Talk:Santiago - Revision history

imported>Mebadatbball at 22:12, 26 October 2009

2009-10-26T22:12:51Z

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imported>Mebadatbball at 22:12, 26 October 2009

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	***Thats true. Hopefully that will happen.--{{User:Catalyst/sig}} 22:39, 12 July 2009 (EDT)		***Thats true. Hopefully that will happen.--{{User:Catalyst/sig}} 22:39, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
	****Hopefully. He has a lot of potential. -[[User:Vampirate68\|Vampirate68]] 23:01, 12 July 2009 (EDT)		****Hopefully. He has a lot of potential. -[[User:Vampirate68\|Vampirate68]] 23:01, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
			*****He didn't have ties to the company. when he was approached to join that organization it wasn't the company. this can be seen by him being approached by 2 people with abilities, not the "one of us one of them" philosophy. not to mention they usually bag and tag first, before they have any other contact. -[[User:mebadatbball\|mebadatbball]]

imported>Vampirate68: /* Where did he go? */

2009-07-13T03:01:21Z

Where did he go?

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	**I do think we could see him this season, as they could probably use his help in starting a new company (i.e. he had ties to the old company) -[[User:Vampirate68\|Vampirate68]] 22:34, 12 July 2009 (EDT)		**I do think we could see him this season, as they could probably use his help in starting a new company (i.e. he had ties to the old company) -[[User:Vampirate68\|Vampirate68]] 22:34, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
	***Thats true. Hopefully that will happen.--{{User:Catalyst/sig}} 22:39, 12 July 2009 (EDT)		***Thats true. Hopefully that will happen.--{{User:Catalyst/sig}} 22:39, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
			****Hopefully. He has a lot of potential. -[[User:Vampirate68\|Vampirate68]] 23:01, 12 July 2009 (EDT)

imported>Catalyst: /* Where did he go? */

2009-07-13T02:39:22Z

Where did he go?

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	*I agree, he was a cool character. I hope we see more of him somewhere. I also hope if we do see him, it won't be like Echo's appearance.--{{User:Catalyst/sig}} 21:41, 12 July 2009 (EDT)		*I agree, he was a cool character. I hope we see more of him somewhere. I also hope if we do see him, it won't be like Echo's appearance.--{{User:Catalyst/sig}} 21:41, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
	**I do think we could see him this season, as they could probably use his help in starting a new company (i.e. he had ties to the old company) -[[User:Vampirate68\|Vampirate68]] 22:34, 12 July 2009 (EDT)		**I do think we could see him this season, as they could probably use his help in starting a new company (i.e. he had ties to the old company) -[[User:Vampirate68\|Vampirate68]] 22:34, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
			***Thats true. Hopefully that will happen.--{{User:Catalyst/sig}} 22:39, 12 July 2009 (EDT)

imported>Vampirate68: /* Where did he go? */

2009-07-13T02:34:15Z

Where did he go?

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	So, I know that Santiago was just a webisode character and his series ended, but that doesn't mean his character couldn't show up in a graphic novel or something. His character was just getting good, and then he went off to character limbo...-[[User:Vampirate68\|Vampirate68]] 21:33, 12 July 2009 (EDT)		So, I know that Santiago was just a webisode character and his series ended, but that doesn't mean his character couldn't show up in a graphic novel or something. His character was just getting good, and then he went off to character limbo...-[[User:Vampirate68\|Vampirate68]] 21:33, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
	*I agree, he was a cool character. I hope we see more of him somewhere. I also hope if we do see him, it won't be like Echo's appearance.--{{User:Catalyst/sig}} 21:41, 12 July 2009 (EDT)		*I agree, he was a cool character. I hope we see more of him somewhere. I also hope if we do see him, it won't be like Echo's appearance.--{{User:Catalyst/sig}} 21:41, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
			**I do think we could see him this season, as they could probably use his help in starting a new company (i.e. he had ties to the old company) -[[User:Vampirate68\|Vampirate68]] 22:34, 12 July 2009 (EDT)

imported>Catalyst: /* Where did he go? */

2009-07-13T01:41:04Z

Where did he go?

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	==Where did he go?==		==Where did he go?==
	So, I know that Santiago was just a webisode character and his series ended, but that doesn't mean his character couldn't show up in a graphic novel or something. His character was just getting good, and then he went off to character limbo...-[[User:Vampirate68\|Vampirate68]] 21:33, 12 July 2009 (EDT)		So, I know that Santiago was just a webisode character and his series ended, but that doesn't mean his character couldn't show up in a graphic novel or something. His character was just getting good, and then he went off to character limbo...-[[User:Vampirate68\|Vampirate68]] 21:33, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
			*I agree, he was a cool character. I hope we see more of him somewhere. I also hope if we do see him, it won't be like Echo's appearance.--{{User:Catalyst/sig}} 21:41, 12 July 2009 (EDT)

imported>Vampirate68: /* Where did he go? */

2009-07-13T01:33:49Z

Where did he go?

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	==Where did he go?==		==Where did he go?==
	So, I know that Santiago was just a webisode character and his series ended, but that doesn't mean his character couldn't show up in a ~~webisode~~. His character was just getting good, and then he went off to character limbo...-[[User:Vampirate68\|Vampirate68]] 21:33, 12 July 2009 (EDT)		So, I know that Santiago was just a webisode character and his series ended, but that doesn't mean his character couldn't show up in a graphic novel or something. His character was just getting good, and then he went off to character limbo...-[[User:Vampirate68\|Vampirate68]] 21:33, 12 July 2009 (EDT)

imported>Vampirate68 at 01:33, 13 July 2009

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	*** [[Create Your Hero]], part of the [[Heroes Evolutions]] content, has a profile on Santiago that says, "He has the power of accelerated probability. Not only that but he realizes he can run super fast! Combined, the two abilities make him unstoppable." -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 00:00, 21 December 2008 (EST)		*** [[Create Your Hero]], part of the [[Heroes Evolutions]] content, has a profile on Santiago that says, "He has the power of accelerated probability. Not only that but he realizes he can run super fast! Combined, the two abilities make him unstoppable." -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 00:00, 21 December 2008 (EST)
	**** Still nothing was said about Daphne's ability, "[[super speed]]", other than that Santiago's byproduct is slower than it. - [[User:Josh\|Josh]] ([[User talk:Josh\|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Josh\|contribs]]) 00:07, 21 December 2008 (EST)		**** Still nothing was said about Daphne's ability, "[[super speed]]", other than that Santiago's byproduct is slower than it. - [[User:Josh\|Josh]] ([[User talk:Josh\|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Josh\|contribs]]) 00:07, 21 December 2008 (EST)

			==Where did he go?==
			So, I know that Santiago was just a webisode character and his series ended, but that doesn't mean his character couldn't show up in a webisode. His character was just getting good, and then he went off to character limbo...-[[User:Vampirate68\|Vampirate68]] 21:33, 12 July 2009 (EDT)

imported>Admin: rmv spoilertext template

2009-03-19T15:43:51Z

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	*** Not that I mind, but I thought names weren't being considered spoilers. When did this change?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 11:41, 15 November 2008 (EST)		*** Not that I mind, but I thought names weren't being considered spoilers. When did this change?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 11:41, 15 November 2008 (EST)
	**** Depends on the person. --[[User:Snow Leapord\|Snow Leapord]] 14:03, 15 November 2008 (EST)		**** Depends on the person. --[[User:Snow Leapord\|Snow Leapord]] 14:03, 15 November 2008 (EST)
	***** Right. A person ~~{{spoilertext\|~~presumed dead and coming back to life}} is a pretty big spoiler. Finding out Bob's last name is not. I don't think Iris's name was even said in the webisode, so attaching a name to her is not a big deal. It's really the sourcing that gets me--if Joe and Aron said something like "Santiago really missed his father, Edward," then that's one thing. But linking to a casting call with very spoilery stuff, I just don't think that's a good idea. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 15:33, 15 November 2008 (EST)		***** Right. A person presumed dead and coming back to life is a pretty big spoiler. Finding out Bob's last name is not. I don't think Iris's name was even said in the webisode, so attaching a name to her is not a big deal. It's really the sourcing that gets me--if Joe and Aron said something like "Santiago really missed his father, Edward," then that's one thing. But linking to a casting call with very spoilery stuff, I just don't think that's a good idea. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 15:33, 15 November 2008 (EST)
	****** I hadn't known that spoiler before you posted it (I just blacked it out)... I didn't think the source had to be linked in the mainspace; and that a note that it comes from a spoilery casting call should suffice.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 15:52, 15 November 2008 (EST)		****** I hadn't known that spoiler before you posted it (I just blacked it out)... I didn't think the source had to be linked in the mainspace; and that a note that it comes from a spoilery casting call should suffice.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 15:52, 15 November 2008 (EST)
	******* I sat and looked all over for where the name came from, and I wouldn't want that to happen again to somebody else--if we are taking a name from somewhere, we should put the source. But even still, casting calls have put information that has changed dramatically, including people's names. I'd feel much more comfortable if we just wait to put the name on there. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 16:18, 15 November 2008 (EST)		******* I sat and looked all over for where the name came from, and I wouldn't want that to happen again to somebody else--if we are taking a name from somewhere, we should put the source. But even still, casting calls have put information that has changed dramatically, including people's names. I'd feel much more comfortable if we just wait to put the name on there. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 16:18, 15 November 2008 (EST)

imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* Byproducts and aspects? */

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Byproducts and aspects?

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	* As far as I understand, the only person who has a "byproduct" is Santiago, and that's because it was confirmed in an interview, I guess. Brendan Lewis's assignment tracker lists him as having two abilities, and we've ascribed one to being his main ability and the other to being part of the main ability. That's murky. But just because a person is really strong doesn't mean they have have [[enhanced strength]]--even if it's the classic case of an adrenaline-pumped mother who lifts a car off her child. Just because Daphne traveled through time does not mean she has Hiro's ability. I'm still going off of Noah's quote to Sylar, that with few exceptions, "Everyone else we've met has had only one ability." (''[[Fallout]]'') Unless someone is confirmed to have more than one ability, we should assume that they only have one. If an aspect of somebody's ability resembles another ability, it does not mean they automatically have it. You are absolutely correct, Stevehim, to question this and look for standardization. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 23:02, 20 December 2008 (EST)		* As far as I understand, the only person who has a "byproduct" is Santiago, and that's because it was confirmed in an interview, I guess. Brendan Lewis's assignment tracker lists him as having two abilities, and we've ascribed one to being his main ability and the other to being part of the main ability. That's murky. But just because a person is really strong doesn't mean they have have [[enhanced strength]]--even if it's the classic case of an adrenaline-pumped mother who lifts a car off her child. Just because Daphne traveled through time does not mean she has Hiro's ability. I'm still going off of Noah's quote to Sylar, that with few exceptions, "Everyone else we've met has had only one ability." (''[[Fallout]]'') Unless someone is confirmed to have more than one ability, we should assume that they only have one. If an aspect of somebody's ability resembles another ability, it does not mean they automatically have it. You are absolutely correct, Stevehim, to question this and look for standardization. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 23:02, 20 December 2008 (EST)
	** Just a quick two points. While I agree that it should only be listed in the Notes section, I'm not sure an adrenaline burst from a woman is the same as the aspect of Mohinder's ability. I think we should no longer rely on Noah's words to Sylar. For one thing, they would only apply to evolved humans that the Company had information about, and for another they would only apply to those they had encountered up until that point. The statement isn't applicable to anyone that they encountered after, or not at all. That said, I do agree that we shouldn't be granting them the actual ability, even if it's confirmed as a byproduct (especially since 'byproduct' is specifically different from the ability itself, in that it's a byproduct. ;) --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] 01:23, 21 December 2008 (EST)		** Just a quick two points. While I agree that it should only be listed in the Notes section, I'm not sure an adrenaline burst from a woman is the same as the aspect of Mohinder's ability. I think we should no longer rely on Noah's words to Sylar. For one thing, they would only apply to evolved humans that the Company had information about, and for another they would only apply to those they had encountered up until that point. The statement isn't applicable to anyone that they encountered after, or not at all. That said, I do agree that we shouldn't be granting them the actual ability, even if it's confirmed as a byproduct (especially since 'byproduct' is specifically different from the ability itself, in that it's a byproduct. ;) --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] 01:23, 21 December 2008 (EST)
			*** Very good points. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 15:02, 21 December 2008 (EST)
	** It was confirmed in an interview that Santiago had "speed" as a byproduct of his power. They didn't say it was [[super speed]] or Daphne's ability--quite the contrary, they said it wasn't as fast as Daphne's ability. - [[User:Josh\|Josh]] ([[User talk:Josh\|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Josh\|contribs]]) 23:44, 20 December 2008 (EST)		** It was confirmed in an interview that Santiago had "speed" as a byproduct of his power. They didn't say it was [[super speed]] or Daphne's ability--quite the contrary, they said it wasn't as fast as Daphne's ability. - [[User:Josh\|Josh]] ([[User talk:Josh\|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Josh\|contribs]]) 23:44, 20 December 2008 (EST)
	*** [[Create Your Hero]], part of the [[Heroes Evolutions]] content, has a profile on Santiago that says, "He has the power of accelerated probability. Not only that but he realizes he can run super fast! Combined, the two abilities make him unstoppable." -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 00:00, 21 December 2008 (EST)		*** [[Create Your Hero]], part of the [[Heroes Evolutions]] content, has a profile on Santiago that says, "He has the power of accelerated probability. Not only that but he realizes he can run super fast! Combined, the two abilities make him unstoppable." -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 00:00, 21 December 2008 (EST)