Talk:Portal:References - Revision history

imported>Tristan0709: /* Proposal for split */ red link.

2009-01-18T09:16:19Z

Proposal for split: red link.

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imported>Tristan0709: /* Proposal for split */ red link.

2009-01-18T09:16:19Z

Proposal for split: red link.

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imported>Pinkkeith: /* Proposal for split */

2008-02-21T19:39:46Z

Proposal for split

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	* I think it looks great. Yet, I'm still confused how we know what goes into references. Is '''<nowiki>[[Portal:Other References]]</nowiki>''' going to be a catch all? That's what my take is from the way you are organize the articles. I would also suggest that '''<nowiki>[[Portal:References to other works]]</nowiki>''' be renamed '''<nowiki>[[Portal:References to other media works]]</nowiki>'''. Like I said, over all, I love it! --[[User:Pinkkeith\|Pinkkeith]] 10:39, 26 November 2007 (EST)		* I think it looks great. Yet, I'm still confused how we know what goes into references. Is '''<nowiki>[[Portal:Other References]]</nowiki>''' going to be a catch all? That's what my take is from the way you are organize the articles. I would also suggest that '''<nowiki>[[Portal:References to other works]]</nowiki>''' be renamed '''<nowiki>[[Portal:References to other media works]]</nowiki>'''. Like I said, over all, I love it! --[[User:Pinkkeith\|Pinkkeith]] 10:39, 26 November 2007 (EST)
	**Yes, pretty much, "Other References" will be a catchall. I have no problem renaming "other works", and you gave a good suggestion--it's more specific to what the portal actually is. However, I'd rename it "other media" (the "works" just seems superfluous). -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 10:51, 26 November 2007 (EST)		**Yes, pretty much, "Other References" will be a catchall. I have no problem renaming "other works", and you gave a good suggestion--it's more specific to what the portal actually is. However, I'd rename it "other media" (the "works" just seems superfluous). -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 10:51, 26 November 2007 (EST)
			*This has not had any other input in over four months now. I listed only the ones above to the correct location and moved those that were not listed already in the correct location. I'll move the portal to '''Portal:Other References'''. --[[User:Pinkkeith\|Pinkkeith]] 14:39, 21 February 2008 (EST)

imported>FrenchFlo: /* Proposal for split */ I mean.. 3 red links

2007-11-27T22:24:55Z

Proposal for split: I mean.. 3 red links

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	That leaves us 21, and they fit a little better. Some of those can still be shipped to other places or split off if we wanted. For instance, [[brain]], [[Charles Darwin]], and [[evolution]] could all go under [[Portal:Research]]. We could make "Portal:References to Religions" and include [[Judaism]], [[Kali]], [[Vodou]], and then write an article for "Buddhism" and "Christianity". That would also solve the problem we have with [[Faith and religion]], which really doesn't list ''all'' instances of faith and religion, and is a bit more about Christianity anyway. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:58, 24 November 2007 (EST)		That leaves us 21, and they fit a little better. Some of those can still be shipped to other places or split off if we wanted. For instance, [[brain]], [[Charles Darwin]], and [[evolution]] could all go under [[Portal:Research]]. We could make "Portal:References to Religions" and include [[Judaism]], [[Kali]], [[Vodou]], and then write an article for "Buddhism" and "Christianity". That would also solve the problem we have with [[Faith and religion]], which really doesn't list ''all'' instances of faith and religion, and is a bit more about Christianity anyway. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:58, 24 November 2007 (EST)
	* Sounds great, Ryan, I couldn't have thought of anything better myself! :)--{{User:SacValleyDweller/sig}} 22:28, 24 November 2007 (EST)		* Sounds great, Ryan, I couldn't have thought of anything better myself! :)--{{User:SacValleyDweller/sig}} 22:28, 24 November 2007 (EST)
	* I think it looks great. Yet, I'm still confused how we know what goes into references. Is [[Portal:Other References]] going to be a catch all? That's what my take is from the way you are organize the articles. I would also suggest that '''<nowiki>[[Portal:References to other works]]</nowiki>''' be renamed '''<nowiki>[[Portal:References to other media works]]</nowiki>'''. Like I said, over all, I love it! --[[User:Pinkkeith\|Pinkkeith]] 10:39, 26 November 2007 (EST)		* I think it looks great. Yet, I'm still confused how we know what goes into references. Is '''<nowiki>[[Portal:Other References]]</nowiki>''' going to be a catch all? That's what my take is from the way you are organize the articles. I would also suggest that '''<nowiki>[[Portal:References to other works]]</nowiki>''' be renamed '''<nowiki>[[Portal:References to other media works]]</nowiki>'''. Like I said, over all, I love it! --[[User:Pinkkeith\|Pinkkeith]] 10:39, 26 November 2007 (EST)
	**Yes, pretty much, "Other References" will be a catchall. I have no problem renaming "other works", and you gave a good suggestion--it's more specific to what the portal actually is. However, I'd rename it "other media" (the "works" just seems superfluous). -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 10:51, 26 November 2007 (EST)		**Yes, pretty much, "Other References" will be a catchall. I have no problem renaming "other works", and you gave a good suggestion--it's more specific to what the portal actually is. However, I'd rename it "other media" (the "works" just seems superfluous). -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 10:51, 26 November 2007 (EST)

imported>FrenchFlo: /* Proposal for split */ removed 2 uneeded redlinks.

2007-11-27T22:24:03Z

Proposal for split: removed 2 uneeded redlinks.

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	That leaves us 21, and they fit a little better. Some of those can still be shipped to other places or split off if we wanted. For instance, [[brain]], [[Charles Darwin]], and [[evolution]] could all go under [[Portal:Research]]. We could make "Portal:References to Religions" and include [[Judaism]], [[Kali]], [[Vodou]], and then write an article for "Buddhism" and "Christianity". That would also solve the problem we have with [[Faith and religion]], which really doesn't list ''all'' instances of faith and religion, and is a bit more about Christianity anyway. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:58, 24 November 2007 (EST)		That leaves us 21, and they fit a little better. Some of those can still be shipped to other places or split off if we wanted. For instance, [[brain]], [[Charles Darwin]], and [[evolution]] could all go under [[Portal:Research]]. We could make "Portal:References to Religions" and include [[Judaism]], [[Kali]], [[Vodou]], and then write an article for "Buddhism" and "Christianity". That would also solve the problem we have with [[Faith and religion]], which really doesn't list ''all'' instances of faith and religion, and is a bit more about Christianity anyway. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:58, 24 November 2007 (EST)
	* Sounds great, Ryan, I couldn't have thought of anything better myself! :)--{{User:SacValleyDweller/sig}} 22:28, 24 November 2007 (EST)		* Sounds great, Ryan, I couldn't have thought of anything better myself! :)--{{User:SacValleyDweller/sig}} 22:28, 24 November 2007 (EST)
	* I think it looks great. Yet, I'm still confused how we know what goes into references. Is [[Portal:Other References]] going to be a catch all? That's what my take is from the way you are organize the articles. I would also suggest that [[Portal:References to other works]] be renamed [[Portal:References to other media works]]. Like I said, over all, I love it! --[[User:Pinkkeith\|Pinkkeith]] 10:39, 26 November 2007 (EST)		* I think it looks great. Yet, I'm still confused how we know what goes into references. Is [[Portal:Other References]] going to be a catch all? That's what my take is from the way you are organize the articles. I would also suggest that '''<nowiki>[[Portal:References to other works]]</nowiki>''' be renamed '''<nowiki>[[Portal:References to other media works]]</nowiki>'''. Like I said, over all, I love it! --[[User:Pinkkeith\|Pinkkeith]] 10:39, 26 November 2007 (EST)
	**Yes, pretty much, "Other References" will be a catchall. I have no problem renaming "other works", and you gave a good suggestion--it's more specific to what the portal actually is. However, I'd rename it "other media" (the "works" just seems superfluous). -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 10:51, 26 November 2007 (EST)		**Yes, pretty much, "Other References" will be a catchall. I have no problem renaming "other works", and you gave a good suggestion--it's more specific to what the portal actually is. However, I'd rename it "other media" (the "works" just seems superfluous). -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 10:51, 26 November 2007 (EST)

imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* Proposal for split */

2007-11-26T15:51:28Z

Proposal for split

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	* Sounds great, Ryan, I couldn't have thought of anything better myself! :)--{{User:SacValleyDweller/sig}} 22:28, 24 November 2007 (EST)		* Sounds great, Ryan, I couldn't have thought of anything better myself! :)--{{User:SacValleyDweller/sig}} 22:28, 24 November 2007 (EST)
	* I think it looks great. Yet, I'm still confused how we know what goes into references. Is [[Portal:Other References]] going to be a catch all? That's what my take is from the way you are organize the articles. I would also suggest that [[Portal:References to other works]] be renamed [[Portal:References to other media works]]. Like I said, over all, I love it! --[[User:Pinkkeith\|Pinkkeith]] 10:39, 26 November 2007 (EST)		* I think it looks great. Yet, I'm still confused how we know what goes into references. Is [[Portal:Other References]] going to be a catch all? That's what my take is from the way you are organize the articles. I would also suggest that [[Portal:References to other works]] be renamed [[Portal:References to other media works]]. Like I said, over all, I love it! --[[User:Pinkkeith\|Pinkkeith]] 10:39, 26 November 2007 (EST)
			**Yes, pretty much, "Other References" will be a catchall. I have no problem renaming "other works", and you gave a good suggestion--it's more specific to what the portal actually is. However, I'd rename it "other media" (the "works" just seems superfluous). -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 10:51, 26 November 2007 (EST)

imported>Pinkkeith: /* Proposal for split */

2007-11-26T15:39:44Z

Proposal for split

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	That leaves us 21, and they fit a little better. Some of those can still be shipped to other places or split off if we wanted. For instance, [[brain]], [[Charles Darwin]], and [[evolution]] could all go under [[Portal:Research]]. We could make "Portal:References to Religions" and include [[Judaism]], [[Kali]], [[Vodou]], and then write an article for "Buddhism" and "Christianity". That would also solve the problem we have with [[Faith and religion]], which really doesn't list ''all'' instances of faith and religion, and is a bit more about Christianity anyway. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:58, 24 November 2007 (EST)		That leaves us 21, and they fit a little better. Some of those can still be shipped to other places or split off if we wanted. For instance, [[brain]], [[Charles Darwin]], and [[evolution]] could all go under [[Portal:Research]]. We could make "Portal:References to Religions" and include [[Judaism]], [[Kali]], [[Vodou]], and then write an article for "Buddhism" and "Christianity". That would also solve the problem we have with [[Faith and religion]], which really doesn't list ''all'' instances of faith and religion, and is a bit more about Christianity anyway. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:58, 24 November 2007 (EST)
	* Sounds great, Ryan, I couldn't have thought of anything better myself! :)--{{User:SacValleyDweller/sig}} 22:28, 24 November 2007 (EST)		* Sounds great, Ryan, I couldn't have thought of anything better myself! :)--{{User:SacValleyDweller/sig}} 22:28, 24 November 2007 (EST)
			* I think it looks great. Yet, I'm still confused how we know what goes into references. Is [[Portal:Other References]] going to be a catch all? That's what my take is from the way you are organize the articles. I would also suggest that [[Portal:References to other works]] be renamed [[Portal:References to other media works]]. Like I said, over all, I love it! --[[User:Pinkkeith\|Pinkkeith]] 10:39, 26 November 2007 (EST)

imported>SacValleyDweller: /* Proposal for split */

2007-11-25T03:28:04Z

Proposal for split

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	That leaves us 21, and they fit a little better. Some of those can still be shipped to other places or split off if we wanted. For instance, [[brain]], [[Charles Darwin]], and [[evolution]] could all go under [[Portal:Research]]. We could make "Portal:References to Religions" and include [[Judaism]], [[Kali]], [[Vodou]], and then write an article for "Buddhism" and "Christianity". That would also solve the problem we have with [[Faith and religion]], which really doesn't list ''all'' instances of faith and religion, and is a bit more about Christianity anyway. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:58, 24 November 2007 (EST)		That leaves us 21, and they fit a little better. Some of those can still be shipped to other places or split off if we wanted. For instance, [[brain]], [[Charles Darwin]], and [[evolution]] could all go under [[Portal:Research]]. We could make "Portal:References to Religions" and include [[Judaism]], [[Kali]], [[Vodou]], and then write an article for "Buddhism" and "Christianity". That would also solve the problem we have with [[Faith and religion]], which really doesn't list ''all'' instances of faith and religion, and is a bit more about Christianity anyway. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:58, 24 November 2007 (EST)
			* Sounds great, Ryan, I couldn't have thought of anything better myself! :)--{{User:SacValleyDweller/sig}} 22:28, 24 November 2007 (EST)

imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* Proposal for split */

2007-11-25T01:59:09Z

Proposal for split

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	This proposal crosses category lines and affects other portals, so bear with me...		This proposal crosses category lines and affects other portals, so bear with me...
	# [[Portal:References to other works]] looks pretty good, and I don't think we really need to touch it.		# [[Portal:References to other works]] looks pretty good, and I don't think we really need to touch it.
	# I think we should remove any and all animals from the references since we have a portal for [[~~portal~~:~~animals~~\|animals]]. Even if they never appeared on the show (hello, [[manatees]]), they'll still be covered in a more natural portal.		# I think we should remove any and all animals from the references since we have a portal for [[Portal:Animals\|animals]]. Even if they never appeared on the show (hello, [[manatees]]), they'll still be covered in a more natural portal.
	# All the wars should be moved off the portal and into a subportal of [[Portal:Events]]. The events portal should also be split up, but that's another conversation which is being discussed [[Talk:Portal:Events\|here]].		# All the wars should be moved off the portal and into a subportal of [[Portal:Events]]. The events portal should also be split up, but that's another conversation which is being discussed [[Talk:Portal:Events\|here]].
	# All groups should go into [[Portal:Groups]].		# All groups should go into [[Portal:Groups]].

imported>Ryangibsonstewart: New section: Proposal for split

2007-11-25T01:58:55Z

New section: Proposal for split

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	*We really ought to define what we mean by "references". Characters could be references, if we define it as broadly as we are right now. I think it we should stick to things (products, events, etc) that are mentioned but not actually in the show or in the graphic novel. For example, right now we have [[Hurricane Katrina]] under the [[Portal:Events\|event portal]]/template and we have the [[Vietnam War]] under the [[Portal:Real-world references\|real-world reference portal]]/template. [[Product placement]] should be its on portal with [[Nissan Versa]] placed under it. Its not really a reference under my definition, since it was shown in the show. There ought to be references to animals with [[Dinosaur]], and [[Manatee]] placed under it. [[Cockroaches]] have been actually seen in the show. These are just my thoughts. We could define references some other way.		*We really ought to define what we mean by "references". Characters could be references, if we define it as broadly as we are right now. I think it we should stick to things (products, events, etc) that are mentioned but not actually in the show or in the graphic novel. For example, right now we have [[Hurricane Katrina]] under the [[Portal:Events\|event portal]]/template and we have the [[Vietnam War]] under the [[Portal:Real-world references\|real-world reference portal]]/template. [[Product placement]] should be its on portal with [[Nissan Versa]] placed under it. Its not really a reference under my definition, since it was shown in the show. There ought to be references to animals with [[Dinosaur]], and [[Manatee]] placed under it. [[Cockroaches]] have been actually seen in the show. These are just my thoughts. We could define references some other way.
	**I agree that there needs to be some definition, and a split really does need to occur. Portal:References until now has been a sort of dumping ground for articles that don't really fit anywhere else. Let me look at it and come up with some ideas... -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:36, 24 November 2007 (EST)		**I agree that there needs to be some definition, and a split really does need to occur. Portal:References until now has been a sort of dumping ground for articles that don't really fit anywhere else. Let me look at it and come up with some ideas... -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:36, 24 November 2007 (EST)

			== Proposal for split ==

			This proposal crosses category lines and affects other portals, so bear with me...
			# [[Portal:References to other works]] looks pretty good, and I don't think we really need to touch it.
			# I think we should remove any and all animals from the references since we have a portal for [[portal:animals\|animals]]. Even if they never appeared on the show (hello, [[manatees]]), they'll still be covered in a more natural portal.
			# All the wars should be moved off the portal and into a subportal of [[Portal:Events]]. The events portal should also be split up, but that's another conversation which is being discussed [[Talk:Portal:Events\|here]].
			# All groups should go into [[Portal:Groups]].
			# A few random things which are already in other portals ([[heroin]], [[Human Genome Project]], [[Nissan Versa]]) should be removed and kept to just one portal.
			# We should rename "Portal:Real-world references" to "Portal:Other References" since not all the references are in the real world.
			That would leave us with the following articles:

			[[Brain]]<br>
			[[Bushido]]<br>
			[[Cúchulainn]]<br>
			[[Charles Darwin]]<br>
			[[Depression]]<br>
			[[Duvaliers]]<br>
			[[Dyslexia]]<br>
			[[Evolution]]<br>
			[[Gannon Car Rentals]]<br>
			[[Heart]]<br>
			[[Judaism]]<br>
			[[Kali]]<br>
			[[Origami]]<br>
			[[Product placement]]<br>
			[[Rape]]<br>
			[[Split personality]]<br>
			[[Spoon]]<br>
			[[Suicide]]<br>
			[[Vodou]]<br>
			[[Waffles]]<br>
			[[Yatta!]]

			That leaves us 21, and they fit a little better. Some of those can still be shipped to other places or split off if we wanted. For instance, [[brain]], [[Charles Darwin]], and [[evolution]] could all go under [[Portal:Research]]. We could make "Portal:References to Religions" and include [[Judaism]], [[Kali]], [[Vodou]], and then write an article for "Buddhism" and "Christianity". That would also solve the problem we have with [[Faith and religion]], which really doesn't list ''all'' instances of faith and religion, and is a bit more about Christianity anyway. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:58, 24 November 2007 (EST)