Talk:Portal:Evs Dropper-Related Graphic Novel Characters - Revision history

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	I just taught that, even though I still favor ''not'' splitting this portal, I should give an example how to break it down to sub-portals. It's been quite clear that the evsdropr GNs (and the characters) could be sorted by four main Company agent partnerships; Donna & Thompson (the central partnership in [[Donna's Big Date]], [[Career Choices]] & [[Trust Issues]]), Bianca & Devin ([[Berlin]] central partnership), Sabine & Julien ([[Root and Branch]] central partnership), and Penny and Connie ([[Faces]] central partnership). Consequently, we would end up with these four sub-portals:		I just taught that, even though I still favor ''not'' splitting this portal, I should give an example how to break it down to sub-portals. It's been quite clear that the evsdropr GNs (and the characters) could be sorted by four main Company agent partnerships; Donna & Thompson (the central partnership in [[Donna's Big Date]], [[Career Choices]] & [[Trust Issues]]), Bianca & Devin ([[Berlin]] central partnership), Sabine & Julien ([[Root and Branch]] central partnership), and Penny and Connie ([[Faces]] central partnership). Consequently, we would end up with these four sub-portals:
	*'''[[Donna Dunlap]] & [[Thompson, Jr.]]''', [[Felicia]], [[Leonard Cushing]], and [[Jamie Wu]]		*'''[[Donna Dunlap]] & [[Thompson, Jr.]]''', [[Felicia]], [[Leonard Cushing]], and [[Jamie Wu]]
	*'''[[Penny Logan\|Penny]] & [[Connie Logan]]''', [[Teleporter]], [[Teleporter's girlfriend]], [[Manhattan target]], and [[Thompson's colleague]]		*'''[[Penny Logan\|Penny]] & [[Connie Logan]]''', [[Manuel Garcia\|Teleporter]], [[Teleporter's girlfriend]], [[Manhattan target]], and [[Thompson's colleague]]
	*'''[[Sabine Hazel]] & [[Julien Dumont]]''', [[Escape driver]], [[Level 5 agent]], [[Antarctica clone]], [[Australia clone]], [[Congo clone]], [[Decoy clone]], [[Escape clone]], and [[Hartsdale clone]]		*'''[[Sabine Hazel]] & [[Julien Dumont]]''', [[Escape driver]], [[Level 5 agent]], [[Antarctica clone]], [[Australia clone]], [[Congo clone]], [[Decoy clone]], [[Escape clone]], and [[Hartsdale clone]]
	*'''[[Bianca Karina]] & [[Devin Patterson]]''', [[Gael Cruz]], [[The German]], and [[The German's informant]]		*'''[[Bianca Karina]] & [[Devin Patterson]]''', [[Gael Cruz]], [[The German]], and [[The German's informant]]

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	** I think you meant to split it up alphabetically in separate pages as with the episodic characters. I suggested that before but splitting it that way was deemed an "arbitrary" split as well.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 18:21, 3 July 2008 (EDT)		** I think you meant to split it up alphabetically in separate pages as with the episodic characters. I suggested that before but splitting it that way was deemed an "arbitrary" split as well.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 18:21, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
	*** Seems like we could use it now. I'd prefer it. --[[User:DocM\|DocM]] 11:13, 4 July 2008 (EDT)		*** Seems like we could use it now. I'd prefer it. --[[User:DocM\|DocM]] 11:13, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

			=="Splitting the portal" revisited==
			I just taught that, even though I still favor ''not'' splitting this portal, I should give an example how to break it down to sub-portals. It's been quite clear that the evsdropr GNs (and the characters) could be sorted by four main Company agent partnerships; Donna & Thompson (the central partnership in [[Donna's Big Date]], [[Career Choices]] & [[Trust Issues]]), Bianca & Devin ([[Berlin]] central partnership), Sabine & Julien ([[Root and Branch]] central partnership), and Penny and Connie ([[Faces]] central partnership). Consequently, we would end up with these four sub-portals:
			*'''[[Donna Dunlap]] & [[Thompson, Jr.]]''', [[Felicia]], [[Leonard Cushing]], and [[Jamie Wu]]
			*'''[[Penny Logan\|Penny]] & [[Connie Logan]]''', [[Teleporter]], [[Teleporter's girlfriend]], [[Manhattan target]], and [[Thompson's colleague]]
			*'''[[Sabine Hazel]] & [[Julien Dumont]]''', [[Escape driver]], [[Level 5 agent]], [[Antarctica clone]], [[Australia clone]], [[Congo clone]], [[Decoy clone]], [[Escape clone]], and [[Hartsdale clone]]
			*'''[[Bianca Karina]] & [[Devin Patterson]]''', [[Gael Cruz]], [[The German]], and [[The German's informant]]

			There are problems with this though. Gael and Devin both appeared in other novels prior to [[Berlin]]. In addition Gael played a major role in ''several'' GNs, and is by no means tied to Bianca, albeit him being engaged to her. Finally, for obvious reasons, [[evsdropr]] him(/her-)self can't go into just one of these four possible subportals. This has me thinking that keeping them in one portal only is better, but I'm not as sure as I once was. [[User:Pierre\|Pierre]] 16:54, 22 July 2008 (EDT)

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	****** I agree with you on other issues, MV, but on this, I don't share your opinion. One portal with a central character makes much more sense to me than numerous portals with characters somewhat arbitrarily assigned to each other. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:34, 4 July 2008 (EDT)		****** I agree with you on other issues, MV, but on this, I don't share your opinion. One portal with a central character makes much more sense to me than numerous portals with characters somewhat arbitrarily assigned to each other. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:34, 4 July 2008 (EDT)
	****** I can't speak for how everyone uses them, but I can say that when the portals were implemented, they were meant to be a sort of visual search. If, for example, you wanted the article on Linderman's hotel manager but didn't know her name, you could go to minor characters and find [[Miss Sakamoto]]. If you wanted to read the article on the gun used by company agents but weren't sure how the article was named, you could go to weapons and find [[the Company's guns]]. To me, the ability to find people where you expect them to be, particularly with minor characters whose names are often mere descriptions, is paramount. You can type stuff in the search box all day and not realize that the girl from the burning building is [[Sheila]], but you can find her easily in the portal. Yes, we have other ways to search, but they all rely on the user knowing what to search for. Only the portals provide an easy visual search. (Related articles pages don't because they aren't exhaustive.)--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 21:58, 5 July 2008 (EDT)		****** I can't speak for how everyone uses them, but I can say that when the portals were implemented, they were meant to be a sort of visual search. If, for example, you wanted the article on Linderman's hotel manager but didn't know her name, you could go to minor characters and find [[Miss Sakamoto]]. If you wanted to read the article on the gun used by company agents but weren't sure how the article was named, you could go to weapons and find [[the Company's guns]]. To me, the ability to find people where you expect them to be, particularly with minor characters whose names are often mere descriptions, is paramount. You can type stuff in the search box all day and not realize that the girl from the burning building is [[Sheila]], but you can find her easily in the portal. Yes, we have other ways to search, but they all rely on the user knowing what to search for. Only the portals provide an easy visual search. (Related articles pages don't because they aren't exhaustive.)--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 21:58, 5 July 2008 (EDT)
	******* I've removed the rename tag as I said I would; the consensus is clearly in favor of keeping this as it now is. Just to clarify my opinion: When you go from portal to portal, not knowing how the article is named, I consider that browsing. In that way, I look at portals as like the store windows of a shop. You should be able to see some of the store items inside, but not necessarily the whole store unless the store is small enough. I think this page is large enough be split, if not into subportals then by alphabetically as expressed below. I think of the split as making the portal into a kind of like a rotating display.--18:42, 10 July 2008 (EDT)		******* I've removed the rename tag as I said I would; the consensus is clearly in favor of keeping this as it now is. Just to clarify my opinion: When you go from portal to portal, not knowing how the article is named, I consider that browsing. In that way, I look at portals as like the store windows of a shop. You should be able to see some of the store items inside, but not necessarily the whole store unless the store is small enough. I think this page is large enough be split, if not into subportals then by alphabetically as expressed below. I think of the split as making the portal into a kind of like a rotating display.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 18:42, 10 July 2008 (EDT)

	==Another alternative==		==Another alternative==

imported>MiamiVolts: /* Undo the merge */ note that I removed the split/rename tag

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	****** I agree with you on other issues, MV, but on this, I don't share your opinion. One portal with a central character makes much more sense to me than numerous portals with characters somewhat arbitrarily assigned to each other. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:34, 4 July 2008 (EDT)		****** I agree with you on other issues, MV, but on this, I don't share your opinion. One portal with a central character makes much more sense to me than numerous portals with characters somewhat arbitrarily assigned to each other. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:34, 4 July 2008 (EDT)
	****** I can't speak for how everyone uses them, but I can say that when the portals were implemented, they were meant to be a sort of visual search. If, for example, you wanted the article on Linderman's hotel manager but didn't know her name, you could go to minor characters and find [[Miss Sakamoto]]. If you wanted to read the article on the gun used by company agents but weren't sure how the article was named, you could go to weapons and find [[the Company's guns]]. To me, the ability to find people where you expect them to be, particularly with minor characters whose names are often mere descriptions, is paramount. You can type stuff in the search box all day and not realize that the girl from the burning building is [[Sheila]], but you can find her easily in the portal. Yes, we have other ways to search, but they all rely on the user knowing what to search for. Only the portals provide an easy visual search. (Related articles pages don't because they aren't exhaustive.)--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 21:58, 5 July 2008 (EDT)		****** I can't speak for how everyone uses them, but I can say that when the portals were implemented, they were meant to be a sort of visual search. If, for example, you wanted the article on Linderman's hotel manager but didn't know her name, you could go to minor characters and find [[Miss Sakamoto]]. If you wanted to read the article on the gun used by company agents but weren't sure how the article was named, you could go to weapons and find [[the Company's guns]]. To me, the ability to find people where you expect them to be, particularly with minor characters whose names are often mere descriptions, is paramount. You can type stuff in the search box all day and not realize that the girl from the burning building is [[Sheila]], but you can find her easily in the portal. Yes, we have other ways to search, but they all rely on the user knowing what to search for. Only the portals provide an easy visual search. (Related articles pages don't because they aren't exhaustive.)--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 21:58, 5 July 2008 (EDT)
			******* I've removed the rename tag as I said I would; the consensus is clearly in favor of keeping this as it now is. Just to clarify my opinion: When you go from portal to portal, not knowing how the article is named, I consider that browsing. In that way, I look at portals as like the store windows of a shop. You should be able to see some of the store items inside, but not necessarily the whole store unless the store is small enough. I think this page is large enough be split, if not into subportals then by alphabetically as expressed below. I think of the split as making the portal into a kind of like a rotating display.--18:42, 10 July 2008 (EDT)

	==Another alternative==		==Another alternative==

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	***** That's exactly the fundamental difference of opinion we have. My opinion is that the portals are for browsing, not for searching or easily finding characters or other articles. We have at least three other "better" tools people can use for finding things directly: the search box, categories and related articles pages. Assuming no one else shares my opinion, I'll remove the rename tag next week.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 02:39, 4 July 2008 (EDT)		***** That's exactly the fundamental difference of opinion we have. My opinion is that the portals are for browsing, not for searching or easily finding characters or other articles. We have at least three other "better" tools people can use for finding things directly: the search box, categories and related articles pages. Assuming no one else shares my opinion, I'll remove the rename tag next week.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 02:39, 4 July 2008 (EDT)
	****** I agree with you on other issues, MV, but on this, I don't share your opinion. One portal with a central character makes much more sense to me than numerous portals with characters somewhat arbitrarily assigned to each other. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:34, 4 July 2008 (EDT)		****** I agree with you on other issues, MV, but on this, I don't share your opinion. One portal with a central character makes much more sense to me than numerous portals with characters somewhat arbitrarily assigned to each other. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:34, 4 July 2008 (EDT)
			****** I can't speak for how everyone uses them, but I can say that when the portals were implemented, they were meant to be a sort of visual search. If, for example, you wanted the article on Linderman's hotel manager but didn't know her name, you could go to minor characters and find [[Miss Sakamoto]]. If you wanted to read the article on the gun used by company agents but weren't sure how the article was named, you could go to weapons and find [[the Company's guns]]. To me, the ability to find people where you expect them to be, particularly with minor characters whose names are often mere descriptions, is paramount. You can type stuff in the search box all day and not realize that the girl from the burning building is [[Sheila]], but you can find her easily in the portal. Yes, we have other ways to search, but they all rely on the user knowing what to search for. Only the portals provide an easy visual search. (Related articles pages don't because they aren't exhaustive.)--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 21:58, 5 July 2008 (EDT)

	==Another alternative==		==Another alternative==

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	**** Exactly. The "So-and-So GN Related Characters" page works great when you have main characters from the show who have relatively minor characters associated with them and only them. It doesn't work particularly well with a whole bunch of characters interwoven from a bunch of different novels with a bunch of different lead characters, many of whom are also supporting characters in another's novel. The one thing they all have in common is the Evsdropr thread. I'd rather have a big portal than have people keep wondering why So-and-So isn't on Such-and-Such portal and whatnot. I think related articles pages might be a great answer for some of the bigger characters, but it doesn't solve the problem of people looking in the wrong portal for someone we have somewhat arbitrarily decided belongs elsewhere. The portals are here to help people find articles they're looking for, not to impose an artificial and strained taxonomy just so we can make sure nobody ever has to scroll.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 00:53, 4 July 2008 (EDT)		**** Exactly. The "So-and-So GN Related Characters" page works great when you have main characters from the show who have relatively minor characters associated with them and only them. It doesn't work particularly well with a whole bunch of characters interwoven from a bunch of different novels with a bunch of different lead characters, many of whom are also supporting characters in another's novel. The one thing they all have in common is the Evsdropr thread. I'd rather have a big portal than have people keep wondering why So-and-So isn't on Such-and-Such portal and whatnot. I think related articles pages might be a great answer for some of the bigger characters, but it doesn't solve the problem of people looking in the wrong portal for someone we have somewhat arbitrarily decided belongs elsewhere. The portals are here to help people find articles they're looking for, not to impose an artificial and strained taxonomy just so we can make sure nobody ever has to scroll.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 00:53, 4 July 2008 (EDT)
	***** That's exactly the fundamental difference of opinion we have. My opinion is that the portals are for browsing, not for searching or easily finding characters or other articles. We have at least three other "better" tools people can use for finding things directly: the search box, categories and related articles pages. Assuming no one else shares my opinion, I'll remove the rename tag next week.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 02:39, 4 July 2008 (EDT)		***** That's exactly the fundamental difference of opinion we have. My opinion is that the portals are for browsing, not for searching or easily finding characters or other articles. We have at least three other "better" tools people can use for finding things directly: the search box, categories and related articles pages. Assuming no one else shares my opinion, I'll remove the rename tag next week.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 02:39, 4 July 2008 (EDT)
			****** I agree with you on other issues, MV, but on this, I don't share your opinion. One portal with a central character makes much more sense to me than numerous portals with characters somewhat arbitrarily assigned to each other. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:34, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

	==Another alternative==		==Another alternative==
	If we don't care about size, we could switch to a different format for grouping graphic novel characters. NBC.com has been detailing the evolutions history by season in the official walkthrough (up to ''Maya y Alejandro'' for [http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/evolutions/season1/season1_walkThru1.shtml Season One], and the rest thus far in [http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/evolutions/season2/season2_walkThru1.shtml Season Two]). We could group the characters and novels the same way, and then the distinction would not be "arbitrary" since NBC.com is doing the same. I'm not a big fan of the idea since the size would be much larger, but I would prefer something more equal than what we now have due to this merge.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:43, 3 July 2008 (EDT)		If we don't care about size, we could switch to a different format for grouping graphic novel characters. NBC.com has been detailing the evolutions history by season in the official walkthrough (up to ''Maya y Alejandro'' for [http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/evolutions/season1/season1_walkThru1.shtml Season One], and the rest thus far in [http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/evolutions/season2/season2_walkThru1.shtml Season Two]). We could group the characters and novels the same way, and then the distinction would not be "arbitrary" since NBC.com is doing the same. I'm not a big fan of the idea since the size would be much larger, but I would prefer something more equal than what we now have due to this merge.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:43, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

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	* Size wouldn't larger if we do the "15 characters with alphabeticalness" thing like with the episodes. Maybe have a different section for characters who are also in the television show as well. Limitless. (did anybody understand what I meant?) --[[User:DocM\|DocM]] 17:30, 3 July 2008 (EDT)		* Size wouldn't larger if we do the "15 characters with alphabeticalness" thing like with the episodes. Maybe have a different section for characters who are also in the television show as well. Limitless. (did anybody understand what I meant?) --[[User:DocM\|DocM]] 17:30, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
	** I think you meant to split it up alphabetically in separate pages as with the episodic characters. I suggested that before but splitting it that way was deemed an "arbitrary" split as well.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 18:21, 3 July 2008 (EDT)		** I think you meant to split it up alphabetically in separate pages as with the episodic characters. I suggested that before but splitting it that way was deemed an "arbitrary" split as well.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 18:21, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
			*** Seems like we could use it now. I'd prefer it. --[[User:DocM\|DocM]] 11:13, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

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	*** I have not been managing alright with the split up portals. I always forget which characters are in which portal. It's hard to remember who we are calling a Donna-related character and who we are calling a Sabine-related character, and why we're not calling anybody a Thompson-related character, etc. It's so much easier and less confusing (especially for the more casual reader) to simply locate the Evs-related portal and choose the character from there...and my computer is showing only one page--even my older computer is showing just over one page. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:55, 3 July 2008 (EDT)		*** I have not been managing alright with the split up portals. I always forget which characters are in which portal. It's hard to remember who we are calling a Donna-related character and who we are calling a Sabine-related character, and why we're not calling anybody a Thompson-related character, etc. It's so much easier and less confusing (especially for the more casual reader) to simply locate the Evs-related portal and choose the character from there...and my computer is showing only one page--even my older computer is showing just over one page. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:55, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
	**** Exactly. The "So-and-So GN Related Characters" page works great when you have main characters from the show who have relatively minor characters associated with them and only them. It doesn't work particularly well with a whole bunch of characters interwoven from a bunch of different novels with a bunch of different lead characters, many of whom are also supporting characters in another's novel. The one thing they all have in common is the Evsdropr thread. I'd rather have a big portal than have people keep wondering why So-and-So isn't on Such-and-Such portal and whatnot. I think related articles pages might be a great answer for some of the bigger characters, but it doesn't solve the problem of people looking in the wrong portal for someone we have somewhat arbitrarily decided belongs elsewhere. The portals are here to help people find articles they're looking for, not to impose an artificial and strained taxonomy just so we can make sure nobody ever has to scroll.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 00:53, 4 July 2008 (EDT)		**** Exactly. The "So-and-So GN Related Characters" page works great when you have main characters from the show who have relatively minor characters associated with them and only them. It doesn't work particularly well with a whole bunch of characters interwoven from a bunch of different novels with a bunch of different lead characters, many of whom are also supporting characters in another's novel. The one thing they all have in common is the Evsdropr thread. I'd rather have a big portal than have people keep wondering why So-and-So isn't on Such-and-Such portal and whatnot. I think related articles pages might be a great answer for some of the bigger characters, but it doesn't solve the problem of people looking in the wrong portal for someone we have somewhat arbitrarily decided belongs elsewhere. The portals are here to help people find articles they're looking for, not to impose an artificial and strained taxonomy just so we can make sure nobody ever has to scroll.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 00:53, 4 July 2008 (EDT)
	***** That's exactly the fundamental difference of opinion we have. My opinion is that the portals are for browsing, not for searching or easily finding characters or other articles. We have at least three other "better" tools people can use for finding things directly: the search box, categories and related articles pages. Assuming no one else shares my opinion, I'll remove the rename tag next week.--02:39, 4 July 2008 (EDT)		***** That's exactly the fundamental difference of opinion we have. My opinion is that the portals are for browsing, not for searching or easily finding characters or other articles. We have at least three other "better" tools people can use for finding things directly: the search box, categories and related articles pages. Assuming no one else shares my opinion, I'll remove the rename tag next week.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 02:39, 4 July 2008 (EDT)
	==Another alternative==		==Another alternative==
	If we don't care about size, we could switch to a different format for grouping graphic novel characters. NBC.com has been detailing the evolutions history by season in the official walkthrough (up to ''Maya y Alejandro'' for [http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/evolutions/season1/season1_walkThru1.shtml Season One], and the rest thus far in [http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/evolutions/season2/season2_walkThru1.shtml Season Two]). We could group the characters and novels the same way, and then the distinction would not be "arbitrary" since NBC.com is doing the same. I'm not a big fan of the idea since the size would be much larger, but I would prefer something more equal than what we now have due to this merge.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:43, 3 July 2008 (EDT)		If we don't care about size, we could switch to a different format for grouping graphic novel characters. NBC.com has been detailing the evolutions history by season in the official walkthrough (up to ''Maya y Alejandro'' for [http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/evolutions/season1/season1_walkThru1.shtml Season One], and the rest thus far in [http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/evolutions/season2/season2_walkThru1.shtml Season Two]). We could group the characters and novels the same way, and then the distinction would not be "arbitrary" since NBC.com is doing the same. I'm not a big fan of the idea since the size would be much larger, but I would prefer something more equal than what we now have due to this merge.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:43, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

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	* Size wouldn't larger if we do the "15 characters with alphabeticalness" thing like with the episodes. Maybe have a different section for characters who are also in the television show as well. Limitless. (did anybody understand what I meant?) --[[User:DocM\|DocM]] 17:30, 3 July 2008 (EDT)		* Size wouldn't larger if we do the "15 characters with alphabeticalness" thing like with the episodes. Maybe have a different section for characters who are also in the television show as well. Limitless. (did anybody understand what I meant?) --[[User:DocM\|DocM]] 17:30, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
	** I think you meant to split it up alphabetically in separate pages as with the episodic characters. I suggested that before but splitting it that way was deemed an "arbitrary" split as well.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 18:21, 3 July 2008 (EDT)		** I think you meant to split it up alphabetically in separate pages as with the episodic characters. I suggested that before but splitting it that way was deemed an "arbitrary" split as well.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 18:21, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
			*** Seems like we could use it now. I'd prefer it. --[[User:DocM\|DocM]] 11:13, 4 July 2008 (EDT)