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imported>Altes at 10:19, 2 June 2010

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imported>Altes at 10:19, 2 June 2010

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	{{minus}} This would rather result in pushing glasses, not breaking them.<br />		{{minus}} This would rather result in pushing glasses, not breaking them.<br />
	:{{note}} It depends on how fast the air was fired, and how dense the "sculpting" made it.<br />		:{{note}} It depends on how fast the air was fired, and how dense the "sculpting" made it.<br />
			{{plus}} [[Mulligan]] felt something when [[Pearl]] tried to shoot him with her ability.<br />
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	\| Shattering is related to [[telekinesis]]. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} Telekinesis allows the user to move objects at a distance; [[Trevor]] was able to destroy objects at a distance.<br />		\| Shattering is related to [[telekinesis]]. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} Telekinesis allows the user to move objects at a distance; [[Trevor]] was able to destroy objects at a distance.<br />

imported>Intuitive Empath at 18:01, 18 May 2010

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	:{{note}} Ceramic contains glass.<br />		:{{note}} Ceramic contains glass.<br />
	::{{note}} Different types of ceramic are composed of different materials. A porcelain sink is ceramic, but so is a clay pot from the Bronze Age.<br />		::{{note}} Different types of ceramic are composed of different materials. A porcelain sink is ceramic, but so is a clay pot from the Bronze Age.<br />
	{{minus}} Trevor is supposed to have a full knowledge of his ability. When Sylar try to kill him, Trevor [[:Image:Trevor Aiming At Sylar.jpg\|try to use his power on Sylar]]. It ~~demonster~~ that Trevor knew that he can hurt also Sylar and not only the glass.		{{minus}} Trevor is supposed to have a full knowledge of his ability. When Sylar try to kill him, Trevor [[:Image:Trevor Aiming At Sylar.jpg\|try to use his power on Sylar]]. It demonstrates that Trevor knew that he can hurt also Sylar and not only the glass.<br />
			:{{note}} Trevor was never said to have full knowledge on his ability. He could have had no clue what his power would do to Sylar and only tried it out of desperation.<br />
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imported>Tanderix at 12:09, 18 May 2010

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	:{{note}} Ceramic contains glass.<br />		:{{note}} Ceramic contains glass.<br />
	::{{note}} Different types of ceramic are composed of different materials. A porcelain sink is ceramic, but so is a clay pot from the Bronze Age.<br />		::{{note}} Different types of ceramic are composed of different materials. A porcelain sink is ceramic, but so is a clay pot from the Bronze Age.<br />
			{{minus}} Trevor is supposed to have a full knowledge of his ability. When Sylar try to kill him, Trevor [[:Image:Trevor Aiming At Sylar.jpg\|try to use his power on Sylar]]. It demonster that Trevor knew that he can hurt also Sylar and not only the glass.
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imported>D and d 123 at 11:54, 18 May 2010

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	{{minus}} Directing a sonic frequency along a thin line to affect a single object would be like trying to strike a nail on the head with an ICBM launched from the other side of the world.<br />		{{minus}} Directing a sonic frequency along a thin line to affect a single object would be like trying to strike a nail on the head with an ICBM launched from the other side of the world.<br />
	:{{plus}} It could be an effect of the ability, how it works. Artistic license exists.<br />		:{{plus}} It could be an effect of the ability, how it works. Artistic license exists.<br />
			::{{minus}} The level of impossibility would be highly abnormal, given Heroes' history of trying to make scientifically plausible abilities.<br />
			::{{minus}} [[Sound manipulation]] is an ability which explicitly deals with frequencies and sonic energy. None of its users were able to focus energy to the degree necessary to destroy a single object in a room without damaging anything else.<br />
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	\| [[Shattering]] worked by sculpting air into a solid form, and then firing it at a target. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} It seems plausible.<br />		\| [[Shattering]] worked by sculpting air into a solid form, and then firing it at a target. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} It seems plausible.<br />

imported>D and d 123 at 11:48, 18 May 2010

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	{{minus}} In the iStory Purpose, an evolved human named [[Pearl]] used shattering to destroy a ceramic sink.<br />		{{minus}} In the iStory Purpose, an evolved human named [[Pearl]] used shattering to destroy a ceramic sink.<br />
	:{{note}} Ceramic contains glass.<br />		:{{note}} Ceramic contains glass.<br />
			::{{note}} Different types of ceramic are composed of different materials. A porcelain sink is ceramic, but so is a clay pot from the Bronze Age.<br />
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imported>Intuitive Empath at 03:11, 15 May 2010

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	:{{minus}} Blowing up someone's head would destroy the brain, something Sylar uses most of the time to acquire abilities.<br />		:{{minus}} Blowing up someone's head would destroy the brain, something Sylar uses most of the time to acquire abilities.<br />
	{{minus}} Trevor's ability was referred to as molecular combustion in a Primatech page. That term implies that he shattered the glasses by causing their molecular structure to violently disintegrate.<br />		{{minus}} Trevor's ability was referred to as molecular combustion in a Primatech page. That term implies that he shattered the glasses by causing their molecular structure to violently disintegrate.<br />
	{{minus}} In the iStory Purpose, an evolved human named [[Pearl]] used shattering to destroy a ceramic sink.		{{minus}} In the iStory Purpose, an evolved human named [[Pearl]] used shattering to destroy a ceramic sink.<br />
			:{{note}} Ceramic contains glass.<br />
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imported>D and d 123 at 03:03, 15 May 2010

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	:{{minus}} Blowing up someone's head would destroy the brain, something Sylar uses most of the time to acquire abilities.<br />		:{{minus}} Blowing up someone's head would destroy the brain, something Sylar uses most of the time to acquire abilities.<br />
	{{minus}} Trevor's ability was referred to as molecular combustion in a Primatech page. That term implies that he shattered the glasses by causing their molecular structure to violently disintegrate.<br />		{{minus}} Trevor's ability was referred to as molecular combustion in a Primatech page. That term implies that he shattered the glasses by causing their molecular structure to violently disintegrate.<br />
			{{minus}} In the iStory Purpose, an evolved human named [[Pearl]] used shattering to destroy a ceramic sink.
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imported>D and d 123 at 22:35, 16 March 2010

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imported>Yoshi n1: Shattering

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	{{minus}} Glass objects would make good 'targets' for the demonstration of many abilities ([[alchemy]], [[disintegration]], telekinesis...). They're small, fairly ubiquitous, and cheap.<br />		{{minus}} Glass objects would make good 'targets' for the demonstration of many abilities ([[alchemy]], [[disintegration]], telekinesis...). They're small, fairly ubiquitous, and cheap.<br />
	:{{note}} If shattering was simply blasting or exploding objects, it should have been demonstrated on a less hazardous material. Glass, while cheap, is more expensive then a plastic cup or something similar. Glass shattering would also leave behind fragments, which are difficult to see and are very sharp.<br />		:{{note}} If shattering was simply blasting or exploding objects, it should have been demonstrated on a less hazardous material. Glass, while cheap, is more expensive then a plastic cup or something similar. Glass shattering would also leave behind fragments, which are difficult to see and are very sharp.<br />
			::{{minus}} Since Trevor didn't explain what he was going to do before blowing up the glasses, cost wouldn't be a factor.<br />
	::{{minus}} Glass objects may have been easier for the SFX team to 'shatter'. Making a plastic cup appear to shatter would be much more difficult; plastic cups were invented so people wouldn't have to break out a dustpan and broom every time they dropped a glass.<br />		::{{minus}} Glass objects may have been easier for the SFX team to 'shatter'. Making a plastic cup appear to shatter would be much more difficult; plastic cups were invented so people wouldn't have to break out a dustpan and broom every time they dropped a glass.<br />
	::{{minus}} If you shatter an object into very small pieces, almost any substance could be hazardous. If you blew up a plastic cup, then floating bits of plastic could end up in your lungs. Blow up a piece of wood, and you could produce a flying cloud of splinters.<br />		::{{minus}} If you shatter an object into very small pieces, almost any substance could be hazardous. If you blew up a plastic cup, then floating bits of plastic could end up in your lungs. Blow up a piece of wood, and you could produce a flying cloud of splinters.<br />
	::{{minus}} Destroying a glass is more visually impressive than destroying a Dixie cup.<br />		::{{minus}} Destroying a glass is more visually impressive than destroying a Dixie cup.<br />
	:::{{plus}} Glass is a much more obvious hazard. You're essentially guaranteed to have trouble if you've shattered glass, but the chances of inhaling bits of plastic after blowing up a plastic cup are low.<br />		:::{{plus}} Glass is a much more obvious hazard. You're essentially guaranteed to have trouble if you've shattered glass, but the chances of inhaling bits of plastic after blowing up a plastic cup are low.<br />
			::::{{minus}} Gabriel seemed to have rather old-fashioned views on kitchenware. It may be that glasses were all he used to drink from.<br />
	::::{{minus}} Trevor's power reduced the glasses to very, very small pieces. Using the ability on a plastic cup could create a floating cloud of plastic fibers which would then be carried throughout the room by the force of detonation.<br />		::::{{minus}} Trevor's power reduced the glasses to very, very small pieces. Using the ability on a plastic cup could create a floating cloud of plastic fibers which would then be carried throughout the room by the force of detonation.<br />
	::::{{minus}} Shattering seemed to reduce the glasses to minuscule pieces. It may have made the glass into rounded chunks that could be cleaned up afterwards with no risk of injury.<br />		::::{{minus}} Shattering seemed to reduce the glasses to minuscule pieces. It may have made the glass into rounded chunks that could be cleaned up afterwards with no risk of injury.<br />
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	:{{minus}} Sylar's ultimate goal was to procure more powers; using an ability that could potentially turn a special's brain into a thin layer of goo laminated over the walls, floor, and ceiling would be very stupid.<br />		:{{minus}} Sylar's ultimate goal was to procure more powers; using an ability that could potentially turn a special's brain into a thin layer of goo laminated over the walls, floor, and ceiling would be very stupid.<br />
	::{{plus}} Sylar didn't kill evolved humans exclusively, and shattering would likely be able to do more then kill; he doesn't have to aim for the head. There were plenty of situations where having a psychokinetic gun would have been useful to Sylar.<br />		::{{plus}} Sylar didn't kill evolved humans exclusively, and shattering would likely be able to do more then kill; he doesn't have to aim for the head. There were plenty of situations where having a psychokinetic gun would have been useful to Sylar.<br />
			:::{{minus}} Murders committed via telekinesis are at least semi-explicable by the laws of science (as the only difference between stabbing someone with a knife and throwing it at them telekinetically is that the latter method leaves no trace evidence on the handle). If he had killed, say, the FBI agent guarding [[Molly Walker]] ([[One Giant Leap]]) by blowing him up, then the government's questions would have been words to the tune of "Oh God, what manner of alien death-ray does this man have? We must get it for ourselves!"<br />
	::{{minus}} Also, Trevor's existence was unknown until after the events of Season One. It would have confused viewers to see him blow up items/people; they would have wondered how telekinesis (one of the primary weapons in Sylar's arsenal) could do that.<br />		::{{minus}} Also, Trevor's existence was unknown until after the events of Season One. It would have confused viewers to see him blow up items/people; they would have wondered how telekinesis (one of the primary weapons in Sylar's arsenal) could do that.<br />
	:::{{plus}} Given that shattering was not shown at all in Season One, giving it a useless function would quell the curiosity that would be aroused from not seeing it.<br />		:::{{plus}} Given that shattering was not shown at all in Season One, giving it a useless function would quell the curiosity that would be aroused from not seeing it.<br />
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	{{minus}} Sylar absorbed [[alchemy]] from [[Bob Bishop]], but has only used it once in the entire series. Just because Sylar didn't use an ability he absorbed doesn't mean it was useless.<br />		{{minus}} Sylar absorbed [[alchemy]] from [[Bob Bishop]], but has only used it once in the entire series. Just because Sylar didn't use an ability he absorbed doesn't mean it was useless.<br />
	{{minus}} One of Sylar's earliest victims, [[David]], appeared to have been decapitated completely. Sylar may have tested Trevor's power on him, then discarded it when it proved too messy. An exploded body would shower the surroundings with blood. Sylar's ''modus operandi'' involves slipping away after a kill. Being covered with scraps of human flesh would make blending into the crowd almost impossible.<br />		{{minus}} One of Sylar's earliest victims, [[David]], appeared to have been decapitated completely. Sylar may have tested Trevor's power on him, then discarded it when it proved too messy. An exploded body would shower the surroundings with blood. Sylar's ''modus operandi'' involves slipping away after a kill. Being covered with scraps of human flesh would make blending into the crowd almost impossible.<br />
	:{{minus}} Blowing up someone head would destroy the brain, something Sylar uses most of the time to acquire abilities.<br />		:{{minus}} Blowing up someone's head would destroy the brain, something Sylar uses most of the time to acquire abilities.<br />
			{{minus}} Trevor's ability was referred to as molecular combustion in a Primatech page. That term implies that he shattered the glasses by causing their molecular structure to violently disintegrate.<br />
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