST)

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	Is it just me or is anyone else kinda weirded out by the fact that Nathan's only ''not'' been referenced to in one episode since his character lost the fight to Sylar? --[[User:Mc hammark\|mc_hammark]] 14:12, 9 February 2010 (EST)		Is it just me or is anyone else kinda weirded out by the fact that Nathan's only ''not'' been referenced to in one episode since his character lost the fight to Sylar? --[[User:Mc hammark\|mc_hammark]] 14:12, 9 February 2010 (EST)
	*Maybe they just want to highlight the fact that a major character actually died. For good.--[[User:PJDEP\|PJDEP]] - [[User Talk:PJDEP\|Need further explanation?]] 15:15, 9 February 2010 (EST)		*Maybe they just want to highlight the fact that a major character actually died. For good.--[[User:PJDEP\|PJDEP]] - [[User Talk:PJDEP\|Need further explanation?]] 15:15, 9 February 2010 (EST)

			why could nathan still fly when he was in sylars body, was this just telekinesis and if not couldn't matt give everybody any power he wants?[[User:Angel0941\|Angel0941]] 11:11, 21 February 2010 (EST)