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imported>Orne: /* Margin */ comment

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	*** Never mind, I got it. I changed it so that the test only filled in the word "left" or "right", and now it seems to work.		*** Never mind, I got it. I changed it so that the test only filled in the word "left" or "right", and now it seems to work.
	**** Never mind some more, I was using IF instead of IFEQ.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:20, 12 February 2007 (EST)		**** Never mind some more, I was using IF instead of IFEQ.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:20, 12 February 2007 (EST)
			** Sorry guys, I'm in the midst of some settlements projects here at work. I'm going to be busy till the end of the month I think. --[[User:Orne\|Orne]] 17:09, 12 February 2007 (EST)

imported>Hardvice: sp

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	***********Don't get me wrong, I really like it (heck, I made it!) I just can't help but think that we're making the quote problem ''even worse'' if we don't look at using it to eliminate Memorable Quotes from at least most pages. And I think an episode summary with one or two floated quotes and one or two floated images (and no quotes section) would be pretty slick looking.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:42, 12 February 2007 (EST)		***********Don't get me wrong, I really like it (heck, I made it!) I just can't help but think that we're making the quote problem ''even worse'' if we don't look at using it to eliminate Memorable Quotes from at least most pages. And I think an episode summary with one or two floated quotes and one or two floated images (and no quotes section) would be pretty slick looking.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:42, 12 February 2007 (EST)
	************Emphasis on the "one or two". We're going to have to enforce some discipline in the use of floating quotes. They look good, but it would be easy to over-do them. Same goes for a lot of things, I suppose. We've allowed people to be pretty free with quotes and images so far, but now we're most of the way through the first season, and the quotes and images are starting to pile up. Maybe we should start a [[Article formatting policies]] page with accompanying discussion? --[[User:Ted C\|Ted C]] 16:50, 12 February 2007 (EST)		************Emphasis on the "one or two". We're going to have to enforce some discipline in the use of floating quotes. They look good, but it would be easy to over-do them. Same goes for a lot of things, I suppose. We've allowed people to be pretty free with quotes and images so far, but now we're most of the way through the first season, and the quotes and images are starting to pile up. Maybe we should start a [[Article formatting policies]] page with accompanying discussion? --[[User:Ted C\|Ted C]] 16:50, 12 February 2007 (EST)
	*************Probably a good idea. But of course we'll just be trading one problem for another: let's say we limit episodes to two images (other than the lead image and the ~~titel~~ shot) and two quotes. People will spend all their time edit warring which two images and which two quotes. There will be six-page discussions about the relative merits of pictures of Claire getting a manicure versus pictures of Hiro doing something goofy. I just don't see a solution that doesn't cause more problems.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:55, 12 February 2007 (EST)		*************Probably a good idea. But of course we'll just be trading one problem for another: let's say we limit episodes to two images (other than the lead image and the title shot) and two quotes. People will spend all their time edit warring which two images and which two quotes. There will be six-page discussions about the relative merits of pictures of Claire getting a manicure versus pictures of Hiro doing something goofy. I just don't see a solution that doesn't cause more problems.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:55, 12 February 2007 (EST)
	== Margin ==		== Margin ==
	Okay, here's the margin logic in the template:		Okay, here's the margin logic in the template:

imported>Hardvice at 21:55, 12 February 2007

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	***********Don't get me wrong, I really like it (heck, I made it!) I just can't help but think that we're making the quote problem ''even worse'' if we don't look at using it to eliminate Memorable Quotes from at least most pages. And I think an episode summary with one or two floated quotes and one or two floated images (and no quotes section) would be pretty slick looking.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:42, 12 February 2007 (EST)		***********Don't get me wrong, I really like it (heck, I made it!) I just can't help but think that we're making the quote problem ''even worse'' if we don't look at using it to eliminate Memorable Quotes from at least most pages. And I think an episode summary with one or two floated quotes and one or two floated images (and no quotes section) would be pretty slick looking.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:42, 12 February 2007 (EST)
	************Emphasis on the "one or two". We're going to have to enforce some discipline in the use of floating quotes. They look good, but it would be easy to over-do them. Same goes for a lot of things, I suppose. We've allowed people to be pretty free with quotes and images so far, but now we're most of the way through the first season, and the quotes and images are starting to pile up. Maybe we should start a [[Article formatting policies]] page with accompanying discussion? --[[User:Ted C\|Ted C]] 16:50, 12 February 2007 (EST)		************Emphasis on the "one or two". We're going to have to enforce some discipline in the use of floating quotes. They look good, but it would be easy to over-do them. Same goes for a lot of things, I suppose. We've allowed people to be pretty free with quotes and images so far, but now we're most of the way through the first season, and the quotes and images are starting to pile up. Maybe we should start a [[Article formatting policies]] page with accompanying discussion? --[[User:Ted C\|Ted C]] 16:50, 12 February 2007 (EST)
			*************Probably a good idea. But of course we'll just be trading one problem for another: let's say we limit episodes to two images (other than the lead image and the titel shot) and two quotes. People will spend all their time edit warring which two images and which two quotes. There will be six-page discussions about the relative merits of pictures of Claire getting a manicure versus pictures of Hiro doing something goofy. I just don't see a solution that doesn't cause more problems.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:55, 12 February 2007 (EST)

	== Margin ==		== Margin ==
	Okay, here's the margin logic in the template:		Okay, here's the margin logic in the template:

imported>Ted C: /* Formatting of articles */

2007-02-12T21:50:07Z

Formatting of articles

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	**********Unquestionably, we don't '''need''' it. The question is whether we '''want''' it. Is it a useful option for pages? I think that it can be valuable for pages where you really want a particular quote to stand out. I don't see it as a good replacement for a "Memorable Quotes" section where you want to have multiple quotes on a page, all more-or-less equally relevant. --[[User:Ted C\|Ted C]] 16:33, 12 February 2007 (EST)		**********Unquestionably, we don't '''need''' it. The question is whether we '''want''' it. Is it a useful option for pages? I think that it can be valuable for pages where you really want a particular quote to stand out. I don't see it as a good replacement for a "Memorable Quotes" section where you want to have multiple quotes on a page, all more-or-less equally relevant. --[[User:Ted C\|Ted C]] 16:33, 12 February 2007 (EST)
	***********Don't get me wrong, I really like it (heck, I made it!) I just can't help but think that we're making the quote problem ''even worse'' if we don't look at using it to eliminate Memorable Quotes from at least most pages. And I think an episode summary with one or two floated quotes and one or two floated images (and no quotes section) would be pretty slick looking.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:42, 12 February 2007 (EST)		***********Don't get me wrong, I really like it (heck, I made it!) I just can't help but think that we're making the quote problem ''even worse'' if we don't look at using it to eliminate Memorable Quotes from at least most pages. And I think an episode summary with one or two floated quotes and one or two floated images (and no quotes section) would be pretty slick looking.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:42, 12 February 2007 (EST)
			************Emphasis on the "one or two". We're going to have to enforce some discipline in the use of floating quotes. They look good, but it would be easy to over-do them. Same goes for a lot of things, I suppose. We've allowed people to be pretty free with quotes and images so far, but now we're most of the way through the first season, and the quotes and images are starting to pile up. Maybe we should start a [[Article formatting policies]] page with accompanying discussion? --[[User:Ted C\|Ted C]] 16:50, 12 February 2007 (EST)

	== Margin ==		== Margin ==
	Okay, here's the margin logic in the template:		Okay, here's the margin logic in the template:

imported>Hardvice at 21:44, 12 February 2007

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	*********The context of the discussion that spawned it was a potential replacement for memorable quotes, though. Otherwise, I don't think we need it at all.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:30, 12 February 2007 (EST)		*********The context of the discussion that spawned it was a potential replacement for memorable quotes, though. Otherwise, I don't think we need it at all.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:30, 12 February 2007 (EST)
	**********Unquestionably, we don't '''need''' it. The question is whether we '''want''' it. Is it a useful option for pages? I think that it can be valuable for pages where you really want a particular quote to stand out. I don't see it as a good replacement for a "Memorable Quotes" section where you want to have multiple quotes on a page, all more-or-less equally relevant. --[[User:Ted C\|Ted C]] 16:33, 12 February 2007 (EST)		**********Unquestionably, we don't '''need''' it. The question is whether we '''want''' it. Is it a useful option for pages? I think that it can be valuable for pages where you really want a particular quote to stand out. I don't see it as a good replacement for a "Memorable Quotes" section where you want to have multiple quotes on a page, all more-or-less equally relevant. --[[User:Ted C\|Ted C]] 16:33, 12 February 2007 (EST)
	***********Don't get me wrong, I really like it (heck, I made it!) I just can't help but think that we're making the quote problem ''even worse'' if we don't look at using it to eliminate Memorable Quotes from at least most pages.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:42, 12 February 2007 (EST)		***********Don't get me wrong, I really like it (heck, I made it!) I just can't help but think that we're making the quote problem ''even worse'' if we don't look at using it to eliminate Memorable Quotes from at least most pages. And I think an episode summary with one or two floated quotes and one or two floated images (and no quotes section) would be pretty slick looking.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:42, 12 February 2007 (EST)
	== Margin ==		== Margin ==
	Okay, here's the margin logic in the template:		Okay, here's the margin logic in the template:

imported>Hardvice at 21:42, 12 February 2007

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	*********The context of the discussion that spawned it was a potential replacement for memorable quotes, though. Otherwise, I don't think we need it at all.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:30, 12 February 2007 (EST)		*********The context of the discussion that spawned it was a potential replacement for memorable quotes, though. Otherwise, I don't think we need it at all.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:30, 12 February 2007 (EST)
	**********Unquestionably, we don't '''need''' it. The question is whether we '''want''' it. Is it a useful option for pages? I think that it can be valuable for pages where you really want a particular quote to stand out. I don't see it as a good replacement for a "Memorable Quotes" section where you want to have multiple quotes on a page, all more-or-less equally relevant. --[[User:Ted C\|Ted C]] 16:33, 12 February 2007 (EST)		**********Unquestionably, we don't '''need''' it. The question is whether we '''want''' it. Is it a useful option for pages? I think that it can be valuable for pages where you really want a particular quote to stand out. I don't see it as a good replacement for a "Memorable Quotes" section where you want to have multiple quotes on a page, all more-or-less equally relevant. --[[User:Ted C\|Ted C]] 16:33, 12 February 2007 (EST)
			***********Don't get me wrong, I really like it (heck, I made it!) I just can't help but think that we're making the quote problem ''even worse'' if we don't look at using it to eliminate Memorable Quotes from at least most pages.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:42, 12 February 2007 (EST)

	== Margin ==		== Margin ==
	Okay, here's the margin logic in the template:		Okay, here's the margin logic in the template:

imported>Ted C: /* Formatting of articles */

2007-02-12T21:33:59Z

Formatting of articles

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	********Mainly, I think it will just look too crowded if we have more than one of these templates on-screen at the same time. If you have more than one for any given page, you probably need a "Memorable Quotes" section, anyway. This template is an emphasis piece: I wouldn't want it used to throw out a bunch of quotes. --[[User:Ted C\|Ted C]] 16:22, 12 February 2007 (EST)		********Mainly, I think it will just look too crowded if we have more than one of these templates on-screen at the same time. If you have more than one for any given page, you probably need a "Memorable Quotes" section, anyway. This template is an emphasis piece: I wouldn't want it used to throw out a bunch of quotes. --[[User:Ted C\|Ted C]] 16:22, 12 February 2007 (EST)
	*********The context of the discussion that spawned it was a potential replacement for memorable quotes, though. Otherwise, I don't think we need it at all.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:30, 12 February 2007 (EST)		*********The context of the discussion that spawned it was a potential replacement for memorable quotes, though. Otherwise, I don't think we need it at all.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:30, 12 February 2007 (EST)
	**********Unquestionably, we don't [[need]] it. The question is whether we [[want]] it. Is it a useful option for pages? I think that it can be valuable for pages where you really want a particular quote to stand out. I don't see it as a good replacement for a "Memorable Quotes" section where you want to have multiple quotes on a page, all more-or-less equally relevant. --[[User:Ted C\|Ted C]] 16:33, 12 February 2007 (EST)		**********Unquestionably, we don't '''need''' it. The question is whether we '''want''' it. Is it a useful option for pages? I think that it can be valuable for pages where you really want a particular quote to stand out. I don't see it as a good replacement for a "Memorable Quotes" section where you want to have multiple quotes on a page, all more-or-less equally relevant. --[[User:Ted C\|Ted C]] 16:33, 12 February 2007 (EST)

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imported>Ted C: /* Formatting of articles */

2007-02-12T21:33:34Z

Formatting of articles

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	********Mainly, I think it will just look too crowded if we have more than one of these templates on-screen at the same time. If you have more than one for any given page, you probably need a "Memorable Quotes" section, anyway. This template is an emphasis piece: I wouldn't want it used to throw out a bunch of quotes. --[[User:Ted C\|Ted C]] 16:22, 12 February 2007 (EST)		********Mainly, I think it will just look too crowded if we have more than one of these templates on-screen at the same time. If you have more than one for any given page, you probably need a "Memorable Quotes" section, anyway. This template is an emphasis piece: I wouldn't want it used to throw out a bunch of quotes. --[[User:Ted C\|Ted C]] 16:22, 12 February 2007 (EST)
	*********The context of the discussion that spawned it was a potential replacement for memorable quotes, though. Otherwise, I don't think we need it at all.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:30, 12 February 2007 (EST)		*********The context of the discussion that spawned it was a potential replacement for memorable quotes, though. Otherwise, I don't think we need it at all.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:30, 12 February 2007 (EST)
			**********Unquestionably, we don't [[need]] it. The question is whether we [[want]] it. Is it a useful option for pages? I think that it can be valuable for pages where you really want a particular quote to stand out. I don't see it as a good replacement for a "Memorable Quotes" section where you want to have multiple quotes on a page, all more-or-less equally relevant. --[[User:Ted C\|Ted C]] 16:33, 12 February 2007 (EST)

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imported>Hardvice at 21:30, 12 February 2007

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	*******I don't want to speak for [[User:ZachsMind]], but I think the whole idea was to find a way to include quotes in the text when they're needed, like images. An artificial cap on quotes defeats that purpose. For example, a couple quotes on an episode page is probably fine. A couple quotes on, say, [[Bus accident victim]] would be overwhelming.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:12, 12 February 2007 (EST)		*******I don't want to speak for [[User:ZachsMind]], but I think the whole idea was to find a way to include quotes in the text when they're needed, like images. An artificial cap on quotes defeats that purpose. For example, a couple quotes on an episode page is probably fine. A couple quotes on, say, [[Bus accident victim]] would be overwhelming.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:12, 12 February 2007 (EST)
	********Mainly, I think it will just look too crowded if we have more than one of these templates on-screen at the same time. If you have more than one for any given page, you probably need a "Memorable Quotes" section, anyway. This template is an emphasis piece: I wouldn't want it used to throw out a bunch of quotes. --[[User:Ted C\|Ted C]] 16:22, 12 February 2007 (EST)		********Mainly, I think it will just look too crowded if we have more than one of these templates on-screen at the same time. If you have more than one for any given page, you probably need a "Memorable Quotes" section, anyway. This template is an emphasis piece: I wouldn't want it used to throw out a bunch of quotes. --[[User:Ted C\|Ted C]] 16:22, 12 February 2007 (EST)
			*********The context of the discussion that spawned it was a potential replacement for memorable quotes, though. Otherwise, I don't think we need it at all.--[[User:Hardvice\|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice\|(talk)]]</small> 16:30, 12 February 2007 (EST)

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