Theory:Rift - Revision history

imported>Intuitive Empath at 18:18, 18 April 2010

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imported>Intuitive Empath at 18:18, 18 April 2010

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	{{minus}} Rifts are referring to "time destroying" paradoxes in this show. Future Hiro said he had to study and plan a long time to find the exact point where the past could be SAFELY changed. Possibly because instead of trying to stop the entire incident he tried only to stop Sylar from being unkillable when he was stabbed.<br />		{{minus}} Rifts are referring to "time destroying" paradoxes in this show. Future Hiro said he had to study and plan a long time to find the exact point where the past could be SAFELY changed. Possibly because instead of trying to stop the entire incident he tried only to stop Sylar from being unkillable when he was stabbed.<br />
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	\| The rift is already happening. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} In [[Season Four]], Hiro starts time traveling a lot more and changing the past a lot. Around that time, the show's [[:Category:Timeline\|timeline]] grows much more inconsistent and contradictory. Perhaps Hiro is unwittingly pulling a Superboy-Prime, warping and unraveling the space-time continuum through his overuse of time travel and thereby causing all the continuity errors.<br />		\| The rift is already happening. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} In [[Season Four]], Hiro starts time traveling a lot more and changing the past a lot. Around that time, the show's [[:Category:Timeline\|timeline]] grows much more inconsistent and contradictory. Perhaps Hiro is unwittingly pulling a Superboy-Prime, warping and unraveling the space-time continuum through his overuse of time travel and thereby causing all the continuity errors.<br />
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imported>Wanderer32 at 18:09, 18 April 2010

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	{{minus}} Rifts are referring to "time destroying" paradoxes in this show. Future Hiro said he had to study and plan a long time to find the exact point where the past could be SAFELY changed. Possibly because instead of trying to stop the entire incident he tried only to stop Sylar from being unkillable when he was stabbed.<br />		{{minus}} Rifts are referring to "time destroying" paradoxes in this show. Future Hiro said he had to study and plan a long time to find the exact point where the past could be SAFELY changed. Possibly because instead of trying to stop the entire incident he tried only to stop Sylar from being unkillable when he was stabbed.<br />
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			\| The rift is already happening. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} In [[Season Four]], Hiro starts time traveling a lot more and changing the past a lot. Around that time, the show's [[:Category:Timeline\|timeline]] grows much more inconsistent and contradictory. Perhaps Hiro is unwittingly pulling a Superboy-Prime, warping and unraveling the space-time continuum through his overuse of time travel and thereby causing all the continuity errors.<br />
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imported>Intuitive Empath at 20:42, 30 October 2009

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	\| Rifts interfere with the abilities of time-travelers, either by leaving time-travelers unable to use their powers or by creating points in time they cannot travel to. \|\| Future Hiro speaks of rifts as something to be avoided. (''[[Hiros]]'') \|\| {{plus}} Also, Hiro's powers do not function properly after his trip to the past to save Charlie.<br />		\| Rifts interfere with the abilities of time-travelers, either by leaving time-travelers unable to use their powers or by creating points in time they cannot travel to. \|\| Future Hiro speaks of rifts as something to be avoided. (''[[Hiros]]'') \|\| {{plus}} Also, Hiro's powers do not function properly after his trip to the past to save Charlie.<br />
	{{minus}} Hiro's problems with his powers stems from his inability to save Charlie, and his growing fear that he is not the hero he wants to be. Not from any casualty effects.<br />		{{minus}} Hiro's problems with his powers stems from his inability to save Charlie, and his growing fear that he is not the hero he wants to be. Not from any casualty effects.<br />
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	\| Rifts are not portals in space and time. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} While a rift, in science fiction literature, can refer to either a portal in space/time or a wound in space/time, it seems clear by the context of Future Hiro's remarks that they are using the latter sense of the word as rifts are suggested to be a bad thing.<br />		\| Rifts are not portals in space and time. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} While a rift, in science fiction literature, can refer to either a portal in space/time or a wound in space/time, it seems clear by the context of Future Hiro's remarks that they are using the latter sense of the word as rifts are suggested to be a bad thing.<br />
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	::{{note}} Hiro cannot absorb abilities.<br />		::{{note}} Hiro cannot absorb abilities.<br />
	:{{minus}} Empaths are immune to empathic mimicry, so Peter cannot absorb another empaths powers.<br />		:{{minus}} Empaths are immune to empathic mimicry, so Peter cannot absorb another empaths powers.<br />
	::{{note}} Since when do empaths follow the [[Rule of Ted]]?		::{{note}} Since when do empaths follow the [[Rule of Ted]]?<br />
			:::{{note}} Since a BTE established they did. Present day Peter couldn't absorb the abilities his exposed future self had.<br />
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	\| Rifts don't apply in ''Heroes''. \|\|None. \|\| {{plus}} So far, every event dealing with destiny has co-related with time travel. For example, the company was formed primarily by Adam. Adam would not have been what Kaito Nakamura told his son, if it weren't for Hiro actually traveling back in time and altering events. Also, Isaac is able to paint events based on Hiro's time travel, as if they are happening in the future. Therefore, Hiro's life is progressing into the future even when he goes to the past or stops time. This disables the idea from a 'rift' even being possible in such a world. The writers were just trying to romanticize the show, as they do on occasion. Basing a show in realism is difficult in these days, so it was just a mistake.<br />		\| Rifts don't apply in ''Heroes''. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} So far, every event dealing with destiny has co-related with time travel. For example, the company was formed primarily by Adam. Adam would not have been what Kaito Nakamura told his son, if it weren't for Hiro actually traveling back in time and altering events. Also, Isaac is able to paint events based on Hiro's time travel, as if they are happening in the future. Therefore, Hiro's life is progressing into the future even when he goes to the past or stops time. This disables the idea from a 'rift' even being possible in such a world. The writers were just trying to romanticize the show, as they do on occasion. Basing a show in realism is difficult in these days, so it was just a mistake.<br />
	{{minus}} Rifts are referring to "time destroying" paradoxes in this show. Future Hiro said he had to study and plan a long time to find the exact point where the past could be SAFELY changed. Possibly because instead of trying to stop the entire incident he tried only to stop Sylar from being unkillable when he was stabbed.<br />		{{minus}} Rifts are referring to "time destroying" paradoxes in this show. Future Hiro said he had to study and plan a long time to find the exact point where the past could be SAFELY changed. Possibly because instead of trying to stop the entire incident he tried only to stop Sylar from being unkillable when he was stabbed.<br />
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imported>Uncanny474 at 13:01, 30 October 2009

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	::{{note}} Hiro cannot absorb abilities.<br />		::{{note}} Hiro cannot absorb abilities.<br />
	:{{minus}} Empaths are immune to empathic mimicry, so Peter cannot absorb another empaths powers.<br />		:{{minus}} Empaths are immune to empathic mimicry, so Peter cannot absorb another empaths powers.<br />
			::{{note}} Since when do empaths follow the [[Rule of Ted]]?
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	\| Rifts don't apply in ''Heroes''. \|\|None. \|\| {{plus}} So far, every event dealing with destiny has co-related with time travel. For example, the company was formed primarily by Adam. Adam would not have been what Kaito Nakamura told his son, if it weren't for Hiro actually traveling back in time and altering events. Also, Isaac is able to paint events based on Hiro's time travel, as if they are happening in the future. Therefore, Hiro's life is progressing into the future even when he goes to the past or stops time. This disables the idea from a 'rift' even being possible in such a world. The writers were just trying to romanticize the show, as they do on occasion. Basing a show in realism is difficult in these days, so it was just a mistake.<br />		\| Rifts don't apply in ''Heroes''. \|\|None. \|\| {{plus}} So far, every event dealing with destiny has co-related with time travel. For example, the company was formed primarily by Adam. Adam would not have been what Kaito Nakamura told his son, if it weren't for Hiro actually traveling back in time and altering events. Also, Isaac is able to paint events based on Hiro's time travel, as if they are happening in the future. Therefore, Hiro's life is progressing into the future even when he goes to the past or stops time. This disables the idea from a 'rift' even being possible in such a world. The writers were just trying to romanticize the show, as they do on occasion. Basing a show in realism is difficult in these days, so it was just a mistake.<br />

imported>Intuitive Empath at 00:33, 17 August 2009

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	\| Rifts don't apply in ''Heroes''. \|\|None. \|\| {{plus}} So far, every event dealing with destiny has co-related with time travel. For example, the company was formed primarily by Adam. Adam would not have been what Kaito Nakamura told his son, if it weren't for Hiro actually traveling back in time and altering events. Also, Isaac is able to paint events based on Hiro's time travel, as if they are happening in the future. Therefore, Hiro's life is progressing into the future even when he goes to the past or stops time. This disables the idea from a 'rift' even being possible in such a world. The writers were just trying to romanticize the show, as they do on occasion. Basing a show in realism is difficult in these days, so it was just a mistake.<br />		\| Rifts don't apply in ''Heroes''. \|\|None. \|\| {{plus}} So far, every event dealing with destiny has co-related with time travel. For example, the company was formed primarily by Adam. Adam would not have been what Kaito Nakamura told his son, if it weren't for Hiro actually traveling back in time and altering events. Also, Isaac is able to paint events based on Hiro's time travel, as if they are happening in the future. Therefore, Hiro's life is progressing into the future even when he goes to the past or stops time. This disables the idea from a 'rift' even being possible in such a world. The writers were just trying to romanticize the show, as they do on occasion. Basing a show in realism is difficult in these days, so it was just a mistake.<br />
	{{minus}} Rifts are referring to "time destroying" paradoxes in this show. Future Hiro said he had to study and plan a long time to find the exact point where the past could be SAFELY changed. Possibly because instead of trying to stop the entire incident he tried only to stop Sylar from being unkillable when he was stabbed.<br />		{{minus}} Rifts are referring to "time destroying" paradoxes in this show. Future Hiro said he had to study and plan a long time to find the exact point where the past could be SAFELY changed. Possibly because instead of trying to stop the entire incident he tried only to stop Sylar from being unkillable when he was stabbed.<br />
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imported>Intuitive Empath: stated directly in a BTE interview, not necessarily "only affects other people" abilities

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stated directly in a BTE interview, not necessarily "only affects other people" abilities

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	::{{note}} Hiro cannot absorb abilities.<br />		::{{note}} Hiro cannot absorb abilities.<br />
	:{{minus}} Empaths are immune to empathic mimicry, so Peter cannot absorb another empaths powers.<br />		:{{minus}} Empaths are immune to empathic mimicry, so Peter cannot absorb another empaths powers.<br />
	:::{{plus}} The [[rule of ted]] only applies to abilities that target others, empathic mimicry copies anothers ability, therefore the only change happening is to yourself, no external person is being targeted. (example, if someone who can fly refused to use his ability, it would be unlikey that he would be immune to being dropped from a high place by another flier, since flight is a self targeting ability. Peter's ability replication though, requiring a physical touch, may be another story) <br />
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	\| Rifts don't apply in ''Heroes''. \|\|None. \|\| {{plus}} So far, every event dealing with destiny has co-related with time travel. For example, the company was formed primarily by Adam. Adam would not have been what Kaito Nakamura told his son, if it weren't for Hiro actually traveling back in time and altering events. Also, Isaac is able to paint events based on Hiro's time travel, as if they are happening in the future. Therefore, Hiro's life is progressing into the future even when he goes to the past or stops time. This disables the idea from a 'rift' even being possible in such a world. The writers were just trying to romanticize the show, as they do on occasion. Basing a show in realism is difficult in these days, so it was just a mistake.<br />		\| Rifts don't apply in ''Heroes''. \|\|None. \|\| {{plus}} So far, every event dealing with destiny has co-related with time travel. For example, the company was formed primarily by Adam. Adam would not have been what Kaito Nakamura told his son, if it weren't for Hiro actually traveling back in time and altering events. Also, Isaac is able to paint events based on Hiro's time travel, as if they are happening in the future. Therefore, Hiro's life is progressing into the future even when he goes to the past or stops time. This disables the idea from a 'rift' even being possible in such a world. The writers were just trying to romanticize the show, as they do on occasion. Basing a show in realism is difficult in these days, so it was just a mistake.<br />

imported>SPaTiAlDiStOrTiOn at 00:22, 17 August 2009

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	::{{note}} Hiro cannot absorb abilities.<br />		::{{note}} Hiro cannot absorb abilities.<br />
	:{{minus}} Empaths are immune to empathic mimicry, so Peter cannot absorb another empaths powers.<br />		:{{minus}} Empaths are immune to empathic mimicry, so Peter cannot absorb another empaths powers.<br />
	:::{{plus}} The [[rule of ted]] only applies to abilities that target others, empathic mimicry copies anothers ability, therefore the only change happening is to yourself, no external person is being targeted		:::{{plus}} The [[rule of ted]] only applies to abilities that target others, empathic mimicry copies anothers ability, therefore the only change happening is to yourself, no external person is being targeted. (example, if someone who can fly refused to use his ability, it would be unlikey that he would be immune to being dropped from a high place by another flier, since flight is a self targeting ability. Peter's ability replication though, requiring a physical touch, may be another story) <br />
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	\| Rifts don't apply in ''Heroes''. \|\|None. \|\| {{plus}} So far, every event dealing with destiny has co-related with time travel. For example, the company was formed primarily by Adam. Adam would not have been what Kaito Nakamura told his son, if it weren't for Hiro actually traveling back in time and altering events. Also, Isaac is able to paint events based on Hiro's time travel, as if they are happening in the future. Therefore, Hiro's life is progressing into the future even when he goes to the past or stops time. This disables the idea from a 'rift' even being possible in such a world. The writers were just trying to romanticize the show, as they do on occasion. Basing a show in realism is difficult in these days, so it was just a mistake.<br />		\| Rifts don't apply in ''Heroes''. \|\|None. \|\| {{plus}} So far, every event dealing with destiny has co-related with time travel. For example, the company was formed primarily by Adam. Adam would not have been what Kaito Nakamura told his son, if it weren't for Hiro actually traveling back in time and altering events. Also, Isaac is able to paint events based on Hiro's time travel, as if they are happening in the future. Therefore, Hiro's life is progressing into the future even when he goes to the past or stops time. This disables the idea from a 'rift' even being possible in such a world. The writers were just trying to romanticize the show, as they do on occasion. Basing a show in realism is difficult in these days, so it was just a mistake.<br />

imported>SPaTiAlDiStOrTiOn at 00:20, 17 August 2009

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	::{{note}} Hiro cannot absorb abilities.<br />		::{{note}} Hiro cannot absorb abilities.<br />
	:{{minus}} Empaths are immune to empathic mimicry, so Peter cannot absorb another empaths powers.<br />		:{{minus}} Empaths are immune to empathic mimicry, so Peter cannot absorb another empaths powers.<br />
			:::{{plus}} The [[rule of ted]] only applies to abilities that target others, empathic mimicry copies anothers ability, therefore the only change happening is to yourself, no external person is being targeted
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	\| Rifts don't apply in ''Heroes''. \|\|None. \|\| {{plus}} So far, every event dealing with destiny has co-related with time travel. For example, the company was formed primarily by Adam. Adam would not have been what Kaito Nakamura told his son, if it weren't for Hiro actually traveling back in time and altering events. Also, Isaac is able to paint events based on Hiro's time travel, as if they are happening in the future. Therefore, Hiro's life is progressing into the future even when he goes to the past or stops time. This disables the idea from a 'rift' even being possible in such a world. The writers were just trying to romanticize the show, as they do on occasion. Basing a show in realism is difficult in these days, so it was just a mistake.<br />		\| Rifts don't apply in ''Heroes''. \|\|None. \|\| {{plus}} So far, every event dealing with destiny has co-related with time travel. For example, the company was formed primarily by Adam. Adam would not have been what Kaito Nakamura told his son, if it weren't for Hiro actually traveling back in time and altering events. Also, Isaac is able to paint events based on Hiro's time travel, as if they are happening in the future. Therefore, Hiro's life is progressing into the future even when he goes to the past or stops time. This disables the idea from a 'rift' even being possible in such a world. The writers were just trying to romanticize the show, as they do on occasion. Basing a show in realism is difficult in these days, so it was just a mistake.<br />

imported>Witsfool at 07:50, 23 April 2009

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	\| Rifts don't apply in ''Heroes''. \|\|None. \|\| {{plus}} So far, every event dealing with destiny has co-related with time travel. For example, the company was formed primarily by Adam. Adam would not have been what Kaito Nakamura told his son, if it weren't for Hiro actually traveling back in time and altering events. Also, Isaac is able to paint events based on Hiro's time travel, as if they are happening in the future. Therefore, Hiro's life is progressing into the future even when he goes to the past or stops time. This disables the idea from a 'rift' even being possible in such a world. The writers were just trying to romanticize the show, as they do on occasion. Basing a show in realism is difficult in these days, so it was just a mistake.<br />		\| Rifts don't apply in ''Heroes''. \|\|None. \|\| {{plus}} So far, every event dealing with destiny has co-related with time travel. For example, the company was formed primarily by Adam. Adam would not have been what Kaito Nakamura told his son, if it weren't for Hiro actually traveling back in time and altering events. Also, Isaac is able to paint events based on Hiro's time travel, as if they are happening in the future. Therefore, Hiro's life is progressing into the future even when he goes to the past or stops time. This disables the idea from a 'rift' even being possible in such a world. The writers were just trying to romanticize the show, as they do on occasion. Basing a show in realism is difficult in these days, so it was just a mistake.<br />
			{{minus}} Rifts are referring to "time destroying" paradoxes in this show. Future Hiro said he had to study and plan a long time to find the exact point where the past could be SAFELY changed. Possibly because instead of trying to stop the entire incident he tried only to stop Sylar from being unkillable when he was stabbed.<br />
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