Theory:Nathan Petrelli - Revision history

imported>Josh: disproven, Nathan doesn't have RCR

2010-02-14T14:52:03Z

disproven, Nathan doesn't have RCR

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imported>Josh: disproven, Nathan doesn't have RCR

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disproven, Nathan doesn't have RCR

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 :{{minus}} Nathan can't possibly have an attachment to Claire the same way he has for his boys, him turning Micah in says it pretty clear: he'll turn anyone who's not his family, regardless of any connection to him.<br />
 ::{{minus}} Nathan was willing to imprison Peter after it became clear that he couldn't manipulate Peter anymore.<br />
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 | The reason why Nathan survived after being shot by [[Peter Petrelli (exposed future)|Future Peter]] is because [[Paradox|his destiny was to die much later]]. || Nathan fully recovered in hours without any abilities involved. || {{plus}} For some reason, Hiro was unable to save [[Charlie]] at least from Sylar, if not from the blood clot in her brain. The cases are identical - both involve a [[Space-time manipulation|time traveler]] who wishes to change the past in order to save lives, and both Hiro and Peter have failed.<br />

imported>D and d 123 at 17:48, 30 December 2009

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	{{minus}} There hasn't been any definitive, conclusive evidence that Hitler had indeed Jewish heritage.<br />		{{minus}} There hasn't been any definitive, conclusive evidence that Hitler had indeed Jewish heritage.<br />
	:{{note}} Well, yes there have been. Hitler did have a female Jewish ancestor, which is how Judaism (internally) defines Jewishness. There's no evidence he was ever a practicing Jew.<br />		:{{note}} Well, yes there have been. Hitler did have a female Jewish ancestor, which is how Judaism (internally) defines Jewishness. There's no evidence he was ever a practicing Jew.<br />
			:{{note}} According to the laws which Hitler passed, anyone with Jewish ancestry (going back three or four generations) was considered a Jew, regardless of their religious practices. Hitler thought of the Jews as being a race, not a religion.<br />
	{{note}} Nathan and Niki did have common grounds which they both knew, besides sleeping with each other: he wouldn't want to put his kids through something like that, yet he's willing to do it to another child who has control over their ability? No mercy unless blood related to him, otherwise he'd feel guilty.<br />		{{note}} Nathan and Niki did have common grounds which they both knew, besides sleeping with each other: he wouldn't want to put his kids through something like that, yet he's willing to do it to another child who has control over their ability? No mercy unless blood related to him, otherwise he'd feel guilty.<br />
	:{{minus}} Nathan can't possibly have an attachment to Claire the same way he has for his boys, him turning Micah in says it pretty clear: he'll turn anyone who's not his family, regardless of any connection to him.<br />		:{{minus}} Nathan can't possibly have an attachment to Claire the same way he has for his boys, him turning Micah in says it pretty clear: he'll turn anyone who's not his family, regardless of any connection to him.<br />

imported>PJDEP at 20:22, 16 December 2009

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	:{{minus}} Nathan's ability is synthetic, it makes sense for his ability to be different.<br />		:{{minus}} Nathan's ability is synthetic, it makes sense for his ability to be different.<br />
	::{{plus}} Peter's new synthetic ability is very alike to the original one.<br />		::{{plus}} Peter's new synthetic ability is very alike to the original one.<br />
			:::{{minus}} Peter had the genetic code for abilities however. Nathan was born without it.<br />
	{{plus}} [[West]] was captured from the company so he could be the original donor of fight.<br />		{{plus}} [[West]] was captured from the company so he could be the original donor of fight.<br />
	:{{minus}} Nathan had no involvement with the Company affairs after being injected with the formula, at least until after manifesting his ability.<br />		:{{minus}} Nathan had no involvement with the Company affairs after being injected with the formula, at least until after manifesting his ability.<br />

imported>PJDEP at 20:21, 16 December 2009

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	::::::::{{note}} Either way, it proves that in the world of ''Heroes'', consciousness can remain after death.<br />		::::::::{{note}} Either way, it proves that in the world of ''Heroes'', consciousness can remain after death.<br />
	:::::::::{{note}} Consciousness remaining after physical death has happened already with Hana and Drucker, though they had a different ability.<br />		:::::::::{{note}} Consciousness remaining after physical death has happened already with Hana and Drucker, though they had a different ability.<br />
	{{plus}} Even though Sylar has supposedly returned to his body, "Nathan" still has a large amount of control. This seems unusual for a mere telepathic illusion.<br/>		{{plus}} Even though Sylar has supposedly returned to his body, "Nathan" still has a large amount of control. This seems unusual for a mere telepathic illusion.<br />
	:{{minus}} Sylar got rid of Nathan.<br />		:{{minus}} Sylar got rid of Nathan.<br />
			::{{plus}} Only after he made Matt transfer him back into his own body, which suggests that another consciousness in control of the body.<br />
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imported>Witsfool at 08:35, 16 December 2009

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	:{{minus}} This doesn't mean that ''everything'' has to be symbolic or metaphorical in the show.<br />		:{{minus}} This doesn't mean that ''everything'' has to be symbolic or metaphorical in the show.<br />
	:{{plus}} Nathan would not turn himself in nor his [[Angela\|mother]] or [[Claire]].<br />		:{{plus}} Nathan would not turn himself in nor his [[Angela\|mother]] or [[Claire]].<br />
			::{{note}} He didn't turn in himself or the others because he considered their abilities "harmless". Also he was leniant with Claire as a means of controlling Bennet. He turned in Peter because there was no way to consider Peter as anything but dangerous.<br />
	{{plus}} Nathan could be considered "part evolved human" as he has synthetic abilities.<br />		{{plus}} Nathan could be considered "part evolved human" as he has synthetic abilities.<br />
	{{minus}} There hasn't been any definitive, conclusive evidence that Hitler had indeed Jewish heritage.<br />		{{minus}} There hasn't been any definitive, conclusive evidence that Hitler had indeed Jewish heritage.<br />

imported>Altes: explanation to why Claire's blood wasn't used kills the theory

2009-12-07T08:34:37Z

explanation to why Claire's blood wasn't used kills the theory

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 {{minus}} So far we saw at most two evolved humans from one family possessing the same or similar ability - [[Maury]] and [[Matt]] ([[Matt Parkman, Jr.|Matt's son]] has [[Matt's ability|an ability]] different from [[telepathy]]), [[Meredith]] and [[Flint]] (Meredith's daughter, [[Claire]], has [[Rapid cell regeneration|an ability]] different from [[pyrokinesis]]). The same may apply to Petrelli family.<br />
 {{minus}} This would mean that [[Nathan]]'s current [[ability]] would be [[rapid cell regeneration]], because he was injected with [[Adam]]'s blood.<br />
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 | The reason why Nathan survived after being shot by [[Peter Petrelli (exposed future)|Future Peter]] is because [[Paradox|his destiny was to die much later]]. || Nathan fully recovered in hours without any abilities involved. || {{plus}} For some reason, Hiro was unable to save [[Charlie]] at least from Sylar, if not from the blood clot in her brain. The cases are identical - both involve a [[Space-time manipulation|time traveler]] who wishes to change the past in order to save lives, and both Hiro and Peter have failed.<br />
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 :::::::::{{note}} Consciousness remaining after physical death has happened already with Hana and Drucker, though they had a different ability.<br />
 {{plus}} Even though Sylar has supposedly returned to his body, "Nathan" still has a large amount of control. This seems unusual for a mere telepathic illusion.<br/>
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imported>D and d 123 at 20:45, 6 December 2009

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	::{{note}} Neither was he when he avoided [[Nathan's accident\|his accident]]. He used it passively.<br />		::{{note}} Neither was he when he avoided [[Nathan's accident\|his accident]]. He used it passively.<br />
	:{{minus}} The temperature of a nuclear fireball is over 10 million degrees, which would have heated such a shield to the point where it provided no protection. It's more likely that after Nathan dropped Peter, Peter quickly flew as far as he could before exploding, just far enough to not kill Nathan.<br />		:{{minus}} The temperature of a nuclear fireball is over 10 million degrees, which would have heated such a shield to the point where it provided no protection. It's more likely that after Nathan dropped Peter, Peter quickly flew as far as he could before exploding, just far enough to not kill Nathan.<br />
			::{{plus}} That temperature is achieved by high-grade, state-of-the-art nuclear warheads. It is unknown how powerful an induced radioactivity explosion is.<br />
	::{{note}} Peter's powers were malfunctioning. He couldn't fly until AFTER he exploded.<br />		::{{note}} Peter's powers were malfunctioning. He couldn't fly until AFTER he exploded.<br />
	{{plus}} This could explain how he appears to be able to breathe normally even at higher altitudes.<br />		{{plus}} This could explain how he appears to be able to breathe normally even at higher altitudes.<br />

imported>Intuitive Empath at 22:28, 29 November 2009

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	::::::{{plus}} Matt was able to reach out to [[Usutu]], who was dead by that point.<br />		::::::{{plus}} Matt was able to reach out to [[Usutu]], who was dead by that point.<br />
	:::::::{{note}} Or Usutu was able to reach out to Matt because of Matt's telepathy. It might work both ways.<br />		:::::::{{note}} Or Usutu was able to reach out to Matt because of Matt's telepathy. It might work both ways.<br />
	::::::::{{note}} Either way, it proves that in the world of ''Heroes'', consciousness can remain after death.<br/>		::::::::{{note}} Either way, it proves that in the world of ''Heroes'', consciousness can remain after death.<br />
			:::::::::{{note}} Consciousness remaining after physical death has happened already with Hana and Drucker, though they had a different ability.<br />
	{{plus}} Even though Sylar has supposedly returned to his body, "Nathan" still has a large amount of control. This seems unusual for a mere telepathic illusion.<br/>		{{plus}} Even though Sylar has supposedly returned to his body, "Nathan" still has a large amount of control. This seems unusual for a mere telepathic illusion.<br/>
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imported>PJDEP at 22:08, 29 November 2009

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	::::::{{plus}} Matt was able to reach out to [[Usutu]], who was dead by that point.<br />		::::::{{plus}} Matt was able to reach out to [[Usutu]], who was dead by that point.<br />
	:::::::{{note}} Or Usutu was able to reach out to Matt because of Matt's telepathy. It might work both ways.<br />		:::::::{{note}} Or Usutu was able to reach out to Matt because of Matt's telepathy. It might work both ways.<br />
			::::::::{{note}} Either way, it proves that in the world of ''Heroes'', consciousness can remain after death.<br/>
	{{plus}} Even though Sylar has supposedly returned to his body, "Nathan" still has a large amount of control. This seems unusual for a mere telepathic illusion.<br/>		{{plus}} Even though Sylar has supposedly returned to his body, "Nathan" still has a large amount of control. This seems unusual for a mere telepathic illusion.<br/>
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