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imported>Intuitive Empath at 01:39, 5 January 2011

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	{{plus}} Something prevents Hiro from causing a [[rift]] through [[space-time manipulation\|time travel]].<br />		{{plus}} Something prevents Hiro from causing a [[rift]] through [[space-time manipulation\|time travel]].<br />
	:{{minus}} There is no evidence supporting the fact that he hasn't already.<br />		:{{minus}} There is no evidence supporting the fact that he hasn't already.<br />
			::{{note}} Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence.<br />
	{{plus}} Despite painting a [[explosion\|grim future]], Nathan exhibits [[free will]] by flying Peter above [[New York City]].<br />		{{plus}} Despite painting a [[explosion\|grim future]], Nathan exhibits [[free will]] by flying Peter above [[New York City]].<br />
	{{plus}} [[Monica]] prayed that God would give her an exit from the slums of New Orleans. Her prayer appears to be answered in the form of [[Adoptive muscle memory\|an ability]].<br />		{{plus}} [[Monica]] prayed that God would give her an exit from the slums of New Orleans. Her prayer appears to be answered in the form of [[Adoptive muscle memory\|an ability]].<br />
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	::::{{note}} Perhaps he is suggesting that those people were reincarnations of past figures.<br />		::::{{note}} Perhaps he is suggesting that those people were reincarnations of past figures.<br />
	:{{minus}} According to the legend, King Midas wasn't an evolved human, he was cursed.<br />		:{{minus}} According to the legend, King Midas wasn't an evolved human, he was cursed.<br />
	::{{minus}} According to ~~your~~ logic, many of the current Heroes are "cursed" (i.e. Claire).<br />		::{{minus}} According to that logic, many of the current Heroes are "cursed" (i.e. Claire).<br />
	{{plus}} [[Takezo Kensei]] was a mythological Japanese hero. In reality, his story was the combination of the journeys of an [[Adam\|evolved human]] with [[rapid cell regeneration\|immortality]] and an [[Hiro\|evolved human]] with the power to [[space-time manipulation\|bend time and space]]. The legend was [[secrets\|exaggerated]] by [[Yaeko]]. (''[[Out of Time]]'')<br />		{{plus}} [[Takezo Kensei]] was a mythological Japanese hero. In reality, his story was the combination of the journeys of an [[Adam\|evolved human]] with [[rapid cell regeneration\|immortality]] and an [[Hiro\|evolved human]] with the power to [[space-time manipulation\|bend time and space]]. The legend was [[secrets\|exaggerated]] by [[Yaeko]]. (''[[Out of Time]]'')<br />
	{{plus}} [[Benjamin Franklin]] was an evolved human. (''[[A Lesson in Electricity]]'')<br />		{{plus}} [[Benjamin Franklin]] was an evolved human. (''[[A Lesson in Electricity]]'')<br />

imported>Boycool42: No points, no theory.

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	:{{minus}} Not a mythological figure.		:{{minus}} Not a mythological figure.
	{{plus}} [[Kaito]] tells [[Hiro]] that they have the power of gods, but should not play God. (''[[Cautionary Tales]]'')<br />		{{plus}} [[Kaito]] tells [[Hiro]] that they have the power of gods, but should not play God. (''[[Cautionary Tales]]'')<br />
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	\| Jesus was an [[evolved human]] with the power to [[Healing\|heal people]]. \|\| None. \|\|
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imported>Mr. muggles mike at 12:37, 27 March 2010

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	:{{minus}} Not a mythological figure.		:{{minus}} Not a mythological figure.
	{{plus}} [[Kaito]] tells [[Hiro]] that they have the power of gods, but should not play God. (''[[Cautionary Tales]]'')<br />		{{plus}} [[Kaito]] tells [[Hiro]] that they have the power of gods, but should not play God. (''[[Cautionary Tales]]'')<br />
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			\| Jesus was an [[evolved human]] with the power to [[Healing\|heal people]]. \|\| None. \|\|
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imported>PJDEP at 00:12, 1 March 2010

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	\| There is an incredibly powerful being guiding the events in ''Heroes'', whether it be God, a god, or an [[evolved human]]. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} Most of the [[prophecy\|prophecies]] made by [[Isaac]], [[Peter]] and [[Sylar]] are only relevant to the events that involve them; what are the chances that Isaac would [[precognition\|paint]] [[Hiro]]'s battle with [[Adam]] in ''[[Out of Time]]'' in the same series as the painting of [[Noah]] being shot by [[Mohinder]]? The events are 400 years apart. (''[[The Line]]'')<br />		\| There is an incredibly powerful being guiding the events in ''Heroes'', whether it be God, a god, or an [[evolved human]]. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} Most of the [[prophecy\|prophecies]] made by [[Isaac]], [[Peter]] and [[Sylar]] are only relevant to the events that involve them; what are the chances that Isaac would [[precognition\|paint]] [[Hiro]]'s battle with [[Adam]] in ''[[Out of Time]]'' in the same series as the painting of [[Noah]] being shot by [[Mohinder]]? The events are 400 years apart. (''[[The Line]]'')<br />
	{{plus}} Something prevents Hiro from causing a [[rift]] through [[space-time manipulation\|time travel]].<br />		{{plus}} Something prevents Hiro from causing a [[rift]] through [[space-time manipulation\|time travel]].<br />
	:{{minus}} There is no evidence supporting the fact that he hasn't already.<br />		:{{minus}} There is no evidence supporting the fact that he hasn't already.<br />
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	{{plus}} [[The Symbol]] often appears with the "evolved humans." The symbol could be the "signature" of their ultimate designer (similar to how and artists signs his artwork).<br />		{{plus}} [[The Symbol]] often appears with the "evolved humans." The symbol could be the "signature" of their ultimate designer (similar to how and artists signs his artwork).<br />
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	\| Mythological figures in the world of ''Heroes'' were actually evolved humans. \|\| None. \|\| {{minus}} ''Heroes'' will probably not touch upon cultural or religious legends as it may be taken offensively.<br />		\| Mythological figures in the world of ''Heroes'' were actually evolved humans. \|\| None \|\| {{minus}} ''Heroes'' will probably not touch upon cultural or religious legends as it may be taken offensively.<br />
	{{plus}} [[Bob]] has the power to [[alchemy\|turn objects into gold]], like [[wikipedia:Midas\|King Midas]]. His computer password reflects the legend. (''[[Powerless]]'')<br />		{{plus}} [[Bob]] has the power to [[alchemy\|turn objects into gold]], like [[wikipedia:Midas\|King Midas]]. His computer password reflects the legend. (''[[Powerless]]'')<br />
	:{{minus}} Bob is not King Midas. Bob lives in the present. King Midas (assuming he was real in ''Heroes'') lived in the past.<br />		:{{minus}} Bob is not King Midas. Bob lives in the present. King Midas (assuming he was real in ''Heroes'') lived in the past.<br />

imported>Formless at 04:16, 4 December 2009

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	::{{plus}} [[Ability\|Abilities]] repeat; [[Nathan]] and [[West]] can both [[flight\|fly]], [[Adam]] and [[Claire]] can both [[regenerate]], [[Maury]] and [[Matt]] are both [[telepathy\|telepathic]], [[Richard Drucker]] and [[Hana]] both have [[electronic data transception]], [[Meredith]] and [[the Company]] agent [[Maarten]] can both [[pyrokinesis\|manipulate fire]].<br />		::{{plus}} [[Ability\|Abilities]] repeat; [[Nathan]] and [[West]] can both [[flight\|fly]], [[Adam]] and [[Claire]] can both [[regenerate]], [[Maury]] and [[Matt]] are both [[telepathy\|telepathic]], [[Richard Drucker]] and [[Hana]] both have [[electronic data transception]], [[Meredith]] and [[the Company]] agent [[Maarten]] can both [[pyrokinesis\|manipulate fire]].<br />
	:::{{minus}} This is not proof that King Midas existed in ''Heroes''.<br />		:::{{minus}} This is not proof that King Midas existed in ''Heroes''.<br />
			::::{{note}} Perhaps he is suggesting that those people were reincarnations of past figures.<br />
	:{{minus}} According to the legend, King Midas wasn't an evolved human, he was cursed.<br />		:{{minus}} According to the legend, King Midas wasn't an evolved human, he was cursed.<br />
	::{{minus}} According to your logic, many of the current Heroes are "cursed" (i.e. Claire).<br />		::{{minus}} According to your logic, many of the current Heroes are "cursed" (i.e. Claire).<br />

imported>Formless at 04:14, 4 December 2009

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	\| There is an incredibly powerful being guiding the events in ''Heroes'', whether it be God, a god, or an [[evolved human]]. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} Most of the [[prophecy\|prophecies]] made by [[Isaac]], [[Peter]] and [[Sylar]] are only relevant to the events that involve them; what are the chances that Isaac would [[precognition\|paint]] [[Hiro]]'s battle with [[Adam]] in ''[[Out of Time]]'' in the same series as the painting of [[Noah]] being shot by [[Mohinder]]? The events are 400 years apart. (''[[The Line]]'')<br />		\| There is an incredibly powerful being guiding the events in ''Heroes'', whether it be God, a god, or an [[evolved human]]. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} Most of the [[prophecy\|prophecies]] made by [[Isaac]], [[Peter]] and [[Sylar]] are only relevant to the events that involve them; what are the chances that Isaac would [[precognition\|paint]] [[Hiro]]'s battle with [[Adam]] in ''[[Out of Time]]'' in the same series as the painting of [[Noah]] being shot by [[Mohinder]]? The events are 400 years apart. (''[[The Line]]'')<br />
	{{plus}} Something prevents Hiro from causing a [[rift]] through [[space-time manipulation\|time travel]].<br />		{{plus}} Something prevents Hiro from causing a [[rift]] through [[space-time manipulation\|time travel]].<br />
			:{{minus}} There is no evidence supporting the fact that he hasn't already.<br />
	{{plus}} Despite painting a [[explosion\|grim future]], Nathan exhibits [[free will]] by flying Peter above [[New York City]].<br />		{{plus}} Despite painting a [[explosion\|grim future]], Nathan exhibits [[free will]] by flying Peter above [[New York City]].<br />
	{{plus}} [[Monica]] prayed that God would give her an exit from the slums of New Orleans. Her prayer appears to be answered in the form of [[Adoptive muscle memory\|an ability]].<br />		{{plus}} [[Monica]] prayed that God would give her an exit from the slums of New Orleans. Her prayer appears to be answered in the form of [[Adoptive muscle memory\|an ability]].<br />

imported>Formless at 03:58, 4 December 2009

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	:::{{minus}} This is not proof that King Midas existed in ''Heroes''.<br />		:::{{minus}} This is not proof that King Midas existed in ''Heroes''.<br />
	:{{minus}} According to the legend, King Midas wasn't an evolved human, he was cursed.<br />		:{{minus}} According to the legend, King Midas wasn't an evolved human, he was cursed.<br />
			::{{minus}} According to your logic, many of the current Heroes are "cursed" (i.e. Claire).<br />
	{{plus}} [[Takezo Kensei]] was a mythological Japanese hero. In reality, his story was the combination of the journeys of an [[Adam\|evolved human]] with [[rapid cell regeneration\|immortality]] and an [[Hiro\|evolved human]] with the power to [[space-time manipulation\|bend time and space]]. The legend was [[secrets\|exaggerated]] by [[Yaeko]]. (''[[Out of Time]]'')<br />		{{plus}} [[Takezo Kensei]] was a mythological Japanese hero. In reality, his story was the combination of the journeys of an [[Adam\|evolved human]] with [[rapid cell regeneration\|immortality]] and an [[Hiro\|evolved human]] with the power to [[space-time manipulation\|bend time and space]]. The legend was [[secrets\|exaggerated]] by [[Yaeko]]. (''[[Out of Time]]'')<br />
	{{plus}} [[Benjamin Franklin]] was an evolved human. (''[[A Lesson in Electricity]]'')<br />		{{plus}} [[Benjamin Franklin]] was an evolved human. (''[[A Lesson in Electricity]]'')<br />

imported>Intuitive Empath at 22:57, 10 September 2009

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imported>Altes at 05:29, 10 September 2009

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	{{plus}} Despite painting a [[explosion\|grim future]], Nathan exhibits [[free will]] by flying Peter above [[New York City]].<br />		{{plus}} Despite painting a [[explosion\|grim future]], Nathan exhibits [[free will]] by flying Peter above [[New York City]].<br />
	{{plus}} [[Monica]] prayed that God would give her an exit from the slums of New Orleans. Her prayer appears to be answered in the form of [[Adoptive muscle memory\|an ability]].<br />		{{plus}} [[Monica]] prayed that God would give her an exit from the slums of New Orleans. Her prayer appears to be answered in the form of [[Adoptive muscle memory\|an ability]].<br />
	:{{minus}} Coincidence. <br />		:{{minus}} Coincidence.<br />
	::{{plus}} There are no coincidences, only twists of fate. <br />		::{{plus}} There are no coincidences, only twists of fate.<br />
			:::{{minus}} There is no fate, only our choices and consequences.<br />
			:{{minus}} Abilities can be given with the help of the formula, not prayers.<br />
	{{plus}} [[The Symbol]] often appears with the "evolved humans." The symbol could be the "signature" of their ultimate designer (similar to how and artists signs his artwork). <br />		{{plus}} [[The Symbol]] often appears with the "evolved humans." The symbol could be the "signature" of their ultimate designer (similar to how and artists signs his artwork). <br />
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	::{{plus}} [[Ability\|Abilities]] repeat; [[Nathan]] and [[West]] can both [[flight\|fly]], [[Adam]] and [[Claire]] can both [[regenerate]], [[Maury]] and [[Matt]] are both [[telepathy\|telepathic]], [[Richard Drucker]] and [[Hana]] both have [[electronic data transception]], [[Meredith]] and [[the Company]] agent [[Maarten]] can both [[pyrokinesis\|manipulate fire]].<br />		::{{plus}} [[Ability\|Abilities]] repeat; [[Nathan]] and [[West]] can both [[flight\|fly]], [[Adam]] and [[Claire]] can both [[regenerate]], [[Maury]] and [[Matt]] are both [[telepathy\|telepathic]], [[Richard Drucker]] and [[Hana]] both have [[electronic data transception]], [[Meredith]] and [[the Company]] agent [[Maarten]] can both [[pyrokinesis\|manipulate fire]].<br />
	:::{{minus}} This is not proof that King Midas existed in ''Heroes''.<br />		:::{{minus}} This is not proof that King Midas existed in ''Heroes''.<br />
			:{{minus}} According to the legend, King Midas wasn't an evolved human, he was cursed.<br />
	::::{{note}} There is also no evidence to the contrary. <br />
	{{plus}} [[Takezo Kensei]] was a mythological Japanese hero. In reality, his story was the combination of the journeys of an [[Adam\|evolved human]] with [[rapid cell regeneration\|immortality]] and an [[Hiro\|evolved human]] with the power to [[space-time manipulation\|bend time and space]]. The legend was [[secrets\|exaggerated]] by [[Yaeko]]. (''[[Out of Time]]'')<br />		{{plus}} [[Takezo Kensei]] was a mythological Japanese hero. In reality, his story was the combination of the journeys of an [[Adam\|evolved human]] with [[rapid cell regeneration\|immortality]] and an [[Hiro\|evolved human]] with the power to [[space-time manipulation\|bend time and space]]. The legend was [[secrets\|exaggerated]] by [[Yaeko]]. (''[[Out of Time]]'')<br />
	{{plus}} [[Benjamin Franklin]] was an evolved human. (''[[A Lesson in Electricity]]'')<br />		{{plus}} [[Benjamin Franklin]] was an evolved human. (''[[A Lesson in Electricity]]'')<br />
	:{{minus}} Not a mythological figure.		:{{minus}} Not a mythological figure.
	{{plus}} [[Kaito]] tells [[Hiro]] that they have the power of gods, but should not play God. (''[[Cautionary Tales]]'')<br />		{{plus}} [[Kaito]] tells [[Hiro]] that they have the power of gods, but should not play God. (''[[Cautionary Tales]]'')<br />
	{{plus}} Certain evolved humans, such as [[Adam Monroe]], considered themselves Gods, and also played God. That being said, it only makes it natural to assume that at least some of the mythological figures were indeed evolved.
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	\| There is an incredibly powerful being guiding the events in ''Heroes'', whether it be God, a god, or an [[evolved human]]. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} Most of the [[prophecy\|prophecies]] made by [[Isaac]], [[Peter]] and [[Sylar]] are only relevant to the events that involve them; what are the chances that Isaac would [[precognition\|paint]] [[Hiro]]'s battle with [[Adam]] in ''[[Out of Time]]'' in the same series as the painting of [[Noah]] being shot by [[Mohinder]]? The events are 400 years apart. (''[[The Line]]'')<br />		\| There is an incredibly powerful being guiding the events in ''Heroes'', whether it be God, a god, or an [[evolved human]]. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} Most of the [[prophecy\|prophecies]] made by [[Isaac]], [[Peter]] and [[Sylar]] are only relevant to the events that involve them; what are the chances that Isaac would [[precognition\|paint]] [[Hiro]]'s battle with [[Adam]] in ''[[Out of Time]]'' in the same series as the painting of [[Noah]] being shot by [[Mohinder]]? The events are 400 years apart. (''[[The Line]]'')<br />
	{{plus}} Something prevents Hiro from causing a [[rift]] through [[space-time manipulation\|time travel]].<br />		{{plus}} Something prevents Hiro from causing a [[rift]] through [[space-time manipulation\|time travel]].<br />
			:{{minus}} There is no evidence supporting the fact that he hasn't already.<br />
	{{plus}} Despite painting a [[explosion\|grim future]], Nathan exhibits [[free will]] by flying Peter above [[New York City]].<br />		{{plus}} Despite painting a [[explosion\|grim future]], Nathan exhibits [[free will]] by flying Peter above [[New York City]].<br />
	{{plus}} [[Monica]] prayed that God would give her an exit from the slums of New Orleans. Her prayer appears to be answered in the form of [[Adoptive muscle memory\|an ability]].<br />		{{plus}} [[Monica]] prayed that God would give her an exit from the slums of New Orleans. Her prayer appears to be answered in the form of [[Adoptive muscle memory\|an ability]].<br />

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	\| There is an incredibly powerful being guiding the events in ''Heroes'', whether it be God, a god, or an [[evolved human]]. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} Most of the [[prophecy\|prophecies]] made by [[Isaac]], [[Peter]] and [[Sylar]] are only relevant to the events that involve them; what are the chances that Isaac would [[precognition\|paint]] [[Hiro]]'s battle with [[Adam]] in ''[[Out of Time]]'' in the same series as the painting of [[Noah]] being shot by [[Mohinder]]? The events are 400 years apart. (''[[The Line]]'')<br />		\| There is an incredibly powerful being guiding the events in ''Heroes'', whether it be God, a god, or an [[evolved human]]. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} Most of the [[prophecy\|prophecies]] made by [[Isaac]], [[Peter]] and [[Sylar]] are only relevant to the events that involve them; what are the chances that Isaac would [[precognition\|paint]] [[Hiro]]'s battle with [[Adam]] in ''[[Out of Time]]'' in the same series as the painting of [[Noah]] being shot by [[Mohinder]]? The events are 400 years apart. (''[[The Line]]'')<br />
	{{plus}} Something prevents Hiro from causing a [[rift]] through [[space-time manipulation\|time travel]].<br />		{{plus}} Something prevents Hiro from causing a [[rift]] through [[space-time manipulation\|time travel]].<br />
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	:::{{minus}} There is no fate, only our choices and consequences.<br />		:::{{minus}} There is no fate, only our choices and consequences.<br />
	:{{minus}} Abilities can be given with the help of the formula, not prayers.<br />		:{{minus}} Abilities can be given with the help of the formula, not prayers.<br />
	{{plus}} [[The Symbol]] often appears with the "evolved humans." The symbol could be the "signature" of their ultimate designer (similar to how and artists signs his artwork). <br />		{{plus}} [[The Symbol]] often appears with the "evolved humans." The symbol could be the "signature" of their ultimate designer (similar to how and artists signs his artwork).<br />
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	\| Mythological figures in the world of ''Heroes'' were actually evolved humans. \|\| None. \|\| {{minus}} ''Heroes'' will probably not touch upon cultural or religious legends as it may be taken offensively.<br />		\| Mythological figures in the world of ''Heroes'' were actually evolved humans. \|\| None. \|\| {{minus}} ''Heroes'' will probably not touch upon cultural or religious legends as it may be taken offensively.<br />
	{{plus}} [[Bob]] has the power to [[alchemy\|turn objects into gold]], like [[wikipedia:Midas\|King Midas]]. His computer password reflects the legend. (''[[Powerless]]'')		{{plus}} [[Bob]] has the power to [[alchemy\|turn objects into gold]], like [[wikipedia:Midas\|King Midas]]. His computer password reflects the legend. (''[[Powerless]]'')<br />
	:{{minus}} Bob is not King Midas. Bob lives in the present. King Midas (assuming he was real in ''Heroes'') lived in the past.<br />		:{{minus}} Bob is not King Midas. Bob lives in the present. King Midas (assuming he was real in ''Heroes'') lived in the past.<br />
	::{{plus}} [[Ability\|Abilities]] repeat; [[Nathan]] and [[West]] can both [[flight\|fly]], [[Adam]] and [[Claire]] can both [[regenerate]], [[Maury]] and [[Matt]] are both [[telepathy\|telepathic]], [[Richard Drucker]] and [[Hana]] both have [[electronic data transception]], [[Meredith]] and [[the Company]] agent [[Maarten]] can both [[pyrokinesis\|manipulate fire]].<br />		::{{plus}} [[Ability\|Abilities]] repeat; [[Nathan]] and [[West]] can both [[flight\|fly]], [[Adam]] and [[Claire]] can both [[regenerate]], [[Maury]] and [[Matt]] are both [[telepathy\|telepathic]], [[Richard Drucker]] and [[Hana]] both have [[electronic data transception]], [[Meredith]] and [[the Company]] agent [[Maarten]] can both [[pyrokinesis\|manipulate fire]].<br />
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	:{{minus}} Not a mythological figure.		:{{minus}} Not a mythological figure.
	{{plus}} [[Kaito]] tells [[Hiro]] that they have the power of gods, but should not play God. (''[[Cautionary Tales]]'')<br />		{{plus}} [[Kaito]] tells [[Hiro]] that they have the power of gods, but should not play God. (''[[Cautionary Tales]]'')<br />
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