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imported>Orne: and removing last ref

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and removing last ref

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imported>Orne: and removing last ref

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and removing last ref

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	This seems like it'd be a little easier to modify and maintain. Other than that, it ''looks'' the same as [[Prophecy/test]], right? I say go for it this way - I don't see any disadvantages. (But then again, I'm nearsighted). - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|talk]]) 15:40, 13 December 2006 (EST)		This seems like it'd be a little easier to modify and maintain. Other than that, it ''looks'' the same as '''Prophecy/test''', right? I say go for it this way - I don't see any disadvantages. (But then again, I'm nearsighted). - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|talk]]) 15:40, 13 December 2006 (EST)
	* It's finished now. As an added bonus, we can bring the formatting back without it looking too gridlike, and we can still further subdivide either or both columns by episode if we want.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:07, 13 December 2006 (EST)		* It's finished now. As an added bonus, we can bring the formatting back without it looking too gridlike, and we can still further subdivide either or both columns by episode if we want.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:07, 13 December 2006 (EST)
	* The only real problem is that the alignment will break if the captions are too long or the user's font size is too large. We can overcome this by forcing a pixel (rather than an em) value for the caption height and hiding the overflow, but that seems even worse.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:30, 13 December 2006 (EST)		* The only real problem is that the alignment will break if the captions are too long or the user's font size is too large. We can overcome this by forcing a pixel (rather than an em) value for the caption height and hiding the overflow, but that seems even worse.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:30, 13 December 2006 (EST)

imported>Ryangibsonstewart at 03:07, 25 January 2007

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	*Why do we have 3 articles about the same thing? [[User:Heroe\|Heroe]] 19:29, 24 January 2007 (EST)		*Why do we have 3 articles about the same thing? [[User:Heroe\|Heroe]] 19:29, 24 January 2007 (EST)
			:: We actually have 4. [[Prophecy]] is the main article. Test1, 2, and 3 are all different versions that we made in order to try some different formatting. You'll notice they all have slightly different layouts. Making test pages is the best way to try something without ruining the original page. - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|talk]]) 22:07, 24 January 2007 (EST)

imported>Heroe at 00:29, 25 January 2007

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	*** Actually, the problem is that the caption height ''doesn't'' stay the same no matter how hard I try to force a height value on it. There's no way to guarantee that the rows in the two tables will be the same height in different browsers, screen resolutions, or text sizes. (Go to the page and hit CTRL+Plus Sign a couple times, and you'll see what I mean). It won't obey either <tt>overflow: scroll</tt> or <tt>overflow: hide</tt>, and if the caption is longer than what fits in the declared height, it just adds extra height. Awful, awful, awful.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 17:07, 13 December 2006 (EST)		*** Actually, the problem is that the caption height ''doesn't'' stay the same no matter how hard I try to force a height value on it. There's no way to guarantee that the rows in the two tables will be the same height in different browsers, screen resolutions, or text sizes. (Go to the page and hit CTRL+Plus Sign a couple times, and you'll see what I mean). It won't obey either <tt>overflow: scroll</tt> or <tt>overflow: hide</tt>, and if the caption is longer than what fits in the declared height, it just adds extra height. Awful, awful, awful.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 17:07, 13 December 2006 (EST)
	*** ''Maybe'' if I float the comics column all the way to the right it won't bug me so much that the rows might not match up. ''Maybe''. Curse you, MediaWiki!--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 17:13, 13 December 2006 (EST)		*** ''Maybe'' if I float the comics column all the way to the right it won't bug me so much that the rows might not match up. ''Maybe''. Curse you, MediaWiki!--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 17:13, 13 December 2006 (EST)

			*Why do we have 3 articles about the same thing? [[User:Heroe\|Heroe]] 19:29, 24 January 2007 (EST)

imported>Hardvice at 22:13, 13 December 2006

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	** I don't think too many people will be fussing with the captions (nor do they need to be the same length anymore ... I think we should leave it as is. And if a person knows how to change their font size in their prefs, I think they'll be alright for not having every word. Maybe that's exclusionist, but I don't think it's such a big deal that we need to change anything ... I have to say, this page looks amazing - and it gets better each time. Thanks for all your work on it - those kinks did not look easy to iron out ... - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|talk]]) 16:34, 13 December 2006 (EST)		** I don't think too many people will be fussing with the captions (nor do they need to be the same length anymore ... I think we should leave it as is. And if a person knows how to change their font size in their prefs, I think they'll be alright for not having every word. Maybe that's exclusionist, but I don't think it's such a big deal that we need to change anything ... I have to say, this page looks amazing - and it gets better each time. Thanks for all your work on it - those kinks did not look easy to iron out ... - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|talk]]) 16:34, 13 December 2006 (EST)
	*** Actually, the problem is that the caption height ''doesn't'' stay the same no matter how hard I try to force a height value on it. There's no way to guarantee that the rows in the two tables will be the same height in different browsers, screen resolutions, or text sizes. (Go to the page and hit CTRL+Plus Sign a couple times, and you'll see what I mean). It won't obey either <tt>overflow: scroll</tt> or <tt>overflow: hide</tt>, and if the caption is longer than what fits in the declared height, it just adds extra height. Awful, awful, awful.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 17:07, 13 December 2006 (EST)		*** Actually, the problem is that the caption height ''doesn't'' stay the same no matter how hard I try to force a height value on it. There's no way to guarantee that the rows in the two tables will be the same height in different browsers, screen resolutions, or text sizes. (Go to the page and hit CTRL+Plus Sign a couple times, and you'll see what I mean). It won't obey either <tt>overflow: scroll</tt> or <tt>overflow: hide</tt>, and if the caption is longer than what fits in the declared height, it just adds extra height. Awful, awful, awful.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 17:07, 13 December 2006 (EST)
			*** ''Maybe'' if I float the comics column all the way to the right it won't bug me so much that the rows might not match up. ''Maybe''. Curse you, MediaWiki!--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 17:13, 13 December 2006 (EST)

imported>Hardvice at 22:07, 13 December 2006

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	* The only real problem is that the alignment will break if the captions are too long or the user's font size is too large. We can overcome this by forcing a pixel (rather than an em) value for the caption height and hiding the overflow, but that seems even worse.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:30, 13 December 2006 (EST)		* The only real problem is that the alignment will break if the captions are too long or the user's font size is too large. We can overcome this by forcing a pixel (rather than an em) value for the caption height and hiding the overflow, but that seems even worse.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:30, 13 December 2006 (EST)
	** I don't think too many people will be fussing with the captions (nor do they need to be the same length anymore ... I think we should leave it as is. And if a person knows how to change their font size in their prefs, I think they'll be alright for not having every word. Maybe that's exclusionist, but I don't think it's such a big deal that we need to change anything ... I have to say, this page looks amazing - and it gets better each time. Thanks for all your work on it - those kinks did not look easy to iron out ... - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|talk]]) 16:34, 13 December 2006 (EST)		** I don't think too many people will be fussing with the captions (nor do they need to be the same length anymore ... I think we should leave it as is. And if a person knows how to change their font size in their prefs, I think they'll be alright for not having every word. Maybe that's exclusionist, but I don't think it's such a big deal that we need to change anything ... I have to say, this page looks amazing - and it gets better each time. Thanks for all your work on it - those kinks did not look easy to iron out ... - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|talk]]) 16:34, 13 December 2006 (EST)
			*** Actually, the problem is that the caption height ''doesn't'' stay the same no matter how hard I try to force a height value on it. There's no way to guarantee that the rows in the two tables will be the same height in different browsers, screen resolutions, or text sizes. (Go to the page and hit CTRL+Plus Sign a couple times, and you'll see what I mean). It won't obey either <tt>overflow: scroll</tt> or <tt>overflow: hide</tt>, and if the caption is longer than what fits in the declared height, it just adds extra height. Awful, awful, awful.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 17:07, 13 December 2006 (EST)

imported>Ryangibsonstewart: my vote: leave it - caption height is fine as is

2006-12-13T21:34:28Z

my vote: leave it - caption height is fine as is

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	* It's finished now. As an added bonus, we can bring the formatting back without it looking too gridlike, and we can still further subdivide either or both columns by episode if we want.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:07, 13 December 2006 (EST)		* It's finished now. As an added bonus, we can bring the formatting back without it looking too gridlike, and we can still further subdivide either or both columns by episode if we want.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:07, 13 December 2006 (EST)
	* The only real problem is that the alignment will break if the captions are too long or the user's font size is too large. We can overcome this by forcing a pixel (rather than an em) value for the caption height and hiding the overflow, but that seems even worse.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:30, 13 December 2006 (EST)		* The only real problem is that the alignment will break if the captions are too long or the user's font size is too large. We can overcome this by forcing a pixel (rather than an em) value for the caption height and hiding the overflow, but that seems even worse.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:30, 13 December 2006 (EST)
			** I don't think too many people will be fussing with the captions (nor do they need to be the same length anymore ... I think we should leave it as is. And if a person knows how to change their font size in their prefs, I think they'll be alright for not having every word. Maybe that's exclusionist, but I don't think it's such a big deal that we need to change anything ... I have to say, this page looks amazing - and it gets better each time. Thanks for all your work on it - those kinks did not look easy to iron out ... - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|talk]]) 16:34, 13 December 2006 (EST)

imported>Hardvice at 21:30, 13 December 2006

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	This seems like it'd be a little easier to modify and maintain. Other than that, it ''looks'' the same as [[Prophecy/test]], right? I say go for it this way - I don't see any disadvantages. (But then again, I'm nearsighted). - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|talk]]) 15:40, 13 December 2006 (EST)		This seems like it'd be a little easier to modify and maintain. Other than that, it ''looks'' the same as [[Prophecy/test]], right? I say go for it this way - I don't see any disadvantages. (But then again, I'm nearsighted). - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|talk]]) 15:40, 13 December 2006 (EST)
	* It's finished now. As an added bonus, we can bring the formatting back without it looking too gridlike, and we can still further subdivide either or both columns by episode if we want.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:07, 13 December 2006 (EST)		* It's finished now. As an added bonus, we can bring the formatting back without it looking too gridlike, and we can still further subdivide either or both columns by episode if we want.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:07, 13 December 2006 (EST)
			* The only real problem is that the alignment will break if the captions are too long or the user's font size is too large. We can overcome this by forcing a pixel (rather than an em) value for the caption height and hiding the overflow, but that seems even worse.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:30, 13 December 2006 (EST)

imported>Hardvice at 21:07, 13 December 2006

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	This seems like it'd be a little easier to modify and maintain. Other than that, it ''looks'' the same as [[Prophecy/test]], right? I say go for it this way - I don't see any disadvantages. (But then again, I'm nearsighted). - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|talk]]) 15:40, 13 December 2006 (EST)		This seems like it'd be a little easier to modify and maintain. Other than that, it ''looks'' the same as [[Prophecy/test]], right? I say go for it this way - I don't see any disadvantages. (But then again, I'm nearsighted). - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|talk]]) 15:40, 13 December 2006 (EST)
			* It's finished now. As an added bonus, we can bring the formatting back without it looking too gridlike, and we can still further subdivide either or both columns by episode if we want.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:07, 13 December 2006 (EST)

imported>Ryangibsonstewart at 20:40, 13 December 2006

2006-12-13T20:40:17Z

New page

This seems like it'd be a little easier to modify and maintain. Other than that, it ''looks'' the same as [[Prophecy/test]], right? I say go for it this way - I don't see any disadvantages. (But then again, I'm nearsighted). - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 15:40, 13 December 2006 (EST)

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	*** Actually, the problem is that the caption height ''doesn't'' stay the same no matter how hard I try to force a height value on it. There's no way to guarantee that the rows in the two tables will be the same height in different browsers, screen resolutions, or text sizes. (Go to the page and hit CTRL+Plus Sign a couple times, and you'll see what I mean). It won't obey either <tt>overflow: scroll</tt> or <tt>overflow: hide</tt>, and if the caption is longer than what fits in the declared height, it just adds extra height. Awful, awful, awful.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 17:07, 13 December 2006 (EST)		*** Actually, the problem is that the caption height ''doesn't'' stay the same no matter how hard I try to force a height value on it. There's no way to guarantee that the rows in the two tables will be the same height in different browsers, screen resolutions, or text sizes. (Go to the page and hit CTRL+Plus Sign a couple times, and you'll see what I mean). It won't obey either <tt>overflow: scroll</tt> or <tt>overflow: hide</tt>, and if the caption is longer than what fits in the declared height, it just adds extra height. Awful, awful, awful.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 17:07, 13 December 2006 (EST)
	*** ''Maybe'' if I float the comics column all the way to the right it won't bug me so much that the rows might not match up. ''Maybe''. Curse you, MediaWiki!--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 17:13, 13 December 2006 (EST)		*** ''Maybe'' if I float the comics column all the way to the right it won't bug me so much that the rows might not match up. ''Maybe''. Curse you, MediaWiki!--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 17:13, 13 December 2006 (EST)

			*Why do we have 3 articles about the same thing? [[User:Heroe\|Heroe]] 19:29, 24 January 2007 (EST)

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	** I don't think too many people will be fussing with the captions (nor do they need to be the same length anymore ... I think we should leave it as is. And if a person knows how to change their font size in their prefs, I think they'll be alright for not having every word. Maybe that's exclusionist, but I don't think it's such a big deal that we need to change anything ... I have to say, this page looks amazing - and it gets better each time. Thanks for all your work on it - those kinks did not look easy to iron out ... - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|talk]]) 16:34, 13 December 2006 (EST)		** I don't think too many people will be fussing with the captions (nor do they need to be the same length anymore ... I think we should leave it as is. And if a person knows how to change their font size in their prefs, I think they'll be alright for not having every word. Maybe that's exclusionist, but I don't think it's such a big deal that we need to change anything ... I have to say, this page looks amazing - and it gets better each time. Thanks for all your work on it - those kinks did not look easy to iron out ... - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|talk]]) 16:34, 13 December 2006 (EST)
	*** Actually, the problem is that the caption height ''doesn't'' stay the same no matter how hard I try to force a height value on it. There's no way to guarantee that the rows in the two tables will be the same height in different browsers, screen resolutions, or text sizes. (Go to the page and hit CTRL+Plus Sign a couple times, and you'll see what I mean). It won't obey either <tt>overflow: scroll</tt> or <tt>overflow: hide</tt>, and if the caption is longer than what fits in the declared height, it just adds extra height. Awful, awful, awful.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 17:07, 13 December 2006 (EST)		*** Actually, the problem is that the caption height ''doesn't'' stay the same no matter how hard I try to force a height value on it. There's no way to guarantee that the rows in the two tables will be the same height in different browsers, screen resolutions, or text sizes. (Go to the page and hit CTRL+Plus Sign a couple times, and you'll see what I mean). It won't obey either <tt>overflow: scroll</tt> or <tt>overflow: hide</tt>, and if the caption is longer than what fits in the declared height, it just adds extra height. Awful, awful, awful.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 17:07, 13 December 2006 (EST)
			*** ''Maybe'' if I float the comics column all the way to the right it won't bug me so much that the rows might not match up. ''Maybe''. Curse you, MediaWiki!--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 17:13, 13 December 2006 (EST)

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	* The only real problem is that the alignment will break if the captions are too long or the user's font size is too large. We can overcome this by forcing a pixel (rather than an em) value for the caption height and hiding the overflow, but that seems even worse.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:30, 13 December 2006 (EST)		* The only real problem is that the alignment will break if the captions are too long or the user's font size is too large. We can overcome this by forcing a pixel (rather than an em) value for the caption height and hiding the overflow, but that seems even worse.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:30, 13 December 2006 (EST)
	** I don't think too many people will be fussing with the captions (nor do they need to be the same length anymore ... I think we should leave it as is. And if a person knows how to change their font size in their prefs, I think they'll be alright for not having every word. Maybe that's exclusionist, but I don't think it's such a big deal that we need to change anything ... I have to say, this page looks amazing - and it gets better each time. Thanks for all your work on it - those kinks did not look easy to iron out ... - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|talk]]) 16:34, 13 December 2006 (EST)		** I don't think too many people will be fussing with the captions (nor do they need to be the same length anymore ... I think we should leave it as is. And if a person knows how to change their font size in their prefs, I think they'll be alright for not having every word. Maybe that's exclusionist, but I don't think it's such a big deal that we need to change anything ... I have to say, this page looks amazing - and it gets better each time. Thanks for all your work on it - those kinks did not look easy to iron out ... - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|talk]]) 16:34, 13 December 2006 (EST)
			*** Actually, the problem is that the caption height ''doesn't'' stay the same no matter how hard I try to force a height value on it. There's no way to guarantee that the rows in the two tables will be the same height in different browsers, screen resolutions, or text sizes. (Go to the page and hit CTRL+Plus Sign a couple times, and you'll see what I mean). It won't obey either <tt>overflow: scroll</tt> or <tt>overflow: hide</tt>, and if the caption is longer than what fits in the declared height, it just adds extra height. Awful, awful, awful.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 17:07, 13 December 2006 (EST)

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	* It's finished now. As an added bonus, we can bring the formatting back without it looking too gridlike, and we can still further subdivide either or both columns by episode if we want.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:07, 13 December 2006 (EST)		* It's finished now. As an added bonus, we can bring the formatting back without it looking too gridlike, and we can still further subdivide either or both columns by episode if we want.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:07, 13 December 2006 (EST)
	* The only real problem is that the alignment will break if the captions are too long or the user's font size is too large. We can overcome this by forcing a pixel (rather than an em) value for the caption height and hiding the overflow, but that seems even worse.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:30, 13 December 2006 (EST)		* The only real problem is that the alignment will break if the captions are too long or the user's font size is too large. We can overcome this by forcing a pixel (rather than an em) value for the caption height and hiding the overflow, but that seems even worse.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:30, 13 December 2006 (EST)
			** I don't think too many people will be fussing with the captions (nor do they need to be the same length anymore ... I think we should leave it as is. And if a person knows how to change their font size in their prefs, I think they'll be alright for not having every word. Maybe that's exclusionist, but I don't think it's such a big deal that we need to change anything ... I have to say, this page looks amazing - and it gets better each time. Thanks for all your work on it - those kinks did not look easy to iron out ... - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|talk]]) 16:34, 13 December 2006 (EST)