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	* We have a canon source in Edgar's list, and a near-canon source in Noah (an expert in abilities) both calling the ability "spontaneous combustion". We have another near-canon source calling the ability "combustion", which seems like a generalized term of "spontaneous combustion" (or better said, "spontaneous combustion" is a more specific type of "combustion"). Both names describe the ability. There is no conflict of sources as neither source negates the other, thankfully. All are explicit uses of the name ("Amanda's ability is called ____.") However, we can only have one name for the title of this page. Ultimately, this is not a decision to be made based on whether Amanda's ability is "spontaneous" or not--arguments could be made for either side. The deciding factor in the name of this ability is the source. In this type of case, we normally prefer explicit canon sources over explicit near-canon sources (which is really the only reason we ever designated a difference between canon and near-canon sources in the first place). But even if we were to go with frequency of use (which is not the normal way we choose names), "spontaneous combustion" would still be the choice. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 13:49, 28 February 2010 (EST)		* We have a canon source in Edgar's list, and a near-canon source in Noah (an expert in abilities) both calling the ability "spontaneous combustion". We have another near-canon source calling the ability "combustion", which seems like a generalized term of "spontaneous combustion" (or better said, "spontaneous combustion" is a more specific type of "combustion"). Both names describe the ability. There is no conflict of sources as neither source negates the other, thankfully. All are explicit uses of the name ("Amanda's ability is called ____.") However, we can only have one name for the title of this page. Ultimately, this is not a decision to be made based on whether Amanda's ability is "spontaneous" or not--arguments could be made for either side. The deciding factor in the name of this ability is the source. In this type of case, we normally prefer explicit canon sources over explicit near-canon sources (which is really the only reason we ever designated a difference between canon and near-canon sources in the first place). But even if we were to go with frequency of use (which is not the normal way we choose names), "spontaneous combustion" would still be the choice. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 13:49, 28 February 2010 (EST)
	**Personally I don't see how "combustion" is any less explict then Noah's description or Edgar's list, which is a mish-mash of names and descriptions that were most likely taken from our site. Also, Samuel's says "controls the earth" or something but we didn't rename that to "earth control". I'm not trying to refute the decisions, just putting my final thoughts in.--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 18:42, 28 February 2010 (EST)		**Personally I don't see how "combustion" is any less explict then Noah's description or Edgar's list, which is a mish-mash of names and descriptions that were most likely taken from our site. Also, Samuel's says "controls the earth" or something but we didn't rename that to "earth control". I'm not trying to refute the decisions, just putting my final thoughts in.--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 18:42, 28 February 2010 (EST)
			*** It's not any less explicit than Noah's description or Edgar's list. I don't think think I ever said that it was. In fact, I said that all are explicit uses of the name. But we have to choose one name over the other, so we have a rare case of a canon source trumping a near-canon source. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:48, 28 February 2010 (EST)

imported>PJDEP: /* Name Change */ HUGE distinction there....

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	* We have a canon source in Edgar's list, and a near-canon source in Noah (an expert in abilities) both calling the ability "spontaneous combustion". We have another near-canon source calling the ability "combustion", which seems like a generalized term of "spontaneous combustion" (or better said, "spontaneous combustion" is a more specific type of "combustion"). Both names describe the ability. There is no conflict of sources as neither source negates the other, thankfully. All are explicit uses of the name ("Amanda's ability is called ____.") However, we can only have one name for the title of this page. Ultimately, this is not a decision to be made based on whether Amanda's ability is "spontaneous" or not--arguments could be made for either side. The deciding factor in the name of this ability is the source. In this type of case, we normally prefer explicit canon sources over explicit near-canon sources (which is really the only reason we ever designated a difference between canon and near-canon sources in the first place). But even if we were to go with frequency of use (which is not the normal way we choose names), "spontaneous combustion" would still be the choice. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 13:49, 28 February 2010 (EST)		* We have a canon source in Edgar's list, and a near-canon source in Noah (an expert in abilities) both calling the ability "spontaneous combustion". We have another near-canon source calling the ability "combustion", which seems like a generalized term of "spontaneous combustion" (or better said, "spontaneous combustion" is a more specific type of "combustion"). Both names describe the ability. There is no conflict of sources as neither source negates the other, thankfully. All are explicit uses of the name ("Amanda's ability is called ____.") However, we can only have one name for the title of this page. Ultimately, this is not a decision to be made based on whether Amanda's ability is "spontaneous" or not--arguments could be made for either side. The deciding factor in the name of this ability is the source. In this type of case, we normally prefer explicit canon sources over explicit near-canon sources (which is really the only reason we ever designated a difference between canon and near-canon sources in the first place). But even if we were to go with frequency of use (which is not the normal way we choose names), "spontaneous combustion" would still be the choice. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 13:49, 28 February 2010 (EST)
	**Personally I don't see how "combustion" is any less explict then Noah's description or Edgar's list, which is a mish-mash of names and descriptions that were most likely taken from our site. Also, Samuel's says "controls the earth" or something but we didn't rename that to "earth control". I'm trying to refute the decisions, just putting my final thoughts in.--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 18:42, 28 February 2010 (EST)		**Personally I don't see how "combustion" is any less explict then Noah's description or Edgar's list, which is a mish-mash of names and descriptions that were most likely taken from our site. Also, Samuel's says "controls the earth" or something but we didn't rename that to "earth control". I'm not trying to refute the decisions, just putting my final thoughts in.--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 18:42, 28 February 2010 (EST)

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	* We have a canon source in Edgar's list, and a near-canon source in Noah (an expert in abilities) both calling the ability "spontaneous combustion". We have another near-canon source calling the ability "combustion", which seems like a generalized term of "spontaneous combustion" (or better said, "spontaneous combustion" is a more specific type of "combustion"). Both names describe the ability. There is no conflict of sources as neither source negates the other, thankfully. All are explicit uses of the name ("Amanda's ability is called ____.") However, we can only have one name for the title of this page. Ultimately, this is not a decision to be made based on whether Amanda's ability is "spontaneous" or not--arguments could be made for either side. The deciding factor in the name of this ability is the source. In this type of case, we normally prefer explicit canon sources over explicit near-canon sources (which is really the only reason we ever designated a difference between canon and near-canon sources in the first place). But even if we were to go with frequency of use (which is not the normal way we choose names), "spontaneous combustion" would still be the choice. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 13:49, 28 February 2010 (EST)		* We have a canon source in Edgar's list, and a near-canon source in Noah (an expert in abilities) both calling the ability "spontaneous combustion". We have another near-canon source calling the ability "combustion", which seems like a generalized term of "spontaneous combustion" (or better said, "spontaneous combustion" is a more specific type of "combustion"). Both names describe the ability. There is no conflict of sources as neither source negates the other, thankfully. All are explicit uses of the name ("Amanda's ability is called ____.") However, we can only have one name for the title of this page. Ultimately, this is not a decision to be made based on whether Amanda's ability is "spontaneous" or not--arguments could be made for either side. The deciding factor in the name of this ability is the source. In this type of case, we normally prefer explicit canon sources over explicit near-canon sources (which is really the only reason we ever designated a difference between canon and near-canon sources in the first place). But even if we were to go with frequency of use (which is not the normal way we choose names), "spontaneous combustion" would still be the choice. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 13:49, 28 February 2010 (EST)
			**Personally I don't see how "combustion" is any less explict then Noah's description or Edgar's list, which is a mish-mash of names and descriptions that were most likely taken from our site. Also, Samuel's says "controls the earth" or something but we didn't rename that to "earth control". I'm trying to refute the decisions, just putting my final thoughts in.--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 18:42, 28 February 2010 (EST)

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	**To think there's some sort of psionic fire is speculative. The spontaneous in this case refers to the object suddenly being on fire, just that, otherwise we could go around arguing loads of ability names due to technicalities. Not a precedent I'd be willing to help set. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 12:57, 28 February 2010 (EST)		**To think there's some sort of psionic fire is speculative. The spontaneous in this case refers to the object suddenly being on fire, just that, otherwise we could go around arguing loads of ability names due to technicalities. Not a precedent I'd be willing to help set. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 12:57, 28 February 2010 (EST)
	***And it's not speculative to think that she makes the material explode on her own? I wasn't saying that was the way she did it, I was simply saying that we don't know how she does it, and therefore assuming otherwise cannot be used as support. In any case, sponatneous is uneeded in the name and could possibly be incorrect. Combustion was given explictly as possible as doesn't assume anything we haven't seen.--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 13:00, 28 February 2010 (EST)		***And it's not speculative to think that she makes the material explode on her own? I wasn't saying that was the way she did it, I was simply saying that we don't know how she does it, and therefore assuming otherwise cannot be used as support. In any case, sponatneous is uneeded in the name and could possibly be incorrect. Combustion was given explictly as possible as doesn't assume anything we haven't seen.--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 13:00, 28 February 2010 (EST)
	****It isn't, we've seen her blowing stuff up, including a car and some bags at the carnival. She either gets nervous or focuses, and stuff is on fire. Her ability is to make things catch on fire by themselves, you're making this into a case of semantics. Noah is a reliable source, and that's how he called the ability. Edgar's list, which appeared in an episode also calls it "spontaneous combustion", [[:Image:~~EdgarsList2~~.~~png~~\|seventh person on the list]]. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 13:08, 28 February 2010 (EST)		****It isn't, we've seen her blowing stuff up, including a car and some bags at the carnival. She either gets nervous or focuses, and stuff is on fire. Her ability is to make things catch on fire by themselves, you're making this into a case of semantics. Noah is a reliable source, and that's how he called the ability. Edgar's list, which appeared in an episode also calls it "spontaneous combustion", [[:Image:Edgar's list.jpg\|seventh person on the list]]. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 13:08, 28 February 2010 (EST)
	*****You yourself have said that we shouldn't derive names directly from the list (puppet master, remember?). And I'll say it once again, One cannot makes something spontaneously combust, that's an oxymoron. One can ''be'' spontaneously combusted but not that other way around. Going from Mc hammark's description from wikipedia, "a type of combustion which occurs without an external ignition source". Amanda's the external source, thus, it cannot be "spontanoues combustion". Whether she's throwing something at the object or simply manipulating the material itself into exploding, she's igniting it, and she's outside the object. There's a difference between "semantics" and "using words properly".--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 13:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)		*****You yourself have said that we shouldn't derive names directly from the list (puppet master, remember?). And I'll say it once again, One cannot makes something spontaneously combust, that's an oxymoron. One can ''be'' spontaneously combusted but not that other way around. Going from Mc hammark's description from wikipedia, "a type of combustion which occurs without an external ignition source". Amanda's the external source, thus, it cannot be "spontanoues combustion". Whether she's throwing something at the object or simply manipulating the material itself into exploding, she's igniting it, and she's outside the object. There's a difference between "semantics" and "using words properly".--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 13:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)
	******Amanda is not the source. The source must be physical, like a struck match or a spark. Her power is the ability to combust materials spontaneously, i.e. ''without'' an ignition source. --'''[[User:Ricard Desi\|<font color=#609000>Ricard</font>]]''' '''[[User talk:Ricard Desi\|<font color=#609000>Desi</font>]]''' 13:40, 28 February 2010 (EST)		******Amanda is not the source. The source must be physical, like a struck match or a spark. Her power is the ability to combust materials spontaneously, i.e. ''without'' an ignition source. --'''[[User:Ricard Desi\|<font color=#609000>Ricard</font>]]''' '''[[User talk:Ricard Desi\|<font color=#609000>Desi</font>]]''' 13:40, 28 February 2010 (EST)

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	******Amanda is not the source. The source must be physical, like a struck match or a spark. Her power is the ability to combust materials spontaneously, i.e. ''without'' an ignition source. --'''[[User:Ricard Desi\|<font color=#609000>Ricard</font>]]''' '''[[User talk:Ricard Desi\|<font color=#609000>Desi</font>]]''' 13:40, 28 February 2010 (EST)		******Amanda is not the source. The source must be physical, like a struck match or a spark. Her power is the ability to combust materials spontaneously, i.e. ''without'' an ignition source. --'''[[User:Ricard Desi\|<font color=#609000>Ricard</font>]]''' '''[[User talk:Ricard Desi\|<font color=#609000>Desi</font>]]''' 13:40, 28 February 2010 (EST)
	*The episodes are the "Canon Sources", Edgar's list says "Spontaneous combustion" so that's the name. --[[User:Tanderix\|Tanderix]] 13:45, 28 February 2010 (EST)		*The episodes are the "Canon Sources", Edgar's list says "Spontaneous combustion" so that's the name. --[[User:Tanderix\|Tanderix]] 13:45, 28 February 2010 (EST)

			* We have a canon source in Edgar's list, and a near-canon source in Noah (an expert in abilities) both calling the ability "spontaneous combustion". We have another near-canon source calling the ability "combustion", which seems like a generalized term of "spontaneous combustion" (or better said, "spontaneous combustion" is a more specific type of "combustion"). Both names describe the ability. There is no conflict of sources as neither source negates the other, thankfully. All are explicit uses of the name ("Amanda's ability is called ____.") However, we can only have one name for the title of this page. Ultimately, this is not a decision to be made based on whether Amanda's ability is "spontaneous" or not--arguments could be made for either side. The deciding factor in the name of this ability is the source. In this type of case, we normally prefer explicit canon sources over explicit near-canon sources (which is really the only reason we ever designated a difference between canon and near-canon sources in the first place). But even if we were to go with frequency of use (which is not the normal way we choose names), "spontaneous combustion" would still be the choice. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 13:49, 28 February 2010 (EST)

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	*****You yourself have said that we shouldn't derive names directly from the list (puppet master, remember?). And I'll say it once again, One cannot makes something spontaneously combust, that's an oxymoron. One can ''be'' spontaneously combusted but not that other way around. Going from Mc hammark's description from wikipedia, "a type of combustion which occurs without an external ignition source". Amanda's the external source, thus, it cannot be "spontanoues combustion". Whether she's throwing something at the object or simply manipulating the material itself into exploding, she's igniting it, and she's outside the object. There's a difference between "semantics" and "using words properly".--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 13:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)		*****You yourself have said that we shouldn't derive names directly from the list (puppet master, remember?). And I'll say it once again, One cannot makes something spontaneously combust, that's an oxymoron. One can ''be'' spontaneously combusted but not that other way around. Going from Mc hammark's description from wikipedia, "a type of combustion which occurs without an external ignition source". Amanda's the external source, thus, it cannot be "spontanoues combustion". Whether she's throwing something at the object or simply manipulating the material itself into exploding, she's igniting it, and she's outside the object. There's a difference between "semantics" and "using words properly".--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 13:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)
	******Amanda is not the source. The source must be physical, like a struck match or a spark. Her power is the ability to combust materials spontaneously, i.e. ''without'' an ignition source. --'''[[User:Ricard Desi\|<font color=#609000>Ricard</font>]]''' '''[[User talk:Ricard Desi\|<font color=#609000>Desi</font>]]''' 13:40, 28 February 2010 (EST)		******Amanda is not the source. The source must be physical, like a struck match or a spark. Her power is the ability to combust materials spontaneously, i.e. ''without'' an ignition source. --'''[[User:Ricard Desi\|<font color=#609000>Ricard</font>]]''' '''[[User talk:Ricard Desi\|<font color=#609000>Desi</font>]]''' 13:40, 28 February 2010 (EST)
			*The episodes are the "Canon Sources", Edgar's list says "Spontaneous combustion" so that's the name. --[[User:Tanderix\|Tanderix]] 13:45, 28 February 2010 (EST)

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	****It isn't, we've seen her blowing stuff up, including a car and some bags at the carnival. She either gets nervous or focuses, and stuff is on fire. Her ability is to make things catch on fire by themselves, you're making this into a case of semantics. Noah is a reliable source, and that's how he called the ability. Edgar's list, which appeared in an episode also calls it "spontaneous combustion", [[:Image:EdgarsList2.png\|seventh person on the list]]. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 13:08, 28 February 2010 (EST)		****It isn't, we've seen her blowing stuff up, including a car and some bags at the carnival. She either gets nervous or focuses, and stuff is on fire. Her ability is to make things catch on fire by themselves, you're making this into a case of semantics. Noah is a reliable source, and that's how he called the ability. Edgar's list, which appeared in an episode also calls it "spontaneous combustion", [[:Image:EdgarsList2.png\|seventh person on the list]]. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 13:08, 28 February 2010 (EST)
	*****You yourself have said that we shouldn't derive names directly from the list (puppet master, remember?). And I'll say it once again, One cannot makes something spontaneously combust, that's an oxymoron. One can ''be'' spontaneously combusted but not that other way around. Going from Mc hammark's description from wikipedia, "a type of combustion which occurs without an external ignition source". Amanda's the external source, thus, it cannot be "spontanoues combustion". Whether she's throwing something at the object or simply manipulating the material itself into exploding, she's igniting it, and she's outside the object. There's a difference between "semantics" and "using words properly".--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 13:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)		*****You yourself have said that we shouldn't derive names directly from the list (puppet master, remember?). And I'll say it once again, One cannot makes something spontaneously combust, that's an oxymoron. One can ''be'' spontaneously combusted but not that other way around. Going from Mc hammark's description from wikipedia, "a type of combustion which occurs without an external ignition source". Amanda's the external source, thus, it cannot be "spontanoues combustion". Whether she's throwing something at the object or simply manipulating the material itself into exploding, she's igniting it, and she's outside the object. There's a difference between "semantics" and "using words properly".--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 13:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)
			******Amanda is not the source. The source must be physical, like a struck match or a spark. Her power is the ability to combust materials spontaneously, i.e. ''without'' an ignition source. --'''[[User:Ricard Desi\|<font color=#609000>Ricard</font>]]''' '''[[User talk:Ricard Desi\|<font color=#609000>Desi</font>]]''' 13:40, 28 February 2010 (EST)

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	***And it's not speculative to think that she makes the material explode on her own? I wasn't saying that was the way she did it, I was simply saying that we don't know how she does it, and therefore assuming otherwise cannot be used as support. In any case, sponatneous is uneeded in the name and could possibly be incorrect. Combustion was given explictly as possible as doesn't assume anything we haven't seen.--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 13:00, 28 February 2010 (EST)		***And it's not speculative to think that she makes the material explode on her own? I wasn't saying that was the way she did it, I was simply saying that we don't know how she does it, and therefore assuming otherwise cannot be used as support. In any case, sponatneous is uneeded in the name and could possibly be incorrect. Combustion was given explictly as possible as doesn't assume anything we haven't seen.--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 13:00, 28 February 2010 (EST)
	****It isn't, we've seen her blowing stuff up, including a car and some bags at the carnival. She either gets nervous or focuses, and stuff is on fire. Her ability is to make things catch on fire by themselves, you're making this into a case of semantics. Noah is a reliable source, and that's how he called the ability. Edgar's list, which appeared in an episode also calls it "spontaneous combustion", [[:Image:EdgarsList2.png\|seventh person on the list]]. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 13:08, 28 February 2010 (EST)		****It isn't, we've seen her blowing stuff up, including a car and some bags at the carnival. She either gets nervous or focuses, and stuff is on fire. Her ability is to make things catch on fire by themselves, you're making this into a case of semantics. Noah is a reliable source, and that's how he called the ability. Edgar's list, which appeared in an episode also calls it "spontaneous combustion", [[:Image:EdgarsList2.png\|seventh person on the list]]. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 13:08, 28 February 2010 (EST)
			*****You yourself have said that we shouldn't derive names directly from the list (puppet master, remember?). And I'll say it once again, One cannot makes something spontaneously combust, that's an oxymoron. One can ''be'' spontaneously combusted but not that other way around. Going from Mc hammark's description from wikipedia, "a type of combustion which occurs without an external ignition source". Amanda's the external source, thus, it cannot be "spontanoues combustion". Whether she's throwing something at the object or simply manipulating the material itself into exploding, she's igniting it, and she's outside the object. There's a difference between "semantics" and "using words properly".--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 13:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)

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	**To think there's some sort of psionic fire is speculative. The spontaneous in this case refers to the object suddenly being on fire, just that, otherwise we could go around arguing loads of ability names due to technicalities. Not a precedent I'd be willing to help set. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 12:57, 28 February 2010 (EST)		**To think there's some sort of psionic fire is speculative. The spontaneous in this case refers to the object suddenly being on fire, just that, otherwise we could go around arguing loads of ability names due to technicalities. Not a precedent I'd be willing to help set. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 12:57, 28 February 2010 (EST)
	***And it's not speculative to think that she makes the material explode on her own? I wasn't saying that was the way she did it, I was simply saying that we don't know how she does it, and therefore assuming otherwise cannot be used as support. In any case, sponatneous is uneeded in the name and could possibly be incorrect. Combustion was given explictly as possible as doesn't assume anything we haven't seen.--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 13:00, 28 February 2010 (EST)		***And it's not speculative to think that she makes the material explode on her own? I wasn't saying that was the way she did it, I was simply saying that we don't know how she does it, and therefore assuming otherwise cannot be used as support. In any case, sponatneous is uneeded in the name and could possibly be incorrect. Combustion was given explictly as possible as doesn't assume anything we haven't seen.--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 13:00, 28 February 2010 (EST)
			****It isn't, we've seen her blowing stuff up, including a car and some bags at the carnival. She either gets nervous or focuses, and stuff is on fire. Her ability is to make things catch on fire by themselves, you're making this into a case of semantics. Noah is a reliable source, and that's how he called the ability. Edgar's list, which appeared in an episode also calls it "spontaneous combustion", [[:Image:EdgarsList2.png\|seventh person on the list]]. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 13:08, 28 February 2010 (EST)