Theory:The President - Revision history

imported>PJDEP at 04:51, 1 March 2010

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	{{plus}} Obama may be using his controversial spending plans to distract the public.<br />		{{plus}} Obama may be using his controversial spending plans to distract the public.<br />
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	\| The President is an evolved human. \|\| None. \|\| {{minus}} This would make for a tired, cliched, and somewhat predictable plot twist.<br />		\| The President is an evolved human. \|\| None \|\| {{minus}} This would make for a tired, cliched, and somewhat predictable plot twist.<br />
	{{plus}} It's illogical to think in a world of empowered humans, that some would not at least attempt to use their special abilities to achieve positions of political influence. It is perhaps more plausible the president is a puppet for one or more empowered humans that are even more powerful and secretive than The Company or Pinehearst, had been.<br />		{{plus}} It's illogical to think in a world of empowered humans, that some would not at least attempt to use their special abilities to achieve positions of political influence. It is perhaps more plausible the president is a puppet for one or more empowered humans that are even more powerful and secretive than The Company or Pinehearst, had been.<br />
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	\| The President will start a genocide against evolved humans. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} It happened in a [[explosion future\|possible future]].<br />		\| The President will start a genocide against evolved humans. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} It happened in a [[explosion future\|possible future]].<br />
	{{minus}} It didn't happen in [[exposed future\|another possible future]].<br />		{{minus}} It didn't happen in [[exposed future\|another possible future]].<br />
	:{{plus}} Nathan rather than Sylar was President in that future. Sylar has now taken Nathan's place again.<br />		:{{plus}} Nathan rather than Sylar was President in that future. Sylar has now taken Nathan's place again.<br />
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	\| The President is one of the four villains in Usutu's painting. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} He bears a similarity to the man in the bottom left corner.<br />		\| The President is one of the four villains in Usutu's painting. \|\| None \|\| {{plus}} He bears a similarity to the man in the bottom left corner.<br />
	:{{minus}} That man is clearly Knox. See the picture [http://heroeswiki.com/Image:Four_villains.jpg here]<br />		:{{minus}} That man is clearly Knox. See the picture [http://heroeswiki.com/Image:Four_villains.jpg here]<br />
	::{{plus}} Knox is dead; he cannot appear in any future storylines, except for flashbacks.<br />		::{{plus}} Knox is dead; he cannot appear in any future storylines, except for flashbacks.<br />

imported>Altes at 17:50, 17 November 2009

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	::{{minus}} The timeline is explicit in this instance. April 2007.<br />		::{{minus}} The timeline is explicit in this instance. April 2007.<br />
	::{{minus}} The episode aired while George W. Bush was still the real U.S. President.<br />		::{{minus}} The episode aired while George W. Bush was still the real U.S. President.<br />
	{{minus}} Aside from skin color, the President shares very few facial similarities with Obama.<Br />		{{minus}} Aside from skin color, the President shares very few facial similarities with Obama.<br />
	{{minus}} It seems more likely that the President was intended to be a nod to Barack Obama, but not actually be him.<br />		{{minus}} It seems more likely that the President was intended to be a nod to Barack Obama, but not actually be him.<br />
	{{minus}} His first appearance was filmed before the election, thus there was no way of knowing that he would be the President.<br />		{{minus}} His first appearance was filmed before the election, thus there was no way of knowing that he would be the President.<br />
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	\| The President is an evolved human. \|\| None. \|\| {{minus}} This would make for a tired, cliched, and somewhat predictable plot twist.<br />		\| The President is an evolved human. \|\| None. \|\| {{minus}} This would make for a tired, cliched, and somewhat predictable plot twist.<br />
	{{plus}} It's illogical to think in a world of empowered humans, that some would not at least attempt to use their special abilities to achieve positions of political influence. It is perhaps more plausible the president is a puppet for one or more empowered humans that are even more powerful and secretive than The Company or Pinehearst, had been.br />		{{plus}} It's illogical to think in a world of empowered humans, that some would not at least attempt to use their special abilities to achieve positions of political influence. It is perhaps more plausible the president is a puppet for one or more empowered humans that are even more powerful and secretive than The Company or Pinehearst, had been.<br />
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	\| The President will start a genocide against evolved humans. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} It happened in a [[explosion future\|possible future]].<br />		\| The President will start a genocide against evolved humans. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} It happened in a [[explosion future\|possible future]].<br />
	{{minus}} It didn't happen in [[exposed future\|another possible future]].<br />		{{minus}} It didn't happen in [[exposed future\|another possible future]].<br />
	:{{plus}} Nathan rather than Sylar was President in that future. Sylar has now taken Nathan's place again.<br /		:{{plus}} Nathan rather than Sylar was President in that future. Sylar has now taken Nathan's place again.<br />
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	\| The President is one of the four villains in Usutu's painting. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} He bears a similarity to the man in the bottom left corner.<br />		\| The President is one of the four villains in Usutu's painting. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} He bears a similarity to the man in the bottom left corner.<br />

imported>Intuitive Empath at 23:46, 19 July 2009

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	{{minus}} The President was not involved with Pinehearst.<br />		{{minus}} The President was not involved with Pinehearst.<br />
	:{{minus}} The President got involved after Pinehearst was taken down.<br />		:{{minus}} The President got involved after Pinehearst was taken down.<br />
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imported>Josh: Cleaning up arguments. Nathan told the President about abilities off-screen. Flint was alive when the President started the hunting.

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Cleaning up arguments. Nathan told the President about abilities off-screen. Flint was alive when the President started the hunting.

imported>Altes at 17:29, 17 July 2009

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	:::{{minus}} The painting was shown several episodes before Knox died and the President entered the story.<br />		:::{{minus}} The painting was shown several episodes before Knox died and the President entered the story.<br />
	:::{{minus}} [[Arthur Petrelli]] is dead, yet he also seems to appear in the painting.<br />		:::{{minus}} [[Arthur Petrelli]] is dead, yet he also seems to appear in the painting.<br />
			::::{{minus}} Flint is dead too.<br />
	{{minus}} The President may have nothing to do with the painting; they belong to different story arcs.<br />		{{minus}} The President may have nothing to do with the painting; they belong to different story arcs.<br />
	{{minus}} Knox, Flint, Arthur, and Sylar were meant to be the four villains that Hiro sees in his [[spirit walk]] after seeing the painting, although Knox's story was cut from the show.<br />		{{minus}} Knox, Flint, Arthur, and Sylar were meant to be the four villains that Hiro sees in his [[spirit walk]] after seeing the painting, although Knox's story was cut from the show.<br />
	{{minus}} The President was not involved with Pinehearst.<br />		{{minus}} The President was not involved with Pinehearst.<br />
			:{{minus}} The President got involved after Pinehearst was taken down.<br />
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imported>Intuitive Empath at 16:46, 17 April 2009

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	:{{minus}} He may just be aware, in his high-clearance position, of things the modern public is not aware of.<br />		:{{minus}} He may just be aware, in his high-clearance position, of things the modern public is not aware of.<br />
	:{{minus}} He may be aware of the [[Lonestar File]].<br />		:{{minus}} He may be aware of the [[Lonestar File]].<br />
	:{{minus}} He may be aware of what happened at [[Coyote Sands]]		:{{minus}} He may be aware of what happened at [[Coyote Sands]].<br />
	{{minus}} This would make for a tired, cliched, and somewhat predictable plot twist.<br />		{{minus}} This would make for a tired, cliched, and somewhat predictable plot twist.<br />
	{{plus}} It's illogical to think in a world of empowered humans, that some would not at least attempt to use their special abilities to achieve positions of political influence. It is perhaps more plausible the president is a puppet for one or more empowered humans that are even more powerful and secretive than The Company or Pinehearst, had been.br />		{{plus}} It's illogical to think in a world of empowered humans, that some would not at least attempt to use their special abilities to achieve positions of political influence. It is perhaps more plausible the president is a puppet for one or more empowered humans that are even more powerful and secretive than The Company or Pinehearst, had been.br />

imported>Criminally Vulgar at 04:11, 17 April 2009

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	:{{minus}} He may just be aware, in his high-clearance position, of things the modern public is not aware of.<br />		:{{minus}} He may just be aware, in his high-clearance position, of things the modern public is not aware of.<br />
	:{{minus}} He may be aware of the [[Lonestar File]].<br />		:{{minus}} He may be aware of the [[Lonestar File]].<br />
			:{{minus}} He may be aware of what happened at [[Coyote Sands]]
	{{minus}} This would make for a tired, cliched, and somewhat predictable plot twist.<br />		{{minus}} This would make for a tired, cliched, and somewhat predictable plot twist.<br />
	{{plus}} It's illogical to think in a world of empowered humans, that some would not at least attempt to use their special abilities to achieve positions of political influence. It is perhaps more plausible the president is a puppet for one or more empowered humans that are even more powerful and secretive than The Company or Pinehearst, had been.br />		{{plus}} It's illogical to think in a world of empowered humans, that some would not at least attempt to use their special abilities to achieve positions of political influence. It is perhaps more plausible the president is a puppet for one or more empowered humans that are even more powerful and secretive than The Company or Pinehearst, had been.br />

imported>Saichu at 04:40, 3 March 2009

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	::{{minus}} Again, if people with the same accent were related there would be alot more relatives in the world.<br />		::{{minus}} Again, if people with the same accent were related there would be alot more relatives in the world.<br />
	:::{{plus}} Two black presidents with the same accent seems like too much of a coincidence.<br />		:::{{plus}} Two black presidents with the same accent seems like too much of a coincidence.<br />
			{{plus}} Obama may be using his controversial spending plans to distract the public.<br />
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	\| The President is an evolved human. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} He is not noticeably surprised by Nathan's revelations.<br />		\| The President is an evolved human. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} He is not noticeably surprised by Nathan's revelations.<br />

imported>Intuitive Empath: when are people going to learn to spell Pinehearst?

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when are people going to learn to spell Pinehearst?

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	:{{minus}} He may be aware of the [[Lonestar File]].<br />		:{{minus}} He may be aware of the [[Lonestar File]].<br />
	{{minus}} This would make for a tired, cliched, and somewhat predictable plot twist.<br />		{{minus}} This would make for a tired, cliched, and somewhat predictable plot twist.<br />
	{{plus}} It's illogical to think in a world of empowered humans, that some would not at least attempt to use their special abilities to achieve positions of political influence. It is perhaps more plausible the president is a puppet for one or more empowered humans that are even more powerful and secretive than The Company or ~~Pinehurst, aka The Twelve~~, had been.		{{plus}} It's illogical to think in a world of empowered humans, that some would not at least attempt to use their special abilities to achieve positions of political influence. It is perhaps more plausible the president is a puppet for one or more empowered humans that are even more powerful and secretive than The Company or Pinehearst, had been.br />
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	\| The President will start a genocide against evolved humans. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} It happened in a [[explosion future\|possible future]].<br />		\| The President will start a genocide against evolved humans. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} It happened in a [[explosion future\|possible future]].<br />

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	:{{plus}} The timeline is purposefully made unclear, and it could be a vague "present" era.<br />		:{{plus}} The timeline is purposefully made unclear, and it could be a vague "present" era.<br />
	::{{minus}} The timeline is explicit in this instance. April 2007.<br />		::{{minus}} The timeline is explicit in this instance. April 2007.<br />
	::{{minus}} The episode aired while George W. Bush is still the real U.S. President.<br />		::{{minus}} The episode aired while George W. Bush was still the real U.S. President.<br />
	{{minus}} Aside from skin color, the President shares very few facial similarities with Obama.<Br />		{{minus}} Aside from skin color, the President shares very few facial similarities with Obama.<Br />
	{{minus}} It seems more likely that the President was intended to be a nod to Barack Obama, but not actually be him.<br />		{{minus}} It seems more likely that the President was intended to be a nod to Barack Obama, but not actually be him.<br />
	{{minus}} ~~I believe his~~ first appearance was filmed before the election, thus there was no way of knowing that he would be the ~~president~~.<br />		{{minus}} His first appearance was filmed before the election, thus there was no way of knowing that he would be the President.<br />
	:{{plus}} They could have filmed two versions, one with a white and one with a black president.<br />		:{{plus}} They could have filmed two versions, one with a white and one with a black president.<br />
	::{{minus}} [[Greg Beeman]] states in his blog that Tim Kring really wanted to cast an African-American in the role, which implies that this version with [[Michael Dorn]] was the only one that was ever filmed.<br />		::{{minus}} [[Greg Beeman]] states in his blog that Tim Kring really wanted to cast an African-American in the role, which implies that this version with [[Michael Dorn]] was the only one that was ever filmed.<br />
	{{plus}} The President spoke with a similar accent to Barack Obama.<br />		{{plus}} The President spoke with a similar accent to Barack Obama.<br />
	::{{minus}} Again, if people with the same accent were related there would be alot more relatives in the world.<br />
	:::{{plus}} Two black presidents with the same accent seems like too much of a coincidence.<br />
	{{plus}} Obama may be using his controversial spending plans to distract the public.<br />		{{plus}} Obama may be using his controversial spending plans to distract the public.<br />
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	\| The President is an evolved human. \|\| None. \|\| {{~~plus~~}} He is ~~not~~ ~~noticeably~~ ~~surprised~~ by ~~Nathan's~~ ~~revelations~~.<br />		\| The President is an evolved human. \|\| None. \|\| {{minus}} This would make for a tired, cliched, and somewhat predictable plot twist.<br />
	:{{minus}} He may just be aware, in his high-clearance position, of things the modern public is not aware of.<br />
	:{{minus}} He may be aware of the [[Lonestar File]].<br />
	:{{minus}} He may be aware of what happened at [[Coyote Sands]].<br />
	{{minus}} This would make for a tired, cliched, and somewhat predictable plot twist.<br />
	{{plus}} It's illogical to think in a world of empowered humans, that some would not at least attempt to use their special abilities to achieve positions of political influence. It is perhaps more plausible the president is a puppet for one or more empowered humans that are even more powerful and secretive than The Company or Pinehearst, had been.br />		{{plus}} It's illogical to think in a world of empowered humans, that some would not at least attempt to use their special abilities to achieve positions of political influence. It is perhaps more plausible the president is a puppet for one or more empowered humans that are even more powerful and secretive than The Company or Pinehearst, had been.br />
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	\| The President will start a genocide against evolved humans. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} It happened in a [[explosion future\|possible future]].<br />		\| The President will start a genocide against evolved humans. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} It happened in a [[explosion future\|possible future]].<br />
	{{minus}} It didn't happen in [[exposed future\|another possible future]].<br />		{{minus}} It didn't happen in [[exposed future\|another possible future]].<br />
			:{{plus}} Nathan rather than Sylar was President in that future. Sylar has now taken Nathan's place again.<br /
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	\| The President is one of the four villains in Usutu's painting. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} He bears a similarity to the man in the bottom left corner.<br />		\| The President is one of the four villains in Usutu's painting. \|\| None. \|\| {{plus}} He bears a similarity to the man in the bottom left corner.<br />
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	:::{{minus}} The painting was shown several episodes before Knox died and the President entered the story.<br />		:::{{minus}} The painting was shown several episodes before Knox died and the President entered the story.<br />
	:::{{minus}} [[Arthur Petrelli]] is dead, yet he also seems to appear in the painting.<br />		:::{{minus}} [[Arthur Petrelli]] is dead, yet he also seems to appear in the painting.<br />
	::::{{minus}} Flint is dead too.<br />
	{{minus}} The President may have nothing to do with the painting; they belong to different story arcs.<br />		{{minus}} The President may have nothing to do with the painting; they belong to different story arcs.<br />
	{{minus}} Knox, Flint, Arthur, and Sylar were meant to be the four villains that Hiro sees in his [[spirit walk]] after seeing the painting, although Knox's story was cut from the show.<br />		{{minus}} Knox, Flint, Arthur, and Sylar were meant to be the four villains that Hiro sees in his [[spirit walk]] after seeing the painting, although Knox's story was cut from the show.<br />