Theory:Future Hiro's message - Revision history

imported>Witsfool at 08:51, 5 January 2010

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imported>Witsfool at 08:51, 5 January 2010

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	\| [[Claire]]'s survival was necessary to save the world, because she's the one who changes Nathan's mind to save Peter from exploding. If Claire wasn't alive, Nathan would have just let Peter explode instead of flying him up into the sky to explode. If [[Sylar]] had killed Claire, he would have gotten her power and [[Nathan]] would have never changed his mind about the bomb and [[Peter]] exploding. Even if he did change his mind, Sylar would have regenerated, so before Nathan could fly Peter out of there Sylar might have stopped them or killed them, taking their power and becoming too powerful for anyone to stop him. \|\| None \|\| {{minus}} It is clear in ''[[String Theory]]'' that [[Hiro]] thought that saving Claire would prevent Sylar from being able to regenerate after he was stabbed. Hiro thought that if Sylar didn't have that power, then he would have been killed and there would have been no explosion. Claire probably did affect Nathan's judgment, but that's not why Hiro told Peter to "save the cheerleader".<br />		\| [[Claire]]'s survival was necessary to save the world, because she's the one who changes Nathan's mind to save Peter from exploding. If Claire wasn't alive, Nathan would have just let Peter explode instead of flying him up into the sky to explode. If [[Sylar]] had killed Claire, he would have gotten her power and [[Nathan]] would have never changed his mind about the bomb and [[Peter]] exploding. Even if he did change his mind, Sylar would have regenerated, so before Nathan could fly Peter out of there Sylar might have stopped them or killed them, taking their power and becoming too powerful for anyone to stop him. \|\| None \|\| {{minus}} It is clear in ''[[String Theory]]'' that [[Hiro]] thought that saving Claire would prevent Sylar from being able to regenerate after he was stabbed. Hiro thought that if Sylar didn't have that power, then he would have been killed and there would have been no explosion. Claire probably did affect Nathan's judgment, but that's not why Hiro told Peter to "save the cheerleader".<br />
	{{note}} If Nathan hadn't have flown Peter away, he could still have been shot, but Claire may have been the only person able to get close enough to do it, so she would have been required either way. On the other hand, there appeared to be ample time to shoot Peter before his emissions became dangerous, as evidenced by he, Nathan and Claire being able to have a fairly long conversation before either Nathan or Claire suffered any immediate damage.<br />		{{note}} If Nathan hadn't have flown Peter away, he could still have been shot, but Claire may have been the only person able to get close enough to do it, so she would have been required either way. On the other hand, there appeared to be ample time to shoot Peter before his emissions became dangerous, as evidenced by he, Nathan and Claire being able to have a fairly long conversation before either Nathan or Claire suffered any immediate damage.<br />
			{{note}} Hiro's mission from the future was based off of mis-information. Everyone except Nathan and Peter were under the impression that Sylar had exploded. So it was logical to assume that if he was not able to heal, the sword thrust would have killed him and prevented him from exploding.<br />
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	\| [[Claire]]'s life isn't the the thing that needs to be saved, Claire needs to be saved from going to 'the dark side'. \|\| None \|\| {{note}} This would be an interesting plot development for character.<br />		\| [[Claire]]'s life isn't the the thing that needs to be saved, Claire needs to be saved from going to 'the dark side'. \|\| None \|\| {{note}} This would be an interesting plot development for character.<br />

imported>Altes at 16:03, 12 December 2009

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	\| [[Claire]]'s survival was necessary to save the world, because she's the one who changes Nathan's mind to save Peter from exploding. If Claire wasn't alive, Nathan would have just let Peter explode instead of flying him up into the sky to explode. If [[Sylar]] had killed Claire, he would have gotten her power and [[Nathan]] would have never changed his mind about the bomb and [[Peter]] exploding. Even if he did change his mind, [[Sylar]] would have regenerated, so before [[Nathan]] could fly [[Peter]] out of there [[Sylar]] might have stopped them or killed them, taking their power and becoming too powerful for anyone to stop him. \|\| None. \|\| {{minus}} It is clear in ''[[String Theory]]'' that [[Hiro]] thought that saving Claire would prevent Sylar from being able to regenerate after he was stabbed. Hiro thought that if Sylar didn't have that power, then he would have been killed and there would have been no explosion. Claire probably did affect Nathan's judgment, but that's not why Hiro told Peter to "save the cheerleader". <br />		\| [[Claire]]'s survival was necessary to save the world, because she's the one who changes Nathan's mind to save Peter from exploding. If Claire wasn't alive, Nathan would have just let Peter explode instead of flying him up into the sky to explode. If [[Sylar]] had killed Claire, he would have gotten her power and [[Nathan]] would have never changed his mind about the bomb and [[Peter]] exploding. Even if he did change his mind, Sylar would have regenerated, so before Nathan could fly Peter out of there Sylar might have stopped them or killed them, taking their power and becoming too powerful for anyone to stop him. \|\| None \|\| {{minus}} It is clear in ''[[String Theory]]'' that [[Hiro]] thought that saving Claire would prevent Sylar from being able to regenerate after he was stabbed. Hiro thought that if Sylar didn't have that power, then he would have been killed and there would have been no explosion. Claire probably did affect Nathan's judgment, but that's not why Hiro told Peter to "save the cheerleader".<br />
	{{note}} If Nathan hadn't have flown Peter away, he could still have been shot, but Claire may have been the only person able to get close enough to do it, so she would have been required either way. On the other hand, there appeared to be ample time to shoot Peter before his emissions became dangerous, as evidenced by he, Nathan and Claire being able to have a fairly long conversation before either Nathan or Claire suffered any immediate damage.<br />		{{note}} If Nathan hadn't have flown Peter away, he could still have been shot, but Claire may have been the only person able to get close enough to do it, so she would have been required either way. On the other hand, there appeared to be ample time to shoot Peter before his emissions became dangerous, as evidenced by he, Nathan and Claire being able to have a fairly long conversation before either Nathan or Claire suffered any immediate damage.<br />
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	\| [[Claire]]'s life isn't the the thing that needs to be saved, Claire needs to be saved from going to 'the dark side'. \|\| None. \|\| {{note}} This would be an interesting plot development for character.<br />		\| [[Claire]]'s life isn't the the thing that needs to be saved, Claire needs to be saved from going to 'the dark side'. \|\| None \|\| {{note}} This would be an interesting plot development for character.<br />
	{{plus}} She has done some bad things but had good intentions for it, if she were to do bad things for no good purpose she would be virtually unstoppable.<br />		{{plus}} She has done some bad things but had good intentions for it, if she were to do bad things for no good purpose she would be virtually unstoppable.<br />
	:{{minus}} Claire has admited that she has a spot that "shuts [her] down".<br />		:{{minus}} Claire has admited that she has a spot that "shuts [her] down".<br />

imported>Altes: it happened in the future, and it did in the present

2009-11-28T13:06:05Z

it happened in the future, and it did in the present

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	\| If [[Sylar]] is able to gain [[Claire]]'s power, he will become indestructible and a bigger threat than he would be otherwise. \|\| In ''[[String Theory]]'' it is revealed that [[Future Hiro]] enlisted [[Peter Petrelli\|Peter's]] help in order to stop [[Sylar]] from getting [[Claire]]'s power.\|\| {{minus}}[[Claire]] could be killed by [[Sylar]] in the [[Dark Future]]. (''[[Five Years Gone]]''). So, if [[Sylar]] gained [[Claire]]'s power it wouldn't necessarily mean that he'd become indestructible, since [[Claire]] could be killed while possessing [[Rapid cell regeneration\|her power]].
	:{{minus}} Sylar takes Claire's ability in ''[[The Second Coming]]'', and she not only heals, but he tells her that she can not die...<br />
	{{plus}} And with her ability, he can't either.<br />
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	\| [[Claire]]'s survival was necessary to save the world, because she's the one who changes Nathan's mind to save Peter from exploding. If Claire wasn't alive, Nathan would have just let Peter explode instead of flying him up into the sky to explode. If [[Sylar]] had killed Claire, he would have gotten her power and [[Nathan]] would have never changed his mind about the bomb and [[Peter]] exploding. Even if he did change his mind, [[Sylar]] would have regenerated, so before [[Nathan]] could fly [[Peter]] out of there [[Sylar]] might have stopped them or killed them, taking their power and becoming too powerful for anyone to stop him. \|\| None. \|\| {{minus}} It is clear in ''[[String Theory]]'' that [[Hiro]] thought that saving Claire would prevent Sylar from being able to regenerate after he was stabbed. Hiro thought that if Sylar didn't have that power, then he would have been killed and there would have been no explosion. Claire probably did affect Nathan's judgment, but that's not why Hiro told Peter to "save the cheerleader". <br />		\| [[Claire]]'s survival was necessary to save the world, because she's the one who changes Nathan's mind to save Peter from exploding. If Claire wasn't alive, Nathan would have just let Peter explode instead of flying him up into the sky to explode. If [[Sylar]] had killed Claire, he would have gotten her power and [[Nathan]] would have never changed his mind about the bomb and [[Peter]] exploding. Even if he did change his mind, [[Sylar]] would have regenerated, so before [[Nathan]] could fly [[Peter]] out of there [[Sylar]] might have stopped them or killed them, taking their power and becoming too powerful for anyone to stop him. \|\| None. \|\| {{minus}} It is clear in ''[[String Theory]]'' that [[Hiro]] thought that saving Claire would prevent Sylar from being able to regenerate after he was stabbed. Hiro thought that if Sylar didn't have that power, then he would have been killed and there would have been no explosion. Claire probably did affect Nathan's judgment, but that's not why Hiro told Peter to "save the cheerleader". <br />

imported>Criminally Vulgar: Took out my old theory about Claire needing to be saved if she's the catalyst- she's not; she doesn't need to be.

2009-04-17T03:40:24Z

Took out my old theory about Claire needing to be saved if she's the catalyst- she's not; she doesn't need to be.

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	\| [[Claire]]'s survival was necessary to save the world, because she's the one who changes Nathan's mind to save Peter from exploding. If Claire wasn't alive, Nathan would have just let Peter explode instead of flying him up into the sky to explode. If [[Sylar]] had killed Claire, he would have gotten her power and [[Nathan]] would have never changed his mind about the bomb and [[Peter]] exploding. Even if he did change his mind, [[Sylar]] would have regenerated, so before [[Nathan]] could fly [[Peter]] out of there [[Sylar]] might have stopped them or killed them, taking their power and becoming too powerful for anyone to stop him. \|\| None. \|\| {{minus}} It is clear in ''[[String Theory]]'' that [[Hiro]] thought that saving Claire would prevent Sylar from being able to regenerate after he was stabbed. Hiro thought that if Sylar didn't have that power, then he would have been killed and there would have been no explosion. Claire probably did affect Nathan's judgment, but that's not why Hiro told Peter to "save the cheerleader". <br />		\| [[Claire]]'s survival was necessary to save the world, because she's the one who changes Nathan's mind to save Peter from exploding. If Claire wasn't alive, Nathan would have just let Peter explode instead of flying him up into the sky to explode. If [[Sylar]] had killed Claire, he would have gotten her power and [[Nathan]] would have never changed his mind about the bomb and [[Peter]] exploding. Even if he did change his mind, [[Sylar]] would have regenerated, so before [[Nathan]] could fly [[Peter]] out of there [[Sylar]] might have stopped them or killed them, taking their power and becoming too powerful for anyone to stop him. \|\| None. \|\| {{minus}} It is clear in ''[[String Theory]]'' that [[Hiro]] thought that saving Claire would prevent Sylar from being able to regenerate after he was stabbed. Hiro thought that if Sylar didn't have that power, then he would have been killed and there would have been no explosion. Claire probably did affect Nathan's judgment, but that's not why Hiro told Peter to "save the cheerleader". <br />
	{{note}} If Nathan hadn't have flown Peter away, he could still have been shot, but Claire may have been the only person able to get close enough to do it, so she would have been required either way. On the other hand, there appeared to be ample time to shoot Peter before his emissions became dangerous, as evidenced by he, Nathan and Claire being able to have a fairly long conversation before either Nathan or Claire suffered any immediate damage.<br />		{{note}} If Nathan hadn't have flown Peter away, he could still have been shot, but Claire may have been the only person able to get close enough to do it, so she would have been required either way. On the other hand, there appeared to be ample time to shoot Peter before his emissions became dangerous, as evidenced by he, Nathan and Claire being able to have a fairly long conversation before either Nathan or Claire suffered any immediate damage.<br />
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	\| If [[Claire]] is "the catalyst" needed to perfect the [[formula]], saving her will be crucial, otherwise, people may suffer from the same effects that [[Mohinder]] is, after he got [[Mohinder's ability\|his ability]]. \|\| None. \|\|
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	\| [[Claire]]'s life isn't the the thing that needs to be saved, Claire needs to be saved from going to 'the dark side'. \|\| None. \|\| {{note}} This would be an interesting plot development for character.<br />		\| [[Claire]]'s life isn't the the thing that needs to be saved, Claire needs to be saved from going to 'the dark side'. \|\| None. \|\| {{note}} This would be an interesting plot development for character.<br />

imported>Intuitive Empath: that's not a theory, it's a confirmed fact

2009-01-29T17:49:49Z

that's not a theory, it's a confirmed fact

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	:{{plus}} When [[Brody Mitchum]] tried to [[rape]] (and accidentally "killed" her), she took revenge, hospitalising him through a car crash. Claire has proven herself willing to hurt those who hurt her. If the future takes a path that puts her at constant risk, she may start retaliate against any who cross her. By averting this path, it could yet be possible to save the world.<br />		:{{plus}} When [[Brody Mitchum]] tried to [[rape]] (and accidentally "killed" her), she took revenge, hospitalising him through a car crash. Claire has proven herself willing to hurt those who hurt her. If the future takes a path that puts her at constant risk, she may start retaliate against any who cross her. By averting this path, it could yet be possible to save the world.<br />
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	\| Nathan told everybody that sylar was the one who exploded to protect peter and that's why hiro tought that killing sylar would stop the bomb but if He had known that Peter was the one who exploded he had taken other steps to prevent that \|\| Peter told niki that nathan lied to protect him "Five years gone". \|\|
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imported>Sylar0120 at 17:17, 29 January 2009

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	:{{plus}} When [[Brody Mitchum]] tried to [[rape]] (and accidentally "killed" her), she took revenge, hospitalising him through a car crash. Claire has proven herself willing to hurt those who hurt her. If the future takes a path that puts her at constant risk, she may start retaliate against any who cross her. By averting this path, it could yet be possible to save the world.<br />		:{{plus}} When [[Brody Mitchum]] tried to [[rape]] (and accidentally "killed" her), she took revenge, hospitalising him through a car crash. Claire has proven herself willing to hurt those who hurt her. If the future takes a path that puts her at constant risk, she may start retaliate against any who cross her. By averting this path, it could yet be possible to save the world.<br />
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	\| Nathan told everybody that sylar was the one who exploded to protect peter and that's why hiro tought that killing sylar would stop the bomb but if He had known that Peter was the one who exploded he had taken other steps to prevent that		\| Nathan told everybody that sylar was the one who exploded to protect peter and that's why hiro tought that killing sylar would stop the bomb but if He had known that Peter was the one who exploded he had taken other steps to prevent that \|\| Peter told niki that nathan lied to protect him "Five years gone". \|\|
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imported>Sylar0120 at 17:15, 29 January 2009

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	:{{plus}} When [[Brody Mitchum]] tried to [[rape]] (and accidentally "killed" her), she took revenge, hospitalising him through a car crash. Claire has proven herself willing to hurt those who hurt her. If the future takes a path that puts her at constant risk, she may start retaliate against any who cross her. By averting this path, it could yet be possible to save the world.<br />		:{{plus}} When [[Brody Mitchum]] tried to [[rape]] (and accidentally "killed" her), she took revenge, hospitalising him through a car crash. Claire has proven herself willing to hurt those who hurt her. If the future takes a path that puts her at constant risk, she may start retaliate against any who cross her. By averting this path, it could yet be possible to save the world.<br />
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			\| Nathan told everybody that sylar was the one who exploded to protect peter and that's why hiro tought that killing sylar would stop the bomb but if He had known that Peter was the one who exploded he had taken other steps to prevent that
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imported>Thrashmeister: rm afd; There are already theories extending beyond the explosion

2009-01-21T01:03:04Z

rm afd; There are already theories extending beyond the explosion

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imported>Ambro.Baby: theory fuuu~

2009-01-20T22:29:04Z

theory fuuu~

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	:{{minus}} Claire has admited that she has a spot that "shuts [her] down".<br />		:{{minus}} Claire has admited that she has a spot that "shuts [her] down".<br />
	{{note}} Virtually, and it would only make it harder for them to kill her since she knows the spot and will likely to take measures to keep it from getting hit.<br />		{{note}} Virtually, and it would only make it harder for them to kill her since she knows the spot and will likely to take measures to keep it from getting hit.<br />
			{{plus}} In ''[[Dual]]'', Claire [[Brain penetration\|stabbed Sylar in the head]] with a glass shard. This is the first time she has committed a murder. And her motivation was largely a consequence of being attacked by Sylar in ''[[One of Us, One of Them]]''. This could indicate the beginning of a slippery slope.<br />
			:{{plus}} When [[Brody Mitchum]] tried to [[rape]] (and accidentally "killed" her), she took revenge, hospitalising him through a car crash. Claire has proven herself willing to hurt those who hurt her. If the future takes a path that puts her at constant risk, she may start retaliate against any who cross her. By averting this path, it could yet be possible to save the world.<br />
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