Theory:Emile Danko - Revision history

imported>PJDEP at 20:18, 5 March 2010

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	\| [[Danko]] has had some past experience with evolved humans, probably of a negative nature, prior to the events of ''Fugitives''. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} In ''[[Cold Wars]]'', when Bennet states that he successfully hid the existence of evolved humans from men like Danko for twenty years, Danko coolly replies that Bennet should not presume to know anything about him.<br />		\| [[Danko]] has had some past experience with evolved humans, probably of a negative nature, prior to the events of ''Fugitives''. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} In ''[[Cold Wars]]'', when Bennet states that he successfully hid the existence of evolved humans from men like Danko for twenty years, Danko coolly replies that Bennet should not presume to know anything about him.<br />
	:{{minus}} Danko was a very secretive man, and ~~probably~~ ~~just~~ ~~took~~ ~~badly~~ Noah making assumptions about him ~~(as many people do)~~.<br />		:{{minus}} Danko was a very secretive man, and most likely did not appreciate Noah making assumptions about him.<br />
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imported>Ebrown2112 at 08:15, 5 March 2010

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	\| [[Danko]] will be resurrected and return. \|\| [[Noah]] noted that [[Edgar]] did not try to kill him and his body was not visibly decapitated. \|\| {{plus}} He's a popular character who will anger viewers not to see him again.<br />		\| [[Danko]] will be resurrected and return. \|\| [[Noah]] noted that [[Edgar]] did not try to kill him and his body was not visibly decapitated. \|\| {{plus}} He's a popular character who will anger viewers not to see him again.<br />
	:{{minus}} If writer wrote characters in and out just because they're popular, many more people wouldn't like it.<br />		:{{minus}} If writer wrote characters in and out just because they're popular, many more people wouldn't like it.<br />
	{{minus}} Even if he wasn't killed, he would not have ~~recieved~~ medical attention until hours later, he would of bled to death if he was just injured.<br />		{{minus}} Even if he wasn't killed, he would not have received medical attention until hours later. He would have bled to death if he was just injured.<br />
	{{minus}} There is no purpose to bringing back Danko. That storyline has played out, so the character was killed off.<br />		{{minus}} There is no purpose to bringing back Danko. That storyline has played out, so the character was killed off.<br />
	{{plus}} He may very well return in a flashback episode (as several other Killed Off For Real characters have), if only to explain his connection to the Sullivan Brothers Carnival and the compass, and also possibly reveal the source of his massive grudge against evolved humans.<br />		{{plus}} He may very well return in a flashback episode (as several other Killed Off For Real characters have), if only to explain his connection to the Sullivan Brothers Carnival and the compass, and also possibly reveal the source of his massive grudge against evolved humans.<br />

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	\| [[Danko]] hates the [[evolved humans]] because one of them rescued him in the Angola incident, but let the others die. \|\| [[Angela]] states in ''[[Shades of Gray]]'' that she knows about Angola and wonders how Danko managed to survive. \|\| {{note}} This would resemble ''"I, Robot"'', where the main character hates robots for the similar reason.<br />		\| [[Danko]] hates the [[evolved humans]] because one of them rescued him in the Angola incident, but let the others die. \|\| [[Angela]] states in ''[[Shades of Gray]]'' that she knows about Angola and wonders how Danko managed to survive. \|\| {{note}} This would resemble ''"I, Robot"'', where the main character hates robots for the similar reason.<br />
	{{plus}} Danko appears to be emotionally ~~upheavaled~~ when [[Danko's team\|his agents]] are slaughtered by [[James Martin]], and even opens a manhunt in vengeance. (''[[Into Asylum]]'')<br />		{{plus}} Danko appears to be emotionally upheaved when [[Danko's team\|his agents]] are slaughtered by [[James Martin]], and even opens a manhunt in vengeance. (''[[Into Asylum]]'')<br />
	{{minus}} Angela was more likely implying that Danko killed Angolan citizens and fabricated the "tragedy" to explain a) How he survived and b) To cover up his role in the atrocity.<br />		{{minus}} Angela was more likely implying that Danko killed Angolan citizens and fabricated the "tragedy" to explain a) How he survived and b) To cover up his role in the atrocity.<br />
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imported>Intuitive Empath at 19:32, 14 February 2010

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	\| [[Danko]] hates the [[evolved humans]] because one of them rescued him in the Angola incident, but let the others die. \|\| [[Angela]] states in ''[[Shades of Gray]]'' that she knows about Angola and wonders how Danko managed to survive. \|\| {{note}} This would resemble ''"I, Robot"'', where the main character hates robots for the similar reason.<br />		\| [[Danko]] hates the [[evolved humans]] because one of them rescued him in the Angola incident, but let the others die. \|\| [[Angela]] states in ''[[Shades of Gray]]'' that she knows about Angola and wonders how Danko managed to survive. \|\| {{note}} This would resemble ''"I, Robot"'', where the main character hates robots for the similar reason.<br />
	{{plus}} Danko appears to be emotionally ~~upheaved~~ when [[Danko's team\|his agents]] are slaughtered by [[James Martin]], and even opens a manhunt in vengeance. (''[[Into Asylum]]'')<br />		{{plus}} Danko appears to be emotionally upheavaled when [[Danko's team\|his agents]] are slaughtered by [[James Martin]], and even opens a manhunt in vengeance. (''[[Into Asylum]]'')<br />
	{{minus}} Angela was more likely implying that Danko killed ~~the Angola~~ citizens and fabricated the "tragedy" to explain a) How he survived and b) To cover up his role in the atrocity.<br />		{{minus}} Angela was more likely implying that Danko killed Angolan citizens and fabricated the "tragedy" to explain a) How he survived and b) To cover up his role in the atrocity.<br />
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	\| [[Danko]] was at [[Coyote Sands]], and witnessed the deadly storm that wiped out the camp. \|\| None \|\| {{note}} If he knew that a [[evolved human\|special]] was capable of wiping out an entire camp, he could probably gain a serious hate for them.<br />		\| [[Danko]] was at [[Coyote Sands]], and witnessed the deadly storm that wiped out the camp. \|\| None \|\| {{note}} If he knew that a [[evolved human\|special]] was capable of wiping out an entire camp, he could probably gain a serious hate for them.<br />

imported>Yoshi n1 at 19:30, 14 February 2010

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	\| [[Danko]] has had some past experience with evolved humans, probably of a negative nature, prior to the events of ''Fugitives''. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} In ''[[Cold Wars]]'', when Bennet states that he successfully hid the existence of evolved humans from men like Danko for twenty years, Danko coolly replies that Bennet should not presume to know anything about him.<br />		\| [[Danko]] has had some past experience with evolved humans, probably of a negative nature, prior to the events of ''Fugitives''. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} In ''[[Cold Wars]]'', when Bennet states that he successfully hid the existence of evolved humans from men like Danko for twenty years, Danko coolly replies that Bennet should not presume to know anything about him.<br />
	:{{minus}} Danko was a very secretive man, and probably just took badly Noah making assumptions about him (as many people do).		:{{minus}} Danko was a very secretive man, and probably just took badly Noah making assumptions about him (as many people do).<br />
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imported>Remiel DeCarta at 19:26, 14 February 2010

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	{{minus}} Danko regarded specials as subhuman at best. If he used to be one, that level of hatred would probably be impossible to develop.<br />		{{minus}} Danko regarded specials as subhuman at best. If he used to be one, that level of hatred would probably be impossible to develop.<br />
	{{minus}} Danko underestimated the specials on a few occasions. If he had once wielded power himself, it seems unlikely that he would do so.<br />		{{minus}} Danko underestimated the specials on a few occasions. If he had once wielded power himself, it seems unlikely that he would do so.<br />
	:{{note}} Matt tried to ~~shot~~ Sylar at the end of ''[[How to Stop an Exploding Man]]'', clearly underestimating Sylar's capacity to stop bullets. Just because one has an ability doesn't mean they understand (or are even aware of) any others, especially if they are unrelated.<br />		:{{note}} Matt tried to shoot Sylar at the end of ''[[How to Stop an Exploding Man]]'', clearly underestimating Sylar's capacity to stop bullets. Just because one has an ability doesn't mean they understand (or are even aware of) any others, especially if they are unrelated.<br />
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	\| [[Danko]]'s family or one of his loved ones was killed by an evolved human. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} This could be the reason why he hates the evolved human so much.<br />		\| [[Danko]]'s family or one of his loved ones was killed by an evolved human. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} This could be the reason why he hates the evolved human so much.<br />
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	\| [[Danko]] hates the [[evolved humans]] because one of them rescued him in the Angola incident, but let the others die. \|\| [[Angela]] states in ''[[Shades of Gray]]'' that she knows about Angola and wonders how Danko managed to survive. \|\| {{note}} This would resemble ''"I, Robot"'', where the main character hates robots for the similar reason.<br />		\| [[Danko]] hates the [[evolved humans]] because one of them rescued him in the Angola incident, but let the others die. \|\| [[Angela]] states in ''[[Shades of Gray]]'' that she knows about Angola and wonders how Danko managed to survive. \|\| {{note}} This would resemble ''"I, Robot"'', where the main character hates robots for the similar reason.<br />
	{{plus}} Danko appears to be emotionally upheaved when [[Danko's team\|his agents]] are slaughtered by [[James Martin]], and even opens a manhunt in vengeance. (''[[Into Asylum]]'')		{{plus}} Danko appears to be emotionally upheaved when [[Danko's team\|his agents]] are slaughtered by [[James Martin]], and even opens a manhunt in vengeance. (''[[Into Asylum]]'')<br />
			{{minus}} Angela was more likely implying that Danko killed the Angola citizens and fabricated the "tragedy" to explain a) How he survived and b) To cover up his role in the atrocity.<br />
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	\| [[Danko]] was at [[Coyote Sands]], and witnessed the deadly storm that wiped out the camp. \|\| None \|\| {{note}} If he knew that a [[evolved human\|special]] was capable of wiping out an entire camp, he could probably gain a serious hate for them.<br />		\| [[Danko]] was at [[Coyote Sands]], and witnessed the deadly storm that wiped out the camp. \|\| None \|\| {{note}} If he knew that a [[evolved human\|special]] was capable of wiping out an entire camp, he could probably gain a serious hate for them.<br />
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	{{plus}} He may very well return in a flashback episode (as several other Killed Off For Real characters have), if only to explain his connection to the Sullivan Brothers Carnival and the compass, and also possibly reveal the source of his massive grudge against evolved humans.<br />		{{plus}} He may very well return in a flashback episode (as several other Killed Off For Real characters have), if only to explain his connection to the Sullivan Brothers Carnival and the compass, and also possibly reveal the source of his massive grudge against evolved humans.<br />
	:{{note}} It's easier to show in a graphic novel.<br />		:{{note}} It's easier to show in a graphic novel.<br />
			:{{note}} Danko's so-called grudge against evolved humans is no great mystery. He is terrified of people having that kind of destructive potential (a perfectly rational response). As Danko has shown himself to be an extremist, he didn't distinguish between people with harmless abilities and destructive ones.<br />
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	\| [[Danko]] has had some past experience with evolved humans, probably of a negative nature, prior to the events of ''Fugitives''. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} In ''[[Cold Wars]]'', when Bennet states that he successfully hid the existence of evolved humans from men like Danko for twenty years, Danko coolly replies that Bennet should not presume to know anything about him.<br />		\| [[Danko]] has had some past experience with evolved humans, probably of a negative nature, prior to the events of ''Fugitives''. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} In ''[[Cold Wars]]'', when Bennet states that he successfully hid the existence of evolved humans from men like Danko for twenty years, Danko coolly replies that Bennet should not presume to know anything about him.<br />
			:{{minus}} Danko was a very secretive man, and probably just took badly Noah making assumptions about him (as many people do).
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	{{minus}} Danko regarded specials as subhuman at best. If he used to be one, that level of hatred would probably be impossible to develop.<br />		{{minus}} Danko regarded specials as subhuman at best. If he used to be one, that level of hatred would probably be impossible to develop.<br />
	{{minus}} Danko underestimated the specials on a few occasions. If he had once wielded power himself, it seems unlikely that he would do so.<br />		{{minus}} Danko underestimated the specials on a few occasions. If he had once wielded power himself, it seems unlikely that he would do so.<br />
	:{{note}} Matt tried to shot Sylar at the end of ''[[How to Stop an Exploding Man]]'', clearly underestimating Sylar's capacity to stop bullets. Just because one has an ability doesn't mean they understand (or are even aware) any others, especially if they are unrelated.<br />		:{{note}} Matt tried to shot Sylar at the end of ''[[How to Stop an Exploding Man]]'', clearly underestimating Sylar's capacity to stop bullets. Just because one has an ability doesn't mean they understand (or are even aware of) any others, especially if they are unrelated.<br />
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	\| [[Danko]]'s family or one of his loved ones was killed by an evolved human. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} This could be the reason why he hates the evolved human so much.<br />		\| [[Danko]]'s family or one of his loved ones was killed by an evolved human. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} This could be the reason why he hates the evolved human so much.<br />

imported>Intuitive Empath at 21:03, 11 December 2009

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	{{minus}} Danko regarded specials as subhuman at best. If he used to be one, that level of hatred would probably be impossible to develop.<br />		{{minus}} Danko regarded specials as subhuman at best. If he used to be one, that level of hatred would probably be impossible to develop.<br />
	{{minus}} Danko underestimated the specials on a few occasions. If he had once wielded power himself, it seems unlikely that he would do so.<br />		{{minus}} Danko underestimated the specials on a few occasions. If he had once wielded power himself, it seems unlikely that he would do so.<br />
	:{{note}} Matt tried to shot Sylar at the end of [[How to Stop an Exploding Man]], clearly underestimating Sylar's capacity to stop bullets. Just because one has an ability doesn't mean they understand (or are even aware) any others, especially if they are unrelated.<br/>		:{{note}} Matt tried to shot Sylar at the end of ''[[How to Stop an Exploding Man]]'', clearly underestimating Sylar's capacity to stop bullets. Just because one has an ability doesn't mean they understand (or are even aware) any others, especially if they are unrelated.<br />
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	\| [[Danko]]'s family or one of his loved ones was killed by an evolved human. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} This could be the reason why he hates the evolved human so much.<br />		\| [[Danko]]'s family or one of his loved ones was killed by an evolved human. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} This could be the reason why he hates the evolved human so much.<br />

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	:{{plus}} The Company's overall competence is somewhat questionable, given their track record with [[Sylar]].<br />		:{{plus}} The Company's overall competence is somewhat questionable, given their track record with [[Sylar]].<br />
	::{{note}} Sylar is the most powerful evolved human the Company has ever gone up against. Their track record before he surfaced is fairly good (on-screen they've only ever been seen failing to catch Nathan, [[Claude]] and [[Peter]]; Nathan most likely due to him being Angela's son, and Claude and Peter due to Peter being just about as powerful as Sylar at that point).<br />		::{{note}} Sylar is the most powerful evolved human the Company has ever gone up against. Their track record before he surfaced is fairly good (on-screen they've only ever been seen failing to catch Nathan, [[Claude]] and [[Peter]]; Nathan most likely due to him being Angela's son, and Claude and Peter due to Peter being just about as powerful as Sylar at that point).<br />
	::{{note}} Sylar is proven to be a master escapist: he got away from [[Matt Parkman]] and [[Audrey Hanson]] in ''[[One Giant Leap]]'', from Audrey again in ''[[Turning Point]]'', from the police in ''[[Road Kill]]'', from [[Mohinder Suresh]] in ''[[Parasite]]'', from [[Candice]] in ''[[Kindred]]'', from the [[Citizen Border Patrol]] in ''[[The Line]]'', from [[Elle]] in ''[[Powerless]]'', from [[Noah Bennet]] in ''[[The Eclipse]]'' (albeit Noah found him again thanks to Elle), from [[Homeland Security\|DHS Agents]] in ''[[A Clear and Present Danger]]'' and ''[[Episode:Building 26\|Building 26]]'', from Emile Danko in ''[[Into Asylum]]'', and from [[Samson Gray\|his father]] in ''[[Shades of Gray]]''.<br />		::{{note}} Sylar is proven to be a master escapist: he got away from [[Matt Parkman]] and [[Audrey Hanson]] in ''[[One Giant Leap]]'', from Audrey again in ''[[Turning Point]]'', from the police in ''[[Road Kill]]'', from [[Mohinder Suresh]] in ''[[Parasite]]'', from [[Candice]] in ''[[Kindred]]'', from the [[Citizen Border Patrol]] in ''[[The Line]]'', from [[Elle]] in ''[[Powerless]]'', from [[Noah Bennet]] in ''[[The Eclipse, Part 2]]'' (albeit Noah found him again thanks to Elle), from [[Homeland Security\|DHS Agents]] in ''[[A Clear and Present Danger]]'' and ''[[Episode:Building 26\|Building 26]]'', from Emile Danko in ''[[Into Asylum]]'', and from [[Samson Gray\|his father]] in ''[[Shades of Gray]]''.<br />
	{{minus}} Danko doesn't seem to be old enough to have been to Coyote Sands (or anywhere) in 1961, which is 46 years before the current timeline.<br />		{{minus}} Danko doesn't seem to be old enough to have been to Coyote Sands (or anywhere) in 1961, which is 46 years before the current timeline.<br />
	:{{plus}} He could have been a small child at the time. [[Zeljko Ivanek]] is 52 years old, if Danko is the same age he would have been six years old during the incident. Childhood trauma shaping a character's actions later in life seems to be a recurring theme in the show. His young age at the time could also explain how Angela and the others missed him when eliminating all witnesses to the events at Coyote Sands.<br />		:{{plus}} He could have been a small child at the time. [[Zeljko Ivanek]] is 52 years old, if Danko is the same age he would have been six years old during the incident. Childhood trauma shaping a character's actions later in life seems to be a recurring theme in the show. His young age at the time could also explain how Angela and the others missed him when eliminating all witnesses to the events at Coyote Sands.<br />