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Can terrakinetics manipulate metal?

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Can terrakinetics manipulate metal?

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	****Theoretically, if he's able to target and manipulate minute earth particles inside the metal, yes, he'd be able to do it. Toph could do it because she used Earthbending to see the world through vibrations, a seismic sense, so to speak. She was able to use that to pinpoint earth inside metal and use it to bend the non-earth part. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 14:32, 21 March 2010 (EDT)		****Theoretically, if he's able to target and manipulate minute earth particles inside the metal, yes, he'd be able to do it. Toph could do it because she used Earthbending to see the world through vibrations, a seismic sense, so to speak. She was able to use that to pinpoint earth inside metal and use it to bend the non-earth part. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 14:32, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
	*****Samuel doesn't seem to have to pinpoint earth to manipulate it, as evidenced when he levitated multiple rocks in Thanksgiving.--[[User:Boycool42\|Boycool42]] 14:49, 21 March 2010 (EDT)		*****Samuel doesn't seem to have to pinpoint earth to manipulate it, as evidenced when he levitated multiple rocks in Thanksgiving.--[[User:Boycool42\|Boycool42]] 14:49, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
			******In this case, it's minute thing, probably much smaller than the dust he used against Sylar, and the mineral in the ink he used on Lydia. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 15:25, 21 March 2010 (EDT)

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Can terrakinetics manipulate metal?

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	***So Samuel could do the same?--[[User:Boycool42\|Boycool42]] 14:25, 21 March 2010 (EDT)		***So Samuel could do the same?--[[User:Boycool42\|Boycool42]] 14:25, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
	****Theoretically, if he's able to target and manipulate minute earth particles inside the metal, yes, he'd be able to do it. Toph could do it because she used Earthbending to see the world through vibrations, a seismic sense, so to speak. She was able to use that to pinpoint earth inside metal and use it to bend the non-earth part. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 14:32, 21 March 2010 (EDT)		****Theoretically, if he's able to target and manipulate minute earth particles inside the metal, yes, he'd be able to do it. Toph could do it because she used Earthbending to see the world through vibrations, a seismic sense, so to speak. She was able to use that to pinpoint earth inside metal and use it to bend the non-earth part. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 14:32, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
			*****Samuel doesn't seem to have to pinpoint earth to manipulate it, as evidenced when he levitated multiple rocks in Thanksgiving.--[[User:Boycool42\|Boycool42]] 14:49, 21 March 2010 (EDT)

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	**As someone who is very well versed in that show, Toph doesn't actually manipulates metal, she uses the earthen impurities inside the metal to control it. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 11:45, 21 March 2010 (EDT)		**As someone who is very well versed in that show, Toph doesn't actually manipulates metal, she uses the earthen impurities inside the metal to control it. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 11:45, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
	***So Samuel could do the same?--[[User:Boycool42\|Boycool42]] 14:25, 21 March 2010 (EDT)		***So Samuel could do the same?--[[User:Boycool42\|Boycool42]] 14:25, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
			****Theoretically, if he's able to target and manipulate minute earth particles inside the metal, yes, he'd be able to do it. Toph could do it because she used Earthbending to see the world through vibrations, a seismic sense, so to speak. She was able to use that to pinpoint earth inside metal and use it to bend the non-earth part. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 14:32, 21 March 2010 (EDT)

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Can terrakinetics manipulate metal?

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	*I don't think so. The metal may come from the earth, but it's not the earth, it's just buried under it. I think terrakinetics are simply movers of dirt/soil/rocks. --[[User:Mc hammark\|mc_hammark]] 10:42, 21 March 2010 (EDT)		*I don't think so. The metal may come from the earth, but it's not the earth, it's just buried under it. I think terrakinetics are simply movers of dirt/soil/rocks. --[[User:Mc hammark\|mc_hammark]] 10:42, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
	**As someone who is very well versed in that show, Toph doesn't actually manipulates metal, she uses the earthen impurities inside the metal to control it. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 11:45, 21 March 2010 (EDT)		**As someone who is very well versed in that show, Toph doesn't actually manipulates metal, she uses the earthen impurities inside the metal to control it. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 11:45, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
			***So Samuel could do the same?--[[User:Boycool42\|Boycool42]] 14:25, 21 March 2010 (EDT)

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	Regarding the number of specials around when Samuel couldn't use his powers: While there were initially 4 (Sylar, Peter, Emma, Doyle), when Samuel was being loaded into the police car, Hiro, Ando and Claire were there as well. It might, however, be speculative to include that since we didn't see him try to use his powers then (even if common sense would dictate he would probably try to, we can't really assume that).<br> On a similar note, did we ever figure out how the Carnival moves? When Samuel took Tracy there, we didn't see any other EH's around...as such, to say it was anything other than Samuel moving them would be speculation as well, right? Therefore, he was able to use some form of his power (to bring himself and Tracy to the Carnival) when only one other EH was present (similarly, he killed Mohinder and Joseph with less than 4 other EH's around, though that brings into question range and how much of his ability he can use). --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] 15:28, 9 February 2010 (EST)		Regarding the number of specials around when Samuel couldn't use his powers: While there were initially 4 (Sylar, Peter, Emma, Doyle), when Samuel was being loaded into the police car, Hiro, Ando and Claire were there as well. It might, however, be speculative to include that since we didn't see him try to use his powers then (even if common sense would dictate he would probably try to, we can't really assume that).<br> On a similar note, did we ever figure out how the Carnival moves? When Samuel took Tracy there, we didn't see any other EH's around...as such, to say it was anything other than Samuel moving them would be speculation as well, right? Therefore, he was able to use some form of his power (to bring himself and Tracy to the Carnival) when only one other EH was present (similarly, he killed Mohinder and Joseph with less than 4 other EH's around, though that brings into question range and how much of his ability he can use). --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] 15:28, 9 February 2010 (EST)

	== I think we should put about ~~the ability that~~. ~~The more people there are the powerfull the ability becomes~~. ==		== I think we should put about... ==

			...the ability that The more people there are the powerful the ability becomes. The film about Samuel thought that he was special and powerful, not because of his ability but may be he was divine or somewhere, along those lines but reading A brave new world it is clear more people there are the powerful, although we not seen this with sparrow although she been with less people then what Samuel and Peter have been with.--50000JH 20:57, 20 March 2010 (EDT)
	The film about Samuel thought that he was special and powerful,
			*First, don't make giant section names. Second, the more people, more power is mentioned in Samuel's section, no divine stuff. Sparrow has been in proximity with other evolved humans, and was able to use her ability while falling from a plane. With both alone, she's more powerful. Third, please, use proper formatting in your text, no need for blocks of text. Fourth, all in all, you made a section for nothing. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 11:45, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
	not because of his ability but may be he was divine or somewhere,
	along those lines but reading A brave new world it is clear more
	people there are the powerful, although we not seen this with
	sparrow although she been with less people then what Samuel and
	Peter have been with.--50000JH 20:57, 20 March 2010 (EDT)

	== Can terrakinetics manipulate metal? ==		== Can terrakinetics manipulate metal? ==
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	Metal comes from the earth. "Earthbenders" in ''Avatar: The Last Airbender'' could manipulate metal with concentration. Anyone?--[[User:Boycool42\|Boycool42]] 08:25, 21 March 2010 (EDT)		Metal comes from the earth. "Earthbenders" in ''Avatar: The Last Airbender'' could manipulate metal with concentration. Anyone?--[[User:Boycool42\|Boycool42]] 08:25, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
	*I don't think so. The metal may come from the earth, but it's not the earth, it's just buried under it. I think terrakinetics are simply movers of dirt/soil/rocks. --[[User:Mc hammark\|mc_hammark]] 10:42, 21 March 2010 (EDT)		*I don't think so. The metal may come from the earth, but it's not the earth, it's just buried under it. I think terrakinetics are simply movers of dirt/soil/rocks. --[[User:Mc hammark\|mc_hammark]] 10:42, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
			**As someone who is very well versed in that show, Toph doesn't actually manipulates metal, she uses the earthen impurities inside the metal to control it. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 11:45, 21 March 2010 (EDT)

imported>Mc hammark: /* Can terrakinetics manipulate metal? */

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	Metal comes from the earth. "Earthbenders" in ''Avatar: The Last Airbender'' could manipulate metal with concentration. Anyone?--[[User:Boycool42\|Boycool42]] 08:25, 21 March 2010 (EDT)		Metal comes from the earth. "Earthbenders" in ''Avatar: The Last Airbender'' could manipulate metal with concentration. Anyone?--[[User:Boycool42\|Boycool42]] 08:25, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
			*I don't think so. The metal may come from the earth, but it's not the earth, it's just buried under it. I think terrakinetics are simply movers of dirt/soil/rocks. --[[User:Mc hammark\|mc_hammark]] 10:42, 21 March 2010 (EDT)

imported>Boycool42: Metal

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Metal

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	sparrow although she been with less people then what Samuel and		sparrow although she been with less people then what Samuel and
	Peter have been with.--50000JH 20:57, 20 March 2010 (EDT)		Peter have been with.--50000JH 20:57, 20 March 2010 (EDT)

			== Can terrakinetics manipulate metal? ==

			Metal comes from the earth. "Earthbenders" in ''Avatar: The Last Airbender'' could manipulate metal with concentration. Anyone?--[[User:Boycool42\|Boycool42]] 08:25, 21 March 2010 (EDT)

imported>50000JH: /* I think we should put about the ability that. The more people there are the powerfull the ability becomes. */ new section

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I think we should put about the ability that. The more people there are the powerfull the ability becomes.: new section

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	Regarding the number of specials around when Samuel couldn't use his powers: While there were initially 4 (Sylar, Peter, Emma, Doyle), when Samuel was being loaded into the police car, Hiro, Ando and Claire were there as well. It might, however, be speculative to include that since we didn't see him try to use his powers then (even if common sense would dictate he would probably try to, we can't really assume that).<br> On a similar note, did we ever figure out how the Carnival moves? When Samuel took Tracy there, we didn't see any other EH's around...as such, to say it was anything other than Samuel moving them would be speculation as well, right? Therefore, he was able to use some form of his power (to bring himself and Tracy to the Carnival) when only one other EH was present (similarly, he killed Mohinder and Joseph with less than 4 other EH's around, though that brings into question range and how much of his ability he can use). --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] 15:28, 9 February 2010 (EST)		Regarding the number of specials around when Samuel couldn't use his powers: While there were initially 4 (Sylar, Peter, Emma, Doyle), when Samuel was being loaded into the police car, Hiro, Ando and Claire were there as well. It might, however, be speculative to include that since we didn't see him try to use his powers then (even if common sense would dictate he would probably try to, we can't really assume that).<br> On a similar note, did we ever figure out how the Carnival moves? When Samuel took Tracy there, we didn't see any other EH's around...as such, to say it was anything other than Samuel moving them would be speculation as well, right? Therefore, he was able to use some form of his power (to bring himself and Tracy to the Carnival) when only one other EH was present (similarly, he killed Mohinder and Joseph with less than 4 other EH's around, though that brings into question range and how much of his ability he can use). --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] 15:28, 9 February 2010 (EST)

			== I think we should put about the ability that. The more people there are the powerfull the ability becomes. ==

			The film about Samuel thought that he was special and powerful,
			not because of his ability but may be he was divine or somewhere,
			along those lines but reading A brave new world it is clear more
			people there are the powerful, although we not seen this with
			sparrow although she been with less people then what Samuel and
			Peter have been with.--50000JH 20:57, 20 March 2010 (EDT)

imported>Stevehim: /* Terrakinetics Cannot Draw Off of Terrakinetics */

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Terrakinetics Cannot Draw Off of Terrakinetics

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	==Terrakinetics Cannot Draw Off of Terrakinetics==		==Terrakinetics Cannot Draw Off of Terrakinetics==
	Now, this is just a theory, but I think that terrakinetics cannot grow stronger with the presence of other terrakinetics. When Samuel became powerless in Brave New World, the only special nearby was Peter, who had just gotten his ability. Yes, there was Emma, Sylar, Eric, and Claire, but even with four people, he still should have been able to defend himself.--[[User:ERROR\|ERROR]] 14:11, 9 February 2010 (EST)		Now, this is just a theory, but I think that terrakinetics cannot grow stronger with the presence of other terrakinetics. When Samuel became powerless in Brave New World, the only special nearby was Peter, who had just gotten his ability. Yes, there was Emma, Sylar, Eric, and Claire, but even with four people, he still should have been able to defend himself.--[[User:ERROR\|ERROR]] 14:11, 9 February 2010 (EST)
			* Samuel was using his powers in the presence of another terrakinetic (Peter). He only seemed unable to use them after Hiro/Ando transported the bulk of the EH's away. So I don't think there is any kind of 'negating factor,' (though I will say that the tactics Peter and Samuel used in that battle were pretty poor). As a side point, Claire wasn't there , so it was only Peter, Emma, Doyle and Sylar. When Claire returned, so did Hiro and Ando. --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] 15:31, 9 February 2010 (EST)

	== Four or Seven ==		== Four or Seven ==

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	****Theoretically, if he's able to target and manipulate minute earth particles inside the metal, yes, he'd be able to do it. Toph could do it because she used Earthbending to see the world through vibrations, a seismic sense, so to speak. She was able to use that to pinpoint earth inside metal and use it to bend the non-earth part. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 14:32, 21 March 2010 (EDT)		****Theoretically, if he's able to target and manipulate minute earth particles inside the metal, yes, he'd be able to do it. Toph could do it because she used Earthbending to see the world through vibrations, a seismic sense, so to speak. She was able to use that to pinpoint earth inside metal and use it to bend the non-earth part. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 14:32, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
	*****Samuel doesn't seem to have to pinpoint earth to manipulate it, as evidenced when he levitated multiple rocks in Thanksgiving.--[[User:Boycool42\|Boycool42]] 14:49, 21 March 2010 (EDT)		*****Samuel doesn't seem to have to pinpoint earth to manipulate it, as evidenced when he levitated multiple rocks in Thanksgiving.--[[User:Boycool42\|Boycool42]] 14:49, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
			******In this case, it's minute thing, probably much smaller than the dust he used against Sylar, and the mineral in the ink he used on Lydia. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 15:25, 21 March 2010 (EDT)

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	***So Samuel could do the same?--[[User:Boycool42\|Boycool42]] 14:25, 21 March 2010 (EDT)		***So Samuel could do the same?--[[User:Boycool42\|Boycool42]] 14:25, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
	****Theoretically, if he's able to target and manipulate minute earth particles inside the metal, yes, he'd be able to do it. Toph could do it because she used Earthbending to see the world through vibrations, a seismic sense, so to speak. She was able to use that to pinpoint earth inside metal and use it to bend the non-earth part. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 14:32, 21 March 2010 (EDT)		****Theoretically, if he's able to target and manipulate minute earth particles inside the metal, yes, he'd be able to do it. Toph could do it because she used Earthbending to see the world through vibrations, a seismic sense, so to speak. She was able to use that to pinpoint earth inside metal and use it to bend the non-earth part. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 14:32, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
			*****Samuel doesn't seem to have to pinpoint earth to manipulate it, as evidenced when he levitated multiple rocks in Thanksgiving.--[[User:Boycool42\|Boycool42]] 14:49, 21 March 2010 (EDT)

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	**As someone who is very well versed in that show, Toph doesn't actually manipulates metal, she uses the earthen impurities inside the metal to control it. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 11:45, 21 March 2010 (EDT)		**As someone who is very well versed in that show, Toph doesn't actually manipulates metal, she uses the earthen impurities inside the metal to control it. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 11:45, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
	***So Samuel could do the same?--[[User:Boycool42\|Boycool42]] 14:25, 21 March 2010 (EDT)		***So Samuel could do the same?--[[User:Boycool42\|Boycool42]] 14:25, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
			****Theoretically, if he's able to target and manipulate minute earth particles inside the metal, yes, he'd be able to do it. Toph could do it because she used Earthbending to see the world through vibrations, a seismic sense, so to speak. She was able to use that to pinpoint earth inside metal and use it to bend the non-earth part. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 14:32, 21 March 2010 (EDT)

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	*I don't think so. The metal may come from the earth, but it's not the earth, it's just buried under it. I think terrakinetics are simply movers of dirt/soil/rocks. --[[User:Mc hammark\|mc_hammark]] 10:42, 21 March 2010 (EDT)		*I don't think so. The metal may come from the earth, but it's not the earth, it's just buried under it. I think terrakinetics are simply movers of dirt/soil/rocks. --[[User:Mc hammark\|mc_hammark]] 10:42, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
	**As someone who is very well versed in that show, Toph doesn't actually manipulates metal, she uses the earthen impurities inside the metal to control it. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 11:45, 21 March 2010 (EDT)		**As someone who is very well versed in that show, Toph doesn't actually manipulates metal, she uses the earthen impurities inside the metal to control it. [[User:Intuitive Empath\|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath\|Contributions]] 11:45, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
			***So Samuel could do the same?--[[User:Boycool42\|Boycool42]] 14:25, 21 March 2010 (EDT)