Talk:Sylar - Revision history

imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* empathic mimicry */ new section

2011-02-26T21:18:48Z

empathic mimicry: new section

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	"Intuitive aptitude is the ability to understand the structure and operation of complex systems without special education or training. However, it also compels the holder to understand as much as they can, resulting in a "hunger" which can manifest a need to understand, which often causes Sylar to kill other evolved humans and acquire their abilities." there is nothing about gaining abilities empathically on the main description of the ability.--50000JH 15:55, 10 May 2010 (EDT)		"Intuitive aptitude is the ability to understand the structure and operation of complex systems without special education or training. However, it also compels the holder to understand as much as they can, resulting in a "hunger" which can manifest a need to understand, which often causes Sylar to kill other evolved humans and acquire their abilities." there is nothing about gaining abilities empathically on the main description of the ability.--50000JH 15:55, 10 May 2010 (EDT)
	** Agreed, there's a page called [[ability theft]] about the scalping and brain examination thing, but acquiring abilities empathically isn't ''theft''. It is already mentioned there, but not too much in detail. It deserves to be expanded and explained and all. {{User:Altes/Signature}} 05:43, 2 June 2010 (EDT)		** Agreed, there's a page called [[ability theft]] about the scalping and brain examination thing, but acquiring abilities empathically isn't ''theft''. It is already mentioned there, but not too much in detail. It deserves to be expanded and explained and all. {{User:Altes/Signature}} 05:43, 2 June 2010 (EDT)

			== empathic mimicry ==

			This has been discussed before (see above), but it's worth bringing up again. It certainly is possible that Sylar has empathic mimicry, but there simply is no conclusive evidence or proof pointing to him definitely having that ability. Therefore we won't list it on this page. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 16:18, 26 February 2011 (EST)

imported>Altes: /* Empathic connection */

2010-06-02T09:43:49Z

Empathic connection

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	== Empathic connection ==		== Empathic connection ==


	This is only a suggestion could we call the way that Sylar doesn't get his ability from killing "Empathic Connection" as this does not fit in with Intuitive aptitude: Analyzing complex system. It even has on the Intuitive aptitude main page: "Analyze complex systems" as well as		This is only a suggestion could we call the way that Sylar doesn't get his ability from killing "Empathic Connection" as this does not fit in with Intuitive aptitude: Analyzing complex system. It even has on the Intuitive aptitude main page: "Analyze complex systems" as well as
	"Intuitive aptitude is the ability to understand the structure and operation of complex systems without special education or training. However, it also compels the holder to understand as much as they can, resulting in a "hunger" which can manifest a need to understand, which often causes Sylar to kill other evolved humans and acquire their abilities." there is nothing about gaining abilities empathically on the main description of the ability.--50000JH 15:55, 10 May 2010 (EDT)		"Intuitive aptitude is the ability to understand the structure and operation of complex systems without special education or training. However, it also compels the holder to understand as much as they can, resulting in a "hunger" which can manifest a need to understand, which often causes Sylar to kill other evolved humans and acquire their abilities." there is nothing about gaining abilities empathically on the main description of the ability.--50000JH 15:55, 10 May 2010 (EDT)
			** Agreed, there's a page called [[ability theft]] about the scalping and brain examination thing, but acquiring abilities empathically isn't ''theft''. It is already mentioned there, but not too much in detail. It deserves to be expanded and explained and all. {{User:Altes/Signature}} 05:43, 2 June 2010 (EDT)

imported>PJDEP: siggy

2010-06-01T01:04:11Z

siggy

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	***************** We've never seen Sylar expose somebody's brain and NOT take their ability, guess it's right to list him as having imprinting and disintegration. And the process of [[ability theft]] takes only a few seconds - remember Charlie, Sue Landers and Tom Miller. {{User:Altes/Signature}} 05:52, 14 February 2010 (EST)		***************** We've never seen Sylar expose somebody's brain and NOT take their ability, guess it's right to list him as having imprinting and disintegration. And the process of [[ability theft]] takes only a few seconds - remember Charlie, Sue Landers and Tom Miller. {{User:Altes/Signature}} 05:52, 14 February 2010 (EST)
	*It seems as though Sylar only ever opens the brain to take someone's power, as we've never seen him do it for any other reason, and tends to kill people in more mundance ways the rest of the time (like slashing Nathan's throat). It's technically speculative to say he took their powers as he hasn't demonstrated them, but that seems a very silly amount of nitpicking as it seems that was clearly the writer's intention. It's safe enough to list them, I think. [[User:Swmystery\|Swm]] 06:56, 14 February 2010 (EST)		*It seems as though Sylar only ever opens the brain to take someone's power, as we've never seen him do it for any other reason, and tends to kill people in more mundance ways the rest of the time (like slashing Nathan's throat). It's technically speculative to say he took their powers as he hasn't demonstrated them, but that seems a very silly amount of nitpicking as it seems that was clearly the writer's intention. It's safe enough to list them, I think. [[User:Swmystery\|Swm]] 06:56, 14 February 2010 (EST)
	*Exposing the brain not only abades the hunger but it also allows him to take someone's ability and know how to use it much faster than the empathy route, which is why Elle had to teach him when he took hers, and why his shapeshifting was quite slow at first. However, and pardon me for questioning what's already well established, why should he open up the skull at all? If '''IA''' allows him to know how things work why would seeing and feeling the brain help? The first season/volume the creators intended for him to ''eat'' the brains altering his DNA and obtaining the ability, but that was of course changed and why his victims' brains were missing was not explained. The fact his DNA changed with each new ability was confirmed multiple times but how can he alter his own brain functions and change his DNA just by sticking his fingers in somebody's skull? Sorry, a bit off topic, but that's the problem I have, and IMHO if it's clear he acquired an ability listing it is fine, whether he uses it or not.		*Exposing the brain not only abades the hunger but it also allows him to take someone's ability and know how to use it much faster than the empathy route, which is why Elle had to teach him when he took hers, and why his shapeshifting was quite slow at first. However, and pardon me for questioning what's already well established, why should he open up the skull at all? If '''IA''' allows him to know how things work why would seeing and feeling the brain help? The first season/volume the creators intended for him to ''eat'' the brains altering his DNA and obtaining the ability, but that was of course changed and why his victims' brains were missing was not explained. The fact his DNA changed with each new ability was confirmed multiple times but how can he alter his own brain functions and change his DNA just by sticking his fingers in somebody's skull? Sorry, a bit off topic, but that's the problem I have, and IMHO if it's clear he acquired an ability listing it is fine, whether he uses it or not.--[[User:Inblackestnight\|Inblackestnight]] 20:59, 31 May 2010
	== Saint Sylar ==		== Saint Sylar ==
	'''Sign if you think Saint-Sylar sucks!'''		'''Sign if you think Saint-Sylar sucks!'''

imported>Inblackestnight at 00:59, 1 June 2010

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	***************** We've never seen Sylar expose somebody's brain and NOT take their ability, guess it's right to list him as having imprinting and disintegration. And the process of [[ability theft]] takes only a few seconds - remember Charlie, Sue Landers and Tom Miller. {{User:Altes/Signature}} 05:52, 14 February 2010 (EST)		***************** We've never seen Sylar expose somebody's brain and NOT take their ability, guess it's right to list him as having imprinting and disintegration. And the process of [[ability theft]] takes only a few seconds - remember Charlie, Sue Landers and Tom Miller. {{User:Altes/Signature}} 05:52, 14 February 2010 (EST)
	*It seems as though Sylar only ever opens the brain to take someone's power, as we've never seen him do it for any other reason, and tends to kill people in more mundance ways the rest of the time (like slashing Nathan's throat). It's technically speculative to say he took their powers as he hasn't demonstrated them, but that seems a very silly amount of nitpicking as it seems that was clearly the writer's intention. It's safe enough to list them, I think. [[User:Swmystery\|Swm]] 06:56, 14 February 2010 (EST)		*It seems as though Sylar only ever opens the brain to take someone's power, as we've never seen him do it for any other reason, and tends to kill people in more mundance ways the rest of the time (like slashing Nathan's throat). It's technically speculative to say he took their powers as he hasn't demonstrated them, but that seems a very silly amount of nitpicking as it seems that was clearly the writer's intention. It's safe enough to list them, I think. [[User:Swmystery\|Swm]] 06:56, 14 February 2010 (EST)
			*Exposing the brain not only abades the hunger but it also allows him to take someone's ability and know how to use it much faster than the empathy route, which is why Elle had to teach him when he took hers, and why his shapeshifting was quite slow at first. However, and pardon me for questioning what's already well established, why should he open up the skull at all? If '''IA''' allows him to know how things work why would seeing and feeling the brain help? The first season/volume the creators intended for him to ''eat'' the brains altering his DNA and obtaining the ability, but that was of course changed and why his victims' brains were missing was not explained. The fact his DNA changed with each new ability was confirmed multiple times but how can he alter his own brain functions and change his DNA just by sticking his fingers in somebody's skull? Sorry, a bit off topic, but that's the problem I have, and IMHO if it's clear he acquired an ability listing it is fine, whether he uses it or not.

	== Saint Sylar ==		== Saint Sylar ==
	'''Sign if you think Saint-Sylar sucks!'''		'''Sign if you think Saint-Sylar sucks!'''

imported>50000JH: /* Empathic connection */ new section

2010-05-10T19:55:30Z

Empathic connection: new section

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	Does anyone else think that would be hilarious? Imagine if HRG had to go with the facade and play nice with Sylar. That would be a dozen times funnier than the Bennet thanksgiving dinner.--''<small>[[User:Boycool42\|<font color=blue>BOYCOOL</font>]]</small>'' -- '''''<big>[[User talk:Boycool42\|<font color=black>THE END IS NIGH.</font>]]</big>''''' 19:17, 10 April 2010 (EDT)		Does anyone else think that would be hilarious? Imagine if HRG had to go with the facade and play nice with Sylar. That would be a dozen times funnier than the Bennet thanksgiving dinner.--''<small>[[User:Boycool42\|<font color=blue>BOYCOOL</font>]]</small>'' -- '''''<big>[[User talk:Boycool42\|<font color=black>THE END IS NIGH.</font>]]</big>''''' 19:17, 10 April 2010 (EDT)

			== Empathic connection ==


			This is only a suggestion could we call the way that Sylar doesn't get his ability from killing "Empathic Connection" as this does not fit in with Intuitive aptitude: Analyzing complex system. It even has on the Intuitive aptitude main page: "Analyze complex systems" as well as
			"Intuitive aptitude is the ability to understand the structure and operation of complex systems without special education or training. However, it also compels the holder to understand as much as they can, resulting in a "hunger" which can manifest a need to understand, which often causes Sylar to kill other evolved humans and acquire their abilities." there is nothing about gaining abilities empathically on the main description of the ability.--50000JH 15:55, 10 May 2010 (EDT)

imported>50000JH: /* No villian */

2010-05-10T19:41:25Z

No villian

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	**It'd be a loss of creativity if they kept him completely static. While I'm not sure if "Saint Sylar" was the way to go, he did need a change of some sort.--[[User:PJDEP\|PJDEP]] - [[User Talk:PJDEP\|Need further explanation?]] 14:22, 20 February 2010 (EST)		**It'd be a loss of creativity if they kept him completely static. While I'm not sure if "Saint Sylar" was the way to go, he did need a change of some sort.--[[User:PJDEP\|PJDEP]] - [[User Talk:PJDEP\|Need further explanation?]] 14:22, 20 February 2010 (EST)
	***The right way to go: Bad Sylar kills off a main character, making him virtually indestructible. Everyone bands together to fight him. Peter replicates his disintegration and kills him. The heroes walk off toward another eclipse. The End of Heroes.--[[User:Boycool42\|Boycool42]] 18:03, 20 February 2010 (EST)		***The right way to go: Bad Sylar kills off a main character, making him virtually indestructible. Everyone bands together to fight him. Peter replicates his disintegration and kills him. The heroes walk off toward another eclipse. The End of Heroes.--[[User:Boycool42\|Boycool42]] 18:03, 20 February 2010 (EST)

			To me, if Sylar is going back to be a Villian, the writers has to come up with a way were he doesn't keep using Telekinetically control his victim but a new way of being bad. Doyle and Samuel could be the villians, Samuel may know about Ando ability; and I think Doyle is the only one who is loyal to Samuel, you could have a plot where Doyle holds Ando as a hostage, get him to supercharge Samuel ability and the prison crumbling putting anyone with abilities in jepodary from the public, although the plot is similar to the season of that of fugitives.--50000JH 15:41, 10 May 2010 (EDT)

	== TK ==		== TK ==

imported>Boycool42: /* Distractions */

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Distractions

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	== [[Distractions]] ==		== [[Distractions]] ==
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	"....That means an extra plate. Why don't you stay for dinner? Least [[Sandra Bennet\|I]] can offer my new [[Sylar\|hero]]."		"....That means an extra plate. Why don't you stay for dinner? Least [[Sandra Bennet\|I]] can offer my new [[Sylar\|hero]]."

imported>Boycool42: Mistake

2010-04-10T23:22:33Z

Mistake

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	*Everyone knows that already, flight and TK are simply abilities which can be used to perform similar tasks. TK most likely can't be used in the same scale as flight, and Sylar doesn't care much about how useful an ability is, we've been told this already. I apologize, because this ''will'' sound rude, but you really should stop making so many topics to state the obvious. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 20:55, 28 March 2010 (EDT)		*Everyone knows that already, flight and TK are simply abilities which can be used to perform similar tasks. TK most likely can't be used in the same scale as flight, and Sylar doesn't care much about how useful an ability is, we've been told this already. I apologize, because this ''will'' sound rude, but you really should stop making so many topics to state the obvious. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 20:55, 28 March 2010 (EDT)

	== [[~~The Fix~~]] ==		== [[Distractions]] ==
	"....That means an extra plate. Why don't you stay for dinner? Least [[Sandra Bennet\|I]] can offer my new [[Sylar\|hero]]."		"....That means an extra plate. Why don't you stay for dinner? Least [[Sandra Bennet\|I]] can offer my new [[Sylar\|hero]]."

imported>Boycool42 at 23:17, 10 April 2010

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	--50000JH 20:49, 28 March 2010 (EDT)		--50000JH 20:49, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
	*Everyone knows that already, flight and TK are simply abilities which can be used to perform similar tasks. TK most likely can't be used in the same scale as flight, and Sylar doesn't care much about how useful an ability is, we've been told this already. I apologize, because this ''will'' sound rude, but you really should stop making so many topics to state the obvious. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 20:55, 28 March 2010 (EDT)		*Everyone knows that already, flight and TK are simply abilities which can be used to perform similar tasks. TK most likely can't be used in the same scale as flight, and Sylar doesn't care much about how useful an ability is, we've been told this already. I apologize, because this ''will'' sound rude, but you really should stop making so many topics to state the obvious. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 20:55, 28 March 2010 (EDT)

			== [[The Fix]] ==
			"....That means an extra plate. Why don't you stay for dinner? Least [[Sandra Bennet\|I]] can offer my new [[Sylar\|hero]]."

			Does anyone else think that would be hilarious? Imagine if HRG had to go with the facade and play nice with Sylar. That would be a dozen times funnier than the Bennet thanksgiving dinner.--''<small>[[User:Boycool42\|<font color=blue>BOYCOOL</font>]]</small>'' -- '''''<big>[[User talk:Boycool42\|<font color=black>THE END IS NIGH.</font>]]</big>''''' 19:17, 10 April 2010 (EDT)

imported>Mc hammark: Undo revision 440004 by 50000JH (Talk):

2010-03-29T16:05:45Z

Undo revision 440004 by 50000JH (Talk):

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	== Flight ==		== Flight ==

	I don't mean to repeat anybody or myself. Sylar should have flight before he acquired it from Nathan: In season 1 during when he acquired enhance hearing Dale said that she could hear the smallest sound; Sylar overcame this and used his IA and telekinesis to leviate to kill her; if there are two people and one leviates and the other flies they are both defying gravity; since IA give Sylar more control of the power he gained and know how it worked or can work e.g. Telekinesis being use as a knife to cut open his victim's head. This mean he should have developed telekinesis to leviate to flight.		I don't mean to Sylar repeat anybody or myself. Sylar should have flight before he acquired it from Nathan: In season 1 during when he acquired enhance hearing Dale said that she could hear the smallest sound; Sylar overcame this and used his IA and telekinesis to leviate to kill her; if there are two people and one leviates and the other flies they are both defying gravity; since IA give Sylar more control of the power he gained and know how it worked or can work e.g. Telekinesis being use as a knife to cut open his victim's head. This mean he should have developed telekinesis to leviate to flight.
	--50000JH 20:49, 28 March 2010 (EDT)		--50000JH 20:49, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
	*Everyone knows that already, flight and TK are simply abilities which can be used to perform similar tasks. TK most likely can't be used in the same scale as flight, and Sylar doesn't care much about how useful an ability is, we've been told this already. I apologize, because this ''will'' sound rude, but you really should stop making so many topics to state th		*Everyone knows that already, flight and TK are simply abilities which can be used to perform similar tasks. TK most likely can't be used in the same scale as flight, and Sylar doesn't care much about how useful an ability is, we've been told this already. I apologize, because this ''will'' sound rude, but you really should stop making so many topics to state the obvious. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 20:55, 28 March 2010 (EDT)