Theory:The Company's founders - Revision history

imported>Ryangibsonstewart: grammar, link

2011-05-21T14:41:58Z

grammar, link

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imported>Ryangibsonstewart: grammar, link

2011-05-21T14:41:58Z

grammar, link

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	{{minus}} [[Kaito]] said there were only twelve.<br />		{{minus}} [[Kaito]] said there were only twelve.<br />
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	\| The fifth founder, [[Kaito Nakamura]], was actually ~~suppose~~ to be [[Chris Coolidge]]. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} [[Angela]] says that her dream brought her to Chris' concert.<br />		\| The fifth founder, [[Kaito Nakamura]], was actually supposed to be [[Chris Coolidge]]. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} [[Angela]] says that [[Angela's dreams\|her dream]] brought her to Chris's concert.<br />
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imported>Mr. muggles mike at 00:07, 21 May 2011

2011-05-21T00:07:30Z

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	:{{note}} One of the Company founders might have had [[telekinesis]] or [[technopathy]], so they wouldn't have needed a photographer.<br />		:{{note}} One of the Company founders might have had [[telekinesis]] or [[technopathy]], so they wouldn't have needed a photographer.<br />
	{{minus}} [[Kaito]] said there were only twelve.<br />		{{minus}} [[Kaito]] said there were only twelve.<br />
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			\| The fifth founder, [[Kaito Nakamura]], was actually suppose to be [[Chris Coolidge]]. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} [[Angela]] says that her dream brought her to Chris' concert.<br />
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imported>Intuitive Empath at 15:11, 21 April 2010

2010-04-21T15:11:16Z

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	{{minus}} The tsunami could have been stopped via a means other than weather control.<br />		{{minus}} The tsunami could have been stopped via a means other than weather control.<br />
	:{{plus}} Freezing would allow a tsunami to become a snowstorm, we have seen this power, and it isn't unlikely that one of the twelve also had this power.<br />		:{{plus}} Freezing would allow a tsunami to become a snowstorm, we have seen this power, and it isn't unlikely that one of the twelve also had this power.<br />
	:{{minus}}But weather control is the best explanation for the tsunami becoming a snowstorm.<br />		:{{minus}} But weather control is the best explanation for the tsunami becoming a snowstorm.<br />
	:{{minus}} Weather control implies that the tsunami could have been avoided altogether. The snowstorm implies that it was averted. Perhaps it took the abilities of several [[evolved humans]] to predict and neutralize the tsunami into a relatively harmless snowstorm.<br />		:{{minus}} Weather control implies that the tsunami could have been avoided altogether. The snowstorm implies that it was averted. Perhaps it took the abilities of several [[evolved humans]] to predict and neutralize the tsunami into a relatively harmless snowstorm.<br />
	{{minus}} Bob could have invented or embellished the story just to try and get on Nathan's and Matt's good side.<br />		{{minus}} Bob could have invented or embellished the story just to try and get on Nathan's and Matt's good side.<br />
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	:{{note}} Tsunamis are not a type of weather, but snowstorms are.<br />		:{{note}} Tsunamis are not a type of weather, but snowstorms are.<br />
	::{{note}} Weather control would create a snowstorm, but could not deal with the wave.<br />		::{{note}} Weather control would create a snowstorm, but could not deal with the wave.<br />
	:::{{note}} Waves are controlled by the gravity of the ~~Sun~~ and ~~Moon~~ ~~AND~~ wind, so someone with weather control might have been able to blow the tsunami into the air and turn it into snow~~. That might sound stupid, but evolved humans can be very powerful~~.<br />		:::{{note}} Waves are controlled by the gravity of the sun and moon, and the wind, so someone with weather control might have been able to blow the tsunami into the air and turn it into snow.<br />
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	\| The [[group of twelve]] have been using [[Adam Monroe]]'s blood against his will, as a fountain of youth since 1977. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} They don't appear to have aged in 30 years.<br />		\| The [[group of twelve]] have been using [[Adam Monroe]]'s blood against his will, as a fountain of youth since 1977. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} They don't appear to have aged in 30 years.<br />

imported>Kyogre blast at 10:29, 21 April 2010

2010-04-21T10:29:41Z

imported>Kyogre blast at 10:26, 21 April 2010

2010-04-21T10:26:11Z

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	:{{note}} Tsunamis are not a type of weather, but snowstorms are.<br />		:{{note}} Tsunamis are not a type of weather, but snowstorms are.<br />
	::{{note}} Weather control would create a snowstorm, but could not deal with the wave.<br />		::{{note}} Weather control would create a snowstorm, but could not deal with the wave.<br />
			:::{{note}} Waves are controlled by the gravity of the Sun and Moon AND wind, so someone with weather control might have been able to blow the tsunami into the air and turn it into snow. That might sound stupid, but evolved humans can be very powerful.<br />
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	\| The [[group of twelve]] have been using [[Adam Monroe]]'s blood against his will, as a fountain of youth since 1977. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} They don't appear to have aged in 30 years.<br />		\| The [[group of twelve]] have been using [[Adam Monroe]]'s blood against his will, as a fountain of youth since 1977. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} They don't appear to have aged in 30 years.<br />

imported>Mc hammark: several characters are dead-no way they are running a new company-defunct theory

2010-04-10T12:52:22Z

several characters are dead-no way they are running a new company-defunct theory

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	{{plus}} Victoria could be an American of Russian/Polish ancestry.<br />		{{plus}} Victoria could be an American of Russian/Polish ancestry.<br />
	{{minus}} If Victoria Pratt was clairvoyant she would have known Adam was coming and that Peter could also regenerate.<br />		{{minus}} If Victoria Pratt was clairvoyant she would have known Adam was coming and that Peter could also regenerate.<br />
			:{{plus}} Victoria knew that Peter was with Adam, even though Peter had not mentioned him. Clairvoyance would not allow her to know Peter could regenerate.<br />
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	\| Not every member was an evolved human, but a few instead had other, more worldly attributes to contribute. \|\| None \|\|{{plus}} Kaito Nakamura is a powerful industrialist (important ally and you would want someone experienced in running a company) and Victoria Pratt is a biological engineer (an obvious asset). Both have yet to demonstrate an actual ability. Being dead probably poses a problem to any future demonstration, but Nakamura and Pratt were both attacked and killed without displaying any abnormal defense. Nakamura actually implied during Hiro's sword training that Hiro was the first evolved human in the family. Pratt had to resort to a shotgun for her defense.<br />		\| Not every member was an evolved human, but a few instead had other, more worldly attributes to contribute. \|\| None \|\|{{plus}} Kaito Nakamura is a powerful industrialist (important ally and you would want someone experienced in running a company) and Victoria Pratt is a biological engineer (an obvious asset). Both have yet to demonstrate an actual ability. Being dead probably poses a problem to any future demonstration, but Nakamura and Pratt were both attacked and killed without displaying any abnormal defense. Nakamura actually implied during Hiro's sword training that Hiro was the first evolved human in the family. Pratt had to resort to a shotgun for her defense.<br />
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	{{minus}} The photograph could have been taken using a time-delayed camera or via one of the founders in the photo using telekinesis.<br />		{{minus}} The photograph could have been taken using a time-delayed camera or via one of the founders in the photo using telekinesis.<br />
	{{minus}} Or, they might have just hired a photographer to take a picture of them as a corporate event. It's fairly common...		{{minus}} Or, they might have just hired a photographer to take a picture of them as a corporate event. It's fairly common...
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	\| [[Peter]], [[Nathan]], [[Mohinder]], [[Hiro]], [[Claire]], [[Elle]], [[Matt]], [[Tracy]] or [[Barbara]], [[Noah]], [[Sylar]] and [[Maya]] will become the new group of twelve, eventually and run the company together. \|\| None \|\|{{plus}} Their relation to the [[The Company's founders\|original group]] may influence it.<br />
	{{minus}} Elle is dead.<br />
	{{minus}} Maya currently has no wish to be connected with Mohinder, due to his animalistic behavior after he injected himself with an uncatalyzed formula.<br />
	{{minus}} Sylar and Nathan can only be only considered as one person.<br />
	:{{minus}} Nathan is dead for good.<br />
	{{note}} The future selves status of those twelve are either dead or unknown, this would be unlikely for even a main story line to come. Considering one if not all of the 10 remaining are killed by the end of the series.<br />
	{{minus}} The Company has already been "brought back", it's now part of the US government.<br />
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	\| Lots of different people are trying to eliminate the group of twelve so they could become part of a new group of twelve. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} [[Linderman]], [[Maury Parkman]], [[Victoria Pratt]], [[Bob Bishop]] and [[Kaito Nakamura]] were all murdered on purpose.<br />		\| Lots of different people are trying to eliminate the group of twelve so they could become part of a new group of twelve. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} [[Linderman]], [[Maury Parkman]], [[Victoria Pratt]], [[Bob Bishop]] and [[Kaito Nakamura]] were all murdered on purpose.<br />

imported>PJDEP at 00:08, 1 March 2010

2010-03-01T00:08:21Z

imported>Altes: it's kinda obvious, as there were only 11 of them on the photo; moved the theory about Victoria Pratt to her page

2009-12-25T18:01:02Z

it's kinda obvious, as there were only 11 of them on the photo; moved the theory about Victoria Pratt to her page

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	\| The [[group of twelve]] have been using [[Adam Monroe]]'s blood against his will, as a fountain of youth since 1977. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} They don't appear to have aged in 30 years.<br />		\| The [[group of twelve]] have been using [[Adam Monroe]]'s blood against his will, as a fountain of youth since 1977. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} They don't appear to have aged in 30 years.<br />
	:{{minus}} Yes, they do. The picture was obviously taken less than 30 years ago, based on the appearance of [[Kaito Nakamura]] and [[Victoria Pratt]] as seen 30 years ago in ''[[Episode:Truth and Consequences\|Truth and Consequences]]''.<br />		:{{minus}} Yes, they do. The picture was obviously taken less than 30 years ago, based on the appearance of [[Kaito Nakamura]] and [[Victoria Pratt]] as seen 30 years ago in ''[[Episode:Truth and Consequences\|Truth and Consequences]]''.<br />
	{{minus}} If the [[Group of Twelve]] had been using [[Adam Monroe]]'s blood against his will, then [[Charles Deveaux]] would have recovered and would not have needed [[Peter Petrelli]] to be his hospice nurse.<br />		{{minus}} If the [[Group of Twelve]] had been using Adam Monroe's blood against his will, then [[Charles Deveaux]] would have recovered and would not have needed [[Peter Petrelli]] to be his hospice nurse.<br />
	{{plus}} [[Charles Deveaux]] is probably one of the good guys, and has refused to use the blood. We know there are members of the [[group of twelve]] that are helping [[Adam]]. [[Victoria Pratt]] may have revealed that Mr. and Mrs. [[Petrelli]] are not the good guys.<br />		{{plus}} Charles Deveaux is probably one of the good guys, and has refused to use the blood. We know there are members of the [[group of twelve]] that are helping Adam. [[Victoria Pratt]] may have revealed that Mr. and Mrs. Petrelli are not the good guys.<br />
	{{minus}} If they were using Adam's blood, he would have been unable to kill any of them and Sylar would have been unable to kill Bob Bishop.<br />		{{minus}} If they were using Adam's blood, he would have been unable to kill any of them and Sylar would have been unable to kill Bob Bishop.<br />
	:{{plus}} There is no indication that injecting oneself with regenerative blood has permanent effects; Nathan, for instance, was shot down (albeit somehow later revived).<br />		:{{plus}} There is no indication that injecting oneself with regenerative blood has permanent effects; Nathan, for instance, was shot down (albeit somehow later revived).<br />
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		⚫	\| The [[journal female 4\|journal female]] who was believed to have clairvoyance that gave a red hair sample was none other than [[Victoria Pratt]], the woman who "wanted to be left alone". However, her clairvoyance is so developed that she is basically omniscient, almost creating astral projection. \|\| None. \|\| {{minus}} The journal female was of Russian/Polish decent. Victoria Pratt was clearly American.<br />
	\| The photograph is not a picture of the entire [[group of twelve]]. \|\| [[Kaito Nakamura]] told [[Angela Petrelli]], "Charles Deveaux. Linderman. Your husband. All of them. Dead. Now there are nine." (''[[Four Months Ago...]]'') \|\| {{plus}} Everyone in the photo who has been identified is a member of the group of twelve, but this doesn't necessarily prove the unidentified people are.<br />
	{{plus}} The fact that cutouts of the heads are being used to intimidate members of the group doesn't prove anything either. It only means that everyone that Monroe intended to kill is in the photo.<br />
	{{plus}} [[Kaito Nakamura\|Kaito]] says 3 of the twelve are dead and 9 are left but he also says ''all of them'' meaning there could be more.<br />
	{{minus}} [[Kaito]] could mean that 3 of the twelve are already dead and there are nine left, but including [[Angela Petrelli]] and himself.<br />
	:{{note}} It's possible that Adam is simply not counted among the twelve. According to [[Bob]], he brought the twelve together. That does not necessarily mean he was a member.<br />
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⚫	\| The [[journal female 4\|journal female]] who was believed to have clairvoyance that gave a red hair sample was none other than [[Victoria Pratt]], the woman who "wanted to be left alone". However, her clairvoyance is so developed that she is basically omniscient, almost creating astral projection. \|\| None. \|\| {{minus}} The [[journal female ~~4\|journal female]]~~ was of Russian/Polish decent. [[Victoria Pratt]] was clearly American.<br />
	{{plus}} Victoria could be an American of Russian/Polish ancestry.<br />		{{plus}} Victoria could be an American of Russian/Polish ancestry.<br />
	{{minus}} If [[Victoria Pratt]] was clairvoyant she would have known Adam was coming and that Peter could also regenerate.<br />		{{minus}} If Victoria Pratt was clairvoyant she would have known Adam was coming and that Peter could also regenerate.<br />
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	\| Not every member was an evolved human, but a few instead had other, more worldly attributes to contribute. \|\| None. \|\|{{plus}} Kaito Nakamura is a powerful industrialist (important ally and you would want someone experienced in running a company) and Victoria Pratt is a biological engineer (an obvious asset). Both have yet to demonstrate an actual ability. Being dead probably poses a problem to any future demonstration, but Nakamura and Pratt were both attacked and killed without displaying any abnormal defense. Nakamura actually implied during Hiro's sword training that Hiro was the first evolved human in the family. Pratt had to resort to a shotgun for her defense.<br />		\| Not every member was an evolved human, but a few instead had other, more worldly attributes to contribute. \|\| None. \|\|{{plus}} Kaito Nakamura is a powerful industrialist (important ally and you would want someone experienced in running a company) and Victoria Pratt is a biological engineer (an obvious asset). Both have yet to demonstrate an actual ability. Being dead probably poses a problem to any future demonstration, but Nakamura and Pratt were both attacked and killed without displaying any abnormal defense. Nakamura actually implied during Hiro's sword training that Hiro was the first evolved human in the family. Pratt had to resort to a shotgun for her defense.<br />
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	{{minus}} [[Bob]] tells [[Mohinder]] that the company was founded by normal people with extraordinary powers. (''[[Four Months Later]]'')<br />		{{minus}} [[Bob]] tells [[Mohinder]] that the company was founded by normal people with extraordinary powers. (''[[Four Months Later]]'')<br />
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	\| [[The Company's founders]] all have [[powers]], although some of them may be passive. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} [[Angela Petrelli]], [[Arthur Petrelli]], [[Adam Monroe]], [[Daniel Linderman]], [[Maury Parkman]], [[Charles Deveaux]] and [[Robert Bishop]] all have displayed powers.<br />		\| [[The Company's founders]] all have [[powers]], although some of them may be passive. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} [[Angela Petrelli]], [[Arthur Petrelli]], [[Adam Monroe]], [[Daniel Linderman]], [[Maury Parkman]], [[Charles Deveaux]] and [[Robert Bishop]] all have displayed powers.<br />
	{{minus}} [[Kaito Nakamura]] and [[Victoria Pratt]] haven't displayed powers of any kind.<br />		{{minus}} [[Kaito Nakamura]] and [[Victoria Pratt]] haven't displayed powers of any kind.<br />
	:{{plus}} Kaito Nakamura is hinted at having powers. Kaito is a parent of another [[evolved human]].<br />		:{{plus}} Kaito Nakamura is hinted at having powers. Kaito is a parent of another [[evolved human]].<br />
	{{plus}} [[Harry Fletcher]] and [[Paula Gramble]] are on the list ~~what~~ implies that they have the gene of the evolved humans.<br />		{{plus}} [[Harry Fletcher]] and [[Paula Gramble]] are on the list which implies that they have the gene of the evolved humans.<br />
	{{plus}} [[Carlos Mendez]] is related to [[Isaac]], who was an [[evolved human]].<br />		{{plus}} [[Carlos Mendez]] is related to [[Isaac]], who was an evolved human.<br />
	{{plus}} It is implied by [[Angela]] that the twelve came together to save the world.<br />		{{plus}} It is implied by Angela that the twelve came together to save the world.<br />
	{{plus}} [[Bob]] tells [[Mohinder]] that the company was founded by normal people with extraordinary powers. (''[[Four Months Later]]'')<br />		{{plus}} Bob tells [[Mohinder]] that the company was founded by normal people with extraordinary powers. (''[[Four Months Later]]'')<br />
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	\| Victoria Pratt's ability was genetic manipulation. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} It's strongly hinted that all founders have powers.<br />
	{{plus}} An ability of this extent could easily give her a position in the founders.<br />
	{{plus}} Someone controlling this ability could have create so many strains in few months.<br />
	{{plus}} That would explain why she was a bio engineer.<br />
	{{minus}} If she had the ability to manipulate genetics, then why would they be manipulating a virus to eradicate abilities when they could just have her locate the source in a person's DNA and eradicate it herself?<br />
	{{plus}} It may have helped develop [[Genetic modification formula\|the formula]].<br />
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	\| There is a person missing from the picture, but involved in the founding of the Company--the photographer. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} Someone may be holding the camera, and would be present at an intimate occasion amongst the founders of the Company.<br />		\| There is a person missing from the picture, but involved in the founding of the Company--the photographer. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} Someone may be holding the camera, and would be present at an intimate occasion amongst the founders of the Company.<br />
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	{{minus}} Maya currently has no wish to be connected with Mohinder, due to his animalistic behavior after he injected himself with an uncatalyzed formula.<br />		{{minus}} Maya currently has no wish to be connected with Mohinder, due to his animalistic behavior after he injected himself with an uncatalyzed formula.<br />
	{{minus}} Sylar and Nathan can only be only considered as one person.<br />		{{minus}} Sylar and Nathan can only be only considered as one person.<br />
			:{{minus}} Nathan is dead for good.<br />
	{{note}} The future selves status of those twelve are either dead or unknown, this would be unlikely for even a main story line to come. Considering one if not all of the 10 remaining are killed by the end of the series.<br />		{{note}} The future selves status of those twelve are either dead or unknown, this would be unlikely for even a main story line to come. Considering one if not all of the 10 remaining are killed by the end of the series.<br />
	{{minus}} The Company has already been "brought back", it's now part of the US government.<br />		{{minus}} The Company has already been "brought back", it's now part of the US government.<br />
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	\| Lots of different people are trying to eliminate the group of twelve so they could become part of a new group of twelve. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} [[Linderman]], [[Maury Parkman]], [[Victoria Pratt]], [[Bob Bishop]] and [[Kaito Nakamura]] were all murdered on purpose.<br />		\| Lots of different people are trying to eliminate the group of twelve so they could become part of a new group of twelve. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} [[Linderman]], [[Maury Parkman]], [[Victoria Pratt]], [[Bob Bishop]] and [[Kaito Nakamura]] were all murdered on purpose.<br />
	{{plus}} [[Arthur Petrelli]] might be trying to stop that happening.<br />		{{plus}} [[Arthur Petrelli]] might be trying to stop that happening.<br />
	{{minus}} He tried to kill [[Angela]] and killed [[Maury]], both are in the group of twelve.<br />		{{minus}} He tried to kill [[Angela]] and killed Maury, both are in the group of twelve.<br />
	{{plus}} [[Adam Monroe]] and [[Sylar]] have both killed two of the group of twelve.<br />		{{plus}} [[Adam Monroe]] and [[Sylar]] have both killed two of the group of twelve.<br />
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imported>Altes: proven wrong

2009-10-07T08:55:02Z

proven wrong

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	{{minus}} If she had the ability to manipulate genetics, then why would they be manipulating a virus to eradicate abilities when they could just have her locate the source in a person's DNA and eradicate it herself?<br />		{{minus}} If she had the ability to manipulate genetics, then why would they be manipulating a virus to eradicate abilities when they could just have her locate the source in a person's DNA and eradicate it herself?<br />
	{{plus}} It may have helped develop [[Genetic modification formula\|the formula]].<br />		{{plus}} It may have helped develop [[Genetic modification formula\|the formula]].<br />
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	\| The [[:Image:Unnamed woman 2.jpg\|unnamed woman]]'s name is Suzanne Amman. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} In the image of the group of twelve the post-it appears to read "Suzanne Amman".<br />
	{{minus}} In Behind the Eclipse, it was asked whether her name was Susan Ammaw, and the writers corrected only that it was Amman.<br />
	{{plus}} Susan is often thought of as a nickname for Suzanne, so the writers might have not thought to correct it. Also, the name was baited to the writers instead of simply asking what the name of the person was in the photo.
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	\| There is a person missing from the picture, but involved in the founding of the Company--the photographer. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} Someone may be holding the camera, and would be present at an intimate occasion amongst the founders of the Company.<br />		\| There is a person missing from the picture, but involved in the founding of the Company--the photographer. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} Someone may be holding the camera, and would be present at an intimate occasion amongst the founders of the Company.<br />

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	{{minus}} The tsunami could have been stopped via a means other than weather control.<br />		{{minus}} The tsunami could have been stopped via a means other than weather control.<br />
	:{{plus}} Freezing would allow a tsunami to become a snowstorm, we have seen this power, and it isn't unlikely that one of the twelve also had this power.<br />		:{{plus}} Freezing would allow a tsunami to become a snowstorm, we have seen this power, and it isn't unlikely that one of the twelve also had this power.<br />
	:{{~~plus~~}}But weather control is the best explanation for the tsunami becoming a snowstorm.<br />		:{{minus}}But weather control is the best explanation for the tsunami becoming a snowstorm.<br />
	:{{minus}} Weather control implies that the tsunami could have been avoided altogether. The snowstorm implies that it was averted. Perhaps it took the abilities of several [[evolved humans]] to predict and neutralize the tsunami into a relatively harmless snowstorm.<br />		:{{minus}} Weather control implies that the tsunami could have been avoided altogether. The snowstorm implies that it was averted. Perhaps it took the abilities of several [[evolved humans]] to predict and neutralize the tsunami into a relatively harmless snowstorm.<br />
	{{minus}} Bob could have invented or embellished the story just to try and get on Nathan's and Matt's good side.<br />		{{minus}} Bob could have invented or embellished the story just to try and get on Nathan's and Matt's good side.<br />
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	{{minus}} If they were using Adam's blood, he would have been unable to kill any of them and Sylar would have been unable to kill Bob Bishop.<br />		{{minus}} If they were using Adam's blood, he would have been unable to kill any of them and Sylar would have been unable to kill Bob Bishop.<br />
	:{{plus}} There is no indication that injecting oneself with regenerative blood has permanent effects; Nathan, for instance, was shot down (albeit somehow later revived).<br />		:{{plus}} There is no indication that injecting oneself with regenerative blood has permanent effects; Nathan, for instance, was shot down (albeit somehow later revived).<br />
			::{{note}} Blood lasts in the body 12 weeks before being broken down by the liver, therefore that is the maximum amount of time a person that has been injected with a regeneraters blood would be able to regenerate for. This is why Nathan died when attacked by Sylar but why he didn't die when he was shot.<br />
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	\| The [[journal female 4\|journal female]] who was believed to have clairvoyance that gave a red hair sample was none other than [[Victoria Pratt]], the woman who "wanted to be left alone". However, her clairvoyance is so developed that she is basically omniscient, almost creating astral projection. \|\| None \|\| {{minus}} The journal female was of Russian/Polish decent. Victoria Pratt was clearly American.<br />		\| The [[journal female 4\|journal female]] who was believed to have clairvoyance that gave a red hair sample was none other than [[Victoria Pratt]], the woman who "wanted to be left alone". However, her clairvoyance is so developed that she is basically omniscient, almost creating astral projection. \|\| None \|\| {{minus}} The journal female was of Russian/Polish decent. Victoria Pratt was clearly American.<br />
	{{plus}} Victoria could be an American of Russian/Polish ancestry.<br />		{{plus}} Victoria could be an American of Russian/Polish ancestry.<br />
	{{minus}} If Victoria Pratt was clairvoyant she would have known Adam was coming and that Peter could also regenerate.<br />		{{minus}} If Victoria Pratt was clairvoyant she would have known Adam was coming and that Peter could also regenerate.<br />
	:{{~~plus~~}} Victoria knew that Peter was with Adam, even though Peter had not mentioned him. Clairvoyance would not allow her to know Peter could regenerate.<br />		:{{minus}} Victoria knew that Peter was with Adam, even though Peter had not mentioned him. Clairvoyance would not allow her to know Peter could regenerate.<br />
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	\| Not every member was an evolved human, but a few instead had other, more worldly attributes to contribute. \|\| None \|\|{{plus}} Kaito Nakamura is a powerful industrialist (important ally and you would want someone experienced in running a company) and Victoria Pratt is a biological engineer (an obvious asset). Both have yet to demonstrate an actual ability. Being dead probably poses a problem to any future demonstration, but Nakamura and Pratt were both attacked and killed without displaying any abnormal defense. Nakamura actually implied during Hiro's sword training that Hiro was the first evolved human in the family. Pratt had to resort to a shotgun for her defense.<br />		\| Not every member was an evolved human, but a few instead had other, more worldly attributes to contribute. \|\| None \|\|{{plus}} Kaito Nakamura is a powerful industrialist (important ally and you would want someone experienced in running a company) and Victoria Pratt is a biological engineer (an obvious asset). Both have yet to demonstrate an actual ability. Being dead probably poses a problem to any future demonstration, but Nakamura and Pratt were both attacked and killed without displaying any abnormal defense. Nakamura actually implied during Hiro's sword training that Hiro was the first evolved human in the family. Pratt had to resort to a shotgun for her defense.<br />

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	::{{note}} Weather control would create a snowstorm, but could not deal with the wave.<br />		::{{note}} Weather control would create a snowstorm, but could not deal with the wave.<br />
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	\| The [[group of twelve]] have been using [[Adam Monroe]]'s blood against his will, as a fountain of youth since 1977. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} They don't appear to have aged in 30 years.<br />		\| The [[group of twelve]] have been using [[Adam Monroe]]'s blood against his will, as a fountain of youth since 1977. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} They don't appear to have aged in 30 years.<br />
	:{{minus}} Yes, they do. The picture was obviously taken less than 30 years ago, based on the appearance of [[Kaito Nakamura]] and [[Victoria Pratt]] as seen 30 years ago in ''[[Episode:Truth and Consequences\|Truth and Consequences]]''.<br />		:{{minus}} Yes, they do. The picture was obviously taken less than 30 years ago, based on the appearance of [[Kaito Nakamura]] and [[Victoria Pratt]] as seen 30 years ago in ''[[Episode:Truth and Consequences\|Truth and Consequences]]''.<br />
	{{minus}} If the [[Group of Twelve]] had been using Adam Monroe's blood against his will, then [[Charles Deveaux]] would have recovered and would not have needed [[Peter Petrelli]] to be his hospice nurse.<br />		{{minus}} If the [[Group of Twelve]] had been using Adam Monroe's blood against his will, then [[Charles Deveaux]] would have recovered and would not have needed [[Peter Petrelli]] to be his hospice nurse.<br />
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	:{{plus}} There is no indication that injecting oneself with regenerative blood has permanent effects; Nathan, for instance, was shot down (albeit somehow later revived).<br />		:{{plus}} There is no indication that injecting oneself with regenerative blood has permanent effects; Nathan, for instance, was shot down (albeit somehow later revived).<br />
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	\| The [[journal female 4\|journal female]] who was believed to have clairvoyance that gave a red hair sample was none other than [[Victoria Pratt]], the woman who "wanted to be left alone". However, her clairvoyance is so developed that she is basically omniscient, almost creating astral projection. \|\| None. \|\| {{minus}} The journal female was of Russian/Polish decent. Victoria Pratt was clearly American.<br />		\| The [[journal female 4\|journal female]] who was believed to have clairvoyance that gave a red hair sample was none other than [[Victoria Pratt]], the woman who "wanted to be left alone". However, her clairvoyance is so developed that she is basically omniscient, almost creating astral projection. \|\| None \|\| {{minus}} The journal female was of Russian/Polish decent. Victoria Pratt was clearly American.<br />
	{{plus}} Victoria could be an American of Russian/Polish ancestry.<br />		{{plus}} Victoria could be an American of Russian/Polish ancestry.<br />
	{{minus}} If Victoria Pratt was clairvoyant she would have known Adam was coming and that Peter could also regenerate.<br />		{{minus}} If Victoria Pratt was clairvoyant she would have known Adam was coming and that Peter could also regenerate.<br />
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	\| Not every member was an evolved human, but a few instead had other, more worldly attributes to contribute. \|\| None. \|\|{{plus}} Kaito Nakamura is a powerful industrialist (important ally and you would want someone experienced in running a company) and Victoria Pratt is a biological engineer (an obvious asset). Both have yet to demonstrate an actual ability. Being dead probably poses a problem to any future demonstration, but Nakamura and Pratt were both attacked and killed without displaying any abnormal defense. Nakamura actually implied during Hiro's sword training that Hiro was the first evolved human in the family. Pratt had to resort to a shotgun for her defense.<br />		\| Not every member was an evolved human, but a few instead had other, more worldly attributes to contribute. \|\| None \|\|{{plus}} Kaito Nakamura is a powerful industrialist (important ally and you would want someone experienced in running a company) and Victoria Pratt is a biological engineer (an obvious asset). Both have yet to demonstrate an actual ability. Being dead probably poses a problem to any future demonstration, but Nakamura and Pratt were both attacked and killed without displaying any abnormal defense. Nakamura actually implied during Hiro's sword training that Hiro was the first evolved human in the family. Pratt had to resort to a shotgun for her defense.<br />
	{{minus}} The Kaito thing may have been a continuity error due to the fact that [[Ishi Nakamura]] is an evolved human. The Pratt thing may be due to Victoria having a passive power like precognition or something like that.<br />		{{minus}} The Kaito thing may have been a continuity error due to the fact that [[Ishi Nakamura]] is an evolved human. The Pratt thing may be due to Victoria having a passive power like precognition or something like that.<br />
	{{minus}} The creators hinted that all of them have powers. Kaito is hinted to have a power. Some may have passive powers.<br />		{{minus}} The creators hinted that all of them have powers. Kaito is hinted to have a power. Some may have passive powers.<br />
	{{minus}} [[Bob]] tells [[Mohinder]] that the company was founded by normal people with extraordinary powers. (''[[Four Months Later]]'')<br />		{{minus}} [[Bob]] tells [[Mohinder]] that the company was founded by normal people with extraordinary powers. (''[[Four Months Later]]'')<br />
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	\| [[The Company's founders]] all have [[powers]], although some of them may be passive. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} [[Angela Petrelli]], [[Arthur Petrelli]], [[Adam Monroe]], [[Daniel Linderman]], [[Maury Parkman]], [[Charles Deveaux]] and [[Robert Bishop]] all have displayed powers.<br />		\| [[The Company's founders]] all have [[powers]], although some of them may be passive. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} [[Angela Petrelli]], [[Arthur Petrelli]], [[Adam Monroe]], [[Daniel Linderman]], [[Maury Parkman]], [[Charles Deveaux]] and [[Robert Bishop]] all have displayed powers.<br />
	{{minus}} [[Kaito Nakamura]] and [[Victoria Pratt]] haven't displayed powers of any kind.<br />		{{minus}} [[Kaito Nakamura]] and [[Victoria Pratt]] haven't displayed powers of any kind.<br />
	:{{plus}} Kaito Nakamura is hinted at having powers. Kaito is a parent of another [[evolved human]].<br />		:{{plus}} Kaito Nakamura is hinted at having powers. Kaito is a parent of another [[evolved human]].<br />
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	{{plus}} Bob tells [[Mohinder]] that the company was founded by normal people with extraordinary powers. (''[[Four Months Later]]'')<br />		{{plus}} Bob tells [[Mohinder]] that the company was founded by normal people with extraordinary powers. (''[[Four Months Later]]'')<br />
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	\| There is a person missing from the picture, but involved in the founding of the Company--the photographer. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} Someone may be holding the camera, and would be present at an intimate occasion amongst the founders of the Company.<br />		\| There is a person missing from the picture, but involved in the founding of the Company--the photographer. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} Someone may be holding the camera, and would be present at an intimate occasion amongst the founders of the Company.<br />
	{{minus}} The photograph could have been taken using a time-delayed camera or via one of the founders in the photo using telekinesis.<br />		{{minus}} The photograph could have been taken using a time-delayed camera or via one of the founders in the photo using telekinesis.<br />
	{{minus}} Or, they might have just hired a photographer to take a picture of them as a corporate event. It's fairly common...		{{minus}} Or, they might have just hired a photographer to take a picture of them as a corporate event. It's fairly common...
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	\| [[Peter]], [[Nathan]], [[Mohinder]], [[Hiro]], [[Claire]], [[Elle]], [[Matt]], [[Tracy]] or [[Barbara]], [[Noah]], [[Sylar]] and [[Maya]] will become the new group of twelve, eventually and run the company together. \|\| None. \|\|{{plus}} Their relation to the [[The Company's founders\|original group]] may influence it.<br />		\| [[Peter]], [[Nathan]], [[Mohinder]], [[Hiro]], [[Claire]], [[Elle]], [[Matt]], [[Tracy]] or [[Barbara]], [[Noah]], [[Sylar]] and [[Maya]] will become the new group of twelve, eventually and run the company together. \|\| None \|\|{{plus}} Their relation to the [[The Company's founders\|original group]] may influence it.<br />
	{{minus}} Elle is dead.<br />		{{minus}} Elle is dead.<br />
	{{minus}} Maya currently has no wish to be connected with Mohinder, due to his animalistic behavior after he injected himself with an uncatalyzed formula.<br />		{{minus}} Maya currently has no wish to be connected with Mohinder, due to his animalistic behavior after he injected himself with an uncatalyzed formula.<br />
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	{{minus}} The Company has already been "brought back", it's now part of the US government.<br />		{{minus}} The Company has already been "brought back", it's now part of the US government.<br />
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	\| Lots of different people are trying to eliminate the group of twelve so they could become part of a new group of twelve. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} [[Linderman]], [[Maury Parkman]], [[Victoria Pratt]], [[Bob Bishop]] and [[Kaito Nakamura]] were all murdered on purpose.<br />		\| Lots of different people are trying to eliminate the group of twelve so they could become part of a new group of twelve. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} [[Linderman]], [[Maury Parkman]], [[Victoria Pratt]], [[Bob Bishop]] and [[Kaito Nakamura]] were all murdered on purpose.<br />
	{{plus}} [[Arthur Petrelli]] might be trying to stop that happening.<br />		{{plus}} [[Arthur Petrelli]] might be trying to stop that happening.<br />
	{{minus}} He tried to kill [[Angela]] and killed Maury, both are in the group of twelve.<br />		{{minus}} He tried to kill [[Angela]] and killed Maury, both are in the group of twelve.<br />
	{{plus}} [[Adam Monroe]] and [[Sylar]] have both killed two of the group of twelve.<br />		{{plus}} [[Adam Monroe]] and [[Sylar]] have both killed two of the group of twelve.<br />
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	\| The "One of Us, One of Them" term is taken from the group of twelve. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} Five have been shown to have abilities, while seven have not.<br />		\| The "One of Us, One of Them" term is taken from the group of twelve. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} Five have been shown to have abilities, while seven have not.<br />
	:{{minus}} It has been heavily implied that all of them had abilities.<br />		:{{minus}} It has been heavily implied that all of them had abilities.<br />
	::{{note}} [[Arthur]], [[Angela]], [[Bob]], [[Linderman]], [[Charles Deveaux]] and [[Maury Parkman]] displayed powers, [[Harry Fletcher]] and [[Paula Gramble]] are on [[Chandra's list]], and [[Kaito]] was confirmed to have an ability by BTE, so there were at least nine evolved humans among the founders.<br />		::{{note}} [[Arthur]], [[Angela]], [[Bob]], [[Linderman]], [[Charles Deveaux]] and [[Maury Parkman]] displayed powers, [[Harry Fletcher]] and [[Paula Gramble]] are on [[Chandra's list]], and [[Kaito]] was confirmed to have an ability by BTE, so there were at least nine evolved humans among the founders.<br />
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	::{{note}} Kaito was confirmed by BTE to have an ability, it just was never revealed.<br />		::{{note}} Kaito was confirmed by BTE to have an ability, it just was never revealed.<br />
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	\| There are thirteen founders, the thirteenth being [[Adam Monroe]]. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} He was said to have brought all the other founders together.<br />		\| There are thirteen founders, the thirteenth being [[Adam Monroe]]. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} He was said to have brought all the other founders together.<br />
	:{{minus}} That doesn't necessarily mean that he's a founder himself. He could be a benefactor.<br />		:{{minus}} That doesn't necessarily mean that he's a founder himself. He could be a benefactor.<br />
	{{minus}} He doesn't appear in the group photo.<br />		{{minus}} He doesn't appear in the group photo.<br />