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imported>Hardvice at 05:41, 21 September 2007

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imported>Hardvice at 05:41, 21 September 2007

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	******* I actually got it to behave by putting the subst: in its own set of includeonly tags, but only by closing and reopening the overall includeonly tags around it. Bizarre.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:35, 21 September 2007 (EDT)		******* I actually got it to behave by putting the subst: in its own set of includeonly tags, but only by closing and reopening the overall includeonly tags around it. Bizarre.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:35, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
	******** Very nifty, Hardvice! <sup>5</sup> So there is more than one way to do it, then.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 01:37, 21 September 2007 (EDT)		******** Very nifty, Hardvice! <sup>5</sup> So there is more than one way to do it, then.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 01:37, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
			********* There are at least a half-dozen ways to get a template to write in a subst. Unfortunately, most of them don't seem to work with preloaded pages. And I still have no idea ''why'' this one works. It really makes no sense that <noinclude>text </noinclude><noinclude>substitution </noinclude><noinclude>text</noinclude> is different from <noinclude>text substitution text</noinclude>, but hey.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:41, 21 September 2007 (EDT)

imported>MiamiVolts: /* Link template */ High 5, Hardvice :)

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Link template: High 5, Hardvice :)

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	****** The trick is that they make subst itself a template that returns "{{subst:"--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 01:32, 21 September 2007 (EDT)		****** The trick is that they make subst itself a template that returns "{{subst:"--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 01:32, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
	******* I actually got it to behave by putting the subst: in its own set of includeonly tags, but only by closing and reopening the overall includeonly tags around it. Bizarre.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:35, 21 September 2007 (EDT)		******* I actually got it to behave by putting the subst: in its own set of includeonly tags, but only by closing and reopening the overall includeonly tags around it. Bizarre.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:35, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
			******** Very nifty, Hardvice! <sup>5</sup> So there is more than one way to do it, then.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 01:37, 21 September 2007 (EDT)

imported>Hardvice at 05:35, 21 September 2007

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	***** The trouble is that preloaded pages behave oddly with noinclude and includeonly tags (same reason we can't add any cats, even in noinclude tags, to preload pages). I tried all three subst: tricks I know and none worked, but I'll take a look at that help page.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:28, 21 September 2007 (EDT)		***** The trouble is that preloaded pages behave oddly with noinclude and includeonly tags (same reason we can't add any cats, even in noinclude tags, to preload pages). I tried all three subst: tricks I know and none worked, but I'll take a look at that help page.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:28, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
	****** The trick is that they make subst itself a template that returns "{{subst:"--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 01:32, 21 September 2007 (EDT)		****** The trick is that they make subst itself a template that returns "{{subst:"--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 01:32, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
			******* I actually got it to behave by putting the subst: in its own set of includeonly tags, but only by closing and reopening the overall includeonly tags around it. Bizarre.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:35, 21 September 2007 (EDT)

imported>MiamiVolts: /* Link template */ The trick is...

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Link template: The trick is...

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	**** Check out [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Recursive_conversion_of_wikitext here]. I think they say how to do optional substitution, though I'm still learning about how it works. Something like <nowiki>{{subst:subst}}PAGENAME}}</nowiki> should work for preloading, right? At least that's what the help says...--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 01:25, 21 September 2007 (EDT)		**** Check out [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Recursive_conversion_of_wikitext here]. I think they say how to do optional substitution, though I'm still learning about how it works. Something like <nowiki>{{subst:subst}}PAGENAME}}</nowiki> should work for preloading, right? At least that's what the help says...--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 01:25, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
	***** The trouble is that preloaded pages behave oddly with noinclude and includeonly tags (same reason we can't add any cats, even in noinclude tags, to preload pages). I tried all three subst: tricks I know and none worked, but I'll take a look at that help page.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:28, 21 September 2007 (EDT)		***** The trouble is that preloaded pages behave oddly with noinclude and includeonly tags (same reason we can't add any cats, even in noinclude tags, to preload pages). I tried all three subst: tricks I know and none worked, but I'll take a look at that help page.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:28, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
			****** The trick is that they make subst itself a template that returns "{{subst:"--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 01:32, 21 September 2007 (EDT)

imported>Hardvice at 05:28, 21 September 2007

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	*** In the end, I had to remove the subst: logic. It works fine when you subst the template, but not when you preload it. IIRC we ran into the same problem when we added the Welcome button. Ah well, no biggie.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:17, 21 September 2007 (EDT)		*** In the end, I had to remove the subst: logic. It works fine when you subst the template, but not when you preload it. IIRC we ran into the same problem when we added the Welcome button. Ah well, no biggie.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:17, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
	**** Check out [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Recursive_conversion_of_wikitext here]. I think they say how to do optional substitution, though I'm still learning about how it works. Something like <nowiki>{{subst:subst}}PAGENAME}}</nowiki> should work for preloading, right? At least that's what the help says...--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 01:25, 21 September 2007 (EDT)		**** Check out [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Recursive_conversion_of_wikitext here]. I think they say how to do optional substitution, though I'm still learning about how it works. Something like <nowiki>{{subst:subst}}PAGENAME}}</nowiki> should work for preloading, right? At least that's what the help says...--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 01:25, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
			***** The trouble is that preloaded pages behave oddly with noinclude and includeonly tags (same reason we can't add any cats, even in noinclude tags, to preload pages). I tried all three subst: tricks I know and none worked, but I'll take a look at that help page.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:28, 21 September 2007 (EDT)

imported>MiamiVolts: /* Link template */ fix indent

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Link template: fix indent

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	*** All good to go. This ought to be cake, really, since we're just cnp-ing from the existing articles.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:06, 21 September 2007 (EDT)		*** All good to go. This ought to be cake, really, since we're just cnp-ing from the existing articles.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:06, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
	*** In the end, I had to remove the subst: logic. It works fine when you subst the template, but not when you preload it. IIRC we ran into the same problem when we added the Welcome button. Ah well, no biggie.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:17, 21 September 2007 (EDT)		*** In the end, I had to remove the subst: logic. It works fine when you subst the template, but not when you preload it. IIRC we ran into the same problem when we added the Welcome button. Ah well, no biggie.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:17, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
	* Check out [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Recursive_conversion_of_wikitext here]. I think they say how to do optional substitution, though I'm still learning about how it works. Something like <nowiki>{{subst:subst}}PAGENAME}}</nowiki> should work for preloading, right? At least that's what the help says...--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 01:25, 21 September 2007 (EDT)		**** Check out [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Recursive_conversion_of_wikitext here]. I think they say how to do optional substitution, though I'm still learning about how it works. Something like <nowiki>{{subst:subst}}PAGENAME}}</nowiki> should work for preloading, right? At least that's what the help says...--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 01:25, 21 September 2007 (EDT)

imported>MiamiVolts: /* Link template */ Check out this help... weird code, but maybe you'll have better luck understanding it.

2007-09-21T05:25:05Z

Link template: Check out this help... weird code, but maybe you'll have better luck understanding it.

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	*** All good to go. This ought to be cake, really, since we're just cnp-ing from the existing articles.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:06, 21 September 2007 (EDT)		*** All good to go. This ought to be cake, really, since we're just cnp-ing from the existing articles.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:06, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
	*** In the end, I had to remove the subst: logic. It works fine when you subst the template, but not when you preload it. IIRC we ran into the same problem when we added the Welcome button. Ah well, no biggie.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:17, 21 September 2007 (EDT)		*** In the end, I had to remove the subst: logic. It works fine when you subst the template, but not when you preload it. IIRC we ran into the same problem when we added the Welcome button. Ah well, no biggie.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:17, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
			* Check out [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Recursive_conversion_of_wikitext here]. I think they say how to do optional substitution, though I'm still learning about how it works. Something like <nowiki>{{subst:subst}}PAGENAME}}</nowiki> should work for preloading, right? At least that's what the help says...--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 01:25, 21 September 2007 (EDT)

imported>Hardvice at 05:17, 21 September 2007

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	** Yeah, good call. It had an extraneous line break that was breaking the formatting, but I took care of it. Now to get it to subst properly...--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:01, 21 September 2007 (EDT)		** Yeah, good call. It had an extraneous line break that was breaking the formatting, but I took care of it. Now to get it to subst properly...--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:01, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
	*** All good to go. This ought to be cake, really, since we're just cnp-ing from the existing articles.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:06, 21 September 2007 (EDT)		*** All good to go. This ought to be cake, really, since we're just cnp-ing from the existing articles.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:06, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
			*** In the end, I had to remove the subst: logic. It works fine when you subst the template, but not when you preload it. IIRC we ran into the same problem when we added the Welcome button. Ah well, no biggie.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:17, 21 September 2007 (EDT)

imported>Hardvice at 05:06, 21 September 2007

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	* To make things easier, since some of the theory base articles don't exist and don't need to exist, I added a link template which returns a link or just the text specified. Perhaps this template can be used elsewhere to simplify some of the other templates?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 00:59, 21 September 2007 (EDT)		* To make things easier, since some of the theory base articles don't exist and don't need to exist, I added a link template which returns a link or just the text specified. Perhaps this template can be used elsewhere to simplify some of the other templates?--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 00:59, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
	** Yeah, good call. It had an extraneous line break that was breaking the formatting, but I took care of it. Now to get it to subst properly...--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:01, 21 September 2007 (EDT)		** Yeah, good call. It had an extraneous line break that was breaking the formatting, but I took care of it. Now to get it to subst properly...--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:01, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
			*** All good to go. This ought to be cake, really, since we're just cnp-ing from the existing articles.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:06, 21 September 2007 (EDT)

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	******* I actually got it to behave by putting the subst: in its own set of includeonly tags, but only by closing and reopening the overall includeonly tags around it. Bizarre.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:35, 21 September 2007 (EDT)		******* I actually got it to behave by putting the subst: in its own set of includeonly tags, but only by closing and reopening the overall includeonly tags around it. Bizarre.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:35, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
	******** Very nifty, Hardvice! <sup>5</sup> So there is more than one way to do it, then.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 01:37, 21 September 2007 (EDT)		******** Very nifty, Hardvice! <sup>5</sup> So there is more than one way to do it, then.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 01:37, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
			********* There are at least a half-dozen ways to get a template to write in a subst. Unfortunately, most of them don't seem to work with preloaded pages. And I still have no idea ''why'' this one works. It really makes no sense that <noinclude>text </noinclude><noinclude>substitution </noinclude><noinclude>text</noinclude> is different from <noinclude>text substitution text</noinclude>, but hey.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:41, 21 September 2007 (EDT)

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	****** The trick is that they make subst itself a template that returns "{{subst:"--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 01:32, 21 September 2007 (EDT)		****** The trick is that they make subst itself a template that returns "{{subst:"--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 01:32, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
	******* I actually got it to behave by putting the subst: in its own set of includeonly tags, but only by closing and reopening the overall includeonly tags around it. Bizarre.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:35, 21 September 2007 (EDT)		******* I actually got it to behave by putting the subst: in its own set of includeonly tags, but only by closing and reopening the overall includeonly tags around it. Bizarre.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:35, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
			******** Very nifty, Hardvice! <sup>5</sup> So there is more than one way to do it, then.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 01:37, 21 September 2007 (EDT)

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	***** The trouble is that preloaded pages behave oddly with noinclude and includeonly tags (same reason we can't add any cats, even in noinclude tags, to preload pages). I tried all three subst: tricks I know and none worked, but I'll take a look at that help page.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:28, 21 September 2007 (EDT)		***** The trouble is that preloaded pages behave oddly with noinclude and includeonly tags (same reason we can't add any cats, even in noinclude tags, to preload pages). I tried all three subst: tricks I know and none worked, but I'll take a look at that help page.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:28, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
	****** The trick is that they make subst itself a template that returns "{{subst:"--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 01:32, 21 September 2007 (EDT)		****** The trick is that they make subst itself a template that returns "{{subst:"--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 01:32, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
			******* I actually got it to behave by putting the subst: in its own set of includeonly tags, but only by closing and reopening the overall includeonly tags around it. Bizarre.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:35, 21 September 2007 (EDT)

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	**** Check out [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Recursive_conversion_of_wikitext here]. I think they say how to do optional substitution, though I'm still learning about how it works. Something like <nowiki>{{subst:subst}}PAGENAME}}</nowiki> should work for preloading, right? At least that's what the help says...--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 01:25, 21 September 2007 (EDT)		**** Check out [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Recursive_conversion_of_wikitext here]. I think they say how to do optional substitution, though I'm still learning about how it works. Something like <nowiki>{{subst:subst}}PAGENAME}}</nowiki> should work for preloading, right? At least that's what the help says...--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 01:25, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
	***** The trouble is that preloaded pages behave oddly with noinclude and includeonly tags (same reason we can't add any cats, even in noinclude tags, to preload pages). I tried all three subst: tricks I know and none worked, but I'll take a look at that help page.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:28, 21 September 2007 (EDT)		***** The trouble is that preloaded pages behave oddly with noinclude and includeonly tags (same reason we can't add any cats, even in noinclude tags, to preload pages). I tried all three subst: tricks I know and none worked, but I'll take a look at that help page.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:28, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
			****** The trick is that they make subst itself a template that returns "{{subst:"--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 01:32, 21 September 2007 (EDT)

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	*** In the end, I had to remove the subst: logic. It works fine when you subst the template, but not when you preload it. IIRC we ran into the same problem when we added the Welcome button. Ah well, no biggie.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:17, 21 September 2007 (EDT)		*** In the end, I had to remove the subst: logic. It works fine when you subst the template, but not when you preload it. IIRC we ran into the same problem when we added the Welcome button. Ah well, no biggie.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:17, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
	**** Check out [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Recursive_conversion_of_wikitext here]. I think they say how to do optional substitution, though I'm still learning about how it works. Something like <nowiki>{{subst:subst}}PAGENAME}}</nowiki> should work for preloading, right? At least that's what the help says...--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 01:25, 21 September 2007 (EDT)		**** Check out [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Recursive_conversion_of_wikitext here]. I think they say how to do optional substitution, though I'm still learning about how it works. Something like <nowiki>{{subst:subst}}PAGENAME}}</nowiki> should work for preloading, right? At least that's what the help says...--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 01:25, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
			***** The trouble is that preloaded pages behave oddly with noinclude and includeonly tags (same reason we can't add any cats, even in noinclude tags, to preload pages). I tried all three subst: tricks I know and none worked, but I'll take a look at that help page.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 01:28, 21 September 2007 (EDT)