Theory:Ishi Nakamura - Revision history

imported>Locmalibu42: Added a thought to a theory.

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Added a thought to a theory.

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imported>Locmalibu42: Added a thought to a theory.

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Added a thought to a theory.

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	::{{plus}} He could be lying.<br />		::{{plus}} He could be lying.<br />
	:::{{minus}} Lying to his dying wife?<br />		:::{{minus}} Lying to his dying wife?<br />
	{{plus}} That would explain why it was originally given to [[Claire]], as she [[rapid cell regeneration\|heals]].<br />		{{plus}} That would explain why it was originally given to [[Claire]], as she [[rapid cell regeneration\|heals]]. Had Kaito known that, he would certainly have realized that another regenerator is the only real way to preserve the catalyst forever. <br />
	:{{minus}} Claire didn't manifest her ability until later in life, they couldn't possibly know she'd have an ability, and which ability at that point.<br />		:{{minus}} Claire didn't manifest her ability until later in life, they couldn't possibly know she'd have an ability, and which ability at that point.<br />
	::{{plus}} The company could have a member with [[precognition]].<br />		::{{plus}} The company could have a member with [[precognition]].<br />
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	\| [[Ishi]]'s carrying the [[Catalyst]] was extending her life. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} She died right after passing the catalyst to Hiro.<br />		\| [[Ishi]]'s carrying the [[Catalyst]] was extending her life. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} She died right after passing the catalyst to Hiro.<br />
	{{minus}} The Catalyst didn't ~~extent~~ [[Arthur]]'s life when he was shot.~~<br />~~		{{minus}} The Catalyst didn't necessarily extend [[Arthur]]'s life when he was shot.

			{{note}} But it's possible it did, however infinitesimally.<br />
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	\| [[Ishi]] was infected with the [[Shanti virus]]. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} She died shortly after using her ability, could be a symptom of the virus.<br />		\| [[Ishi]] was infected with the [[Shanti virus]]. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} She died shortly after using her ability, could be a symptom of the virus.<br />

imported>Intuitive Empath at 22:10, 11 May 2010

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	:{{minus}} Linderman used his ability many times during his time in the war, he was never implied to feel tired or drained when he did it.<br />		:{{minus}} Linderman used his ability many times during his time in the war, he was never implied to feel tired or drained when he did it.<br />
	:{{minus}} These two versions of healing are confirmed to work differently. Linderman just healed, but the [[healing touch\|healing ability]] Peter absorbed controlled the flow of life in something. He gave his life force to the person that needed healing, making him feel drained.<br />		:{{minus}} These two versions of healing are confirmed to work differently. Linderman just healed, but the [[healing touch\|healing ability]] Peter absorbed controlled the flow of life in something. He gave his life force to the person that needed healing, making him feel drained.<br />
			::{{note}} Peter's exhaustion was never confirmed to be due to him transferring his own life or health with the ability, it could be simple overuse of the ability.<br />
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imported>Kyogre blast at 12:56, 11 May 2010

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	\| Ishi had a brain tumor or an aneurysm. \|\| Sometimes abilities lead to these. \|\| {{plus}} Peter felt drained after healing too many people. Ishi was a healer too, and she used her ability twice in a single episode.<br />		\| Ishi had a brain tumor or an aneurysm. \|\| Sometimes abilities lead to these. \|\| {{plus}} Peter felt drained after healing too many people. Ishi was a healer too, and she used her ability twice in a single episode.<br />
	:{{minus}} Linderman used his ability many times during his time in the war, he was never implied to feel tired or drained when he did it.<br />		:{{minus}} Linderman used his ability many times during his time in the war, he was never implied to feel tired or drained when he did it.<br />
			:{{minus}} These two versions of healing are confirmed to work differently. Linderman just healed, but the [[healing touch\|healing ability]] Peter absorbed controlled the flow of life in something. He gave his life force to the person that needed healing, making him feel drained.<br />
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imported>Intuitive Empath at 15:50, 28 February 2010

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	{{minus}} It's only [[Sylar]], [[Tracy]] and [[Adam]] who came back from dead, they were unconfirmed deaths. Others, who were killed, confirmed dead by doctors and buried, never returned.<br />		{{minus}} It's only [[Sylar]], [[Tracy]] and [[Adam]] who came back from dead, they were unconfirmed deaths. Others, who were killed, confirmed dead by doctors and buried, never returned.<br />
	{{plus}} Arthur was confirmed dead by a doctor, though he was mentally manipulated.<br />		{{plus}} Arthur was confirmed dead by a doctor, though he was mentally manipulated.<br />
			:{{minus}} The doctor was never implied to have been manipulated by Arthur.<br />
	{{minus}} Ishi died in Hiro's arms. She is pretty much dead.<br />		{{minus}} Ishi died in Hiro's arms. She is pretty much dead.<br />
	{{minus}} Hiro's interference caused Ishi to die at a different time (1991). It was possible she might have faked her death explained the writer's inconsistency.<br />		{{minus}} Hiro's interference caused Ishi to die at a different time (1991). It was possible she might have faked her death explained the writer's inconsistency.<br />
			:{{note}} Not every writer mistake is to be explained by retconning.<br />
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	\| [[Ishi]]'s condition was caused by her carrying the [[Catalyst]]. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} Kaito was unwilling to let her give Hiro the catalyst.<br />		\| [[Ishi]]'s condition was caused by her carrying the [[Catalyst]]. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} Kaito was unwilling to let her give Hiro the catalyst.<br />

imported>Blood69 at 05:27, 28 February 2010

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	{{minus}} It's only [[Sylar]], [[Tracy]] and [[Adam]] who came back from dead, they were unconfirmed deaths. Others, who were killed, confirmed dead by doctors and buried, never returned.<br />		{{minus}} It's only [[Sylar]], [[Tracy]] and [[Adam]] who came back from dead, they were unconfirmed deaths. Others, who were killed, confirmed dead by doctors and buried, never returned.<br />
	{{plus}} Arthur was confirmed dead by a doctor, though he was mentally manipulated.<br />		{{plus}} Arthur was confirmed dead by a doctor, though he was mentally manipulated.<br />
	:{{minus}} ~~The~~ ~~doctor~~ ~~was~~ ~~never~~ ~~implied~~ to ~~have~~ ~~been~~ ~~manipulated~~ ~~by Arthur~~.<br />		{{minus}} Ishi died in Hiro's arms. She is pretty much dead.<br />
			{{minus}} Hiro's interference caused Ishi to die at a different time (1991). It was possible she might have faked her death explained the writer's inconsistency.<br />
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	\| [[Ishi]]'s condition was caused by her carrying the [[Catalyst]]. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} Kaito was unwilling to let her give Hiro the catalyst.<br />		\| [[Ishi]]'s condition was caused by her carrying the [[Catalyst]]. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} Kaito was unwilling to let her give Hiro the catalyst.<br />

imported>Intuitive Empath at 16:38, 11 November 2009

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imported>Altes at 07:00, 11 November 2009

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	:{{minus}} Hiro can time travel, but like in Season One he cannot control it.<br />		:{{minus}} Hiro can time travel, but like in Season One he cannot control it.<br />
	{{minus}} Unlike with Hiro, Peter's ability works just fine and doesn't need [[healing]].<br />		{{minus}} Unlike with Hiro, Peter's ability works just fine and doesn't need [[healing]].<br />
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imported>Altes: Hiro can time travel again, some theories need to be fixed

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Hiro can time travel again, some theories need to be fixed

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	\| [[Ishi]]'s ability only works by giving a kiss. \|\| In [[Our Father]] she kisses the dove to heal it and kisses [[Hiro]] to return his memory. \|\| {{plus}} She couldn't heal herself of what she was dying from.<br />		\| [[Ishi]]'s ability only works by giving a kiss. \|\| In [[Our Father]] she kisses the dove to heal it and kisses [[Hiro]] to return his memory. \|\| {{plus}} She couldn't heal herself of what she was dying from.<br />
	:{{minus}} Nothing prevents her from kissing her own hand or something similar.<br />		:{{minus}} Nothing prevents her from kissing her own hand or something similar.<br />
	:{{note}} It was said in a BTE interview that her ability is like Linderman's, having similar limits.<br />		::{{note}} It was said in a BTE interview that her ability is like Linderman's, having similar limits.<br />
	{{plus}} Some powers are triggered by adrenaline, but not all of them. Still, almost each power requires a specific emotion or a state of consciousness to activate it. Considering that, it is very likely that Ishi's power requires some positive emotions, which can be expressed through a kiss.<br />		{{plus}} Some powers are triggered by adrenaline, but not all of them. Still, almost each power requires a specific emotion or a state of consciousness to activate it. Considering that, it is very likely that Ishi's power requires some positive emotions, which can be expressed through a kiss.<br />
	:{{minus}} It doesn't mean she has to kiss someone or something in order to express positive feelings. A smile could do that.<br />		:{{minus}} It doesn't mean she has to kiss someone or something in order to express positive feelings. A smile could do that.<br />
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	\| [[Ishi]]'s ability can restore [[Peter]] and [[Hiro]]'s lost abilities. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} She had the catalyst when she was alive, which is closely related to granting abilities.<br />		\| [[Ishi]]'s ability can restore [[Peter]] and [[Hiro]]'s lost abilities. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} She had the catalyst when she was alive, which is closely related to granting abilities.<br />
	:{{minus}} The formula gives abilities, it's unknown if the Catalyst itself can do it.<br />		:{{minus}} The formula gives abilities, it's unknown if the Catalyst itself can do it.<br />
	{{plus}} She is accessible via time travel~~, since both [[Ando]] and [[Daphne]] are alive and have their powers~~.<br />		{{plus}} She is accessible via time travel.<br />
	:{{minus}} [[Daphne]] is dead.<br />
	:{{minus}} Writers have stated that they won't be using time travel anymore.<br />
	::{{plus}} That's not true, they used time travel in Volume 5.<br />
	{{plus}} [[Matt Parkman, Jr.'s ability]] partially restored Hiro's ability.<br />		{{plus}} [[Matt Parkman, Jr.'s ability]] partially restored Hiro's ability.<br />
	:{{minus}} Hiro ~~still cannot~~ time travel, ~~and~~ ~~his~~ ~~current~~ ~~ability~~ is ~~corrupted~~.<br />		:{{minus}} Hiro can time travel, but like in Season One he cannot control it.<br />
	:{{~~plus~~}} ~~Hiro~~ ~~can~~ ~~time travel~~, ~~but~~ ~~like~~ in ~~Season~~ ~~One~~ he ~~cannot~~ ~~control~~ it.<br />		{{minus}} Unlike with Hiro, Peter's ability works just fine and doesn't need [[healing]].<br />
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	:{{minus}} The formula gives abilities, it's unknown if the Catalyst itself can do it.<br />		:{{minus}} The formula gives abilities, it's unknown if the Catalyst itself can do it.<br />
	{{plus}} She is accessible via time travel, since both [[Ando]] and [[Daphne]] are alive and have their powers.<br />		{{plus}} She is accessible via time travel, since both [[Ando]] and [[Daphne]] are alive and have their powers.<br />
			:{{minus}} [[Daphne]] is dead.<br />
	:{{minus}} Writers have stated that they won't be using time travel anymore.<br />		:{{minus}} Writers have stated that they won't be using time travel anymore.<br />
	:{{~~minus~~}} ~~Daphne~~ is ~~dead~~.<br />		::{{plus}} That's not true, they used time travel in Volume 5.<br />
	{{plus}} [[Matt Parkman, Jr.'s ability]] partially restored Hiro's ability.<br />		{{plus}} [[Matt Parkman, Jr.'s ability]] partially restored Hiro's ability.<br />
	:{{minus}} Hiro still cannot time travel, and his current ability is corrupted.<br />		:{{minus}} Hiro still cannot time travel, and his current ability is corrupted.<br />
			:{{plus}} Hiro can time travel, but like in Season One he cannot control it.<br />
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	\| [[Ishi]] is still alive. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} Many people thought to be dead in this show have actually come back to life.<br />		\| [[Ishi]] is still alive. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} Many people thought to be dead in this show have actually come back to life.<br />
	{{minus}} It's only [[Sylar]], [[Tracy]] and [[Adam]] who came back from dead, they were unconfirmed deaths. Others, who were killed, confirmed dead by doctors and buried, never returned.<br />		{{minus}} It's only [[Sylar]], [[Tracy]] and [[Adam]] who came back from dead, they were unconfirmed deaths. Others, who were killed, confirmed dead by doctors and buried, never returned.<br />
	{{plus}} Arthur was confirmed dead by a doctor, though he was mentally manipulated.<br />		{{plus}} Arthur was confirmed dead by a doctor, though he was mentally manipulated.<br />
	:{{minus}} The doctor was never implied to have been manipulated by Arthur.<br />		:{{minus}} The doctor was never implied to have been manipulated by Arthur.<br />
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	\| [[Ishi]]'s condition was caused by her carrying the [[Catalyst]]. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} Kaito was unwilling to let her give Hiro the catalyst.<br />		\| [[Ishi]]'s condition was caused by her carrying the [[Catalyst]]. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} Kaito was unwilling to let her give Hiro the catalyst.<br />
	:{{minus}} His reason was that he thought Hiro was irresponsible.<br />		:{{minus}} His reason was that he thought Hiro was irresponsible.<br />
	::{{plus}} He could be lying.<br />		::{{plus}} He could be lying.<br />
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	:::::{{minus}} Smoke rises, cribs aren't as high as ceilings, and Claire as a baby isn't that tall either, there wouldn't be enough smoke to affect her at that level.<br />		:::::{{minus}} Smoke rises, cribs aren't as high as ceilings, and Claire as a baby isn't that tall either, there wouldn't be enough smoke to affect her at that level.<br />
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	\| [[Ishi]]'s carrying the [[Catalyst]] was extending her life. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} She died right after passing the catalyst to Hiro.<br />		\| [[Ishi]]'s carrying the [[Catalyst]] was extending her life. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} She died right after passing the catalyst to Hiro.<br />
	{{minus}} The Catalyst didn't extent [[Arthur]]'s life when he was shot.<br />		{{minus}} The Catalyst didn't extent [[Arthur]]'s life when he was shot.<br />
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	\| [[Ishi]] was infected with the [[Shanti virus]]. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} She died shortly after using her ability, could be a symptom of the virus.<br />		\| [[Ishi]] was infected with the [[Shanti virus]]. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} She died shortly after using her ability, could be a symptom of the virus.<br />
	:{{minus}} The virus suppresses abilities.<br />		:{{minus}} The virus suppresses abilities.<br />
	::{{plus}} It could be a mutated strain of the virus.<br />		::{{plus}} It could be a mutated strain of the virus.<br />
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	:::::{{minus}} The original Shanti virus, the one taken from [[Shanti]], did suppress abilities, and the Company's goal was to create something which would render evolved humans powerless, which means all of its strains suppress powers.<br />		:::::{{minus}} The original Shanti virus, the one taken from [[Shanti]], did suppress abilities, and the Company's goal was to create something which would render evolved humans powerless, which means all of its strains suppress powers.<br />
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	\| [[Ishi]]'s ability is to transfer illnesses or other things to or from herself. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} Rather than heal, she may be absorbing the illness. This would explain why she is dying, she has been absorbing other illnesses.<br />		\| [[Ishi]]'s ability is to transfer illnesses or other things to or from herself. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} Rather than heal, she may be absorbing the illness. This would explain why she is dying, she has been absorbing other illnesses.<br />
	{{minus}} Ishi didn't seem to lose her memory after healing Hiro.<br />		{{minus}} Ishi didn't seem to lose her memory after healing Hiro.<br />
	{{minus}} There's no way she could restore someone else's memories if that was the case.<br />		{{minus}} There's no way she could restore someone else's memories if that was the case.<br />
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	:{{minus}} It doesn't mean she has to kiss someone or something in order to express positive feelings. A smile could do that.<br />		:{{minus}} It doesn't mean she has to kiss someone or something in order to express positive feelings. A smile could do that.<br />
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	\| [[Ishi]]'s ability can restore [[Peter]] and [[Hiro]]'s lost abilities. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} She had the catalyst when she was alive, which is closely related to granting abilities.<br />		\| [[Ishi]]'s ability can restore [[Peter]] and [[Hiro]]'s lost abilities. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} She had the catalyst when she was alive, which is closely related to granting abilities.<br />
	:{{minus}} The formula gives abilities, it's unknown if the Catalyst itself can do it.<br />		:{{minus}} The formula gives abilities, it's unknown if the Catalyst itself can do it.<br />
	{{plus}} She is accessible via time travel.<br />		{{plus}} She is accessible via time travel.<br />
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	\| Ishi had a brain tumor or an aneurysm. \|\| Sometimes abilities lead to these. \|\| {{plus}} Peter felt drained after healing too many people. Ishi was a healer too, and she used her ability twice in a single episode.<br />		\| Ishi had a brain tumor or an aneurysm. \|\| Sometimes abilities lead to these. \|\| {{plus}} Peter felt drained after healing too many people. Ishi was a healer too, and she used her ability twice in a single episode.<br />
			:{{minus}} Linderman used his ability many times during his time in the war, he was never implied to feel tired or drained when he did it.<br />
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