Talk:Richard Drucker - Revision history

imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* Drucker's death */

2008-01-31T05:03:42Z

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imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* Drucker's death */

2008-01-31T05:03:42Z

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	**** The [[Help:Sources]] page says that if two non-canon sources conflict each other, we add a note on the page. Even if they aren't conflicting (which is a matter of personal interpretation) I think we should mention it in the notes at least. I'll give it a try, feel free to edit or remove. --[[User:Yamawhata?\|Yamawhata?]] 23:14, 30 January 2008 (EST)		**** The [[Help:Sources]] page says that if two non-canon sources conflict each other, we add a note on the page. Even if they aren't conflicting (which is a matter of personal interpretation) I think we should mention it in the notes at least. I'll give it a try, feel free to edit or remove. --[[User:Yamawhata?\|Yamawhata?]] 23:14, 30 January 2008 (EST)
	***** Thank you RGS for fixing it up, perspective isn't my strong point ;) --[[User:Yamawhata?\|Yamawhata?]] 23:14, 30 January 2008 (EST)		***** Thank you RGS for fixing it up, perspective isn't my strong point ;) --[[User:Yamawhata?\|Yamawhata?]] 23:14, 30 January 2008 (EST)
			****** No problemo. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 00:03, 31 January 2008 (EST)

imported>Yamawhata?: /* Drucker's death */ THNX + sig

2008-01-31T04:14:15Z

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	** As for "Goose" being the man Trav found. Why would Goose tell us that they lived for 15 years placing the novel in 2007, if indeed Drucker died from the plane crash in 1992. The logic doesn't make sense. Goose has every reason to lie to Bob, but why would Goose lie to the readers of the graphic novel? --[[User:Dman dustin\|Dman dustin]] 02:25, 30 January 2008 (EST)		** As for "Goose" being the man Trav found. Why would Goose tell us that they lived for 15 years placing the novel in 2007, if indeed Drucker died from the plane crash in 1992. The logic doesn't make sense. Goose has every reason to lie to Bob, but why would Goose lie to the readers of the graphic novel? --[[User:Dman dustin\|Dman dustin]] 02:25, 30 January 2008 (EST)
	*** Hana had Traveler send a message to Drucker, but she didn't know if he was alive or dead. Traveler doesn't find Drucker, he finds Goose. The whole point of ''The Last Shangri-La'' really ''is'' kind of pointless, except to entertain an audience and "trick" them into thinking that they're one step closer to discovering who Drucker is. Besides, the point of that novel really was more about the ''search'' for Drucker'' than about Drucker himself--I mean, the guy with long hair doesn't show up until the very last page, and the entire novel is really about Traveler, Traveler's power, and Traveler's travels. The story only brushes up against Drucker. As for setting [[1992]] as Drucker's death date, that comes from [[NBC]]'s page about Drucker, which says he dies in the plane crash. A careful read of ''The Golden Goose'' confirms that. It's really quite convoluted, and I don't think it's very clear in the novels, but we go with the information we're given. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 06:29, 30 January 2008 (EST)		*** Hana had Traveler send a message to Drucker, but she didn't know if he was alive or dead. Traveler doesn't find Drucker, he finds Goose. The whole point of ''The Last Shangri-La'' really ''is'' kind of pointless, except to entertain an audience and "trick" them into thinking that they're one step closer to discovering who Drucker is. Besides, the point of that novel really was more about the ''search'' for Drucker'' than about Drucker himself--I mean, the guy with long hair doesn't show up until the very last page, and the entire novel is really about Traveler, Traveler's power, and Traveler's travels. The story only brushes up against Drucker. As for setting [[1992]] as Drucker's death date, that comes from [[NBC]]'s page about Drucker, which says he dies in the plane crash. A careful read of ''The Golden Goose'' confirms that. It's really quite convoluted, and I don't think it's very clear in the novels, but we go with the information we're given. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 06:29, 30 January 2008 (EST)
	**** The [[Help:Sources]] page says that if two non-canon sources conflict each other, we add a note on the page. Even if they aren't conflicting (which is a matter of personal interpretation) I think we should mention it in the notes at least. I'll give it a try, feel free to edit or remove.		**** The [[Help:Sources]] page says that if two non-canon sources conflict each other, we add a note on the page. Even if they aren't conflicting (which is a matter of personal interpretation) I think we should mention it in the notes at least. I'll give it a try, feel free to edit or remove. --[[User:Yamawhata?\|Yamawhata?]] 23:14, 30 January 2008 (EST)
			***** Thank you RGS for fixing it up, perspective isn't my strong point ;) --[[User:Yamawhata?\|Yamawhata?]] 23:14, 30 January 2008 (EST)

imported>Yamawhata?: /* Drucker's death */

2008-01-30T21:51:42Z

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	** As for "Goose" being the man Trav found. Why would Goose tell us that they lived for 15 years placing the novel in 2007, if indeed Drucker died from the plane crash in 1992. The logic doesn't make sense. Goose has every reason to lie to Bob, but why would Goose lie to the readers of the graphic novel? --[[User:Dman dustin\|Dman dustin]] 02:25, 30 January 2008 (EST)		** As for "Goose" being the man Trav found. Why would Goose tell us that they lived for 15 years placing the novel in 2007, if indeed Drucker died from the plane crash in 1992. The logic doesn't make sense. Goose has every reason to lie to Bob, but why would Goose lie to the readers of the graphic novel? --[[User:Dman dustin\|Dman dustin]] 02:25, 30 January 2008 (EST)
	*** Hana had Traveler send a message to Drucker, but she didn't know if he was alive or dead. Traveler doesn't find Drucker, he finds Goose. The whole point of ''The Last Shangri-La'' really ''is'' kind of pointless, except to entertain an audience and "trick" them into thinking that they're one step closer to discovering who Drucker is. Besides, the point of that novel really was more about the ''search'' for Drucker'' than about Drucker himself--I mean, the guy with long hair doesn't show up until the very last page, and the entire novel is really about Traveler, Traveler's power, and Traveler's travels. The story only brushes up against Drucker. As for setting [[1992]] as Drucker's death date, that comes from [[NBC]]'s page about Drucker, which says he dies in the plane crash. A careful read of ''The Golden Goose'' confirms that. It's really quite convoluted, and I don't think it's very clear in the novels, but we go with the information we're given. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 06:29, 30 January 2008 (EST)		*** Hana had Traveler send a message to Drucker, but she didn't know if he was alive or dead. Traveler doesn't find Drucker, he finds Goose. The whole point of ''The Last Shangri-La'' really ''is'' kind of pointless, except to entertain an audience and "trick" them into thinking that they're one step closer to discovering who Drucker is. Besides, the point of that novel really was more about the ''search'' for Drucker'' than about Drucker himself--I mean, the guy with long hair doesn't show up until the very last page, and the entire novel is really about Traveler, Traveler's power, and Traveler's travels. The story only brushes up against Drucker. As for setting [[1992]] as Drucker's death date, that comes from [[NBC]]'s page about Drucker, which says he dies in the plane crash. A careful read of ''The Golden Goose'' confirms that. It's really quite convoluted, and I don't think it's very clear in the novels, but we go with the information we're given. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 06:29, 30 January 2008 (EST)
			**** The [[Help:Sources]] page says that if two non-canon sources conflict each other, we add a note on the page. Even if they aren't conflicting (which is a matter of personal interpretation) I think we should mention it in the notes at least. I'll give it a try, feel free to edit or remove.

imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* Drucker's death */

2008-01-30T11:29:04Z

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	*Hana died in 2006, she had Trav send a message to a living drucker so his death at 1992, is considerably wrong considering Micah wasn't even born yet and Hana only found about Drucker with the help of micah, that much disproves his death in 1992 unless the guy trav found wasn't Drucker, in which case that whole graphic novel becomes pointless. Furthermore Drucker could've only died at least in 2008 if he is actually dead. Now Hana almost immediately went "online" after her physical death, and according to what I read, Hana and Drucker barely met, and the graphic novel takes place in 2008. So 2007-2008 are far more reliable dates then 1992. --[[User:Dman dustin\|Dman dustin]] 02:04, 30 January 2008 (EST)		*Hana died in 2006, she had Trav send a message to a living drucker so his death at 1992, is considerably wrong considering Micah wasn't even born yet and Hana only found about Drucker with the help of micah, that much disproves his death in 1992 unless the guy trav found wasn't Drucker, in which case that whole graphic novel becomes pointless. Furthermore Drucker could've only died at least in 2008 if he is actually dead. Now Hana almost immediately went "online" after her physical death, and according to what I read, Hana and Drucker barely met, and the graphic novel takes place in 2008. So 2007-2008 are far more reliable dates then 1992. --[[User:Dman dustin\|Dman dustin]] 02:04, 30 January 2008 (EST)
	** As for "Goose" being the man Trav found. Why would Goose tell us that they lived for 15 years placing the novel in 2007, if indeed Drucker died from the plane crash in 1992. The logic doesn't make sense. Goose has every reason to lie to Bob, but why would Goose lie to the readers of the graphic novel? --[[User:Dman dustin\|Dman dustin]] 02:25, 30 January 2008 (EST)		** As for "Goose" being the man Trav found. Why would Goose tell us that they lived for 15 years placing the novel in 2007, if indeed Drucker died from the plane crash in 1992. The logic doesn't make sense. Goose has every reason to lie to Bob, but why would Goose lie to the readers of the graphic novel? --[[User:Dman dustin\|Dman dustin]] 02:25, 30 January 2008 (EST)
			*** Hana had Traveler send a message to Drucker, but she didn't know if he was alive or dead. Traveler doesn't find Drucker, he finds Goose. The whole point of ''The Last Shangri-La'' really ''is'' kind of pointless, except to entertain an audience and "trick" them into thinking that they're one step closer to discovering who Drucker is. Besides, the point of that novel really was more about the ''search'' for Drucker'' than about Drucker himself--I mean, the guy with long hair doesn't show up until the very last page, and the entire novel is really about Traveler, Traveler's power, and Traveler's travels. The story only brushes up against Drucker. As for setting [[1992]] as Drucker's death date, that comes from [[NBC]]'s page about Drucker, which says he dies in the plane crash. A careful read of ''The Golden Goose'' confirms that. It's really quite convoluted, and I don't think it's very clear in the novels, but we go with the information we're given. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 06:29, 30 January 2008 (EST)

imported>Dman dustin: /* Drucker's death */

2008-01-30T07:25:51Z

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	***** That seems about right. --{{User:Ice Vision/sig}} 22:48, 28 January 2008 (EST)		***** That seems about right. --{{User:Ice Vision/sig}} 22:48, 28 January 2008 (EST)
	*Hana died in 2006, she had Trav send a message to a living drucker so his death at 1992, is considerably wrong considering Micah wasn't even born yet and Hana only found about Drucker with the help of micah, that much disproves his death in 1992 unless the guy trav found wasn't Drucker, in which case that whole graphic novel becomes pointless. Furthermore Drucker could've only died at least in 2008 if he is actually dead. Now Hana almost immediately went "online" after her physical death, and according to what I read, Hana and Drucker barely met, and the graphic novel takes place in 2008. So 2007-2008 are far more reliable dates then 1992. --[[User:Dman dustin\|Dman dustin]] 02:04, 30 January 2008 (EST)		*Hana died in 2006, she had Trav send a message to a living drucker so his death at 1992, is considerably wrong considering Micah wasn't even born yet and Hana only found about Drucker with the help of micah, that much disproves his death in 1992 unless the guy trav found wasn't Drucker, in which case that whole graphic novel becomes pointless. Furthermore Drucker could've only died at least in 2008 if he is actually dead. Now Hana almost immediately went "online" after her physical death, and according to what I read, Hana and Drucker barely met, and the graphic novel takes place in 2008. So 2007-2008 are far more reliable dates then 1992. --[[User:Dman dustin\|Dman dustin]] 02:04, 30 January 2008 (EST)
			** As for "Goose" being the man Trav found. Why would Goose tell us that they lived for 15 years placing the novel in 2007, if indeed Drucker died from the plane crash in 1992. The logic doesn't make sense. Goose has every reason to lie to Bob, but why would Goose lie to the readers of the graphic novel? --[[User:Dman dustin\|Dman dustin]] 02:25, 30 January 2008 (EST)

imported>Dman dustin: /* Drucker's death */

2008-01-30T07:04:28Z

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	**** Live is a relative term. Does [[Hana]] still live? If so, why do we have a DOD for her? I think it's reasonable to say that Drucker is dead and his body lives on online like Hana does. This is supported by the way he and Hana appeared together in the most-recent graphic novel.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 21:24, 28 January 2008 (EST)		**** Live is a relative term. Does [[Hana]] still live? If so, why do we have a DOD for her? I think it's reasonable to say that Drucker is dead and his body lives on online like Hana does. This is supported by the way he and Hana appeared together in the most-recent graphic novel.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 21:24, 28 January 2008 (EST)
	***** That seems about right. --{{User:Ice Vision/sig}} 22:48, 28 January 2008 (EST)		***** That seems about right. --{{User:Ice Vision/sig}} 22:48, 28 January 2008 (EST)
			*Hana died in 2006, she had Trav send a message to a living drucker so his death at 1992, is considerably wrong considering Micah wasn't even born yet and Hana only found about Drucker with the help of micah, that much disproves his death in 1992 unless the guy trav found wasn't Drucker, in which case that whole graphic novel becomes pointless. Furthermore Drucker could've only died at least in 2008 if he is actually dead. Now Hana almost immediately went "online" after her physical death, and according to what I read, Hana and Drucker barely met, and the graphic novel takes place in 2008. So 2007-2008 are far more reliable dates then 1992. --[[User:Dman dustin\|Dman dustin]] 02:04, 30 January 2008 (EST)

imported>Ice Vision: /* Drucker's death */

2008-01-29T03:48:37Z

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	***Yeah, I think we're deep in the middle of the mystery, and are waiting for some more crucial pieces to be revealed. It'll be interesting to see where we go with it and to see where we were misled and what clues panned out correctly. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:49, 28 January 2008 (EST)		***Yeah, I think we're deep in the middle of the mystery, and are waiting for some more crucial pieces to be revealed. It'll be interesting to see where we go with it and to see where we were misled and what clues panned out correctly. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:49, 28 January 2008 (EST)
	**** Live is a relative term. Does [[Hana]] still live? If so, why do we have a DOD for her? I think it's reasonable to say that Drucker is dead and his body lives on online like Hana does. This is supported by the way he and Hana appeared together in the most-recent graphic novel.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 21:24, 28 January 2008 (EST)		**** Live is a relative term. Does [[Hana]] still live? If so, why do we have a DOD for her? I think it's reasonable to say that Drucker is dead and his body lives on online like Hana does. This is supported by the way he and Hana appeared together in the most-recent graphic novel.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 21:24, 28 January 2008 (EST)
			***** That seems about right. --{{User:Ice Vision/sig}} 22:48, 28 January 2008 (EST)

imported>MiamiVolts: /* Drucker's death */

2008-01-29T02:24:09Z

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	** I just reread the Golden Goose comic, and Hampton says that he and Drucker lived in Bhutan for 15 years after the crash. This is before Bob comes in, when he's doing his narrating, so I don't think its supposed to be a lie. Under torture, he says Drucker snuck out of the monastary. It's said that men speak true on their deathbed, so I think the comic pretty much spells it out for us that he's still alive. --[[User:Yamawhata?\|Yamawhata?]] 20:26, 28 January 2008 (EST)		** I just reread the Golden Goose comic, and Hampton says that he and Drucker lived in Bhutan for 15 years after the crash. This is before Bob comes in, when he's doing his narrating, so I don't think its supposed to be a lie. Under torture, he says Drucker snuck out of the monastary. It's said that men speak true on their deathbed, so I think the comic pretty much spells it out for us that he's still alive. --[[User:Yamawhata?\|Yamawhata?]] 20:26, 28 January 2008 (EST)
	***Yeah, I think we're deep in the middle of the mystery, and are waiting for some more crucial pieces to be revealed. It'll be interesting to see where we go with it and to see where we were misled and what clues panned out correctly. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:49, 28 January 2008 (EST)		***Yeah, I think we're deep in the middle of the mystery, and are waiting for some more crucial pieces to be revealed. It'll be interesting to see where we go with it and to see where we were misled and what clues panned out correctly. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:49, 28 January 2008 (EST)
			**** Live is a relative term. Does [[Hana]] still live? If so, why do we have a DOD for her? I think it's reasonable to say that Drucker is dead and his body lives on online like Hana does. This is supported by the way he and Hana appeared together in the most-recent graphic novel.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 21:24, 28 January 2008 (EST)

imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* Drucker's death */

2008-01-29T01:49:15Z

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	* I think they've made it official that Drucker is dead, at least as much as we can say Hana is dead. I added my theory about it to his [[Theory:Richard Drucker\|theory page]].--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 19:34, 18 January 2008 (EST)		* I think they've made it official that Drucker is dead, at least as much as we can say Hana is dead. I added my theory about it to his [[Theory:Richard Drucker\|theory page]].--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 19:34, 18 January 2008 (EST)
	** I just reread the Golden Goose comic, and Hampton says that he and Drucker lived in Bhutan for 15 years after the crash. This is before Bob comes in, when he's doing his narrating, so I don't think its supposed to be a lie. Under torture, he says Drucker snuck out of the monastary. It's said that men speak true on their deathbed, so I think the comic pretty much spells it out for us that he's still alive. --[[User:Yamawhata?\|Yamawhata?]] 20:26, 28 January 2008 (EST)		** I just reread the Golden Goose comic, and Hampton says that he and Drucker lived in Bhutan for 15 years after the crash. This is before Bob comes in, when he's doing his narrating, so I don't think its supposed to be a lie. Under torture, he says Drucker snuck out of the monastary. It's said that men speak true on their deathbed, so I think the comic pretty much spells it out for us that he's still alive. --[[User:Yamawhata?\|Yamawhata?]] 20:26, 28 January 2008 (EST)
			***Yeah, I think we're deep in the middle of the mystery, and are waiting for some more crucial pieces to be revealed. It'll be interesting to see where we go with it and to see where we were misled and what clues panned out correctly. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:49, 28 January 2008 (EST)