Talk:Takezo Kensei - Revision history

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	== Category ==		== Category ==

	Kensei is being listed in ~~[[:~~Category:Minor Characters]]. That strikes me as odd. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 03:26, 2 December 2007 (EST)		Kensei is being listed in Category:Minor Characters. That strikes me as odd. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 03:26, 2 December 2007 (EST)
	* Is he not listed in the character portals at all?--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 03:57, 2 December 2007 (EST)		* Is he not listed in the character portals at all?--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 03:57, 2 December 2007 (EST)
	** Maybe because of Fake Kensei?--[[User:Riddler\|Riddler]] 03:59, 2 December 2007 (EST)		** Maybe because of Fake Kensei?--[[User:Riddler\|Riddler]] 03:59, 2 December 2007 (EST)

imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* Birth year */

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Birth year

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	::: I've been of the assumption that Adam was indeed 90 years old at the time. The elements are all there for Adam to have simply been living an extended life as a drunken warrior, with the alchohol making him never really realize just how long he has lived. If he were regularly moving on, never making ties to others such that he would see them age while he did not, and with the booze blurring his life in general, then I would think it's quite possible that he is indeed 90 years old at that point, without having a clue to the fact. This is much more speculation on my part than fact, but IMHO it is perfectly possible that the given birthdate is indeed Adam's. - [[User:TexasAndroid\|TexasAndroid]] 16:57, 20 November 2007 (EST)		::: I've been of the assumption that Adam was indeed 90 years old at the time. The elements are all there for Adam to have simply been living an extended life as a drunken warrior, with the alchohol making him never really realize just how long he has lived. If he were regularly moving on, never making ties to others such that he would see them age while he did not, and with the booze blurring his life in general, then I would think it's quite possible that he is indeed 90 years old at that point, without having a clue to the fact. This is much more speculation on my part than fact, but IMHO it is perfectly possible that the given birthdate is indeed Adam's. - [[User:TexasAndroid\|TexasAndroid]] 16:57, 20 November 2007 (EST)
	:He was 357 up til before he died. According to The Ten Brides of Takezo Kensei, he got 42 during 1692. --[[User:DLHawk\|DLHawk]] 13:49, 10 November 2008 (EST)		:He was 357 up til before he died. According to The Ten Brides of Takezo Kensei, he got 42 during 1692. --[[User:DLHawk\|DLHawk]] 13:49, 10 November 2008 (EST)
			:: And according to the [[Museum of Natural History]], he was 87 when he met Hiro. In an [[Interview:Chuck Kim\|interview]], [[Chuck Kim]] said that there were some historical inaccuracies. It's not something we can pin down, exactly. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 15:24, 10 November 2008 (EST)

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imported>DLHawk: /* Birth year */

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	::As far as I can tell, that birthdate belongs exclusively to the legend, and not to any of the people filling the role. The birthdate of 1584 would put him at almost 90 years old at the time he performed his trials. We know that Hiro obviously wasn't born that year, and Adam didn't yet know about his regeneration, so he was likely born only 30 years before the trials, and the fake Kensei didn't seem to be that old either. So when the date belongs only to the legend, and none of the people that filled the role, it seems appropriate to add it to the page about the legend. --[[User:Maelwys\|Maelwys]] 16:49, 20 November 2007 (EST)		::As far as I can tell, that birthdate belongs exclusively to the legend, and not to any of the people filling the role. The birthdate of 1584 would put him at almost 90 years old at the time he performed his trials. We know that Hiro obviously wasn't born that year, and Adam didn't yet know about his regeneration, so he was likely born only 30 years before the trials, and the fake Kensei didn't seem to be that old either. So when the date belongs only to the legend, and none of the people that filled the role, it seems appropriate to add it to the page about the legend. --[[User:Maelwys\|Maelwys]] 16:49, 20 November 2007 (EST)
	::: I've been of the assumption that Adam was indeed 90 years old at the time. The elements are all there for Adam to have simply been living an extended life as a drunken warrior, with the alchohol making him never really realize just how long he has lived. If he were regularly moving on, never making ties to others such that he would see them age while he did not, and with the booze blurring his life in general, then I would think it's quite possible that he is indeed 90 years old at that point, without having a clue to the fact. This is much more speculation on my part than fact, but IMHO it is perfectly possible that the given birthdate is indeed Adam's. - [[User:TexasAndroid\|TexasAndroid]] 16:57, 20 November 2007 (EST)		::: I've been of the assumption that Adam was indeed 90 years old at the time. The elements are all there for Adam to have simply been living an extended life as a drunken warrior, with the alchohol making him never really realize just how long he has lived. If he were regularly moving on, never making ties to others such that he would see them age while he did not, and with the booze blurring his life in general, then I would think it's quite possible that he is indeed 90 years old at that point, without having a clue to the fact. This is much more speculation on my part than fact, but IMHO it is perfectly possible that the given birthdate is indeed Adam's. - [[User:TexasAndroid\|TexasAndroid]] 16:57, 20 November 2007 (EST)
			:He was 357 up til before he died. According to The Ten Brides of Takezo Kensei, he got 42 during 1692. --[[User:DLHawk\|DLHawk]] 13:49, 10 November 2008 (EST)

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imported>MiamiVolts: +archivelinks template, tocright

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	== Character? ==		== Character? ==

	Should he be in the character categories? --{{User:ohmyn0/sig}} 19:08, 24 January 2007 (EST)		Should he be in the character categories? --{{User:ohmyn0/sig}} 19:08, 24 January 2007 (EST)

imported>5of0: /* Carp? */

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Carp?

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	*Why does Kensei call Hiro "carp"? Is it ever mentioned?--{{User:Lost Soul/sig}} 05:35, 31 October 2007 (EDT)		*Why does Kensei call Hiro "carp"? Is it ever mentioned?--{{User:Lost Soul/sig}} 05:35, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

	**In [[Episode:Lizards]], I think, a drunk Kensei remarks that Hiro looks like a fish when he talks. "A giant carp." --[[User:Conspiracy Unit\|Conspiracy Unit]] 05:38, 31 October 2007 (EDT)		**In [[Episode:Lizards]], I think, a drunk Kensei remarks that Hiro looks like a fish when he talks. "A giant carp." --[[User:Conspiracy Unit\|Conspiracy Unit]] 05:38, 31 October 2007 (EDT)
	**Aah, I see. Cool. Thanks.--{{User:Lost Soul/sig}} 05:39, 31 October 2007 (EDT)		**Aah, I see. Cool. Thanks.--{{User:Lost Soul/sig}} 05:39, 31 October 2007 (EDT)
			***The full line (from a [http://www.kilohoku.com/transcripts/heroes/heroes-2X02.html transcript]) is:
			****KENSEI: You look like a fish when you talk.
			****HIRO: No, I promise, if you do this, they will tell the story for 400 years ... minimum!
			****KENSEI: Like a giant carp.</blockquote>

	== Move to Adam Monroe ==		== Move to Adam Monroe ==

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imported>Hardvice at 09:03, 2 December 2007

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	** Maybe because of Fake Kensei?--[[User:Riddler\|Riddler]] 03:59, 2 December 2007 (EST)		** Maybe because of Fake Kensei?--[[User:Riddler\|Riddler]] 03:59, 2 December 2007 (EST)
	*** My point is: is ''this article'' not listed in the character portals at all? If not, should it be? If it should, then it needs to have a type added. If it shouldn't, then I'll have to add a reflex to override the autocat.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 04:00, 2 December 2007 (EST)		*** My point is: is ''this article'' not listed in the character portals at all? If not, should it be? If it should, then it needs to have a type added. If it shouldn't, then I'll have to add a reflex to override the autocat.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 04:00, 2 December 2007 (EST)
			*** And yes, ''this article'' is in fact not listed in any character portal. Minor is the default. Since he wasn't in a portal, that's where he ended up. Do we need to override that, or can we assign him a type and add him to a portal?--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 04:03, 2 December 2007 (EST)

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	**** Hmm... I'd put him in as a major character because two of the three people who act as him are major. I dunno though.--[[User:Riddler\|Riddler]] 04:06, 2 December 2007 (EST)		**** Hmm... I'd put him in as a major character because two of the three people who act as him are major. I dunno though.--[[User:Riddler\|Riddler]] 04:06, 2 December 2007 (EST)
	***** It's just such a weird situation because he's portrayed by [[David Anders]], so I guess he would be a main character (like Jessica was in Season One). But he's also sort of not really a character at all. I'm in the camp of "Kensei is Adam and others used the name", but other people have the opinion that "Kensei is a legend and is not and never was a real person"....If he's in a character portal, I'd say he's a main character. But another option is to make a subportal of references for "Non-real-world references" (or something like that) and include things like [[Kensei]], [[Gannon Car Rentals]], and [[Yatta]]. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 04:10, 2 December 2007 (EST)		***** It's just such a weird situation because he's portrayed by [[David Anders]], so I guess he would be a main character (like Jessica was in Season One). But he's also sort of not really a character at all. I'm in the camp of "Kensei is Adam and others used the name", but other people have the opinion that "Kensei is a legend and is not and never was a real person"....If he's in a character portal, I'd say he's a main character. But another option is to make a subportal of references for "Non-real-world references" (or something like that) and include things like [[Kensei]], [[Gannon Car Rentals]], and [[Yatta]]. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 04:10, 2 December 2007 (EST)
			****** For now, I will forcibly exclude him from the cat to maintain the status quo, then.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 05:52, 2 December 2007 (EST)

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	*** And yes, ''this article'' is in fact not listed in any character portal. Minor is the default. Since he wasn't in a portal, that's where he ended up. Do we need to override that, or can we assign him a type and add him to a portal?--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 04:03, 2 December 2007 (EST)		*** And yes, ''this article'' is in fact not listed in any character portal. Minor is the default. Since he wasn't in a portal, that's where he ended up. Do we need to override that, or can we assign him a type and add him to a portal?--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 04:03, 2 December 2007 (EST)
	**** Hmm... I'd put him in as a major character because two of the three people who act as him are major. I dunno though.--[[User:Riddler\|Riddler]] 04:06, 2 December 2007 (EST)		**** Hmm... I'd put him in as a major character because two of the three people who act as him are major. I dunno though.--[[User:Riddler\|Riddler]] 04:06, 2 December 2007 (EST)
			***** It's just such a weird situation because he's portrayed by [[David Anders]], so I guess he would be a main character (like Jessica was in Season One). But he's also sort of not really a character at all. I'm in the camp of "Kensei is Adam and others used the name", but other people have the opinion that "Kensei is a legend and is not and never was a real person"....If he's in a character portal, I'd say he's a main character. But another option is to make a subportal of references for "Non-real-world references" (or something like that) and include things like [[Kensei]], [[Gannon Car Rentals]], and [[Yatta]]. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 04:10, 2 December 2007 (EST)

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	*** My point is: is ''this article'' not listed in the character portals at all? If not, should it be? If it should, then it needs to have a type added. If it shouldn't, then I'll have to add a reflex to override the autocat.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 04:00, 2 December 2007 (EST)		*** My point is: is ''this article'' not listed in the character portals at all? If not, should it be? If it should, then it needs to have a type added. If it shouldn't, then I'll have to add a reflex to override the autocat.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 04:00, 2 December 2007 (EST)
	*** And yes, ''this article'' is in fact not listed in any character portal. Minor is the default. Since he wasn't in a portal, that's where he ended up. Do we need to override that, or can we assign him a type and add him to a portal?--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 04:03, 2 December 2007 (EST)		*** And yes, ''this article'' is in fact not listed in any character portal. Minor is the default. Since he wasn't in a portal, that's where he ended up. Do we need to override that, or can we assign him a type and add him to a portal?--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 04:03, 2 December 2007 (EST)
			**** Hmm... I'd put him in as a major character because two of the three people who act as him are major. I dunno though.--[[User:Riddler\|Riddler]] 04:06, 2 December 2007 (EST)

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	** Maybe because of Fake Kensei?--[[User:Riddler\|Riddler]] 03:59, 2 December 2007 (EST)		** Maybe because of Fake Kensei?--[[User:Riddler\|Riddler]] 03:59, 2 December 2007 (EST)
	*** My point is: is ''this article'' not listed in the character portals at all? If not, should it be? If it should, then it needs to have a type added. If it shouldn't, then I'll have to add a reflex to override the autocat.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 04:00, 2 December 2007 (EST)		*** My point is: is ''this article'' not listed in the character portals at all? If not, should it be? If it should, then it needs to have a type added. If it shouldn't, then I'll have to add a reflex to override the autocat.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 04:00, 2 December 2007 (EST)
			*** And yes, ''this article'' is in fact not listed in any character portal. Minor is the default. Since he wasn't in a portal, that's where he ended up. Do we need to override that, or can we assign him a type and add him to a portal?--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 04:03, 2 December 2007 (EST)