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	*Anyone know offhand what ep it was revealed that Tommy had Arthur's power instead of just Hiro's? I'm guessing it was June 13th P1 or 2, but I don't recall offhand. Thanks. --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] ([[User talk:Stevehim\|talk]]) 01:09, 16 January 2016 (EST)		*Anyone know offhand what ep it was revealed that Tommy had Arthur's power instead of just Hiro's? I'm guessing it was June 13th P1 or 2, but I don't recall offhand. Thanks. --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] ([[User talk:Stevehim\|talk]]) 01:09, 16 January 2016 (EST)
	** I think it was ''[[Episode:June 13th, Part Two\|June 13th, Part Two]]''.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 01:53, 16 January 2016 (EST)		** I think it was ''[[Episode:June 13th, Part Two\|June 13th, Part Two]]''.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 01:53, 16 January 2016 (EST)
			*** It was and his power is more of a cross between Arthur's and Peter's second power. As for Tommy's current powers it ''is'' Hiro's powers as confirmed several times with things such as him being able to time travel and freeze time. Maybe because of the nature of his own power he has a different effect or something??? Hiro definitely still had the original effect when he used his powers. Also, its possible the writers gave him that effect to keep up the surprise of him having Hiro's powers. Its also possible that its due to what Anne said: that Tommy has Hiro's powers, but can do so much more with them, whatever that means. For example, when he teleported Joanne's gun, he was touching her not the gun and I think Hiro needed direct contact for his power to work. He also couldn't selectively teleport things like that.--[[User:WarGrowlmon18\|WarGrowlmon18]] ([[User talk:WarGrowlmon18\|talk]]) 14:11, 16 January 2016 (EST)

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	*Anyone know offhand what ep it was revealed that Tommy had Arthur's power instead of just Hiro's? I'm guessing it was June 13th P1 or 2, but I don't recall offhand. Thanks. --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] ([[User talk:Stevehim\|talk]]) 01:09, 16 January 2016 (EST)		*Anyone know offhand what ep it was revealed that Tommy had Arthur's power instead of just Hiro's? I'm guessing it was June 13th P1 or 2, but I don't recall offhand. Thanks. --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] ([[User talk:Stevehim\|talk]]) 01:09, 16 January 2016 (EST)
			** I think it was ''[[Episode:June 13th, Part Two\|June 13th, Part Two]]''.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 01:53, 16 January 2016 (EST)

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	Teleportation has "smoke effect" when use, but space-time manipulation doesn't.--[[User:Masterofgravity\|Masterofgravity]]		Teleportation has "smoke effect" when use, but space-time manipulation doesn't.--[[User:Masterofgravity\|Masterofgravity]]
	* It's important to remember that the effect is not the ability. We have seen several people use the same ability, but with various effects. Flint and Meredith Gordon are a great example -- the same ability, but even the color of their abilities were different. Farah's invisibility has a different effect than Claude's. Ultimately, Tommy absorbed Hiro's ability of space-time manipulation, even if the effect looks different. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 16:27, 8 November 2015 (EST)		* It's important to remember that the effect is not the ability. We have seen several people use the same ability, but with various effects. Flint and Meredith Gordon are a great example -- the same ability, but even the color of their abilities were different. Farah's invisibility has a different effect than Claude's. Ultimately, Tommy absorbed Hiro's ability of space-time manipulation, even if the effect looks different. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 16:27, 8 November 2015 (EST)

			*Anyone know offhand what ep it was revealed that Tommy had Arthur's power instead of just Hiro's? I'm guessing it was June 13th P1 or 2, but I don't recall offhand. Thanks. --[[User:Stevehim\|Stevehim]] ([[User talk:Stevehim\|talk]]) 01:09, 16 January 2016 (EST)

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	Nathan would had been born, and travelled back in time, in the episode " Brave New World.", which at the same time, Hiro would had been trapped in "EverNow" which, he still had his ability, we know this from, "Game over" the ability, we see Nathan use from "Brave New World to "Game over" could not be Hiro's, or otherwise, he had to find someone else with, "Matt Parkman Junior's ability" to travel back from 1999 to the position he be in to be imported into EverNow in a "Brave New World", Hiro said, in "June 13th, part 1" "he hasn't time travelled for a long time." why would Hiro lie about that, it would be out of character to him. Remember in " June 13th, Part one." We saw, two versions of the same character, Hiro and Noah, in " Brave New World" there was only one.		Nathan would had been born, and travelled back in time, in the episode " Brave New World.", which at the same time, Hiro would had been trapped in "EverNow" which, he still had his ability, we know this from, "Game over" the ability, we see Nathan use from "Brave New World to "Game over" could not be Hiro's, or otherwise, he had to find someone else with, "Matt Parkman Junior's ability" to travel back from 1999 to the position he be in to be imported into EverNow in a "Brave New World", Hiro said, in "June 13th, part 1" "he hasn't time travelled for a long time." why would Hiro lie about that, it would be out of character to him. Remember in " June 13th, Part one." We saw, two versions of the same character, Hiro and Noah, in " Brave New World" there was only one.
	Two Timelines would had been recreated, one where was trapped, and the other, where he is not.		Two Timelines would had been recreated, one where was trapped, and the other, where he is not.
	Tommy didn't know himself, he could manipulate time. --[[User:Masterofgravity\|Masterofgravity]] ([[User talk:Masterofgravity\|talk]]) 09:36, 27 November 2015 (EST)		Tommy didn't know himself, he could manipulate time. --[[User:Masterofgravity\|Masterofgravity]] ([[User talk:Masterofgravity\|talk]]) 09:36, 27 November 2015 (EST)
	* There is no timeline differences with being trapped in the game. During the Odessa Explosion there was 3 Hiro. Original Hiro, trapped in the game. 1 year older Hiro, got out of the game and time traveled to that date. 17 year older Hiro, when 1 year older Hiro traveled back with Tommy and stuck. Timeline differences were about Quentin's side (Noah changed it by shooting Erica) and Rene (again Noah. by using Caspar's ability to make himself forget, he made sure Rene was out of that secret, so Rene did not try to kill Noah in order to protect Tommy&Malina) --[[User:Sekobro\|Sekobro]] ([[User talk:Sekobro\|talk]]) 10:35, 27 November 2015 (EST)		* There is no timeline differences with being trapped in the game. During the Odessa Explosion there was 3 Hiro. Original Hiro, trapped in the game. 1 year older Hiro, got out of the game and time traveled to that date. 17 year older Hiro, when 1 year older Hiro traveled back with Tommy and stuck. Timeline differences were about Quentin's side (Noah changed it by shooting Erica) and Rene (again Noah. by using Caspar's ability to make himself forget, he made sure Rene was out of that secret, so Rene did not try to kill Noah in order to protect Tommy&Malina) --[[User:Sekobro\|Sekobro]] ([[User talk:Sekobro\|talk]]) 10:35, 27 November 2015 (EST)
			** What Sekobro said. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 13:07, 27 November 2015 (EST)

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	Two Timelines would had been recreated, one where was trapped, and the other, where he is not.		Two Timelines would had been recreated, one where was trapped, and the other, where he is not.
	Tommy didn't know himself, he could manipulate time. --[[User:Masterofgravity\|Masterofgravity]] ([[User talk:Masterofgravity\|talk]]) 09:36, 27 November 2015 (EST)		Tommy didn't know himself, he could manipulate time. --[[User:Masterofgravity\|Masterofgravity]] ([[User talk:Masterofgravity\|talk]]) 09:36, 27 November 2015 (EST)
			* There is no timeline differences with being trapped in the game. During the Odessa Explosion there was 3 Hiro. Original Hiro, trapped in the game. 1 year older Hiro, got out of the game and time traveled to that date. 17 year older Hiro, when 1 year older Hiro traveled back with Tommy and stuck. Timeline differences were about Quentin's side (Noah changed it by shooting Erica) and Rene (again Noah. by using Caspar's ability to make himself forget, he made sure Rene was out of that secret, so Rene did not try to kill Noah in order to protect Tommy&Malina) --[[User:Sekobro\|Sekobro]] ([[User talk:Sekobro\|talk]]) 10:35, 27 November 2015 (EST)

imported>Masterofgravity: /* Hiro's Time/Space Manipulation be his third absorbed ability */ new section

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	So [[Anne Clark]]'s blood type is an O and Tommy's is AB (the only one a child of an O can't have), which means [[Claire]] also does not have O, which limits the number of people who could be [[blood recipients]] from her. -[[User:Level\|Lөv]][[User talk:Level\|ө]][[Special:Contributions/Level\|l]] 19:36, 30 October 2015 (EDT)		So [[Anne Clark]]'s blood type is an O and Tommy's is AB (the only one a child of an O can't have), which means [[Claire]] also does not have O, which limits the number of people who could be [[blood recipients]] from her. -[[User:Level\|Lөv]][[User talk:Level\|ө]][[Special:Contributions/Level\|l]] 19:36, 30 October 2015 (EDT)
	* I think that would likely be correct, though it might depend on the dosage. Claire is not a typical example of a blood type donor as she has the ability of [[rapid cell regeneration]]. Recall that because of her ability, Claire's blood was found useful for creating a cure for the [[shanti virus]].--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 22:27, 30 October 2015 (EDT)		* I think that would likely be correct, though it might depend on the dosage. Claire is not a typical example of a blood type donor as she has the ability of [[rapid cell regeneration]]. Recall that because of her ability, Claire's blood was found useful for creating a cure for the [[shanti virus]].--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 22:27, 30 October 2015 (EDT)

			== Hiro's Time/Space Manipulation be his third absorbed ability ==

			Nathan would had been born, and travelled back in time, in the episode " Brave New World.", which at the same time, Hiro would had been trapped in "EverNow" which, he still had his ability, we know this from, "Game over" the ability, we see Nathan use from "Brave New World to "Game over" could not be Hiro's, or otherwise, he had to find someone else with, "Matt Parkman Junior's ability" to travel back from 1999 to the position he be in to be imported into EverNow in a "Brave New World", Hiro said, in "June 13th, part 1" "he hasn't time travelled for a long time." why would Hiro lie about that, it would be out of character to him. Remember in " June 13th, Part one." We saw, two versions of the same character, Hiro and Noah, in " Brave New World" there was only one.
			Two Timelines would had been recreated, one where was trapped, and the other, where he is not.
			Tommy didn't know himself, he could manipulate time. --[[User:Masterofgravity\|Masterofgravity]] ([[User talk:Masterofgravity\|talk]]) 09:36, 27 November 2015 (EST)

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	Teleportation has "smoke effect" when use, but space-time manipulation doesn't.--[[User:Masterofgravity\|Masterofgravity]]		Teleportation has "smoke effect" when use, but space-time manipulation doesn't.--[[User:Masterofgravity\|Masterofgravity]]
			* It's important to remember that the effect is not the ability. We have seen several people use the same ability, but with various effects. Flint and Meredith Gordon are a great example -- the same ability, but even the color of their abilities were different. Farah's invisibility has a different effect than Claude's. Ultimately, Tommy absorbed Hiro's ability of space-time manipulation, even if the effect looks different. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 16:27, 8 November 2015 (EST)

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	:He lived with Tommy for 16 years, but he never saw him regenerate (kids fall and get hurt). [[User:Sandubadear\|Sandubadear]] ([[User talk:Sandubadear\|talk]]) 07:18, 8 November 2015 (EST)		:He lived with Tommy for 16 years, but he never saw him regenerate (kids fall and get hurt). [[User:Sandubadear\|Sandubadear]] ([[User talk:Sandubadear\|talk]]) 07:18, 8 November 2015 (EST)

	Teleportation has "smoke effect" when use, but space-time manipulation doesn't.--[[User:Masterofgravity\|Masterofgravity]] ~~([[User talk:Masterofgravity\|talk]]) 08:49, 8 November 2015 (EST)~~		Teleportation has "smoke effect" when use, but space-time manipulation doesn't.--[[User:Masterofgravity\|Masterofgravity]]

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	******* I'm only half joking. I don't ever read spoilers for other shows, but I always do for ''Heroes''. It somehow helps me enjoy the show (and the universe) even more. Plus, it's a short book, so it won't take long to read. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 10:59, 25 September 2015 (EDT)		******* I'm only half joking. I don't ever read spoilers for other shows, but I always do for ''Heroes''. It somehow helps me enjoy the show (and the universe) even more. Plus, it's a short book, so it won't take long to read. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 10:59, 25 September 2015 (EDT)

	==Tommy's ability==
	After ''Odessa'', it's now pretty clear what Tommy's ability is: to send people or objects to whatever place he's thinking about. When I try to put a name to this ability, the first word I think of is '''Transportation'''. I think that word would be perfect for Tommy's ability, especially as its definition is "a means of conveying people or goods from place to place", and there have already been [[Transportation#Transportation\|two other evos]] listed as having this ability in the original series. What do you think? -[[User:Kon\|Kon]] ([[User talk:Kon\|talk]]) 10:33, 25 September 2015 (EDT)		After ''Odessa'', it's now pretty clear what Tommy's ability is: to send people or objects to whatever place he's thinking about. When I try to put a name to this ability, the first word I think of is '''Transportation'''. I think that word would be perfect for Tommy's ability, especially as its definition is "a means of conveying people or goods from place to place", and there have already been [[Transportation#Transportation\|two other evos]] listed as having this ability in the original series. What do you think? -[[User:Kon\|Kon]] ([[User talk:Kon\|talk]]) 10:33, 25 September 2015 (EDT)
	* We have to be careful of taking the word "transportation" that was used in [[Chandra's journal]] and applying it to what Tommy does. It may or may not be the same thing. I'm inclined to say that they are the same thing, but I'm not positive. (It's certainly better than listing him under [[teleportation]], which is about moving yourself, not other objects. That's where Tommy is now, and shouldn't be.) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 11:03, 25 September 2015 (EDT)		* We have to be careful of taking the word "transportation" that was used in [[Chandra's journal]] and applying it to what Tommy does. It may or may not be the same thing. I'm inclined to say that they are the same thing, but I'm not positive. (It's certainly better than listing him under [[teleportation]], which is about moving yourself, not other objects. That's where Tommy is now, and shouldn't be.) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 11:03, 25 September 2015 (EDT)