Theory:Empathic mimicry - Revision history

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	::{{note}} They said they intended for the power to be the same, manifesting differently, it is as canon as Kaito's ability.<br />		::{{note}} They said they intended for the power to be the same, manifesting differently, it is as canon as Kaito's ability.<br />
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	\| An Empathic Mimic doesn't need physical interaction with another Evolved Human to absorb their power. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} Peter absorbed Ted Sprague's Induced Radioactivity without any interaction with him.<br />		\| An Empathic Mimic doesn't need physical interaction with another Evolved Human to absorb their power. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} Peter absorbed Ted Sprague's Induced Radioactivity without any interaction with him.<br />
			:{{minus}} Ted's power causes him to constantly spread radioactivity around him, which caused his wife's cancer.<br />
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	:{{minus}} They said the power was the same, just used differently.<br />		:{{minus}} They said the power was the same, just used differently.<br />
	::{{note}} They said they intended for the power to be the same, manifesting differently, it is as canon as Kaito's ability.<br />		::{{note}} They said they intended for the power to be the same, manifesting differently, it is as canon as Kaito's ability.<br />
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			\| An Empathic Mimic doesn't need physical interaction with another Evolved Human to absorb their power. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} Peter absorbed Ted Sprague's Induced Radioactivity without any interaction with him.<br />
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imported>Intuitive Empath at 01:13, 25 March 2010

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	\| The more emotionally attached [[Peter]] is to a person the easier he could access their ability. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} He was able to use [[flight]] and [[invisibility]] a lot easier than abilities from people he had only recently met such as [[telekinesis]] and [[telepathy]]. But when he met [[Matt]] and [[Sylar]] again and got to know them better these powers were more refined.<br />		\| The more emotionally attached [[Peter]] is to a person the easier he could access their ability. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} He was able to use [[flight]] and [[invisibility]] a lot easier than abilities from people he had only recently met such as [[telekinesis]] and [[telepathy]]. But when he met [[Matt]] and [[Sylar]] again and got to know them better these powers were more refined.<br />
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			\| [[Peter]]'s empathic mimicry evolved into power mimicry.\|\| None \|\| {{plus}} Originally he had the power only to mimic someone around him. Eventually he was able to copy powers and used them, even if they weren't around.<br />
			{{minus}} Claude taught him how to use his powers, because he knew other mimics like Arthur Petrelli.<br />
			{{plus}} He originally needed to remember how they made him feel. Later, he could recall them even when he was amnesiac.<br />
			{{plus}} Arthur claimed his power was more advanced, so did the writers.<br />
			{{minus}} They said the power was the same, just used differently.<br />
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imported>Intuitive Empath at 00:26, 8 March 2010

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	{{plus}} In 2011 Future Peter was the most wanted terrorist. He spent four years [[Moral ambiguity\|killing hundreds of people to save the world]] and then he suddenly decided to go to the past to prevent [[Pinehearst]]'s and his own crimes. Sounds ridiculous, to say the least.<br />		{{plus}} In 2011 Future Peter was the most wanted terrorist. He spent four years [[Moral ambiguity\|killing hundreds of people to save the world]] and then he suddenly decided to go to the past to prevent [[Pinehearst]]'s and his own crimes. Sounds ridiculous, to say the least.<br />
	{{minus}} The Peter from the exposed future had murdered at least 200 people in an attempt to save the world. For a person like Peter Petrelli, that would cause tremendous psychological strain. He may even have become unhinged from it.<br />		{{minus}} The Peter from the exposed future had murdered at least 200 people in an attempt to save the world. For a person like Peter Petrelli, that would cause tremendous psychological strain. He may even have become unhinged from it.<br />
	{{minus}} ~~just~~ because copying multiple powers could cause him mental damage doesn't mean he will become stupid. ~~there~~'s a big difference between stupidity and insanity.<br />		{{minus}} Just because copying multiple powers could cause him mental damage doesn't mean he will become stupid. There's a big difference between stupidity and insanity.<br />
	{{minus}} Peter was always too emotional to completely think things through. he cares about people too much to be completely logical.<br />		{{minus}} Peter was always too emotional to completely think things through. He cares about people too much to be completely logical.<br />
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	\| If someone who has had their ability absorbed through empathic mimicry undergoes a major personality shift, then the mimic will become unable to access their ability. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} In the [[exposed future]], where Claire becomes a sociopath, Peter Petrelli seemed to lack rapid cell regeneration.<br />		\| If someone who has had their ability absorbed through empathic mimicry undergoes a major personality shift, then the mimic will become unable to access their ability. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} In the [[exposed future]], where Claire becomes a sociopath, Peter Petrelli seemed to lack rapid cell regeneration.<br />

imported>Tsl3161991 at 17:38, 7 March 2010

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	{{plus}} In 2011 Future Peter was the most wanted terrorist. He spent four years [[Moral ambiguity\|killing hundreds of people to save the world]] and then he suddenly decided to go to the past to prevent [[Pinehearst]]'s and his own crimes. Sounds ridiculous, to say the least.<br />		{{plus}} In 2011 Future Peter was the most wanted terrorist. He spent four years [[Moral ambiguity\|killing hundreds of people to save the world]] and then he suddenly decided to go to the past to prevent [[Pinehearst]]'s and his own crimes. Sounds ridiculous, to say the least.<br />
	{{minus}} The Peter from the exposed future had murdered at least 200 people in an attempt to save the world. For a person like Peter Petrelli, that would cause tremendous psychological strain. He may even have become unhinged from it.<br />		{{minus}} The Peter from the exposed future had murdered at least 200 people in an attempt to save the world. For a person like Peter Petrelli, that would cause tremendous psychological strain. He may even have become unhinged from it.<br />
			{{minus}} just because copying multiple powers could cause him mental damage doesn't mean he will become stupid. there's a big difference between stupidity and insanity.<br />
			{{minus}} Peter was always too emotional to completely think things through. he cares about people too much to be completely logical.<br />
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	\| If someone who has had their ability absorbed through empathic mimicry undergoes a major personality shift, then the mimic will become unable to access their ability. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} In the [[exposed future]], where Claire becomes a sociopath, Peter Petrelli seemed to lack rapid cell regeneration.<br />		\| If someone who has had their ability absorbed through empathic mimicry undergoes a major personality shift, then the mimic will become unable to access their ability. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} In the [[exposed future]], where Claire becomes a sociopath, Peter Petrelli seemed to lack rapid cell regeneration.<br />

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	{{minus}} Peter was able to use mimicked abilities when he had no memories of who he was, or he knew.<br />		{{minus}} Peter was able to use mimicked abilities when he had no memories of who he was, or he knew.<br />
	{{minus}} Peter used [[Niki]]'s [[Enhanced strength\|ability]].<br />		{{minus}} Peter used [[Niki]]'s [[Enhanced strength\|ability]].<br />
			{{minus}} Peter's power relies on how he feels when he meets them, it has nothing to do with their personality.<br />
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	\| There is a limit to how many abilities this ability can absorb. After absorbing so many it removes some to make place for others. \|\| Mohinder said this ability was like a sponge, and even sponges can only retain so much water before letting some out. \|\| {{plus}} [[Peter]] only seemed to use [[phasing]] twice and did not seem to use it after Season Two, by which point he met multiple [[evolved humans]].<br />		\| There is a limit to how many abilities this ability can absorb. After absorbing so many it removes some to make place for others. \|\| Mohinder said this ability was like a sponge, and even sponges can only retain so much water before letting some out. \|\| {{plus}} [[Peter]] only seemed to use [[phasing]] twice and did not seem to use it after Season Two, by which point he met multiple [[evolved humans]].<br />

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	:::{{minus}} Only needed help on how to access the ability, he had it since he and Sylar first met.<br />		:::{{minus}} Only needed help on how to access the ability, he had it since he and Sylar first met.<br />
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	\| The more emotionally attached [[Peter]] is to a person the easier he ~~can~~ access their ability. \|\|None\|\| {{plus}}He was able to use [[flight]] and [[invisibility]] a lot easier than abilities from people he had only recently met such as [[telekinesis]] and [[telepathy]]. But when he met [[Matt]] and [[Sylar]] again and got to know them better these powers were more refined.		\| The more emotionally attached [[Peter]] is to a person the easier he could access their ability. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} He was able to use [[flight]] and [[invisibility]] a lot easier than abilities from people he had only recently met such as [[telekinesis]] and [[telepathy]]. But when he met [[Matt]] and [[Sylar]] again and got to know them better these powers were more refined.<br />
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imported>Heroicsociopath at 17:13, 29 November 2009

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	::{{plus}} [[Peter]] needed to go see [[exposed future\|Gabriel]] to absorb his [[intuitive aptitude\|ability]].<br />		::{{plus}} [[Peter]] needed to go see [[exposed future\|Gabriel]] to absorb his [[intuitive aptitude\|ability]].<br />
	:::{{minus}} Only needed help on how to access the ability, he had it since he and Sylar first met.<br />		:::{{minus}} Only needed help on how to access the ability, he had it since he and Sylar first met.<br />
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	\| Peter absorbs personalities as well as powers as a result of having to "feel" another person's presence in order for absorption. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} In his fight with [[Isaac]], Peter displays an "evil", aggressive nature to him when he uses his telekinetic abilities, which likens to that of [[Sylar]]. Peter, being empathetic, needs to experience another person's "essence" in order to use their abilities. Being around Sylar invoked fear and chaos, so using Sylar's powers would inevitably cause Peter to have violent tendencies.<br />		\| Peter absorbs personalities as well as powers as a result of having to "feel" another person's presence in order for absorption. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} In his fight with [[Isaac]], Peter displays an "evil", aggressive nature to him when he uses his telekinetic abilities, which likens to that of [[Sylar]]. Peter, being empathetic, needs to experience another person's "essence" in order to use their abilities. Being around Sylar invoked fear and chaos, so using Sylar's powers would inevitably cause Peter to have violent tendencies.<br />
	:{{plus}} Peter was quite eager to telekinetically strangle [[Will]] in [[Kindred]], suggesting that the use of Sylar's telekinesis makes him more violent like Sylar.<br />		:{{plus}} Peter was quite eager to telekinetically strangle [[Will]] in [[Kindred]], suggesting that the use of Sylar's telekinesis makes him more violent like Sylar.<br />
	{{minus}} Peter, when stopping Claude's broomstick or dropping the taser gun's darts, did not have a violent outburst.<br />		{{minus}} Peter, when stopping Claude's broomstick or dropping the taser gun's darts, did not have a violent outburst.<br />
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	{{plus}} In ''[[Kindred]]'', after Peter pinned [[Will]] to the wall, he tells [[Caitlin]] that he wanted to kill him. This reflects [[Elle]]'s personality.<br />		{{plus}} In ''[[Kindred]]'', after Peter pinned [[Will]] to the wall, he tells [[Caitlin]] that he wanted to kill him. This reflects [[Elle]]'s personality.<br />
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	\| Peter can mimic non-superhuman abilities of others. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} Peter initially seemed only able to draw stick figures, but is able to paint similarly to [[Isaac]] when close to him.<br />		\| Peter can mimic non-superhuman abilities of others. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} Peter initially seemed only able to draw stick figures, but is able to paint similarly to [[Isaac]] when close to him.<br />
	:{{minus}} Peter may have only been able to draw stick figures because of the limited art supplies available. When given paint and canvas, he has been known to draw more accurate paintings (such as the Montreal painting). If he were able to mimic non-superhuman abilities, then he would have been able to paint or sketch a good picture regardless of his proximity to Isaac.<br />		:{{minus}} Peter may have only been able to draw stick figures because of the limited art supplies available. When given paint and canvas, he has been known to draw more accurate paintings (such as the Montreal painting). If he were able to mimic non-superhuman abilities, then he would have been able to paint or sketch a good picture regardless of his proximity to Isaac.<br />
	:{{minus}} When Peter drew the stick figures, he was drawing from a dream he had using Angela’s power. His eyes were normal and he was not currently seeing into the future. Every time he has used Isaac’s power, his eyes have become completely white and he has painted just as well as Isaac could.<br />		:{{minus}} When Peter drew the stick figures, he was drawing from a dream he had using Angela’s power. His eyes were normal and he was not currently seeing into the future. Every time he has used Isaac’s power, his eyes have become completely white and he has painted just as well as Isaac could.<br />
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	{{note}}In a [http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12055 Behind the Eclipse interview], [[Joe Pokaski]] and [[Aron Coleite]] stated that "Peter has learned and will continue to learn that's it's more about his heart than his memory."<br />		{{note}}In a [http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12055 Behind the Eclipse interview], [[Joe Pokaski]] and [[Aron Coleite]] stated that "Peter has learned and will continue to learn that's it's more about his heart than his memory."<br />
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	\| Peter can only use some powers to do whatever the "source" of it can do and if he encounters them when they have refined control of it, the ability he has is refined as well. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} When Peter first met Matt Parkman in ''[[Fallout]]'' and absorbed his telepathy, he could only read minds as that's all Matt could do at that time while in ''[[Powerless]]'', he may have gained the thought transmission / mind control aspect of that ability from meeting Matt near the vault.<br />		\| Peter can only use some powers to do whatever the "source" of it can do and if he encounters them when they have refined control of it, the ability he has is refined as well. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} When Peter first met Matt Parkman in ''[[Fallout]]'' and absorbed his telepathy, he could only read minds as that's all Matt could do at that time while in ''[[Powerless]]'', he may have gained the thought transmission / mind control aspect of that ability from meeting Matt near the vault.<br />
	{{plus}} Adam Monroe has refined control of his regenerative ability (due to approximately 350 years of experience), this stronger regenerative capability could've be absorbed by Peter when they meet in ''[[Four Months Later]]'' (once the "Haitian Pills" were out of his system).<br />		{{plus}} Adam Monroe has refined control of his regenerative ability (due to approximately 350 years of experience), this stronger regenerative capability could've be absorbed by Peter when they meet in ''[[Four Months Later]]'' (once the "Haitian Pills" were out of his system).<br />
	{{minus}}It appears Peter's refinement may be independent as Peter was able to see (not hear) Angela's thoughts without running into Matt Parkman another time.<br />		{{minus}}It appears Peter's refinement may be independent as Peter was able to see (not hear) Angela's thoughts without running into Matt Parkman another time.<br />
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	\| The more emotionally attached [[Peter]] is to a person the easier he could access their ability. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} He was able to use [[flight]] and [[invisibility]] a lot easier than abilities from people he had only recently met such as [[telekinesis]] and [[telepathy]]. But when he met [[Matt]] and [[Sylar]] again and got to know them better these powers were more refined.<br />		\| The more emotionally attached [[Peter]] is to a person the easier he could access their ability. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} He was able to use [[flight]] and [[invisibility]] a lot easier than abilities from people he had only recently met such as [[telekinesis]] and [[telepathy]]. But when he met [[Matt]] and [[Sylar]] again and got to know them better these powers were more refined.<br />
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	\| [[Peter]]'s empathic mimicry evolved into power mimicry.\|\| None \|\| {{plus}} Originally he had the power only to mimic someone around him. Eventually he was able to copy powers and used them, even if they weren't around.<br />		\| [[Peter]]'s empathic mimicry evolved into power mimicry. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} Originally he had the power only to mimic someone around him. Eventually he was able to copy powers and used them, even if they weren't around.<br />
	{{minus}} Claude taught him how to use his powers, because he knew other mimics like Arthur Petrelli.<br />		{{minus}} Claude taught him how to use his powers, because he knew other mimics like Arthur Petrelli.<br />
			:{{note}} Arthur acquired powers, but wasn't a mimic.<br />
	{{plus}} He originally needed to remember how they made him feel. Later, he could recall them even when he was amnesiac.<br />		{{plus}} He originally needed to remember how they made him feel. Later, he could recall them even when he was amnesiac.<br />
			:{{note}} Remembering a specific person isn't necessary to feel the same emotion.<br />
	{{plus}} Arthur claimed his power was more advanced, so did the writers.<br />		{{plus}} Arthur claimed his power was more advanced, so did the writers.<br />
	{{minus}} They said the power was the same, just used differently.<br />		:{{minus}} They said the power was the same, just used differently.<br />
			::{{note}} They said they intended for the power to be the same, manifesting differently, it is as canon as Kaito's ability.<br />
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