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Redirecting to Series of eight (painting)

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imported>Baldbobbo: afd

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imported>Ice Vision: well, all these are gone. =)

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well, all these are gone. =)

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	\| The dead man in the [[:Image:Painting eight of eight.jpg\|8th painting]] is ''not'' [[Noah Bennet]]. \|\| None \|\|
	[[Image:Lindermans archives president.jpg\|thumb\|center]] {{plus}} Other paintings have shown the results of [[Illusion\|illusions]], ''e.g.'' ''The President Stands Alone'' turned out to be [[Sylar (future)\|Sylar]], masquerading as [[Nathan]]. <br> {{plus}} It could be that Noah's father is still alive and is the one shown dead in 8/8.
	:{{note}} Noah's father may have been a member of the [[group of twelve]].<br>{{minus}}The only two shown with glasses in the [[Group of Twelve]] are known to be [[Mr. Petrelli]] and [[Bob]].<br> {{note}} It can also be someone who didn't wear glasses at the time the picture was taken but wears glasses now.<br>{{plus}} The man in the painting appears to be wearing plaid. Mr. Bennet seems like the kind of man who wouldn't be caught dead in plaid. So to speak.
	{{plus}}Future events painted by Isaac have been prevented, ''e.g.'' [[:Image:Painting the explosion.jpg\|the bomb did not go off in the middle of New York City]] in our current [[timeline]]. (''[[How to Stop an Exploding Man]]'').<br>{{plus}}Isaac could have altered the painting after he initially painted it.<br>{{plus}}The painting could depict events in someone's nightmare, as induced by [[Maury Parkman]].<br>
	:{{minus}} [[Isaac Mendez\|Isaac]]'s paintings always seem to be of a general future; one that more than one person might or might not be able to witness. Maury Parkman's nightmares are visible only to the person experiencing them, as evidenced by ''[[Fight or Flight]]''.
	<br> {{minus}} The man in the painting had hazel or brown eyes, but [[Noah]] has blue eyes.
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	\| The painting portraying Noah's death is a fake planted by the [[Company]]. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} It is very convenient that this was the only painting left for Mohinder to find. <br>{{note}} This implies that the Company knows about Noah and Mohinder's alliance. <br>
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	\| The [[:Image:Painting eight of eight.jpg\|8th painting]] does not actually picture [[Claire]]. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} Lack of facial detail caused confusion of which cheerleader was murdered on the part of [[Peter]] and [[Noah\|HRG]]. <br> {{plus}} The painting could depict any of a number of other blonde characters.
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	\| The figure embracing Claire in the picture is [[West]]. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} West is currently in a romantic relationship with Claire. <br> {{plus}} If the dead body depicted is indeed Noah Bennet, West is a likely suspect in the murder: West was once "bagged and tagged" by Noah when the latter worked at the Company, and may want revenge. The picture may be depicting the immediate aftermath of Noah's death. <br> {{minus}} The blonde girl in the picture may not be Claire, and it is unlikely that, if West were present, he would be embracing someone else.<br>{{plus}} The two people kissing in painting 8/8 are not the same height. West has to bend his knees to kiss the girl.
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	\| [[Jessica]] is the blonde girl in the painting of Noah's death. [[Mohinder]] is the shadowy character, and is also the one who killed Noah. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} Mohinder is becoming increasingly unwilling to follow the will of Mr. Bennet, as evidenced in ''[[The Line]]''. <br> {{plus}} Painting 7/8 in the [[series of eight]] depicts Mohinder holding a smoking gun. (''[[The Line]]'') In painting 8/8, Mr. Bennet is obviously dead due to a gunshot wound in his eye. <br> {{note}} The person who Mohinder believes to be Niki at the end of ''[[The Line]]'' might actually be Jessica, as Niki/Jessica's sudden recovery, employment by [[the Company]], and coming on to Mohinder seems uncharacteristic of Niki.<br>
	:{{plus}} Niki/Jessica is wearing the same black outfit that Jessica is seen wearing previously in the series.
	:{{plus}} Jessica has shown that she is capable of using her sex appeal to manipulate others. She could manipulate Mohinder into killing Noah.<br>
	{{plus}} Niki/Jessica claims that she is working for [[the Company]] now. (''[[The Line]]'') Since Noah is working to bring down [[the Company]], Niki/Jessica would want him eliminated.<br>
	{{plus}} The silhouetted person in painting 8/8 is slightly taller than the blonde girl, as he has to bend slightly to kiss her. Mohinder is slightly taller than Jessica, as evidenced by comparing [[Sendhil Ramamurthy]]'s and [[Ali Larter]]'s heights in [[:Image:Unaired episode.jpg\|this photo]].<br>
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	\|The shadowy figure holding [[Claire]] in the [[:Image:Painting eight of eight.jpg\|8th painting]] is [[Sylar]], after having regained full use of his abilities including [[Candice]]'s power of [[Illusion]]. The painting shows another attempt by Sylar to steal [[Claire]]'s [[regeneration\|ability]] through an elaborate illusion, perhaps making her believe that Sylar had disguised himself as her father and is now neutralized. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} As seen in ''[[Five Years Gone]]'' Sylar highly values Claire's power of regeneration and has been shown to use illusions in order to steal her ability. <br> {{plus}} The silhouette of the shadowy figure has hair similar to [[Sylar]]'s (i.e. spiky in front). <br> {{plus}} Sylar has been depicted as the shadowy figure in [[Isaac]]'s paintings before, e.g. the [[:Image:Painting_claire_menaced.jpg\|painting]] of Clair running and the [[:Image:Painting_claire_murdered.jpg\|painting]] Peter finished.
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	\|Mohinder will accidentally kill Mr. Bennet. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} If the paintings were chronologically ordered, Mohinder, in painting 7/8, may shoot Mr. Bennet, in painting 8/8.
	:{{minus}}The paintings don't appear to be in chronological order, with the [[:Image:Paintingpet.JPG\|fifth painting]] occuring in 2008 and the [[:Image:Paintinghirotk.JPG\|sixth painting]] occuring in the distant past.
	:{{minus}}actually, if you go by episodes, and time in relation to how it has passed for the characters, and not dates, the paintings are still chronologically ordered, since peter went to the future, and fulfilled the scene in Isaac's painting before mohinder recieved the gun, and returned before Mohinder has used it or Mr. Bennet has died.

	<br>{{plus}} Sylar, posing as Mr. Bennet, may attack Mohinder, and let Mohinder kill him. This may lead to Sylar taking Claire's ability, leaving Mohinder shocked and disappointed at his mistake.<br>{{plus}} Judging from a closeup of Mohinder's face in [[:Image:Mohinder bnw.jpg\|an uncolored version of painting 7/8]], there appears to be tears in his eyes. This could be because he shot Noah accidentally or unwillingly.<br> {{note}} It could be he is crying because his nose is broken.
	:{{minus}} His nose has been bandaged, which means that the wound is there for quite a while before Mohinder fired the pistol. It seems unlikely that someone will cry suddenly because of a wound from a while ago.
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	\|[[Mohinder]] has shot [[Niki\|Niki/Jessica]] in painting [[:Image:Paintingmohinder.JPG\|7/8]]. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} Mohinder and Niki/Jessica are now working together. Combined with the threatening undercurrent of their first conversation as partners and the suggestion in painting 4/8 that Niki/Jessica will go nuts, Mohinder will eventually have to try to stop his new partner. <br> {{plus}} The look on Mohinder's face could be the shock of how little damage shooting Niki/Jessica has done.
	:{{plus}}Another dimension of Niki's power could be an imperviousness to physical harm, at least to bullets anyway.
	::{{plus}}Niki/Jessica has no problem killing the members of the poker game in ''[[Better Halves]]'' despite one or more members being armed.
	{{plus}}As he was clearly against the virus spreading, he might have had to, due to Niki being a new victim of the Shanti virus.
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	\|[[Mohinder]] shot [[Bob]] in painting [[:Image:Paintingmohinder.JPG\|7/8]]. \|\|None. \|\| {{plus}} Mohinder and Noah's ultimate goal is to destroy [[The Company]].
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	\|\|[[Mohinder]] shoots [[Adam Monroe]] in the painting [[:Image:Paintingmohinder.JPG\|7/8]]. \|\|None\|\| {{note}} The "surprised look" on his face could be Mohinder witnessing Adam regenerate.
	:{{minus}} This does not explain why Mohinder's eyes are so teary.<br>
	:{{note}} We don't know the story behind the [[:Image:Paintingmohinder.JPG\|7/8]] painting so there can be many reasons why Mohinder's eyes are teary.<br>
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	\|The victim in [[:Image:Painting_eight_of_eight.jpg\|8/8]] is [[Bob]].\|\|None.\|\|{{plus}}Bob wears glasses similar to [[Noah]].<br>
	{{plus}}The top of the victim's head isn't shown completely, possibly to not give away a baldspot that would immediately reveal that it is in fact Bob.<br>
	{{plus}}If Bob was the victim then it would make more sense why [[Claire]] would rather be kissing the shadowy figure in the painting since she did not know him that well. If the victim was Noah, Claire would most likely mourn no matter what the situation was.<br>
	{{plus}}In [[Out of Time]] Bob tells Mohinder that they need Claire in order to save [[Niki]] from the [[Shanti virus\|virus]]. Perhaps, upon capturing Claire, Mohinder realizes that Bob has more sinister motives for wanting her and when realizing this he shoots Bob. This would explain why Claire is in the painting (if the blonde in the painting is indeed Claire).<br>
	{{minus}}Bob is more chubbier than the man in the painting. The dead man's physical attributes suggest that it is Noah Bennet.
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	\| The two people seen embracing in picture [[:Image:Painting_eight_of_eight.jpg\|8/8]] are [[Peter]] and [[Elle]]\|\| None \|\|
	{{plus}}Elle and the figure shown both have blonde hair.
	:Elle hair is longer and diferent shaped.
	<br>{{plus}}The man seen looks similar to Peter.
	<br>{{plus}}Spoilers have said that we will see Peter and Elle kiss in future episodes.
	:{{minus}}It's much more likely that they kissed in the past, before Peter met [[Caitlin]]. He has no reason to kiss Elle. <br>
	:{{plus}}Caitlin is trapped in future Ireland.
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	\|[[Maya]] will be present at the time of [[Mr. Bennet\|Mr. Bennet's]] death. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} In addition to the gunshot to the left eye in painting [[:Image:Painting_eight_of_eight.jpg\|8/8]], the shading around his right eye suggests the "black tears" of Maya's victims.<br> {{minus}} If Maya was to be involved His entire eye would also be black, as seen in previous victims. The black around the eye is shadow created by the point of light of the painting.
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	\|Painting [[:Image:Painting_eight_of_eight.jpg\|8/8]] will come true, but [[Claire]] will bring [[Noah]] back to life. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} [[Adam]] healed [[Nathan]] ([[Four Months Ago]]).
	:{{plus}} Claire and Adam seem to have exactly the same [[rapid cell regeneration\|power]].<br>
	{{note}} Claire does not know she can heal other people but she can find it out 'accidentally'.<br>
	{{note}}It is possible that another bodily fluid, such as tears from either Adam or Claire, could heal people.
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	\|The girl in the painting is [[Elle]]. \|\| None. \|\|
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imported>Lord Sylar at 19:37, 17 November 2007

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	:{{minus}} This does not explain why Mohinder's eyes are so teary.<br>		:{{minus}} This does not explain why Mohinder's eyes are so teary.<br>
	:{{note}} We don't know the story behind the [[:Image:Paintingmohinder.JPG\|7/8]] painting so there can be many reasons why Mohinder's eyes are teary.<br>		:{{note}} We don't know the story behind the [[:Image:Paintingmohinder.JPG\|7/8]] painting so there can be many reasons why Mohinder's eyes are teary.<br>
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	\|The painting [[:Image:Painting_eight_of_eight.jpg\|8/8]] needs to be rotated to be viewed accurately. \|\|This would mean that [[Noah]] is standing and the other figures are lying down\|\| {{plus}} Half of the painting is in shadow, so an important element of the scenery may be obscured. This could be the surface on which the two characters are lying. <br> {{minus}} Most people aren't still standing after being shot through the eye.
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	\|The victim in [[:Image:Painting_eight_of_eight.jpg\|8/8]] is [[Bob]].\|\|None.\|\|{{plus}}Bob wears glasses similar to [[Noah]].<br>		\|The victim in [[:Image:Painting_eight_of_eight.jpg\|8/8]] is [[Bob]].\|\|None.\|\|{{plus}}Bob wears glasses similar to [[Noah]].<br>

imported>General Shane at 10:36, 17 November 2007

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	:{{note}} We don't know the story behind the [[:Image:Paintingmohinder.JPG\|7/8]] painting so there can be many reasons why Mohinder's eyes are teary.<br>		:{{note}} We don't know the story behind the [[:Image:Paintingmohinder.JPG\|7/8]] painting so there can be many reasons why Mohinder's eyes are teary.<br>
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	\|The painting [[:Image:Painting_eight_of_eight.jpg\|8/8]] needs to be rotated to be viewed accurately. \|\|This would mean that [[Noah]] is standing and the other figures are lying down\|\| {{plus}} Half of the painting is in shadow, so an important element of the scenery may be obscured. This could be the surface on which the two characters are lying.		\|The painting [[:Image:Painting_eight_of_eight.jpg\|8/8]] needs to be rotated to be viewed accurately. \|\|This would mean that [[Noah]] is standing and the other figures are lying down\|\| {{plus}} Half of the painting is in shadow, so an important element of the scenery may be obscured. This could be the surface on which the two characters are lying. <br> {{minus}} Most people aren't still standing after being shot through the eye.
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	\|The victim in [[:Image:Painting_eight_of_eight.jpg\|8/8]] is [[Bob]].\|\|None.\|\|{{plus}}Bob wears glasses similar to [[Noah]].<br>		\|The victim in [[:Image:Painting_eight_of_eight.jpg\|8/8]] is [[Bob]].\|\|None.\|\|{{plus}}Bob wears glasses similar to [[Noah]].<br>

imported>Dean Harper at 03:03, 17 November 2007

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	{{note}}It is possible that another bodily fluid, such as tears from either Adam or Claire, could heal people.		{{note}}It is possible that another bodily fluid, such as tears from either Adam or Claire, could heal people.
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			\|The girl in the painting is [[Elle]]. \|\| None. \|\|
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imported>Dean Harper at 02:59, 17 November 2007

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	{{plus}}Future events painted by Isaac have been prevented, ''e.g.'' [[:Image:Painting the explosion.jpg\|the bomb did not go off in the middle of New York City]] in our current [[timeline]]. (''[[How to Stop an Exploding Man]]'').<br>{{plus}}Isaac could have altered the painting after he initially painted it.<br>{{plus}}The painting could depict events in someone's nightmare, as induced by [[Maury Parkman]].<br>		{{plus}}Future events painted by Isaac have been prevented, ''e.g.'' [[:Image:Painting the explosion.jpg\|the bomb did not go off in the middle of New York City]] in our current [[timeline]]. (''[[How to Stop an Exploding Man]]'').<br>{{plus}}Isaac could have altered the painting after he initially painted it.<br>{{plus}}The painting could depict events in someone's nightmare, as induced by [[Maury Parkman]].<br>
	:{{minus}} [[Isaac Mendez\|Isaac]]'s paintings always seem to be of a general future; one that more than one person might or might not be able to witness. Maury Parkman's nightmares are visible only to the person experiencing them, as evidenced by ''[[Fight or Flight]]''.		:{{minus}} [[Isaac Mendez\|Isaac]]'s paintings always seem to be of a general future; one that more than one person might or might not be able to witness. Maury Parkman's nightmares are visible only to the person experiencing them, as evidenced by ''[[Fight or Flight]]''.
			<br> {{minus}} The man in the painting had hazel or brown eyes, but [[Noah]] has blue eyes.
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	\| The painting portraying Noah's death is a fake planted by the [[Company]]. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} It is very convenient that this was the only painting left for Mohinder to find. <br>{{note}} This implies that the Company knows about Noah and Mohinder's alliance. <br>		\| The painting portraying Noah's death is a fake planted by the [[Company]]. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} It is very convenient that this was the only painting left for Mohinder to find. <br>{{note}} This implies that the Company knows about Noah and Mohinder's alliance. <br>

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	\| The two people seen embracing in picture [[:Image:Painting_eight_of_eight.jpg\|8/8]] are [[Peter]] and [[Elle]]\|\| None \|\|		\| The two people seen embracing in picture [[:Image:Painting_eight_of_eight.jpg\|8/8]] are [[Peter]] and [[Elle]]\|\| None \|\|
	{{plus}}Elle and the figure shown both have blonde hair.		{{plus}}Elle and the figure shown both have blonde hair.
			:Elle hair is longer and diferent shaped.
	<br>{{plus}}The man seen looks similar to Peter.		<br>{{plus}}The man seen looks similar to Peter.
	<br>{{plus}}Spoilers have said that we will see Peter and Elle kiss in future episodes.		<br>{{plus}}Spoilers have said that we will see Peter and Elle kiss in future episodes.

imported>Rexmaizer at 21:57, 15 November 2007

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	:{{plus}} Claire and Adam seem to have exactly the same [[rapid cell regeneration\|power]].<br>		:{{plus}} Claire and Adam seem to have exactly the same [[rapid cell regeneration\|power]].<br>
	{{note}} Claire does not know she can heal other people but she can find it out 'accidentally'.<br>		{{note}} Claire does not know she can heal other people but she can find it out 'accidentally'.<br>
	{{note}}It is possible that another bodily fluid ~~could heal people~~ such as tears, from either Adam or Claire.		{{note}}It is possible that another bodily fluid, such as tears from either Adam or Claire, could heal people.
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