Theory:Rapid cell regeneration - Revision history

imported>D and d 123: Regeneration is a form of hyper-efficient radiotrophy

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Regeneration is a form of hyper-efficient radiotrophy

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imported>D and d 123: Regeneration is a form of hyper-efficient radiotrophy

2011-07-15T23:26:26Z

Regeneration is a form of hyper-efficient radiotrophy

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	:{{minus}} Cancer is caused by uncontrolled cellular replication, this power only creates enough cells to replace missing ones, it doesn't produce any more or less than that.<br />		:{{minus}} Cancer is caused by uncontrolled cellular replication, this power only creates enough cells to replace missing ones, it doesn't produce any more or less than that.<br />
	{{minus}} When a regenerator's blood is injected into another person, it probably "reboots" them genetically, healing injuries by restoring the body to the state its DNA says it should be in. Since cancer cells are naturally predisposed toward replication, rebooting cancer cells could cause them to replicate more quickly.<br />		{{minus}} When a regenerator's blood is injected into another person, it probably "reboots" them genetically, healing injuries by restoring the body to the state its DNA says it should be in. Since cancer cells are naturally predisposed toward replication, rebooting cancer cells could cause them to replicate more quickly.<br />
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			\| Regeneration involves metabolizing background radiation. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiotrophic_fungus\| Certain types]] of fungus can absorb radiation and convert it into nourishment. A hyper-efficient version of this could make the seeming "creation" of new matter to heal injuries possible.<br />
			{{plus}} This would explain why Claire's ability didn't malfunction after being exposed to [[Ted Sprague\|Ted]]'s meltdown (which would have exposed her to more than enough ionizing radiation to turn her DNA into confetti); her ability gave her a form of immunity to radiation's ill effects.<br />
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imported>TheWatchman at 17:40, 14 April 2011

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	:{{plus}} Sylar can delay the process. (''[[Turn and Face the Strange]]'')<br />		:{{plus}} Sylar can delay the process. (''[[Turn and Face the Strange]]'')<br />
	{{minus}} He may have used telekinesis to hold the wounds open.<br />		{{minus}} He may have used telekinesis to hold the wounds open.<br />
			{{minus}} [[Future Hiro]] went back in time to tell [[Peter]] to save the cheerleader. This lead [[Peter]] to meet [[Claire]] much earlier than he would have done otherwise, meaning [[Future Peter]] could have got his scar before he met [[Claire]] in the alternate [[Explosion Future]]. This would mean a scarred [[Peter]] would be the template for his future celular regeneration.<br />
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	\| If this [[ability]] was [[Ability supercharging\|supercharged]], it would have similar effects to [[impenetrable skin]]. \|\| None \|\| {{minus}} While both abilities deal with resisting harm, regeneration works by repairing the harm, whereas impenetrable skin prevents it altogether.<br />		\| If this [[ability]] was [[Ability supercharging\|supercharged]], it would have similar effects to [[impenetrable skin]]. \|\| None \|\| {{minus}} While both abilities deal with resisting harm, regeneration works by repairing the harm, whereas impenetrable skin prevents it altogether.<br />

imported>D and d 123 at 17:10, 14 May 2010

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	:{{plus}} No one we know of has it, someone we don't know of might have it.<br />		:{{plus}} No one we know of has it, someone we don't know of might have it.<br />
	:{{minus}} Cancer is caused by uncontrolled cellular replication, this power only creates enough cells to replace missing ones, it doesn't produce any more or less than that.<br />		:{{minus}} Cancer is caused by uncontrolled cellular replication, this power only creates enough cells to replace missing ones, it doesn't produce any more or less than that.<br />
			{{minus}} When a regenerator's blood is injected into another person, it probably "reboots" them genetically, healing injuries by restoring the body to the state its DNA says it should be in. Since cancer cells are naturally predisposed toward replication, rebooting cancer cells could cause them to replicate more quickly.<br />
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imported>Intuitive Empath: other ways to use emphasis

2010-04-21T15:17:54Z

other ways to use emphasis

imported>Kyogre blast at 12:48, 21 April 2010

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	{{plus}} Claire was not able to heal when she had a branch stuck in her head. Peter was not able to heal with the shard of glass in his head. Obstructions such as these could prevent the release of the "healing chemical".<br />		{{plus}} Claire was not able to heal when she had a branch stuck in her head. Peter was not able to heal with the shard of glass in his head. Obstructions such as these could prevent the release of the "healing chemical".<br />
	{{note}} It is possible that another bodily fluid, such as tears from either Adam or Claire, could heal people.<br />		{{note}} It is possible that another bodily fluid, such as tears from either Adam or Claire, could heal people.<br />
			:{{note}} If tears would work, then it would effectively make Claire and Adam half phoenix, seeing as phoenixs are ment to have healing tears.<br />
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	\| "Death" is caused by piercing of the cerebellum and brain stem. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} It is in that region they are both pierced.<br />		\| "Death" is caused by piercing of the cerebellum and brain stem. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} It is in that region they are both pierced.<br />

imported>Kyogre blast at 12:43, 21 April 2010

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	:{{note}} If that's the case, then the power would break one of the main rule of physics (that matter cannot be created, only transformed).<br />		:{{note}} If that's the case, then the power would break one of the main rule of physics (that matter cannot be created, only transformed).<br />
	:{{plus}} Matter ''can'' be created from energy. One of the founding principles of modern physics is Einstein's formula equating energy and matter (e=mc^2;energy equals mass multiplied by the speed of light squared). Granted: it's absurd by modern technological standards, but this show is fantasy, and the laws of physics need not even apply. Further, the power of 'Alchemy' already seems to break the general rule of conservation/non-creation of mass ('''not''' a law, fusion bombs cause a decrease in mass by fusion) by transmuting an element of a lesser atomic mass into gold, or any element into another element with a higher mass.<br />		:{{plus}} Matter ''can'' be created from energy. One of the founding principles of modern physics is Einstein's formula equating energy and matter (e=mc^2;energy equals mass multiplied by the speed of light squared). Granted: it's absurd by modern technological standards, but this show is fantasy, and the laws of physics need not even apply. Further, the power of 'Alchemy' already seems to break the general rule of conservation/non-creation of mass ('''not''' a law, fusion bombs cause a decrease in mass by fusion) by transmuting an element of a lesser atomic mass into gold, or any element into another element with a higher mass.<br />
			::{{note}} While all this about Einsteins formula is true, matter is still CONVERTED from energy into matter, and vice versa. It is impossible to CREATE matter and energy from nothing, but not to CONVERT it. There is a difference in creating and converting.
	{{note}} Whether or not this theory is actually suggesting this or not, the ability's means of producing new cells is cetainly the same as with all other organisms (the DNA of cells being replicated, leading to the entire cell being duplicated), just at a highly accelerated rate. The cells required to replace damaged ones are created exactly the same as those of other organisms.<br />		{{note}} Whether or not this theory is actually suggesting this or not, the ability's means of producing new cells is cetainly the same as with all other organisms (the DNA of cells being replicated, leading to the entire cell being duplicated), just at a highly accelerated rate. The cells required to replace damaged ones are created exactly the same as those of other organisms.<br />
	{{plus}} The ability could involve a recycling of the matter from the damaged tissue to create new, healthy tissue.<br />		{{plus}} The ability could involve a recycling of the matter from the damaged tissue to create new, healthy tissue.<br />

imported>Kyogre blast at 12:38, 21 April 2010

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	:{{note}} Arthur doesn't get younger once he steals [[Adam]]'s ability.<br />		:{{note}} Arthur doesn't get younger once he steals [[Adam]]'s ability.<br />
	::{{minus}} He stole the ability. That may explain why he didn't suddenly "de-age".<br />		::{{minus}} He stole the ability. That may explain why he didn't suddenly "de-age".<br />
			:::{{minus}} Aging is caused by DNA degrading while cells split. Regeneration would simply stop this process from continuing from whatever point the body started regenerating. This point in DNA degragation would be the "standard model" for all future mitosis, any DNA that degrades and no longer fits this model is regenerated, therefore regeneration only prevents aging from continuing.<br />
	{{plus}} Claire's hair seems to grow back, but Peter very obviously has gotten a haircut.<br />		{{plus}} Claire's hair seems to grow back, but Peter very obviously has gotten a haircut.<br />
	:{{plus}} Having the hair cut is not something dangerous. Having the hair burned with radiation is more dangerous.<br />		:{{plus}} Having the hair cut is not something dangerous. Having the hair burned with radiation is more dangerous.<br />

imported>Radicell at 10:02, 28 March 2010

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	\| This power ''creates'' the matter necessary for new body parts to grow. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} Growth needs matter, which would usually be taken from the body, leading to weight loss, and yet none of the known evolved humans with this power displayed this.<br />		\| This power ''creates'' the matter necessary for new body parts to grow. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} Growth needs matter, which would usually be taken from the body, leading to weight loss, and yet none of the known evolved humans with this power displayed this.<br />
	:{{minus}} Maybe the wounds aren't big enough to be noticed by the body.<br />		:{{minus}} Maybe the wounds aren't big enough to be noticed by the body.<br />
	::{{plus}} Peter loses a great deal of blood in ''[[Homecoming]]'' with no adverse side effects.<br />		::{{plus}} Peter loses a great deal of blood in ''[[Episode:Homecoming\|Homecoming]]'' with no adverse side effects.<br />
	:::{{note}} While it is explained as an overload of powers, Peter did become sick shortly after that incident, which could indicate that matter was appropriated from various organs (albeit not enough to have an immediate loss of health) in order to create enough blood for him to survive.<br />		:::{{note}} While it is explained as an overload of powers, Peter did become sick shortly after that incident, which could indicate that matter was appropriated from various organs (albeit not enough to have an immediate loss of health) in order to create enough blood for him to survive.<br />
	:{{note}} Peter's nose bleeds after he opens the safe with the virus in it.<br />		:{{note}} Peter's nose bleeds after he opens the safe with the virus in it.<br />

imported>Intuitive Empath at 15:51, 21 March 2010

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	{{plus}} The ability seems to have lessened pain from the start; despite that Claire claims that it does not. During the eclipse, both Sylar and Claire complain about 'pain' when they previously have not. Sylar could barely stand to have his bone set without the ability. Claire had never once complained about pain until she was in the hospital. Since this is an effect of the power, it is likely to be able to grow stronger in its effect.<br />		{{plus}} The ability seems to have lessened pain from the start; despite that Claire claims that it does not. During the eclipse, both Sylar and Claire complain about 'pain' when they previously have not. Sylar could barely stand to have his bone set without the ability. Claire had never once complained about pain until she was in the hospital. Since this is an effect of the power, it is likely to be able to grow stronger in its effect.<br />
	{{plus}} Immunity to pain is useful in practice, particularly when bodily damage is no threat at all.<br />		{{plus}} Immunity to pain is useful in practice, particularly when bodily damage is no threat at all.<br />
	{{plus}} When [[Peter Petrelli]] had [[~~The Haitian~~]]'s power in [[Let It Bleed]], [[Claire]] cut her finger (which did not heal) and felt pain, because he was negating her power ~~accidently~~.		{{plus}} When [[Peter Petrelli]] had [[René]]'s power in [[Let It Bleed]], [[Claire]] cut her finger (which did not heal) and felt pain, because he was negating her power accidentally.<br />
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	\| The spot that can kill a regenerator is the part of the brain that controls the power. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} All regenerators die at least temporarily when the spot is penetrated or in Arthur's case, destroyed.<br />		\| The spot that can kill a regenerator is the part of the brain that controls the power. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} All regenerators die at least temporarily when the spot is penetrated or in Arthur's case, destroyed.<br />

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	:{{note}} Arthur doesn't get younger once he steals [[Adam]]'s ability.<br />		:{{note}} Arthur doesn't get younger once he steals [[Adam]]'s ability.<br />
	::{{minus}} He stole the ability. That may explain why he didn't suddenly "de-age".<br />		::{{minus}} He stole the ability. That may explain why he didn't suddenly "de-age".<br />
	:::{{minus}} Aging is caused by DNA degrading while cells split. Regeneration would simply stop this process from continuing from whatever point the body started regenerating. This point in DNA ~~degragation~~ would be the "standard model" for all future mitosis, any DNA that degrades and no longer fits this model is regenerated, therefore regeneration only prevents aging from continuing.<br />		:::{{minus}} Aging is caused by DNA degrading while cells split. Regeneration would simply stop this process from continuing from whatever point the body started regenerating. This point in DNA degradation would be the "standard model" for all future mitosis, any DNA that degrades and no longer fits this model is regenerated, therefore regeneration only prevents aging from continuing.<br />
	{{plus}} Claire's hair seems to grow back, but Peter very obviously has gotten a haircut.<br />		{{plus}} Claire's hair seems to grow back, but Peter very obviously has gotten a haircut.<br />
	:{{plus}} Having the hair cut is not something dangerous. Having the hair burned with radiation is more dangerous.<br />		:{{plus}} Having the hair cut is not something dangerous. Having the hair burned with radiation is more dangerous.<br />
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	:{{note}} If that's the case, then the power would break one of the main rule of physics (that matter cannot be created, only transformed).<br />		:{{note}} If that's the case, then the power would break one of the main rule of physics (that matter cannot be created, only transformed).<br />
	:{{plus}} Matter ''can'' be created from energy. One of the founding principles of modern physics is Einstein's formula equating energy and matter (e=mc^2;energy equals mass multiplied by the speed of light squared). Granted: it's absurd by modern technological standards, but this show is fantasy, and the laws of physics need not even apply. Further, the power of 'Alchemy' already seems to break the general rule of conservation/non-creation of mass ('''not''' a law, fusion bombs cause a decrease in mass by fusion) by transmuting an element of a lesser atomic mass into gold, or any element into another element with a higher mass.<br />		:{{plus}} Matter ''can'' be created from energy. One of the founding principles of modern physics is Einstein's formula equating energy and matter (e=mc^2;energy equals mass multiplied by the speed of light squared). Granted: it's absurd by modern technological standards, but this show is fantasy, and the laws of physics need not even apply. Further, the power of 'Alchemy' already seems to break the general rule of conservation/non-creation of mass ('''not''' a law, fusion bombs cause a decrease in mass by fusion) by transmuting an element of a lesser atomic mass into gold, or any element into another element with a higher mass.<br />
	::{{note}} While all this about Einsteins formula is true, matter is still ~~CONVERTED~~ from energy into matter, and vice versa. It is impossible to ~~CREATE~~ matter and energy from nothing, but not to ~~CONVERT~~ it. There is a difference in creating and converting.		::{{note}} While all this about Einsteins formula is true, matter is still ''converted'' from energy into matter, and vice versa. It is impossible to ''create'' matter and energy from nothing, but not to ''convert'' it. There is a difference in creating and converting.<br />
	{{note}} Whether or not this theory is actually suggesting this or not, the ability's means of producing new cells is ~~cetainly~~ the same as with all other organisms (the DNA of cells being replicated, leading to the entire cell being duplicated), just at a highly accelerated rate. The cells required to replace damaged ones are created exactly the same as those of other organisms.<br />		{{note}} Whether or not this theory is actually suggesting this or not, the ability's means of producing new cells is certainly the same as with all other organisms (the DNA of cells being replicated, leading to the entire cell being duplicated), just at a highly accelerated rate. The cells required to replace damaged ones are created exactly the same as those of other organisms.<br />
	{{plus}} The ability could involve a recycling of the matter from the damaged tissue to create new, healthy tissue.<br />		{{plus}} The ability could involve a recycling of the matter from the damaged tissue to create new, healthy tissue.<br />
	:{{minus}} Maybe the original matter wasn't around.<br />		:{{minus}} Maybe the original matter wasn't around.<br />
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	{{plus}} Claire was not able to heal when she had a branch stuck in her head. Peter was not able to heal with the shard of glass in his head. Obstructions such as these could prevent the release of the "healing chemical".<br />		{{plus}} Claire was not able to heal when she had a branch stuck in her head. Peter was not able to heal with the shard of glass in his head. Obstructions such as these could prevent the release of the "healing chemical".<br />
	{{note}} It is possible that another bodily fluid, such as tears from either Adam or Claire, could heal people.<br />		{{note}} It is possible that another bodily fluid, such as tears from either Adam or Claire, could heal people.<br />
	:{{note}} If tears would work, then it would effectively make Claire and Adam ~~half~~ phoenix, seeing as ~~phoenixs~~ are ~~ment~~ to have healing tears.<br />		:{{note}} If tears would work, then it would effectively make Claire and Adam like phoenix, seeing as phoenixes are meant to have healing tears.<br />
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	\| "Death" is caused by piercing of the cerebellum and brain stem. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} It is in that region they are both pierced.<br />		\| "Death" is caused by piercing of the cerebellum and brain stem. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} It is in that region they are both pierced.<br />