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	{{power names\|5\|eos=~~Future~~ ~~Peter~~ ~~reveals~~ ~~that~~ he ~~placed~~ ~~his~~ ~~present~~ ~~day~~ ~~self~~ ~~inside the body~~ of ~~former~~ ~~Level~~ 5 ~~prisoner~~ ~~[[Jesse~~ ~~Murphy~~]] ~~{{epp\|302}}~~}}		{{power names\|2\|eos=[[Claire]] says to [[Harold Esposito]], "You can possess people." (Chapter 15 of ''[[Save the Cheerleader, Destroy the World]]'')}}

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	In ''[[Save the Cheerleader, Destroy the World]]'', this ability is referred to several times as [[possession]]:		In ''[[Save the Cheerleader, Destroy the World]]'', this ability is referred to several times as [[possession]]:
	* [[Claire]] says to [[Harold Esposito]], "You can possess people." (Chapter 15)		* [[Claire]] says to [[Harold Esposito]], "You can possess people." (Chapter 15)
	* [[Richard Schwenkman]] says, "If you try to escape again, Harold will possess you," and later, "[[[Nick Arbucci\|Agent Arbucci]]] is trying desperately to convince his superiors that he was possessed by an Evo." (Chapter 15)		* [[Richard Schwenkman]] says, "If you try to escape again, Harold will possess you," and later, "[ [[Nick Arbucci\|Agent Arbucci]] ] is trying desperately to convince his superiors that he was possessed by an Evo." (Chapter 15)
	* Harold Esposito himself says, "I can just possess a random bank manager." (Chapter 15)		* Harold Esposito himself says, "I can just possess a random bank manager." (Chapter 15)
	* Harold (as [[Peter]]) says, "I should start possessing Evos more often." (Chapter 16)		* Harold (as [[Peter]]) says, "I should start possessing Evos more often." (Chapter 16)

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	* Can we clarify this to "chimeric possession" to differentiate it from "[[Wikipedia:spiritual possession\|spiritual possession]]" and "[[Wikipedia:demonic possession\|demonic possession]]"?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:13, 6 December 2015 (EST)		* Can we clarify this to "chimeric possession" to differentiate it from "[[Wikipedia:spiritual possession\|spiritual possession]]" and "[[Wikipedia:demonic possession\|demonic possession]]"?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:13, 6 December 2015 (EST)
	* I'm not opposed to just calling it "possession". It's just that "possession" by itself isn't my preference for the ability name (in 2008, I [[Talk:Body insertion#Phasing?\|theorized]] that it was atomic chimerism--combining two people atomically instead of genetically). At least there wasn't confirmation that it's phasing... "[[Wiktionary:Chimeric\|Chimeric]] possession" has been proposed for use on the forum of the free/open-source RPG (Tales of Maj’Eyal) to mean possessing up to two creatures at once. I haven't been using that forum or RPG, but the term turned up there when I was searching for online uses of it. Harold's ability works on people--we don't know if it could work on one or more creatures simultaneously as the forum thread was discussing, or even more than one person simultaneously.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 17:51, 6 December 2015 (EST)		* I'm not opposed to just calling it "possession". It's just that "possession" by itself isn't my preference for the ability name (in 2008, I [[Talk:Body insertion#Phasing?\|theorized]] that it was atomic chimerism--combining two people atomically instead of genetically). At least there wasn't confirmation that it's phasing... "[[Wiktionary:Chimeric\|Chimeric]] possession" has been proposed for use on the forum of the free/open-source RPG (Tales of Maj’Eyal) to mean possessing up to two creatures at once. I haven't been using that forum or RPG, but the term turned up there when I was searching for online uses of it. Harold's ability works on people--we don't know if it could work on one or more creatures simultaneously as the forum thread was discussing, or even more than one person simultaneously.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 17:51, 6 December 2015 (EST)
			** No source uses the word "chimeric" or any form of that word, as far as I can find. Let's call it "possession" and then specify its meaning in the page's content and all the "ability to" sections, rather than trying to distinguish it from something that doesn't exist in ''Heroes'' by giving it a distinguishing name. I think just "possession" is fine. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 23:25, 6 December 2015 (EST)

imported>MiamiVolts: /* Possession */ clarify

2015-12-06T22:59:58Z

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	** Sounds good to me. "Body insertion" always struck me as a little weird anyway. --[[User:Radicell\|Radicell]] ([[User talk:Radicell\|talk]]) 18:21, 5 December 2015 (EST)		** Sounds good to me. "Body insertion" always struck me as a little weird anyway. --[[User:Radicell\|Radicell]] ([[User talk:Radicell\|talk]]) 18:21, 5 December 2015 (EST)
	* Can we clarify this to "chimeric possession" to differentiate it from "[[Wikipedia:spiritual possession\|spiritual possession]]" and "[[Wikipedia:demonic possession\|demonic possession]]"?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:13, 6 December 2015 (EST)		* Can we clarify this to "chimeric possession" to differentiate it from "[[Wikipedia:spiritual possession\|spiritual possession]]" and "[[Wikipedia:demonic possession\|demonic possession]]"?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:13, 6 December 2015 (EST)
	* I'm not opposed to just calling it "possession". It's just that "possession" by itself isn't my preference for the ability name (in 2008, I [[Talk:Body insertion#Phasing?\|theorized]] that it was atomic chimerism--combining two people atomically instead of genetically). At least there wasn't confirmation that it's phasing... "[[Wiktionary:Chimeric\|Chimeric]] possession" has been proposed for use on the forum of the free/open-source RPG (Tales of Maj’Eyal) to mean possessing up to two creatures at once. I haven't been using that forum or RPG, but the term turned up there when I was searching for online uses of it. Harold's ability works on people--we don't know if it could work on one or more creatures as the forum thread was discussing, or even more than one person.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 17:51, 6 December 2015 (EST)		* I'm not opposed to just calling it "possession". It's just that "possession" by itself isn't my preference for the ability name (in 2008, I [[Talk:Body insertion#Phasing?\|theorized]] that it was atomic chimerism--combining two people atomically instead of genetically). At least there wasn't confirmation that it's phasing... "[[Wiktionary:Chimeric\|Chimeric]] possession" has been proposed for use on the forum of the free/open-source RPG (Tales of Maj’Eyal) to mean possessing up to two creatures at once. I haven't been using that forum or RPG, but the term turned up there when I was searching for online uses of it. Harold's ability works on people--we don't know if it could work on one or more creatures simultaneously as the forum thread was discussing, or even more than one person simultaneously.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 17:51, 6 December 2015 (EST)

imported>MiamiVolts: /* Possession */ expand

2015-12-06T22:51:50Z

Possession: expand

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	** Sounds good to me. "Body insertion" always struck me as a little weird anyway. --[[User:Radicell\|Radicell]] ([[User talk:Radicell\|talk]]) 18:21, 5 December 2015 (EST)		** Sounds good to me. "Body insertion" always struck me as a little weird anyway. --[[User:Radicell\|Radicell]] ([[User talk:Radicell\|talk]]) 18:21, 5 December 2015 (EST)
	* Can we clarify this to "chimeric possession" to differentiate it from "[[Wikipedia:spiritual possession\|spiritual possession]]" and "[[Wikipedia:demonic possession\|demonic possession]]"?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:13, 6 December 2015 (EST)		* Can we clarify this to "chimeric possession" to differentiate it from "[[Wikipedia:spiritual possession\|spiritual possession]]" and "[[Wikipedia:demonic possession\|demonic possession]]"?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:13, 6 December 2015 (EST)
			* I'm not opposed to just calling it "possession". It's just that "possession" by itself isn't my preference for the ability name (in 2008, I [[Talk:Body insertion#Phasing?\|theorized]] that it was atomic chimerism--combining two people atomically instead of genetically). At least there wasn't confirmation that it's phasing... "[[Wiktionary:Chimeric\|Chimeric]] possession" has been proposed for use on the forum of the free/open-source RPG (Tales of Maj’Eyal) to mean possessing up to two creatures at once. I haven't been using that forum or RPG, but the term turned up there when I was searching for online uses of it. Harold's ability works on people--we don't know if it could work on one or more creatures as the forum thread was discussing, or even more than one person.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 17:51, 6 December 2015 (EST)

imported>MiamiVolts: /* Possession */ fix links

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	* Agreed on the rename in accordance with the convention. ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] ([[User talk:Admin\|talk]]) 17:36, 5 December 2015 (EST))		* Agreed on the rename in accordance with the convention. ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] ([[User talk:Admin\|talk]]) 17:36, 5 December 2015 (EST))
	** Sounds good to me. "Body insertion" always struck me as a little weird anyway. --[[User:Radicell\|Radicell]] ([[User talk:Radicell\|talk]]) 18:21, 5 December 2015 (EST)		** Sounds good to me. "Body insertion" always struck me as a little weird anyway. --[[User:Radicell\|Radicell]] ([[User talk:Radicell\|talk]]) 18:21, 5 December 2015 (EST)
	* Can we clarify this to "chimeric possession" to differentiate it from "[[Wikipedia:spiritual possession]]" and "[[Wikipedia:demonic possession]]"?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:13, 6 December 2015 (EST)		* Can we clarify this to "chimeric possession" to differentiate it from "[[Wikipedia:spiritual possession\|spiritual possession]]" and "[[Wikipedia:demonic possession\|demonic possession]]"?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:13, 6 December 2015 (EST)

imported>MiamiVolts: /* Possession */ clarify?

2015-12-06T19:13:32Z

Possession: clarify?

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	* Agreed on the rename in accordance with the convention. ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] ([[User talk:Admin\|talk]]) 17:36, 5 December 2015 (EST))		* Agreed on the rename in accordance with the convention. ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] ([[User talk:Admin\|talk]]) 17:36, 5 December 2015 (EST))
	** Sounds good to me. "Body insertion" always struck me as a little weird anyway. --[[User:Radicell\|Radicell]] ([[User talk:Radicell\|talk]]) 18:21, 5 December 2015 (EST)		** Sounds good to me. "Body insertion" always struck me as a little weird anyway. --[[User:Radicell\|Radicell]] ([[User talk:Radicell\|talk]]) 18:21, 5 December 2015 (EST)
			* Can we clarify this to "chimeric possession" to differentiate it from "[[Wikipedia:spiritual possession]]" and "[[Wikipedia:demonic possession]]"?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:13, 6 December 2015 (EST)

imported>Radicell: /* Possession */

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	So we have several different characters who refer to it as possession, including Esposito, as well as the narrative of the book itself. The name "possession" has been [[#Name Proposal: Complete Possession\|suggested before]]. It's better than the descriptive name, and it's semi-canonical. I guess the only other question is "any opposed?" :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 16:45, 5 December 2015 (EST)		So we have several different characters who refer to it as possession, including Esposito, as well as the narrative of the book itself. The name "possession" has been [[#Name Proposal: Complete Possession\|suggested before]]. It's better than the descriptive name, and it's semi-canonical. I guess the only other question is "any opposed?" :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 16:45, 5 December 2015 (EST)
	* Agreed on the rename in accordance with the convention. ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] ([[User talk:Admin\|talk]]) 17:36, 5 December 2015 (EST))		* Agreed on the rename in accordance with the convention. ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] ([[User talk:Admin\|talk]]) 17:36, 5 December 2015 (EST))
			** Sounds good to me. "Body insertion" always struck me as a little weird anyway. --[[User:Radicell\|Radicell]] ([[User talk:Radicell\|talk]]) 18:21, 5 December 2015 (EST)

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	* The book says that Claire had given up the the approach of "getting shot, being possessed by Esposito, and marching herself back to her cell." (Chapter 17)		* The book says that Claire had given up the the approach of "getting shot, being possessed by Esposito, and marching herself back to her cell." (Chapter 17)
	So we have several different characters who refer to it as possession, including Esposito, as well as the narrative of the book itself. The name "possession" has been [[#Name Proposal: Complete Possession\|suggested before]]. It's better than the descriptive name, and it's semi-canonical. I guess the only other question is "any opposed?" :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 16:45, 5 December 2015 (EST)		So we have several different characters who refer to it as possession, including Esposito, as well as the narrative of the book itself. The name "possession" has been [[#Name Proposal: Complete Possession\|suggested before]]. It's better than the descriptive name, and it's semi-canonical. I guess the only other question is "any opposed?" :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 16:45, 5 December 2015 (EST)
			* Agreed on the rename in accordance with the convention. ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] ([[User talk:Admin\|talk]]) 17:36, 5 December 2015 (EST))

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	** Sounds good to me. "Body insertion" always struck me as a little weird anyway. --[[User:Radicell\|Radicell]] ([[User talk:Radicell\|talk]]) 18:21, 5 December 2015 (EST)		** Sounds good to me. "Body insertion" always struck me as a little weird anyway. --[[User:Radicell\|Radicell]] ([[User talk:Radicell\|talk]]) 18:21, 5 December 2015 (EST)
	* Can we clarify this to "chimeric possession" to differentiate it from "[[Wikipedia:spiritual possession\|spiritual possession]]" and "[[Wikipedia:demonic possession\|demonic possession]]"?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:13, 6 December 2015 (EST)		* Can we clarify this to "chimeric possession" to differentiate it from "[[Wikipedia:spiritual possession\|spiritual possession]]" and "[[Wikipedia:demonic possession\|demonic possession]]"?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:13, 6 December 2015 (EST)
	* I'm not opposed to just calling it "possession". It's just that "possession" by itself isn't my preference for the ability name (in 2008, I [[Talk:Body insertion#Phasing?\|theorized]] that it was atomic chimerism--combining two people atomically instead of genetically). At least there wasn't confirmation that it's phasing... "[[Wiktionary:Chimeric\|Chimeric]] possession" has been proposed for use on the forum of the free/open-source RPG (Tales of Maj’Eyal) to mean possessing up to two creatures at once. I haven't been using that forum or RPG, but the term turned up there when I was searching for online uses of it. Harold's ability works on people--we don't know if it could work on one or more creatures as the forum thread was discussing, or even more than one person.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 17:51, 6 December 2015 (EST)		* I'm not opposed to just calling it "possession". It's just that "possession" by itself isn't my preference for the ability name (in 2008, I [[Talk:Body insertion#Phasing?\|theorized]] that it was atomic chimerism--combining two people atomically instead of genetically). At least there wasn't confirmation that it's phasing... "[[Wiktionary:Chimeric\|Chimeric]] possession" has been proposed for use on the forum of the free/open-source RPG (Tales of Maj’Eyal) to mean possessing up to two creatures at once. I haven't been using that forum or RPG, but the term turned up there when I was searching for online uses of it. Harold's ability works on people--we don't know if it could work on one or more creatures simultaneously as the forum thread was discussing, or even more than one person simultaneously.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 17:51, 6 December 2015 (EST)

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	** Sounds good to me. "Body insertion" always struck me as a little weird anyway. --[[User:Radicell\|Radicell]] ([[User talk:Radicell\|talk]]) 18:21, 5 December 2015 (EST)		** Sounds good to me. "Body insertion" always struck me as a little weird anyway. --[[User:Radicell\|Radicell]] ([[User talk:Radicell\|talk]]) 18:21, 5 December 2015 (EST)
	* Can we clarify this to "chimeric possession" to differentiate it from "[[Wikipedia:spiritual possession\|spiritual possession]]" and "[[Wikipedia:demonic possession\|demonic possession]]"?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:13, 6 December 2015 (EST)		* Can we clarify this to "chimeric possession" to differentiate it from "[[Wikipedia:spiritual possession\|spiritual possession]]" and "[[Wikipedia:demonic possession\|demonic possession]]"?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:13, 6 December 2015 (EST)
			* I'm not opposed to just calling it "possession". It's just that "possession" by itself isn't my preference for the ability name (in 2008, I [[Talk:Body insertion#Phasing?\|theorized]] that it was atomic chimerism--combining two people atomically instead of genetically). At least there wasn't confirmation that it's phasing... "[[Wiktionary:Chimeric\|Chimeric]] possession" has been proposed for use on the forum of the free/open-source RPG (Tales of Maj’Eyal) to mean possessing up to two creatures at once. I haven't been using that forum or RPG, but the term turned up there when I was searching for online uses of it. Harold's ability works on people--we don't know if it could work on one or more creatures as the forum thread was discussing, or even more than one person.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 17:51, 6 December 2015 (EST)

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	* Agreed on the rename in accordance with the convention. ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] ([[User talk:Admin\|talk]]) 17:36, 5 December 2015 (EST))		* Agreed on the rename in accordance with the convention. ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] ([[User talk:Admin\|talk]]) 17:36, 5 December 2015 (EST))
	** Sounds good to me. "Body insertion" always struck me as a little weird anyway. --[[User:Radicell\|Radicell]] ([[User talk:Radicell\|talk]]) 18:21, 5 December 2015 (EST)		** Sounds good to me. "Body insertion" always struck me as a little weird anyway. --[[User:Radicell\|Radicell]] ([[User talk:Radicell\|talk]]) 18:21, 5 December 2015 (EST)
	* Can we clarify this to "chimeric possession" to differentiate it from "[[Wikipedia:spiritual possession]]" and "[[Wikipedia:demonic possession]]"?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:13, 6 December 2015 (EST)		* Can we clarify this to "chimeric possession" to differentiate it from "[[Wikipedia:spiritual possession\|spiritual possession]]" and "[[Wikipedia:demonic possession\|demonic possession]]"?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:13, 6 December 2015 (EST)

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	* Agreed on the rename in accordance with the convention. ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] ([[User talk:Admin\|talk]]) 17:36, 5 December 2015 (EST))		* Agreed on the rename in accordance with the convention. ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] ([[User talk:Admin\|talk]]) 17:36, 5 December 2015 (EST))
	** Sounds good to me. "Body insertion" always struck me as a little weird anyway. --[[User:Radicell\|Radicell]] ([[User talk:Radicell\|talk]]) 18:21, 5 December 2015 (EST)		** Sounds good to me. "Body insertion" always struck me as a little weird anyway. --[[User:Radicell\|Radicell]] ([[User talk:Radicell\|talk]]) 18:21, 5 December 2015 (EST)
			* Can we clarify this to "chimeric possession" to differentiate it from "[[Wikipedia:spiritual possession]]" and "[[Wikipedia:demonic possession]]"?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 14:13, 6 December 2015 (EST)

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	So we have several different characters who refer to it as possession, including Esposito, as well as the narrative of the book itself. The name "possession" has been [[#Name Proposal: Complete Possession\|suggested before]]. It's better than the descriptive name, and it's semi-canonical. I guess the only other question is "any opposed?" :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 16:45, 5 December 2015 (EST)		So we have several different characters who refer to it as possession, including Esposito, as well as the narrative of the book itself. The name "possession" has been [[#Name Proposal: Complete Possession\|suggested before]]. It's better than the descriptive name, and it's semi-canonical. I guess the only other question is "any opposed?" :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 16:45, 5 December 2015 (EST)
	* Agreed on the rename in accordance with the convention. ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] ([[User talk:Admin\|talk]]) 17:36, 5 December 2015 (EST))		* Agreed on the rename in accordance with the convention. ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] ([[User talk:Admin\|talk]]) 17:36, 5 December 2015 (EST))
			** Sounds good to me. "Body insertion" always struck me as a little weird anyway. --[[User:Radicell\|Radicell]] ([[User talk:Radicell\|talk]]) 18:21, 5 December 2015 (EST)