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	* To answer one question, [[Wikipedia:Sexual assault kit\|rape kits]] nowadays are very advanced in detecting whether or not a woman has been raped. As for whether or not Claire was actually raped, that's unconfirmed. We don't know whether Brody stripped Claire, or whether her clothes were shredded while being dragged, if the water currents washed her clothes away, or if something else happened entirely. Brody ''is'' scum, but I just don't seem him as a necrophiliac. I think he rapes more as a matter of circumstance than a matter of perverse fetish and addiction. Though definitely a depraved young man, I don't think he's such a predator that he would rape a girl after he accidentally killed her. That said, there's no way to know for sure. <p>I'd have to go back and watch the episode and read the GN for a specific mention of "almost" or "tried" or another revealing word. But in the end, I think the writers may have purposely left it somewhat ambiguous. This was not a ''Boys Don't Cry''-style rape, it's meant for television where young viewers sometimes watch. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 09:09, 14 February 2007 (EST)		* To answer one question, [[Wikipedia:Sexual assault kit\|rape kits]] nowadays are very advanced in detecting whether or not a woman has been raped. As for whether or not Claire was actually raped, that's unconfirmed. We don't know whether Brody stripped Claire, or whether her clothes were shredded while being dragged, if the water currents washed her clothes away, or if something else happened entirely. Brody ''is'' scum, but I just don't seem him as a necrophiliac. I think he rapes more as a matter of circumstance than a matter of perverse fetish and addiction. Though definitely a depraved young man, I don't think he's such a predator that he would rape a girl after he accidentally killed her. That said, there's no way to know for sure. <p>I'd have to go back and watch the episode and read the GN for a specific mention of "almost" or "tried" or another revealing word. But in the end, I think the writers may have purposely left it somewhat ambiguous. This was not a ''Boys Don't Cry''-style rape, it's meant for television where young viewers sometimes watch. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart\|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 09:09, 14 February 2007 (EST)

	=== Is Knox the rapist? ===		== Is Knox the rapist? ==

	Angela Stated that level 5 contained Rapists. I was wondering if, Knox's ability is strength enhanced via fear,he could use the huge amount of fear the act of rape would create in his victim, to increase his strength. Just my musings on it. Nothing to actually back it up. He is just the only one who could benefit (for want of a better word) from abusing his victims. --[[User:Ronin\|Ronin]] 10:59, 28 September 2008(GMT)		Angela Stated that level 5 contained Rapists. I was wondering if, Knox's ability is strength enhanced via fear,he could use the huge amount of fear the act of rape would create in his victim, to increase his strength. Just my musings on it. Nothing to actually back it up. He is just the only one who could benefit (for want of a better word) from abusing his victims. --[[User:Ronin\|Ronin]] 10:59, 28 September 2008(GMT)

imported>Alessia33: /* Name change to "Sexual assault" */

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Name change to "Sexual assault"

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	Building off of the discussion above, I'd like to suggest that the name of this article be changed to "sexual assault", as I think the current title is too specific. While there are some incidents of near-rape in ''Heroes'', some (including the ones being discussed above) can't be so specifically categorized. Doyle's bit in that graphic novel, for example. We don't know for certain that he was going to rape her as all we see is him forcing her to take off her bra. While it can be ''implied'' that he was going to go all the way, we don't know for certain. If the page was called something a little less specific, we could write something more fitting like "Doyle forces a woman to remove her bra, presumably intending to go further" without making the somewhat speculative claim that he raped her. Thoughts?--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 17:31, 25 June 2010 (EDT)		Building off of the discussion above, I'd like to suggest that the name of this article be changed to "sexual assault", as I think the current title is too specific. While there are some incidents of near-rape in ''Heroes'', some (including the ones being discussed above) can't be so specifically categorized. Doyle's bit in that graphic novel, for example. We don't know for certain that he was going to rape her as all we see is him forcing her to take off her bra. While it can be ''implied'' that he was going to go all the way, we don't know for certain. If the page was called something a little less specific, we could write something more fitting like "Doyle forces a woman to remove her bra, presumably intending to go further" without making the somewhat speculative claim that he raped her. Thoughts?--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 17:31, 25 June 2010 (EDT)

	I would like to switch the Articles name as well because Rape is Forced Sex and there's been more then that on Heroes. Like you said above, we don't know if Doyle went further with it. I think Sexual Assault is the best name.		I would like to switch the Articles name as well because Rape is Forced Sex and there's been more then that on Heroes. Like you said above, we don't know if Doyle went further with it. I think Sexual Assault is the best name. [[User:Alessia33\|Alessia33]] 15:51, 26 June 2010 (EDT)

imported>Alessia33: /* Name change to "Sexual assault" */

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	Building off of the discussion above, I'd like to suggest that the name of this article be changed to "sexual assault", as I think the current title is too specific. While there are some incidents of near-rape in ''Heroes'', some (including the ones being discussed above) can't be so specifically categorized. Doyle's bit in that graphic novel, for example. We don't know for certain that he was going to rape her as all we see is him forcing her to take off her bra. While it can be ''implied'' that he was going to go all the way, we don't know for certain. If the page was called something a little less specific, we could write something more fitting like "Doyle forces a woman to remove her bra, presumably intending to go further" without making the somewhat speculative claim that he raped her. Thoughts?--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 17:31, 25 June 2010 (EDT)		Building off of the discussion above, I'd like to suggest that the name of this article be changed to "sexual assault", as I think the current title is too specific. While there are some incidents of near-rape in ''Heroes'', some (including the ones being discussed above) can't be so specifically categorized. Doyle's bit in that graphic novel, for example. We don't know for certain that he was going to rape her as all we see is him forcing her to take off her bra. While it can be ''implied'' that he was going to go all the way, we don't know for certain. If the page was called something a little less specific, we could write something more fitting like "Doyle forces a woman to remove her bra, presumably intending to go further" without making the somewhat speculative claim that he raped her. Thoughts?--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 17:31, 25 June 2010 (EDT)

			I would like to switch the Articles name as well because Rape is Forced Sex and there's been more then that on Heroes. Like you said above, we don't know if Doyle went further with it. I think Sexual Assault is the best name.

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	*Bipolar much? We were ''just'' talking about it. It wasn't a family kiss; it was a creepy, adult-man-stalking-teenage-girls type kiss (more or less Sylar's personality). --{{User:Boycool42/sig1}} 17:20, 25 June 2010 (EDT)		*Bipolar much? We were ''just'' talking about it. It wasn't a family kiss; it was a creepy, adult-man-stalking-teenage-girls type kiss (more or less Sylar's personality). --{{User:Boycool42/sig1}} 17:20, 25 June 2010 (EDT)
	*I don't think Boycool was trying to piss you off so much as debate the topic with you, which is perfectly acceptable. Let's try to get along. As for the subject matter, I'm on Alessia's side. I ''would'' consider it a sexual assault of sorts when Sylar forcibly kissed Angela (key word being "forcibly") as he was clearly trying to sexual intimidate her, as well as pissing Peter off. I'm all for listing both of those on the page and would like to further promote changing the name of the page to "sexual assault".--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 17:21, 25 June 2010 (EDT)		*I don't think Boycool was trying to piss you off so much as debate the topic with you, which is perfectly acceptable. Let's try to get along. As for the subject matter, I'm on Alessia's side. I ''would'' consider it a sexual assault of sorts when Sylar forcibly kissed Angela (key word being "forcibly") as he was clearly trying to sexual intimidate her, as well as pissing Peter off. I'm all for listing both of those on the page and would like to further promote changing the name of the page to "sexual assault".--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 17:21, 25 June 2010 (EDT)

			== Name change to "Sexual assault" ==

			Building off of the discussion above, I'd like to suggest that the name of this article be changed to "sexual assault", as I think the current title is too specific. While there are some incidents of near-rape in ''Heroes'', some (including the ones being discussed above) can't be so specifically categorized. Doyle's bit in that graphic novel, for example. We don't know for certain that he was going to rape her as all we see is him forcing her to take off her bra. While it can be ''implied'' that he was going to go all the way, we don't know for certain. If the page was called something a little less specific, we could write something more fitting like "Doyle forces a woman to remove her bra, presumably intending to go further" without making the somewhat speculative claim that he raped her. Thoughts?--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 17:31, 25 June 2010 (EDT)

imported>PJDEP: /* Sylar? */

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Sylar?

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	Family Kiss doesn't have to be Blood Related...And where did Angela come from? I'm talking about Sylar and Claire. So why are you just trying to piss me off? 0.o It feels like you are 0.o [[User:Alessia33\|Alessia33]] 17:13, 25 June 2010 (EDT)		Family Kiss doesn't have to be Blood Related...And where did Angela come from? I'm talking about Sylar and Claire. So why are you just trying to piss me off? 0.o It feels like you are 0.o [[User:Alessia33\|Alessia33]] 17:13, 25 June 2010 (EDT)
	*Bipolar much? We were ''just'' talking about it. It wasn't a family kiss; it was a creepy, adult-man-stalking-teenage-girls type kiss (more or less Sylar's personality). --{{User:Boycool42/sig1}} 17:20, 25 June 2010 (EDT)		*Bipolar much? We were ''just'' talking about it. It wasn't a family kiss; it was a creepy, adult-man-stalking-teenage-girls type kiss (more or less Sylar's personality). --{{User:Boycool42/sig1}} 17:20, 25 June 2010 (EDT)
			*I don't think Boycool was trying to piss you off so much as debate the topic with you, which is perfectly acceptable. Let's try to get along. As for the subject matter, I'm on Alessia's side. I ''would'' consider it a sexual assault of sorts when Sylar forcibly kissed Angela (key word being "forcibly") as he was clearly trying to sexual intimidate her, as well as pissing Peter off. I'm all for listing both of those on the page and would like to further promote changing the name of the page to "sexual assault".--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 17:21, 25 June 2010 (EDT)

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Sylar?

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	Family Kiss doesn't have to be Blood Related...And where did Angela come from? I'm talking about Sylar and Claire. So why are you just trying to piss me off? 0.o It feels like you are 0.o [[User:Alessia33\|Alessia33]] 17:13, 25 June 2010 (EDT)		Family Kiss doesn't have to be Blood Related...And where did Angela come from? I'm talking about Sylar and Claire. So why are you just trying to piss me off? 0.o It feels like you are 0.o [[User:Alessia33\|Alessia33]] 17:13, 25 June 2010 (EDT)
			*Bipolar much? We were ''just'' talking about it. It wasn't a family kiss; it was a creepy, adult-man-stalking-teenage-girls type kiss (more or less Sylar's personality). --{{User:Boycool42/sig1}} 17:20, 25 June 2010 (EDT)

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	I don't remember, was he kissing her on the Forehead?Lips?Was he doing it as a Sexual Act? What I'm saying is he Sexually kissed Claire, that would be defined as Sexual Activity because it wasn't a family thing or anything like that. [[User:Alessia33\|Alessia33]] 17:02, 25 June 2010 (EDT)		I don't remember, was he kissing her on the Forehead?Lips?Was he doing it as a Sexual Act? What I'm saying is he Sexually kissed Claire, that would be defined as Sexual Activity because it wasn't a family thing or anything like that. [[User:Alessia33\|Alessia33]] 17:02, 25 June 2010 (EDT)
	*Sylar ''as Sylar'' (not Nathan) force-held Angela in place and kissed her on the ''lips''. Sexual act? --{{User:Boycool42/sig1}} 17:05, 25 June 2010 (EDT)		*Sylar ''as Sylar'' (not Nathan) force-held Angela in place and kissed her on the ''lips''. Sexual act? --{{User:Boycool42/sig1}} 17:05, 25 June 2010 (EDT)

			Family Kiss doesn't have to be Blood Related...And where did Angela come from? I'm talking about Sylar and Claire. So why are you just trying to piss me off? 0.o It feels like you are 0.o [[User:Alessia33\|Alessia33]] 17:13, 25 June 2010 (EDT)

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Sylar?

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	I don't remember, was he kissing her on the Forehead?Lips?Was he doing it as a Sexual Act? What I'm saying is he Sexually kissed Claire, that would be defined as Sexual Activity because it wasn't a family thing or anything like that. [[User:Alessia33\|Alessia33]] 17:02, 25 June 2010 (EDT)		I don't remember, was he kissing her on the Forehead?Lips?Was he doing it as a Sexual Act? What I'm saying is he Sexually kissed Claire, that would be defined as Sexual Activity because it wasn't a family thing or anything like that. [[User:Alessia33\|Alessia33]] 17:02, 25 June 2010 (EDT)
			*Sylar ''as Sylar'' (not Nathan) force-held Angela in place and kissed her on the ''lips''. Sexual act? --{{User:Boycool42/sig1}} 17:05, 25 June 2010 (EDT)