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	****The lead sentence states "death or injuries". --[[User:Radicell\|Radicell]] 23:52, 14 June 2009 (EDT)		****The lead sentence states "death or injuries". --[[User:Radicell\|Radicell]] 23:52, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
	***** Good point. Though since Matt wound up unconscious, face down on the ground, we might be able to say he had a head injury. Thoughts?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 04:37, 15 June 2009 (EDT)		***** Good point. Though since Matt wound up unconscious, face down on the ground, we might be able to say he had a head injury. Thoughts?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 04:37, 15 June 2009 (EDT)
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imported>Altes at 05:25, 3 September 2009

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	::: In a court of law, Peter would most likely be charged with attempted murder, and Sylar with murder. Sylar is ultimately responsible for Arthur's death, but Arthur is a victim of both men. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 16:19, 5 March 2009 (EST)		::: In a court of law, Peter would most likely be charged with attempted murder, and Sylar with murder. Sylar is ultimately responsible for Arthur's death, but Arthur is a victim of both men. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 16:19, 5 March 2009 (EST)
	:::: Either way, Peter had the intent to shoot Arthur, even if Sylar wasn't there Arthur would have died, I think he should be included. I pulled the trigger, Sylar slowed it down. --{{User:Irony/Signature}} 16:27, 5 March 2009 (EST)		:::: Either way, Peter had the intent to shoot Arthur, even if Sylar wasn't there Arthur would have died, I think he should be included. I pulled the trigger, Sylar slowed it down. --{{User:Irony/Signature}} 16:27, 5 March 2009 (EST)
			* Peter did not kill Arthur, Sylar did. Arthur was proud Peter had the nerve to shoot him, but Sylar intervened, so he's the one who killed Arthur. {{User:Altes/Signature}}

	==Caitlin==		==Caitlin==
	How is [[Caitlin]] not one of [[Peter]]'s kills. She doesn't exist anymore because of him. --<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-weight:bold;"></span>'''[[User:Elemental Manipulator\|Elemental Manipulator]]'''</span> [ [[User:Elemental Manipulator\|U]] \| [[User_talk:Elemental Manipulator\|T]] \| [[Special:Contributions/Elemental Manipulator\|C]] ]'''</small> - <span style="color:green;">When in doubt, ask BTE </span> 00:08, 24 April 2009 (EDT)		How is [[Caitlin]] not one of [[Peter]]'s kills. She doesn't exist anymore because of him. --<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-weight:bold;"></span>'''[[User:Elemental Manipulator\|Elemental Manipulator]]'''</span> [ [[User:Elemental Manipulator\|U]] \| [[User_talk:Elemental Manipulator\|T]] \| [[Special:Contributions/Elemental Manipulator\|C]] ]'''</small> - <span style="color:green;">When in doubt, ask BTE </span> 00:08, 24 April 2009 (EDT)
			* Caitlin's fate is unknown. She may still exist. Besides, it's not Peter's fault he couldn't control Hiro's ability, it's quite a difficult one to master. {{User:Altes/Signature}}

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	****The lead sentence states "death or injuries". --[[User:Radicell\|Radicell]] 23:52, 14 June 2009 (EDT)		****The lead sentence states "death or injuries". --[[User:Radicell\|Radicell]] 23:52, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
	***** Good point. Though since Matt wound up unconscious, face down on the ground, we might be able to say he had a head injury. Thoughts?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 04:37, 15 June 2009 (EDT)		***** Good point. Though since Matt wound up unconscious, face down on the ground, we might be able to say he had a head injury. Thoughts?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 04:37, 15 June 2009 (EDT)
			****** ''"Future you doesn't count as you!"'' {{User:Altes/Signature}}

imported>MiamiVolts: /* Matt's teleportation to Africa */

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	***I would actually say it belongs there. Though Peter didn't, or even didn't want to, Peter forced him there so he could get away. Now i can't remember what episode it was, but when Peter and Claire got to Primatech, Matt pushed Peter against the wall thinking it was future Peter. This shows that Matt lost trust in anyone that resembled Peter, and that he hated that he was sent there.--{{User:Catalyst/sig5}} 21:26, 14 June 2009 (EDT)		***I would actually say it belongs there. Though Peter didn't, or even didn't want to, Peter forced him there so he could get away. Now i can't remember what episode it was, but when Peter and Claire got to Primatech, Matt pushed Peter against the wall thinking it was future Peter. This shows that Matt lost trust in anyone that resembled Peter, and that he hated that he was sent there.--{{User:Catalyst/sig5}} 21:26, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
	****The lead sentence states "death or injuries". --[[User:Radicell\|Radicell]] 23:52, 14 June 2009 (EDT)		****The lead sentence states "death or injuries". --[[User:Radicell\|Radicell]] 23:52, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
			***** Good point. Though since Matt wound up unconscious, face down on the ground, we might be able to say he had a head injury. Thoughts?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 04:37, 15 June 2009 (EDT)

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	**I agree with you. I guess the definition would be that the person affects the victim in some undesirable way. If someone steals from you, you are not physically harmed but still victimized. But in this case, I think Matt was helped more than he was hurt.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 21:20, 14 June 2009 (EDT)		**I agree with you. I guess the definition would be that the person affects the victim in some undesirable way. If someone steals from you, you are not physically harmed but still victimized. But in this case, I think Matt was helped more than he was hurt.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 21:20, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
	***I would actually say it belongs there. Though Peter didn't, or even didn't want to, Peter forced him there so he could get away. Now i can't remember what episode it was, but when Peter and Claire got to Primatech, Matt pushed Peter against the wall thinking it was future Peter. This shows that Matt lost trust in anyone that resembled Peter, and that he hated that he was sent there.--{{User:Catalyst/sig5}} 21:26, 14 June 2009 (EDT)		***I would actually say it belongs there. Though Peter didn't, or even didn't want to, Peter forced him there so he could get away. Now i can't remember what episode it was, but when Peter and Claire got to Primatech, Matt pushed Peter against the wall thinking it was future Peter. This shows that Matt lost trust in anyone that resembled Peter, and that he hated that he was sent there.--{{User:Catalyst/sig5}} 21:26, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
			****The lead sentence states "death or injuries". --[[User:Radicell\|Radicell]] 23:52, 14 June 2009 (EDT)

imported>Catalyst: /* Matt's teleportation to Africa */

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	*We need to define what makes a character some other character's victim. Matt didn't seem to suffer anything directly from Peter. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 20:46, 14 June 2009 (EDT)		*We need to define what makes a character some other character's victim. Matt didn't seem to suffer anything directly from Peter. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 20:46, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
	**I agree with you. I guess the definition would be that the person affects the victim in some undesirable way. If someone steals from you, you are not physically harmed but still victimized. But in this case, I think Matt was helped more than he was hurt.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 21:20, 14 June 2009 (EDT)		**I agree with you. I guess the definition would be that the person affects the victim in some undesirable way. If someone steals from you, you are not physically harmed but still victimized. But in this case, I think Matt was helped more than he was hurt.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 21:20, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
			***I would actually say it belongs there. Though Peter didn't, or even didn't want to, Peter forced him there so he could get away. Now i can't remember what episode it was, but when Peter and Claire got to Primatech, Matt pushed Peter against the wall thinking it was future Peter. This shows that Matt lost trust in anyone that resembled Peter, and that he hated that he was sent there.--{{User:Catalyst/sig5}} 21:26, 14 June 2009 (EDT)

imported>MiamiVolts: /* Matt's teleportation to Africa */ reply

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	DalekCaan13 added this to the page, and it was removed. Matt was teleported against his will by Future Peter, but I agree that Matt's teleportation probably doesn't constitute victimization, since it actually helped Matt by setting him on a different path.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 19:53, 14 June 2009 (EDT)		DalekCaan13 added this to the page, and it was removed. Matt was teleported against his will by Future Peter, but I agree that Matt's teleportation probably doesn't constitute victimization, since it actually helped Matt by setting him on a different path.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 19:53, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
	*We need to define what makes a character some other character's victim. Matt didn't seem to suffer anything directly from Peter. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 20:46, 14 June 2009 (EDT)		*We need to define what makes a character some other character's victim. Matt didn't seem to suffer anything directly from Peter. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 20:46, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
			**I agree with you. I guess the definition would be that the person affects the victim in some undesirable way. If someone steals from you, you are not physically harmed but still victimized. But in this case, I think Matt was helped more than he was hurt.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 21:20, 14 June 2009 (EDT)

imported>Intuitive Empath: /* Matt's teleportation to Africa */

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	DalekCaan13 added this to the page, and it was removed. Matt was teleported against his will by Future Peter, but I agree that Matt's teleportation probably doesn't constitute victimization, since it actually helped Matt by setting him on a different path.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 19:53, 14 June 2009 (EDT)		DalekCaan13 added this to the page, and it was removed. Matt was teleported against his will by Future Peter, but I agree that Matt's teleportation probably doesn't constitute victimization, since it actually helped Matt by setting him on a different path.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 19:53, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
			*We need to define what makes a character some other character's victim. Matt didn't seem to suffer anything directly from Peter. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 20:46, 14 June 2009 (EDT)

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	==Matt's teleportation to Africa==		==Matt's teleportation to Africa==
	~~Not~~ ~~sure~~ if Matt's teleportation ~~constitutes~~ victimization, since it actually helped Matt by setting him on a different path.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 19:53, 14 June 2009 (EDT)		DalekCaan13 added this to the page, and it was removed. Matt was teleported against his will by Future Peter, but I agree that Matt's teleportation probably doesn't constitute victimization, since it actually helped Matt by setting him on a different path.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 19:53, 14 June 2009 (EDT)

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	==Caitlin==		==Caitlin==
	How is [[Caitlin]] not one of [[Peter]]'s kills. She doesn't exist anymore because of him. --<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-weight:bold;"></span>'''[[User:Elemental Manipulator\|Elemental Manipulator]]'''</span> [ [[User:Elemental Manipulator\|U]] \| [[User_talk:Elemental Manipulator\|T]] \| [[Special:Contributions/Elemental Manipulator\|C]] ]'''</small> - <span style="color:green;">When in doubt, ask BTE </span> 00:08, 24 April 2009 (EDT)		How is [[Caitlin]] not one of [[Peter]]'s kills. She doesn't exist anymore because of him. --<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-weight:bold;"></span>'''[[User:Elemental Manipulator\|Elemental Manipulator]]'''</span> [ [[User:Elemental Manipulator\|U]] \| [[User_talk:Elemental Manipulator\|T]] \| [[Special:Contributions/Elemental Manipulator\|C]] ]'''</small> - <span style="color:green;">When in doubt, ask BTE </span> 00:08, 24 April 2009 (EDT)

			==Matt's teleportation to Africa==
			Not sure if Matt's teleportation constitutes victimization, since it actually helped Matt by setting him on a different path.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 19:53, 14 June 2009 (EDT)

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	DalekCaan13 added this to the page, and it was removed. Matt was teleported against his will by Future Peter, but I agree that Matt's teleportation probably doesn't constitute victimization, since it actually helped Matt by setting him on a different path.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 19:53, 14 June 2009 (EDT)		DalekCaan13 added this to the page, and it was removed. Matt was teleported against his will by Future Peter, but I agree that Matt's teleportation probably doesn't constitute victimization, since it actually helped Matt by setting him on a different path.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 19:53, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
	*We need to define what makes a character some other character's victim. Matt didn't seem to suffer anything directly from Peter. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 20:46, 14 June 2009 (EDT)		*We need to define what makes a character some other character's victim. Matt didn't seem to suffer anything directly from Peter. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 20:46, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
			**I agree with you. I guess the definition would be that the person affects the victim in some undesirable way. If someone steals from you, you are not physically harmed but still victimized. But in this case, I think Matt was helped more than he was hurt.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 21:20, 14 June 2009 (EDT)