Talk:Pneumatic syringe - Revision history

imported>Ryangibsonstewart: Talk:AWI's needle moved to Talk:Pneumatic syringe: canonical name referenced in diagram

2007-02-21T03:28:52Z

Talk:AWI's needle moved to Talk:Pneumatic syringe: canonical name referenced in diagram

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imported>Ryangibsonstewart: Talk:AWI's needle moved to Talk:Pneumatic syringe: canonical name referenced in diagram

2007-02-21T03:28:52Z

Talk:AWI's needle moved to Talk:Pneumatic syringe: canonical name referenced in diagram

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imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* Name Change */

2007-02-21T00:25:51Z

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	Ted calls it a "hypo gun" (HDYSAEM,P2). Shall we change the name? - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|talk]]) 20:22, 30 January 2007 (EST)		Ted calls it a "hypo gun" (HDYSAEM,P2). Shall we change the name? - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|talk]]) 20:22, 30 January 2007 (EST)
	* Given the detailed technical diagram calls it a "pneumatic syringe" I'd recommend renaming the article to that. It's especially good since it lets us take the unofficial term "AWI" out of the title as well. :) ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] 14:08, 20 February 2007 (EST))		* Given the detailed technical diagram calls it a "pneumatic syringe" I'd recommend renaming the article to that. It's especially good since it lets us take the unofficial term "AWI" out of the title as well. :) ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] 14:08, 20 February 2007 (EST))
			**I completely agree. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 19:25, 20 February 2007 (EST)

	==Weapons==		==Weapons==

imported>Admin: /* Name Change */

2007-02-20T19:08:59Z

Name Change

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	Ted calls it a "hypo gun" (HDYSAEM,P2). Shall we change the name? - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|talk]]) 20:22, 30 January 2007 (EST)		Ted calls it a "hypo gun" (HDYSAEM,P2). Shall we change the name? - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|talk]]) 20:22, 30 January 2007 (EST)
			* Given the detailed technical diagram calls it a "pneumatic syringe" I'd recommend renaming the article to that. It's especially good since it lets us take the unofficial term "AWI" out of the title as well. :) ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] 14:08, 20 February 2007 (EST))

	==Weapons==		==Weapons==

imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* Inside the needle */ updating image

2007-02-01T06:14:36Z

Inside the needle: updating image

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	**He (and Ted) think they did something to their powers ... which they might well have, just not with the mark/needle.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 00:40, 1 February 2007 (EST)		**He (and Ted) think they did something to their powers ... which they might well have, just not with the mark/needle.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 00:40, 1 February 2007 (EST)
	**Nope, never stated that it injects a tracking substance, AFAIK. Hana and Ted believe it is used to make the mark, and the Pharmatech scientist says that it's used to tranquilize large animals and then inject them (though I don't think it ever says with what). I agree with you - I don't think Matt is correct in thinking that the mark or the Haitian somehow augmented his power with the needle. But I could be wrong. - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|talk]]) 00:41, 1 February 2007 (EST)		**Nope, never stated that it injects a tracking substance, AFAIK. Hana and Ted believe it is used to make the mark, and the Pharmatech scientist says that it's used to tranquilize large animals and then inject them (though I don't think it ever says with what). I agree with you - I don't think Matt is correct in thinking that the mark or the Haitian somehow augmented his power with the needle. But I could be wrong. - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|talk]]) 00:41, 1 February 2007 (EST)
	***I remember reading about the isotope though!! Check this image: [~~http~~:~~//heroeswiki.com/~~Image:~~Hana030~~.jpg ~~Hana~~]. It points to the area on the neck where the mark is! [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]] 00:43, 1 February 2007 (EST)		***I remember reading about the isotope though!! Check this image: [[:Image:Hana chart.jpg]]. It points to the area on the neck where the mark is! [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]] 00:43, 1 February 2007 (EST)
	***Uh ... yeah, it does. Reread the last page of the GN again. It actually doesn't say the needle tranquilizes them. It says the tranquilize them (no mention of the needle) and then uses the needle to inject the isotope.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 00:52, 1 February 2007 (EST)		***Uh ... yeah, it does. Reread the last page of the GN again. It actually doesn't say the needle tranquilizes them. It says the tranquilize them (no mention of the needle) and then uses the needle to inject the isotope.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 00:52, 1 February 2007 (EST)
	***Actually... the GN FULLY agrees with me :P [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]]		***Actually... the GN FULLY agrees with me :P [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]]

imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* Inside the needle */

2007-02-01T06:10:26Z

Inside the needle

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	*****Yeah, that's what I just said. Follow the threading ... I was replying to Ryan, not you.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:01, 1 February 2007 (EST)		*****Yeah, that's what I just said. Follow the threading ... I was replying to Ryan, not you.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:01, 1 February 2007 (EST)
	***I know you were agreeing with me :P My response was back to Ryan as well...		***I know you were agreeing with me :P My response was back to Ryan as well...
			****Whoa, whoa, okay! :) Yes, I forgot that part. Whoopy daisy. My bad. Aw shucks. :) - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|talk]]) 01:10, 1 February 2007 (EST)

imported>Anomy: /* Inside the needle */

2007-02-01T06:06:03Z

Inside the needle

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	***I remember reading about the isotope though!! Check this image: [http://heroeswiki.com/Image:Hana030.jpg Hana]. It points to the area on the neck where the mark is! [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]] 00:43, 1 February 2007 (EST)		***I remember reading about the isotope though!! Check this image: [http://heroeswiki.com/Image:Hana030.jpg Hana]. It points to the area on the neck where the mark is! [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]] 00:43, 1 February 2007 (EST)
	***Uh ... yeah, it does. Reread the last page of the GN again. It actually doesn't say the needle tranquilizes them. It says the tranquilize them (no mention of the needle) and then uses the needle to inject the isotope.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 00:52, 1 February 2007 (EST)		***Uh ... yeah, it does. Reread the last page of the GN again. It actually doesn't say the needle tranquilizes them. It says the tranquilize them (no mention of the needle) and then uses the needle to inject the isotope.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 00:52, 1 February 2007 (EST)
	****Actually... the GN FULLY agrees with me :P [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]]		***Actually... the GN FULLY agrees with me :P [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]]
	*****Yeah, that's what I just said. Follow the threading ... I was replying to Ryan, not you.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:01, 1 February 2007 (EST)		*****Yeah, that's what I just said. Follow the threading ... I was replying to Ryan, not you.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:01, 1 February 2007 (EST)
			***I know you were agreeing with me :P My response was back to Ryan as well...

imported>Hardvice at 06:01, 1 February 2007

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	***I remember reading about the isotope though!! Check this image: [http://heroeswiki.com/Image:Hana030.jpg Hana]. It points to the area on the neck where the mark is! [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]] 00:43, 1 February 2007 (EST)		***I remember reading about the isotope though!! Check this image: [http://heroeswiki.com/Image:Hana030.jpg Hana]. It points to the area on the neck where the mark is! [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]] 00:43, 1 February 2007 (EST)
	***Uh ... yeah, it does. Reread the last page of the GN again. It actually doesn't say the needle tranquilizes them. It says the tranquilize them (no mention of the needle) and then uses the needle to inject the isotope.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 00:52, 1 February 2007 (EST)		***Uh ... yeah, it does. Reread the last page of the GN again. It actually doesn't say the needle tranquilizes them. It says the tranquilize them (no mention of the needle) and then uses the needle to inject the isotope.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 00:52, 1 February 2007 (EST)
	**Actually... the GN FULLY agrees with me :P [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]]		****Actually... the GN FULLY agrees with me :P [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]]
			*****Yeah, that's what I just said. Follow the threading ... I was replying to Ryan, not you.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:01, 1 February 2007 (EST)

imported>Anomy: /* Inside the needle */

2007-02-01T05:56:17Z

Inside the needle

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	***I remember reading about the isotope though!! Check this image: [http://heroeswiki.com/Image:Hana030.jpg Hana]. It points to the area on the neck where the mark is! [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]] 00:43, 1 February 2007 (EST)		***I remember reading about the isotope though!! Check this image: [http://heroeswiki.com/Image:Hana030.jpg Hana]. It points to the area on the neck where the mark is! [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]] 00:43, 1 February 2007 (EST)
	***Uh ... yeah, it does. Reread the last page of the GN again. It actually doesn't say the needle tranquilizes them. It says the tranquilize them (no mention of the needle) and then uses the needle to inject the isotope.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 00:52, 1 February 2007 (EST)		***Uh ... yeah, it does. Reread the last page of the GN again. It actually doesn't say the needle tranquilizes them. It says the tranquilize them (no mention of the needle) and then uses the needle to inject the isotope.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 00:52, 1 February 2007 (EST)
			**Actually... the GN FULLY agrees with me :P [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]]

imported>Hardvice at 05:52, 1 February 2007

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	**He (and Ted) think they did something to their powers ... which they might well have, just not with the mark/needle.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 00:40, 1 February 2007 (EST)		**He (and Ted) think they did something to their powers ... which they might well have, just not with the mark/needle.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 00:40, 1 February 2007 (EST)
	**Nope, never stated that it injects a tracking substance, AFAIK. Hana and Ted believe it is used to make the mark, and the Pharmatech scientist says that it's used to tranquilize large animals and then inject them (though I don't think it ever says with what). I agree with you - I don't think Matt is correct in thinking that the mark or the Haitian somehow augmented his power with the needle. But I could be wrong. - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|talk]]) 00:41, 1 February 2007 (EST)		**Nope, never stated that it injects a tracking substance, AFAIK. Hana and Ted believe it is used to make the mark, and the Pharmatech scientist says that it's used to tranquilize large animals and then inject them (though I don't think it ever says with what). I agree with you - I don't think Matt is correct in thinking that the mark or the Haitian somehow augmented his power with the needle. But I could be wrong. - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|talk]]) 00:41, 1 February 2007 (EST)
	**I remember reading about the isotope though!! Check this image: [http://heroeswiki.com/Image:Hana030.jpg Hana]. It points to the area on the neck where the mark is! [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]] 00:43, 1 February 2007 (EST)		***I remember reading about the isotope though!! Check this image: [http://heroeswiki.com/Image:Hana030.jpg Hana]. It points to the area on the neck where the mark is! [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]] 00:43, 1 February 2007 (EST)
			***Uh ... yeah, it does. Reread the last page of the GN again. It actually doesn't say the needle tranquilizes them. It says the tranquilize them (no mention of the needle) and then uses the needle to inject the isotope.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 00:52, 1 February 2007 (EST)

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	**He (and Ted) think they did something to their powers ... which they might well have, just not with the mark/needle.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 00:40, 1 February 2007 (EST)		**He (and Ted) think they did something to their powers ... which they might well have, just not with the mark/needle.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 00:40, 1 February 2007 (EST)
	**Nope, never stated that it injects a tracking substance, AFAIK. Hana and Ted believe it is used to make the mark, and the Pharmatech scientist says that it's used to tranquilize large animals and then inject them (though I don't think it ever says with what). I agree with you - I don't think Matt is correct in thinking that the mark or the Haitian somehow augmented his power with the needle. But I could be wrong. - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|talk]]) 00:41, 1 February 2007 (EST)		**Nope, never stated that it injects a tracking substance, AFAIK. Hana and Ted believe it is used to make the mark, and the Pharmatech scientist says that it's used to tranquilize large animals and then inject them (though I don't think it ever says with what). I agree with you - I don't think Matt is correct in thinking that the mark or the Haitian somehow augmented his power with the needle. But I could be wrong. - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|talk]]) 00:41, 1 February 2007 (EST)
	***I remember reading about the isotope though!! Check this image: [~~http~~:~~//heroeswiki.com/~~Image:~~Hana030~~.jpg ~~Hana~~]. It points to the area on the neck where the mark is! [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]] 00:43, 1 February 2007 (EST)		***I remember reading about the isotope though!! Check this image: [[:Image:Hana chart.jpg]]. It points to the area on the neck where the mark is! [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]] 00:43, 1 February 2007 (EST)
	***Uh ... yeah, it does. Reread the last page of the GN again. It actually doesn't say the needle tranquilizes them. It says the tranquilize them (no mention of the needle) and then uses the needle to inject the isotope.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 00:52, 1 February 2007 (EST)		***Uh ... yeah, it does. Reread the last page of the GN again. It actually doesn't say the needle tranquilizes them. It says the tranquilize them (no mention of the needle) and then uses the needle to inject the isotope.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 00:52, 1 February 2007 (EST)
	***Actually... the GN FULLY agrees with me :P [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]]		***Actually... the GN FULLY agrees with me :P [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]]

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	***I remember reading about the isotope though!! Check this image: [http://heroeswiki.com/Image:Hana030.jpg Hana]. It points to the area on the neck where the mark is! [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]] 00:43, 1 February 2007 (EST)		***I remember reading about the isotope though!! Check this image: [http://heroeswiki.com/Image:Hana030.jpg Hana]. It points to the area on the neck where the mark is! [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]] 00:43, 1 February 2007 (EST)
	***Uh ... yeah, it does. Reread the last page of the GN again. It actually doesn't say the needle tranquilizes them. It says the tranquilize them (no mention of the needle) and then uses the needle to inject the isotope.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 00:52, 1 February 2007 (EST)		***Uh ... yeah, it does. Reread the last page of the GN again. It actually doesn't say the needle tranquilizes them. It says the tranquilize them (no mention of the needle) and then uses the needle to inject the isotope.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 00:52, 1 February 2007 (EST)
	****Actually... the GN FULLY agrees with me :P [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]]		***Actually... the GN FULLY agrees with me :P [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]]
	*****Yeah, that's what I just said. Follow the threading ... I was replying to Ryan, not you.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:01, 1 February 2007 (EST)		*****Yeah, that's what I just said. Follow the threading ... I was replying to Ryan, not you.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:01, 1 February 2007 (EST)
			***I know you were agreeing with me :P My response was back to Ryan as well...

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	***I remember reading about the isotope though!! Check this image: [http://heroeswiki.com/Image:Hana030.jpg Hana]. It points to the area on the neck where the mark is! [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]] 00:43, 1 February 2007 (EST)		***I remember reading about the isotope though!! Check this image: [http://heroeswiki.com/Image:Hana030.jpg Hana]. It points to the area on the neck where the mark is! [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]] 00:43, 1 February 2007 (EST)
	***Uh ... yeah, it does. Reread the last page of the GN again. It actually doesn't say the needle tranquilizes them. It says the tranquilize them (no mention of the needle) and then uses the needle to inject the isotope.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 00:52, 1 February 2007 (EST)		***Uh ... yeah, it does. Reread the last page of the GN again. It actually doesn't say the needle tranquilizes them. It says the tranquilize them (no mention of the needle) and then uses the needle to inject the isotope.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 00:52, 1 February 2007 (EST)
	**Actually... the GN FULLY agrees with me :P [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]]		****Actually... the GN FULLY agrees with me :P [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]]
			*****Yeah, that's what I just said. Follow the threading ... I was replying to Ryan, not you.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:01, 1 February 2007 (EST)

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	***I remember reading about the isotope though!! Check this image: [http://heroeswiki.com/Image:Hana030.jpg Hana]. It points to the area on the neck where the mark is! [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]] 00:43, 1 February 2007 (EST)		***I remember reading about the isotope though!! Check this image: [http://heroeswiki.com/Image:Hana030.jpg Hana]. It points to the area on the neck where the mark is! [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]] 00:43, 1 February 2007 (EST)
	***Uh ... yeah, it does. Reread the last page of the GN again. It actually doesn't say the needle tranquilizes them. It says the tranquilize them (no mention of the needle) and then uses the needle to inject the isotope.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 00:52, 1 February 2007 (EST)		***Uh ... yeah, it does. Reread the last page of the GN again. It actually doesn't say the needle tranquilizes them. It says the tranquilize them (no mention of the needle) and then uses the needle to inject the isotope.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 00:52, 1 February 2007 (EST)
			**Actually... the GN FULLY agrees with me :P [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]]

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	**He (and Ted) think they did something to their powers ... which they might well have, just not with the mark/needle.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 00:40, 1 February 2007 (EST)		**He (and Ted) think they did something to their powers ... which they might well have, just not with the mark/needle.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 00:40, 1 February 2007 (EST)
	**Nope, never stated that it injects a tracking substance, AFAIK. Hana and Ted believe it is used to make the mark, and the Pharmatech scientist says that it's used to tranquilize large animals and then inject them (though I don't think it ever says with what). I agree with you - I don't think Matt is correct in thinking that the mark or the Haitian somehow augmented his power with the needle. But I could be wrong. - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|talk]]) 00:41, 1 February 2007 (EST)		**Nope, never stated that it injects a tracking substance, AFAIK. Hana and Ted believe it is used to make the mark, and the Pharmatech scientist says that it's used to tranquilize large animals and then inject them (though I don't think it ever says with what). I agree with you - I don't think Matt is correct in thinking that the mark or the Haitian somehow augmented his power with the needle. But I could be wrong. - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|talk]]) 00:41, 1 February 2007 (EST)
	**I remember reading about the isotope though!! Check this image: [http://heroeswiki.com/Image:Hana030.jpg Hana]. It points to the area on the neck where the mark is! [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]] 00:43, 1 February 2007 (EST)		***I remember reading about the isotope though!! Check this image: [http://heroeswiki.com/Image:Hana030.jpg Hana]. It points to the area on the neck where the mark is! [[User:Anomy\|Anomy]] 00:43, 1 February 2007 (EST)
			***Uh ... yeah, it does. Reread the last page of the GN again. It actually doesn't say the needle tranquilizes them. It says the tranquilize them (no mention of the needle) and then uses the needle to inject the isotope.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 00:52, 1 February 2007 (EST)