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imported>Altes: it's illusion

2009-12-25T11:27:19Z

it's illusion

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imported>Altes: it's illusion

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it's illusion

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	{{power names\|5\|eos="Outfit morphing" describes what [[Crazy Tom]] can do}}
	== Sure sounds like melting to me... ==		== Sure sounds like melting to me... ==
	From the information given on this page, (and me not being a religious iStory follower) I believe that it is actually ''more'' speculative to say this new power is a separate ability than to say it's [[melting]], an ability which we already know. The man is described to do ''exactly'' what [[Zane]] and [[Sylar]] were able to do, he is seen melting objects. {{User:Psilaq Remake/sig}} 11:38, 12 April 2009 (EDT)		From the information given on this page, (and me not being a religious iStory follower) I believe that it is actually ''more'' speculative to say this new power is a separate ability than to say it's [[melting]], an ability which we already know. The man is described to do ''exactly'' what [[Zane]] and [[Sylar]] were able to do, he is seen melting objects. {{User:Psilaq Remake/sig}} 11:38, 12 April 2009 (EDT)

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2009-05-26T20:40:18Z

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	************ Why did they limit the circus content again? Not to mix Rebel/Ellen in the same story line? [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 15:29, 26 May 2009 (EDT)		************ Why did they limit the circus content again? Not to mix Rebel/Ellen in the same story line? [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 15:29, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
	************* A merge with '''[[Illusion]]''' is perfect. (Physical contact should be noted for Tom, though.) -- <span style="background-color:Black; font-family:Bradley Hand ITC; border: 1px solid #CCCCCC;padding: 2px; -moz-border-radius:5px;"><small><font color=red></font> '''<font color=CCCCCC>Psilaq R.</font>'''-<font color=green></font> '''[[User:Psilaq Remake\|<font color=FF3333>U</font>]]''' <font color="red"></font></small> <small>-[[User talk:Psilaq Remake\|<font color="FFFF33">'''T'''</font>]]</small>- <font color="FF3333"></font></small> <small>[[Special:Contributions/Psilaq Remake\|<font color="33C300">'''C'''</font>]]</small></font></small>-</span> 16:08, 26 May 2009 (EDT)		************* A merge with '''[[Illusion]]''' is perfect. (Physical contact should be noted for Tom, though.) -- <span style="background-color:Black; font-family:Bradley Hand ITC; border: 1px solid #CCCCCC;padding: 2px; -moz-border-radius:5px;"><small><font color=red></font> '''<font color=CCCCCC>Psilaq R.</font>'''-<font color=green></font> '''[[User:Psilaq Remake\|<font color=FF3333>U</font>]]''' <font color="red"></font></small> <small>-[[User talk:Psilaq Remake\|<font color="FFFF33">'''T'''</font>]]</small>- <font color="FF3333"></font></small> <small>[[Special:Contributions/Psilaq Remake\|<font color="33C300">'''C'''</font>]]</small></font></small>-</span> 16:08, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
			************* Right, so that they could focus more on Rebel's "other team".--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 16:40, 26 May 2009 (EDT)

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	*********** Irony, neither Candice or Tom ever actually change anything; they just project illusions. And the amount of time they can use their ability for doesn't really matter in terms of defining what it is they do. Intuitive Empath, Tom explained in the followup interview that it was presented clearer in an earlier draft that they had much more circus content.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 23:52, 25 May 2009 (EDT)		*********** Irony, neither Candice or Tom ever actually change anything; they just project illusions. And the amount of time they can use their ability for doesn't really matter in terms of defining what it is they do. Intuitive Empath, Tom explained in the followup interview that it was presented clearer in an earlier draft that they had much more circus content.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 23:52, 25 May 2009 (EDT)
	************ Why did they limit the circus content again? Not to mix Rebel/Ellen in the same story line? [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 15:29, 26 May 2009 (EDT)		************ Why did they limit the circus content again? Not to mix Rebel/Ellen in the same story line? [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 15:29, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
			************* A merge with '''[[Illusion]]''' is perfect. (Physical contact should be noted for Tom, though.) -- <span style="background-color:Black; font-family:Bradley Hand ITC; border: 1px solid #CCCCCC;padding: 2px; -moz-border-radius:5px;"><small><font color=red></font> '''<font color=CCCCCC>Psilaq R.</font>'''-<font color=green></font> '''[[User:Psilaq Remake\|<font color=FF3333>U</font>]]''' <font color="red"></font></small> <small>-[[User talk:Psilaq Remake\|<font color="FFFF33">'''T'''</font>]]</small>- <font color="FF3333"></font></small> <small>[[Special:Contributions/Psilaq Remake\|<font color="33C300">'''C'''</font>]]</small></font></small>-</span> 16:08, 26 May 2009 (EDT)

imported>Intuitive Empath: /* From New Interview */

2009-05-26T19:29:52Z

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	********** My point is that they could have made it clearer in the iStory, or given the ability name earlier. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 20:35, 25 May 2009 (EDT)		********** My point is that they could have made it clearer in the iStory, or given the ability name earlier. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 20:35, 25 May 2009 (EDT)
	*********** Irony, neither Candice or Tom ever actually change anything; they just project illusions. And the amount of time they can use their ability for doesn't really matter in terms of defining what it is they do. Intuitive Empath, Tom explained in the followup interview that it was presented clearer in an earlier draft that they had much more circus content.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 23:52, 25 May 2009 (EDT)		*********** Irony, neither Candice or Tom ever actually change anything; they just project illusions. And the amount of time they can use their ability for doesn't really matter in terms of defining what it is they do. Intuitive Empath, Tom explained in the followup interview that it was presented clearer in an earlier draft that they had much more circus content.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 23:52, 25 May 2009 (EDT)
			************ Why did they limit the circus content again? Not to mix Rebel/Ellen in the same story line? [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 15:29, 26 May 2009 (EDT)

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2009-05-26T03:52:31Z

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	<i>Crazy Tom can create short-term illusions over whatever he is touching.</i> - Is this close enough to [[illusion]] to be put there, or is it as different as [[mental manipulation]] and [[neurocognitive deficit]] and therefore deserving to keep its own page? (By 'different as MM and ND' I mean almost the same, but illusion has a wider range/MM can select specific memories [I don't mean to stir up that debate again]) --{{User:Yamawhata?/signature}} 19:20, 23 May 2009 (EDT)		<i>Crazy Tom can create short-term illusions over whatever he is touching.</i> - Is this close enough to [[illusion]] to be put there, or is it as different as [[mental manipulation]] and [[neurocognitive deficit]] and therefore deserving to keep its own page? (By 'different as MM and ND' I mean almost the same, but illusion has a wider range/MM can select specific memories [I don't mean to stir up that debate again]) --{{User:Yamawhata?/signature}} 19:20, 23 May 2009 (EDT)

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	********* That would be [[shockwave emission]] (which was later changed to [[seismic burst]]). Another great example of a descriptive name that is chosen by consensus, and then later replaced by a different name when we're given more information in a secondary source. To me, it's a great reminder that the writers and producers run this show, not the fans. Yes, I know Heroes Wiki has had some influence on the show (see [[Mohinder's office#Research Notes\|Mohinder's research notes]] or [[Nathan's files]]), and that kind of retroactive canonization never sits well with me. I mean, once it's in the show, it's canon...but it seems kind of backwards to me that our site would determine canon. It should be the other way around. But it is what it is...however, we should always remember that when a writer clarifies something, that always takes precedence over anything we decide as a group. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:26, 25 May 2009 (EDT)		********* That would be [[shockwave emission]] (which was later changed to [[seismic burst]]). Another great example of a descriptive name that is chosen by consensus, and then later replaced by a different name when we're given more information in a secondary source. To me, it's a great reminder that the writers and producers run this show, not the fans. Yes, I know Heroes Wiki has had some influence on the show (see [[Mohinder's office#Research Notes\|Mohinder's research notes]] or [[Nathan's files]]), and that kind of retroactive canonization never sits well with me. I mean, once it's in the show, it's canon...but it seems kind of backwards to me that our site would determine canon. It should be the other way around. But it is what it is...however, we should always remember that when a writer clarifies something, that always takes precedence over anything we decide as a group. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:26, 25 May 2009 (EDT)
	********** My point is that they could have made it clearer in the iStory, or given the ability name earlier. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 20:35, 25 May 2009 (EDT)		********** My point is that they could have made it clearer in the iStory, or given the ability name earlier. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 20:35, 25 May 2009 (EDT)
			*********** Irony, neither Candice or Tom ever actually change anything; they just project illusions. And the amount of time they can use their ability for doesn't really matter in terms of defining what it is they do. Intuitive Empath, Tom explained in the followup interview that it was presented clearer in an earlier draft that they had much more circus content.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 23:52, 25 May 2009 (EDT)

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2009-05-26T00:35:11Z

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	******** Not that, just that the effort everyone put in the consensus of this ability, this was the first ability named with the new consensus system right? [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 19:00, 25 May 2009 (EDT)		******** Not that, just that the effort everyone put in the consensus of this ability, this was the first ability named with the new consensus system right? [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 19:00, 25 May 2009 (EDT)
	********* That would be [[shockwave emission]] (which was later changed to [[seismic burst]]). Another great example of a descriptive name that is chosen by consensus, and then later replaced by a different name when we're given more information in a secondary source. To me, it's a great reminder that the writers and producers run this show, not the fans. Yes, I know Heroes Wiki has had some influence on the show (see [[Mohinder's office#Research Notes\|Mohinder's research notes]] or [[Nathan's files]]), and that kind of retroactive canonization never sits well with me. I mean, once it's in the show, it's canon...but it seems kind of backwards to me that our site would determine canon. It should be the other way around. But it is what it is...however, we should always remember that when a writer clarifies something, that always takes precedence over anything we decide as a group. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:26, 25 May 2009 (EDT)		********* That would be [[shockwave emission]] (which was later changed to [[seismic burst]]). Another great example of a descriptive name that is chosen by consensus, and then later replaced by a different name when we're given more information in a secondary source. To me, it's a great reminder that the writers and producers run this show, not the fans. Yes, I know Heroes Wiki has had some influence on the show (see [[Mohinder's office#Research Notes\|Mohinder's research notes]] or [[Nathan's files]]), and that kind of retroactive canonization never sits well with me. I mean, once it's in the show, it's canon...but it seems kind of backwards to me that our site would determine canon. It should be the other way around. But it is what it is...however, we should always remember that when a writer clarifies something, that always takes precedence over anything we decide as a group. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:26, 25 May 2009 (EDT)
			********** My point is that they could have made it clearer in the iStory, or given the ability name earlier. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 20:35, 25 May 2009 (EDT)

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	******* You're upset that we were given new information that clarifies the ability? -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 15:52, 25 May 2009 (EDT)		******* You're upset that we were given new information that clarifies the ability? -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 15:52, 25 May 2009 (EDT)
	******** Not that, just that the effort everyone put in the consensus of this ability, this was the first ability named with the new consensus system right? [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 19:00, 25 May 2009 (EDT)		******** Not that, just that the effort everyone put in the consensus of this ability, this was the first ability named with the new consensus system right? [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 19:00, 25 May 2009 (EDT)
			********* That would be [[shockwave emission]] (which was later changed to [[seismic burst]]). Another great example of a descriptive name that is chosen by consensus, and then later replaced by a different name when we're given more information in a secondary source. To me, it's a great reminder that the writers and producers run this show, not the fans. Yes, I know Heroes Wiki has had some influence on the show (see [[Mohinder's office#Research Notes\|Mohinder's research notes]] or [[Nathan's files]]), and that kind of retroactive canonization never sits well with me. I mean, once it's in the show, it's canon...but it seems kind of backwards to me that our site would determine canon. It should be the other way around. But it is what it is...however, we should always remember that when a writer clarifies something, that always takes precedence over anything we decide as a group. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:26, 25 May 2009 (EDT)

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	****** Let's not worry about names until we have to. You know, I'm kinda down that they threw in info that made the entire consesus check we did down the drain. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 14:55, 24 May 2009 (EDT)		****** Let's not worry about names until we have to. You know, I'm kinda down that they threw in info that made the entire consesus check we did down the drain. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 14:55, 24 May 2009 (EDT)
	******* You're upset that we were given new information that clarifies the ability? -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 15:52, 25 May 2009 (EDT)		******* You're upset that we were given new information that clarifies the ability? -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 15:52, 25 May 2009 (EDT)
			******** Not that, just that the effort everyone put in the consensus of this ability, this was the first ability named with the new consensus system right? [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 19:00, 25 May 2009 (EDT)

imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* From New Interview */

2009-05-25T19:52:19Z

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	***** I see no problem with merging. Thought it will need to be noted he has to touch an object to cast an illusion on it. I also think if we don't merge then possibly object illusion could be a possible name. --{{User:Laughingdevilboy/signature}} 14:35, 24 May 2009 (EDT)		***** I see no problem with merging. Thought it will need to be noted he has to touch an object to cast an illusion on it. I also think if we don't merge then possibly object illusion could be a possible name. --{{User:Laughingdevilboy/signature}} 14:35, 24 May 2009 (EDT)
	****** Let's not worry about names until we have to. You know, I'm kinda down that they threw in info that made the entire consesus check we did down the drain. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 14:55, 24 May 2009 (EDT)		****** Let's not worry about names until we have to. You know, I'm kinda down that they threw in info that made the entire consesus check we did down the drain. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 14:55, 24 May 2009 (EDT)
			******* You're upset that we were given new information that clarifies the ability? -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 15:52, 25 May 2009 (EDT)

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	************ Why did they limit the circus content again? Not to mix Rebel/Ellen in the same story line? [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 15:29, 26 May 2009 (EDT)		************ Why did they limit the circus content again? Not to mix Rebel/Ellen in the same story line? [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 15:29, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
	************* A merge with '''[[Illusion]]''' is perfect. (Physical contact should be noted for Tom, though.) -- <span style="background-color:Black; font-family:Bradley Hand ITC; border: 1px solid #CCCCCC;padding: 2px; -moz-border-radius:5px;"><small><font color=red></font> '''<font color=CCCCCC>Psilaq R.</font>'''-<font color=green></font> '''[[User:Psilaq Remake\|<font color=FF3333>U</font>]]''' <font color="red"></font></small> <small>-[[User talk:Psilaq Remake\|<font color="FFFF33">'''T'''</font>]]</small>- <font color="FF3333"></font></small> <small>[[Special:Contributions/Psilaq Remake\|<font color="33C300">'''C'''</font>]]</small></font></small>-</span> 16:08, 26 May 2009 (EDT)		************* A merge with '''[[Illusion]]''' is perfect. (Physical contact should be noted for Tom, though.) -- <span style="background-color:Black; font-family:Bradley Hand ITC; border: 1px solid #CCCCCC;padding: 2px; -moz-border-radius:5px;"><small><font color=red></font> '''<font color=CCCCCC>Psilaq R.</font>'''-<font color=green></font> '''[[User:Psilaq Remake\|<font color=FF3333>U</font>]]''' <font color="red"></font></small> <small>-[[User talk:Psilaq Remake\|<font color="FFFF33">'''T'''</font>]]</small>- <font color="FF3333"></font></small> <small>[[Special:Contributions/Psilaq Remake\|<font color="33C300">'''C'''</font>]]</small></font></small>-</span> 16:08, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
			************* Right, so that they could focus more on Rebel's "other team".--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 16:40, 26 May 2009 (EDT)

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	*********** Irony, neither Candice or Tom ever actually change anything; they just project illusions. And the amount of time they can use their ability for doesn't really matter in terms of defining what it is they do. Intuitive Empath, Tom explained in the followup interview that it was presented clearer in an earlier draft that they had much more circus content.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 23:52, 25 May 2009 (EDT)		*********** Irony, neither Candice or Tom ever actually change anything; they just project illusions. And the amount of time they can use their ability for doesn't really matter in terms of defining what it is they do. Intuitive Empath, Tom explained in the followup interview that it was presented clearer in an earlier draft that they had much more circus content.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 23:52, 25 May 2009 (EDT)
	************ Why did they limit the circus content again? Not to mix Rebel/Ellen in the same story line? [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 15:29, 26 May 2009 (EDT)		************ Why did they limit the circus content again? Not to mix Rebel/Ellen in the same story line? [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 15:29, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
			************* A merge with '''[[Illusion]]''' is perfect. (Physical contact should be noted for Tom, though.) -- <span style="background-color:Black; font-family:Bradley Hand ITC; border: 1px solid #CCCCCC;padding: 2px; -moz-border-radius:5px;"><small><font color=red></font> '''<font color=CCCCCC>Psilaq R.</font>'''-<font color=green></font> '''[[User:Psilaq Remake\|<font color=FF3333>U</font>]]''' <font color="red"></font></small> <small>-[[User talk:Psilaq Remake\|<font color="FFFF33">'''T'''</font>]]</small>- <font color="FF3333"></font></small> <small>[[Special:Contributions/Psilaq Remake\|<font color="33C300">'''C'''</font>]]</small></font></small>-</span> 16:08, 26 May 2009 (EDT)

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	********** My point is that they could have made it clearer in the iStory, or given the ability name earlier. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 20:35, 25 May 2009 (EDT)		********** My point is that they could have made it clearer in the iStory, or given the ability name earlier. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 20:35, 25 May 2009 (EDT)
	*********** Irony, neither Candice or Tom ever actually change anything; they just project illusions. And the amount of time they can use their ability for doesn't really matter in terms of defining what it is they do. Intuitive Empath, Tom explained in the followup interview that it was presented clearer in an earlier draft that they had much more circus content.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 23:52, 25 May 2009 (EDT)		*********** Irony, neither Candice or Tom ever actually change anything; they just project illusions. And the amount of time they can use their ability for doesn't really matter in terms of defining what it is they do. Intuitive Empath, Tom explained in the followup interview that it was presented clearer in an earlier draft that they had much more circus content.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 23:52, 25 May 2009 (EDT)
			************ Why did they limit the circus content again? Not to mix Rebel/Ellen in the same story line? [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 15:29, 26 May 2009 (EDT)

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	******** Not that, just that the effort everyone put in the consensus of this ability, this was the first ability named with the new consensus system right? [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 19:00, 25 May 2009 (EDT)		******** Not that, just that the effort everyone put in the consensus of this ability, this was the first ability named with the new consensus system right? [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 19:00, 25 May 2009 (EDT)
	********* That would be [[shockwave emission]] (which was later changed to [[seismic burst]]). Another great example of a descriptive name that is chosen by consensus, and then later replaced by a different name when we're given more information in a secondary source. To me, it's a great reminder that the writers and producers run this show, not the fans. Yes, I know Heroes Wiki has had some influence on the show (see [[Mohinder's office#Research Notes\|Mohinder's research notes]] or [[Nathan's files]]), and that kind of retroactive canonization never sits well with me. I mean, once it's in the show, it's canon...but it seems kind of backwards to me that our site would determine canon. It should be the other way around. But it is what it is...however, we should always remember that when a writer clarifies something, that always takes precedence over anything we decide as a group. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:26, 25 May 2009 (EDT)		********* That would be [[shockwave emission]] (which was later changed to [[seismic burst]]). Another great example of a descriptive name that is chosen by consensus, and then later replaced by a different name when we're given more information in a secondary source. To me, it's a great reminder that the writers and producers run this show, not the fans. Yes, I know Heroes Wiki has had some influence on the show (see [[Mohinder's office#Research Notes\|Mohinder's research notes]] or [[Nathan's files]]), and that kind of retroactive canonization never sits well with me. I mean, once it's in the show, it's canon...but it seems kind of backwards to me that our site would determine canon. It should be the other way around. But it is what it is...however, we should always remember that when a writer clarifies something, that always takes precedence over anything we decide as a group. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:26, 25 May 2009 (EDT)
			********** My point is that they could have made it clearer in the iStory, or given the ability name earlier. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 20:35, 25 May 2009 (EDT)